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imdat...!!!!!!
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:12 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:18 am |
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herkese
not herkeze!...
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:21 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:32 am |
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Quoting carol.trky: herkeze slm, I need help with this.. I hope someone can help me...
about Personal Past Tense Suffixes...
Normal Forms
-dim/-dım/-dum/-düm or (After Vowels) -ydim .etc.. - I was
-din . etc.. or -ydin - you were
-di. etc.. or -ydi - he/she/it was
-dik. etc.. or -ydik - we were
-diniz. etc.. or -ydiniz - you were
-diler. etc.. or -ydiler - they were
and then
Consonant Mutation
-tim. etc.. - I was
-tin - you were
-ti - he/she/it was
-tik - we were
-tiniz - you were
-tiler - they were
then it will be like -ytim, -ytum??? and like that???
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i think you looked here:
www.turkishclass.com/grammar_regularPastTense.htm ?
-ydım.. is just for after nouns:
iyiydim
but it is iyi olmak:to be good.
not just a verb... like gitmek:to go
gittim: i went
kaldım: i stayed
uyudum:i slept
but: şıradışı olmak:to be extraordinary
o sıradışıydı.... he was extraordinary...
so here is to be verb+ noun.
and always -ydın... not -ytın.
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:37 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:43 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:48 am |
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Quote:
evet, orumcek var, hahaha |
by the way, look at this:
o bir örümcekti. it was a spider.
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:51 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:56 am |
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then, he was a spider... o bir örümcekti...
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:04 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:09 am |
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Quoting carol.trky: thanks YaaaaSHinnnn I will succeed in turkish because of u  |
and i will change my name because of you...
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:13 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:15 am |
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burdaydık or buradaydık...
buradaydınız
buradaydılar
ben buradaydım
sen buradaydın
o buradaydı
peki şimdi nerdesin? and now, where are you?
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:19 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:57 am |
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Quoting caliptrix:
-ydım.. is just for after nouns:
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 i never knew that! i always wondered why the -y- was sometimes there and sometimes not 
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18 May 2006 Thu 06:53 am |
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Quoting oceanmavi: Quoting caliptrix:
-ydım.. is just for after nouns:
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i never knew that! i always wondered why the -y- was sometimes there and sometimes not |
i mean just with "to be" plus "noun", and the last letter is a vowel: a,e,ı,i,o,ö,u,ü
bela: o tam bir bela + idi = belaydı
hamile: o zamanlar Ahmet'e hamile idi =hamileydi
yankı: duyduğumuz sadece bir yankı idi = yankıydı
keçi: çiftliğimizde gördüğümüz keçi idi=keçiydi
şato: yol üstündeki şato idi=şatoydu
and goes...
you can see something like in old turkish songs and also that named türkü's, let's have a look to my türkü lyric:
vaktıyla bir yâr sevdim
saçları sarı idi
in fact, last words refers to: "sarıydı": was yellow
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18 May 2006 Thu 07:15 pm |
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So with consonants?
It was a horse: O bir at idi?
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18 May 2006 Thu 07:26 pm |
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Quoting lacivert: So with consonants?
It was a horse: O bir at idi? |
Could it be o bir attı?
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18 May 2006 Thu 08:31 pm |
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It's easy.
past tense suffixes are as follows:
-dı
-di
-du
-dü
-tı
-ti
-tu
-tü
1. After a vowel always use the "-d" version.
2. After an unvoiced consonant use the "-d" version.
3. Only after a voiced consonant use the "-t" version.
Voiced consonants are : p,ç,t,k,h,s,ş,f (hint "Fıstıkçı Şahap")
Ok, let's summarize 1,2 and 3:
If the last letter before the past tense suffix is "abcdegğıijlmnoöruüvyz" use "-d" version and if it is "pçtkhsşf" use "-t" version.
Remember it is only the last letter that counts for consonant harmony.
gitmek : to go
"git + ti + m" : I went
"git + me + di + m" : I didn't go
On affirmative last letter was voiced consonant, on negative last lette changed.
Now you know when to use t or d versions. But there are four of each. Which one do we use, say for d version?
-dı -di -du -dü
This time after consonant harmony it is "vowel harmony" that takes the stage.
In general :
a is followed by a or ı
e is followed by e or i
ı is followed by a or ı
i is followed by e or i
o is followed by a or u
ö is followed by e or ü
u is followed by a or u
ü is followed by e or ü
If we apply these to past tense:
if the last vowel is a use -dı
if the last vowel is ı use -dı
if the last vowel is e use -di
if the last vowel is i use -di
if the last vowel is o use -du
if the last vowel is u use -du
if the last vowel is ö use -dü
if the last vowel is ü use -dü
Example:
"gitmek"
verb stem is "git"
now you check two things:
1. is the last letter a voiced consonant?
2. what is the last vowel?
Yes, the last letter a voiced consonant and therefore I should use the t version.
The last vowel i and I should use "ti"
So we get "gitti".
example:
okumak > oku
1. is the last letter a voiced consonant? no
2. what is the last vowel? u
>>okudu
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18 May 2006 Thu 08:37 pm |
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Notice that the same vowel and consonant harmony rules above apply to nouns and adjectives in past tense as well. Yes we use past tense suffixes with nouns and adjectives too.
In Turkish we don't have the "to be" (am, is, are, was, were, has been, had been).
So we say:
Hava güzel. > The weather is nice.
Hava güzeldi. > The weather was nice.
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18 May 2006 Thu 11:29 pm |
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Very nice explanations. even i am impressed...
Thank you very much.
sağolasın
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thank u so much YaaaaaSHinnnn 