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1.       Lilyana
114 posts
 13 Mar 2011 Sun 11:03 pm

Can someone explain what is Tezlik Fiili, what does it meen:

Gidiveriyorum

Gidiverdim

Gidivereceğim

Gidiveririm

Gidiversem

Gidivermeliyim

 

What is olumsuz of these verbs:

döküverdim

atıvereceksin

postalayıversin

taşıyıvermişler

bağırıverin

 

How do you translate tezlik fiili in these senteces:

1.Şu televizyonu tamir ediver.

Bu akşam bize geliver.

Şu şarkıyı söyleyiver.

2. Dün aldığı kitabı bir gecede okuyuverdi.

Araba, yolda duruverdi.

Kardeşim yatınca hemen uyuyuverir.

3.Onun problemini yarın çözüvereceğim.

Gitmişken arkadaşlarımı da görüvereceksin.

Kavşaktan sola dönüvereceksin.

4.Çocuk hemen anlayıverdi.

Şu kitabı bir günde okuyuverdim.

Babandan biraz para isteyiver.

5.Araba, birdenbire yoldan çıkıverdı.

Evi beş dakikada temizleyiverdi.

Bütün eşyaları kolayca taşıyıverdık.

6. Şunu aşağı götürüver.

Pazardan bir kilo muz alıver.

Şu raporları yazıverin.

7.Yarın büroya geliver misin?

Alışırmalarımı çözüverir misin?

Bana bir kart alıverir misiniz?

8.Canın istemiyorsa yapmayıver.

Bu habere üzülecekse söylemeyiverirsin.

Bir saat daha uyumayıver.

9.O kadar istedik yapıvermedi.

Her zaman kapıyı açardı; bugün açıvermedi.

O kadar ısrar ettim; ama yine de söyleyivermedim.

 

Thank you

2.       Henry
2604 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 04:39 am

Here are some notes from this site explaining Tezlik fiili

BİRLEŞİK FİİLLER (Compound verbs)

1 Yeterlilik fiili (A verb of ability)

a+bil(mek), e+bil(mek) =can  (This is used for possibilities too.)

If the last vowel of a verb is a back vowel (a,ı,o,u) it must be abil(mek)

If the last vowel of a verb is a front vowel (e,i,ö,ü ) it must be ebil(mek)

I can run = koşabilirim (ability)
I can come = gelebilirim (possibility)

Yardım edebilir misiniz? Can you help me?
Bu ödevi kendi başıma yapabilirim.  I can do this homework myself.

 
2 Tezlik fiili (A verb of quickness)

This means doing something rapidly or suddenly.

one of these (ı,i,u,ü ) + ver(mek)
If the last vowel of the verb is a,ı=ı , e,i=i , o,u=u , ö,ü=ü

eg onu yazıverdim = I wrote it quickly (I scribbled it down)

Arkadaşım kapıda görünüverdi. = My friend appeared suddenly at the door.

Onu kaldırıverelim = Let´s quickly remove it

Köprü çöküverdi = The bridge suddenly collapsed.

İçkisini içiverdi = He gulped down his drink. 


3 Süreklilik fiili (A verbs of continuity)

This is done in two forms. 

A)  The action is continuous.
one of –a, -e and one of dur(mak), kal(mak), gel(mek).

Uyuyakaldım = I slept and did not get up. I stayed asleep 
gidedurdu = He went without stopping.
süregeldi = It continued without stopping. It kept coming

 

B)  The action is done over again without stopping.

–ıp, -ip, -up, -üp dur(mak), kal(mak), gel(mek)

Konuşup durdu = He spoke without stopping his speech.
Gidip durdu = He went without stopping.
Sürüp geldi = It continued without stopping.

Bu masal yıllardır bu yörede anlatılagelir.

This tale has been told in this area continuously for years.

 4 Yaklaşma Fiili (A verb of imminence)

It would nearly/almost happen, but it did not happen.

-e or -a + yaz(mak)

öleyazdım = I would nearly die.
Düşeyazdı = He would nearly fall.
Ayağım taşa takılınca, (az kalsın) düşeyazdım. When my foot got caught on a rock I very nearly fell       (az kalsın = almost)

5 Beklenmezlik Fiili (a verb of unexpectedness/improbability)

For unexpected or unlikely things.
eceği or acağı + tutmak

Gideceği tuttu. =She wanted to go (at an unexpected time)
Yazacağı tuttu. =He wanted to write (at an unexpected time)
 

 



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3.       Henry
2604 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 07:33 am

My attempt at

Gidiveriyorum - I´m going quickly, I´m dashing

Gidiverdim - I went quickly, I dashed

Gidivereceğim - I´ll go quickly, I´ll dash

Gidiveririm - I (will) go quickly, I dash

Gidiversem - If I go suddenly, If I dash

Gidivermeliyim - I must go quickly, I must dash

 



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4.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 02:41 pm

Agree with Henry that the tezlik fiil is best expressed in English like to do something suddenly, or really rapidly.

