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Negative Hastar Hali Form
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10.       bod
5999 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 05:57 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

maybe:
Bunlar acı çeken hayvanlar

acı çeken kalbim... or incinen kalbim<<-- still hurting
or
incinmiş kalbim<-- the pain has gone but the efects are still in my heart

can i explain?



I am really struggling to understand

What is çeken here???
Does it come from çekmek and, if so, what is the -en suffix here??? Is it the present participle suffix?

11.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 07:37 pm

"acı çekmek": "suffer"

like:

gitmek; giden çocuk: the child who is going/who goes/who went

kaçmak: escape: kaçan araba: the car which is escaping/which escapes/which escaped

uçmak: fly: uçan halı: flying carpet

12.       bod
5999 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 07:50 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

"acı çekmek": "suffer"



Thanks - I wasn't reading the dictionary properly

I've not really got to grips with these verbs formed out of more than one word

13.       bod
5999 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 07:54 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

canını sıkma



Don't annoy the murderer

14.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 07:59 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting caliptrix:

canını sıkma



Don't annoy the murderer



murderer? loool

it is :canını<<< can is self/ego/soul
not: canini<<< "cani" is murderer/killer

canı sıkılmak: get bored...
canını sıkma: dont worry/dont get bored

15.       Netzen
408 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:06 pm

Could you please tell me how to translate this in Turkish?

NO PETS ALLOWED!

Teşekkürler ederim!

16.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:21 pm

Quoting Netzen:

Could you please tell me how to translate this in Turkish?

NO PETS ALLOWED!

Teşekkürler ederim!



evcil hayvan giremez

17.       deli
5904 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:21 pm

Quoting Netzen:

Could you please tell me how to translate this in Turkish?

NO PETS ALLOWED!

Teşekkürler ederim!

ev hayvanilar yasak or yasak ev hayvanilar?

18.       deli
5904 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:22 pm

opps :-S

19.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:28 pm

Quoting deli:

Quoting Netzen:

Could you please tell me how to translate this in Turkish?

NO PETS ALLOWED!

Teşekkürler ederim!

ev hayvanilar yasak or yasak ev hayvanilar?


yes, maybe "ev hayvanı yasaktır" is better... thanks deli!

20.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 May 2006 Sun 08:56 pm

Hi bod,
1. It's not hastar but mastar hali.
2. To make a noun sentence negative we use "değil" (isn't). To make a verb sentence negative we use the negative suffix -me, -ma.
A noun sentence is a sentence that hasn't a conjugated verb but has a noun or adjective. Example:
İstanbul çok güzel. > Noun sentence because of 'güzel'.
Ankara pek güzel değil. > Noun sentence because of 'güzel'.
Ali okula gitti. > verb sentence because of gitmek.
Ali okula gitmedi. > verb sentence because of gitmek.

3. Mastal hali is the infinitive but 'gitme', 'incitme', 'okuma', 'yazma', etc. are negative imperatives. Smillarly 'git', 'incit', 'oku', 'yaz', etc. are affirmative imperatives. They are not infinitives.

The infinitives are 'gitmek' (to go) , 'incitmek' (to hurt), 'okumak' (to read) , 'yazmak' (to write), etc. and the negative imperatives are 'gitmemek' (not to go) , 'incitmemek' (not to hurt), 'okumamak' (not to read) , 'yazmamak' (not to write), etc.

Here are some sentences with negative imperatives:

Hayvanları incitmemek önemli.
Kitap okumamak çok büyük bir eksiklik.
Gitmemek ayıp olur.
Önemsiz sorulara kısa cevaplar vermek ve uzun uzun yazmamak gerekir.

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