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10.       cedars
235 posts
 06 Sep 2010 Mon 07:45 pm

 

Quoting oddchild

Hi again all,

 

is it possible to get an online pdf of the Turkish Bible in Arabic script as it would have existed prior to Ataturk?

 

marhaba

"a translation of the Bible was made by someone called İsmail Ferruh in 19th century which meets the last period of Ottoman. This translation exists in Bâyezîd State Library in Istanbul (the Bâyezîd collection no. 51) and includes only the translation of the Four Gospels."

The below document lists all existing translations of the bible during ottoman period

 

NEW TESTAMENT TRANSLATIONS on the OTTOMAN PERIOD (XIII-XIX CENTURY)
http://www.sant.ox.ac.uk/ext/melcomintl/melcom/MI10-Cordoba/SadikYazar.ppt

 

 



Edited (9/6/2010) by cedars

11.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 Sep 2010 Mon 11:46 pm

 

Quoting oddchild

Hi again all,

 

is it possible to get an online pdf of the Turkish Bible in Arabic script as it would have existed prior to Ataturk?

 

I have no idea if a Turkish Bible in Arabic script exists. I do know however, something

else.

 

The rumor is the last copy of a different version of the New Testament (by Barabbas), somewhat different from those of Mathew, Mark or Luke is still in existence, under protection in Turkia.

 

Other copies of this version are said to have been destroyed by the Catholic Church, because it does not match with what Catholics like to preach.

 

I would like to get my hands on that version.  {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 



Edited (9/7/2010) by AlphaF

12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 Sep 2010 Mon 11:46 pm

 

Quoting oddc

 

 

 

 

 



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13.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 Sep 2010 Tue 12:23 am

 

Quoting oddchild

From what I understand it used to exist in Arabic letters before the reforms went into place.

 

I have been teaching a group of Turkmen how to read Arabic (in Lebanon) and thought that having some pre latin script texts might be handy for them as well. In the future it would be good to teach them Turkish letters, but I do not want to overwhelm them (children).

 

 

Johnny

 

Why are you teaching Turkmen childeren how to read Arabic, out of a Bible?

Are they Christians?

14.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Sep 2010 Thu 11:51 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Why are you teaching Turkmen childeren how to read Arabic, out of a Bible?

Are they Christians?

 

What an horrific thought Alpha!  Turkish children must only learn what Turks WANT them to learn (is that right?).  Reading about other religions MUST BE BANNED! 

 

15.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:28 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

What an horrific thought Alpha!  Turkish children must only learn what Turks WANT them to learn (is that right?).  Reading about other religions MUST BE BANNED! 

 

Of course, otherwise we shall bring out the New Testament by Barabbas.

If you have to read religious books of other religions, you might as well read something real !

 

16.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 11:07 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Of course, otherwise we shall bring out the New Testament by Barabbas.

If you have to read religious books of other religions, you might as well read something real !

 

 

 I disagree.  It is very important to learn about ALL religions.  Attitudes like yours just increase intolerance and ignorance.  

I think you confuse "real" with "true".  Such religious texts are very real to people, the books themselves are real.... the fact that I do not believe any of them to be "true" is quite another matter!

17.       mltm
3690 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 04:57 pm

I think it exists. It should as not all the muslims in ottoman period could read and understand arabic language.

 

I think the book on this link is in Ottoman turkish and in arabic scripts. I looked in the content of the book and it is with arabic letters.

http://www.arapcadagitim.com/product_info.php?products_id=1654&osCsid=cf2a2834a6d0a942511e92058dc82ef0

 

But just to say my opinion, you can find other books other than the holy book written with ottoman turkish easier to study for children like this one, it´s for children

http://www.arapcadagitim.com/product_info.php?products_id=1684&osCsid=cf2a2834a6d0a942511e92058dc82ef092058dc82ef0



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18.       cedars
235 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 06:46 pm

 

 

But just to say my opinion, you can find other books other than the holy book written with ottoman turkish easier to study for children like this one, it´s for children

 

I have to agree with you on this one mltm, it is much easier to start with children´s books rather than ones of religion ,,, any religion.

However, since Turkmen in Lebanon live mostly in Akkar, a region in the north where its inhabitants are greek orthodox, maronites and sunni muslims, I guess the choice of our friend johnny on the bible was either to help kids better understand their neighbours (given that in lebanon people are identified based on their religious confession ! )
or may be he is teaching at a missionary school which is most lickely the case, since the state disregards minorities and rural areas.

The turkmen in lebanon (~3,000 residents ) were unnoticed by the lebanese governement for decades, until recently when Ankara started supporting them by opening health centers, schools, building infrastructure, etc etc

please johnny correct me if I am wrong.



Edited (9/10/2010) by cedars [typo]

19.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 07:20 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I disagree.  It is very important to learn about ALL religions.  Attitudes like yours just increase intolerance and ignorance.  

I think you confuse "real" with "true".  Such religious texts are very real to people, the books themselves are real.... the fact that I do not believe any of them to be "true" is quite another matter!

Barabbas was very real too; so was his version of the bible....Guess why his work did not receive any tolerance?

 

Some possibilities to chose from. What do you think?

1. the font in his book is too small to read

2. his version of the holy book is too big to fit in any decent library.

3. his version includes references to a prophet to come after Jesus; even names the expected prophet.



Edited (9/10/2010) by AlphaF

20.       cedars
235 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 07:36 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Barabbas was very real too; so was his version of the bible....

 

 
Barabbas,  was the robber whereas Barnabas was the apostle.
They are two different persons.
The bible  you are talking about is the Gospel of Barnabas.

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