It can also be used when something happens in a surprise or a shock.

Araba duvara çarpıverdi:

could be the car suddenly hit the wall

but could also be expressing the car for some unexplained reason just went and hit the wall

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5.       si++
3785 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 02:46 pm

 

Quoting Henry

 4 Yaklaşma Fiili (A verb of imminence)

It would nearly/almost happen, but it did not happen.

-e or -a + yaz(mak)

öleyazdım = I would nearly die.
Düşeyazdı = He would nearly fall.
Ayağım taşa takılınca, (az kalsın) düşeyazdım. When my foot got caught on a rock I very nearly fell       (az kalsın = almost)

 

We are taught about this in grammar books but this is not something I use in my language. And I haven´t run into anybody who uses this form so far (as far as I remember).

I think this usage is becoming obsolete in daily language.

Usually we use az kalsın/neredeyse ( =nearly) like inEnglish with past continious tense (-yor + -du) or past future (-acak + -dı.

 

Az kalsın (neredeyse) ölüyordum = I nearly died.
Az kalsın
(neredeyse) düşüyordu = He nearly fell.
Ayağım taşa takılınca, az kalsın
  (neredeyse) düşüyordum = When my foot got caught on a rock I very nearly fell.

 

 

Az kalsın (neredeyse) ölecektim = I would nearly die.
Az kalsın
(neredeyse) düşecekti = He would nearly fall.
Ayağım taşa takılınca, az kalsın
  (neredeyse) düşecektim = When my foot got caught on a rock I very nearly fell.

 

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6.       Lilyana
114 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 11:34 pm

Thanks a lot!

7.       nalofel
3 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 12:35 am

 

Quoting Henry

Here are some notes from this site explaining Tezlik fiili

BİRLEŞİK FİİLLER (Compound verbs)

1 Yeterlilik fiili (A verb of ability)

a+bil(mek), e+bil(mek) =can  (This is used for possibilities too.)

If the last vowel of a verb is a back vowel (a,ı,o,u) it must be abil(mek)

If the last vowel of a verb is a front vowel (e,i,ö,ü ) it must be ebil(mek)

I can run = koşabilirim (ability)
I can come = gelebilirim (possibility)

Yardım edebilir misiniz? Can you help me?
Bu ödevi kendi başıma yapabilirim.  I can do this homework myself.

 
2 Tezlik fiili (A verb of quickness)

This means doing something rapidly or suddenly.

one of these (ı,i,u,ü ) + ver(mek)
If the last vowel of the verb is a,ı=ı , e,i=i , o,u=u , ö,ü=ü

eg onu yazıverdim = I wrote it quickly (I scribbled it down)

Arkadaşım kapıda görünüverdi. = My friend appeared suddenly at the door.

Onu kaldırıverelim = Let´s quickly remove it

Köprü çöküverdi = The bridge suddenly collapsed.

İçkisini içiverdi = He gulped down his drink. 


3 Süreklilik fiili (A verbs of continuity)

This is done in two forms. 

A)  The action is continuous.
one of –a, -e and one of dur(mak), kal(mak), gel(mek).

Uyuyakaldım = I slept and did not get up. I stayed asleep 
gidedurdu = He went without stopping.
süregeldi = It continued without stopping. It kept coming

 

B)  The action is done over again without stopping.

–ıp, -ip, -up, -üp dur(mak), kal(mak), gel(mek)

Konuşup durdu = He spoke without stopping his speech.
Gidip durdu = He went without stopping.
Sürüp geldi = It continued without stopping.

Bu masal yıllardır bu yörede anlatılagelir.

This tale has been told in this area continuously for years.

 4 Yaklaşma Fiili (A verb of imminence)

It would nearly/almost happen, but it did not happen.

-e or -a + yaz(mak)

öleyazdım = I would nearly die.
Düşeyazdı = He would nearly fall.
Ayağım taşa takılınca, (az kalsın) düşeyazdım. When my foot got caught on a rock I very nearly fell       (az kalsın = almost)

5 Beklenmezlik Fiili (a verb of unexpectedness/improbability)

For unexpected or unlikely things.
eceği or acağı + tutmak

Gideceği tuttu. =She wanted to go (at an unexpected time)
Yazacağı tuttu. =He wanted to write (at an unexpected time)
 

 

 

 

 

Henry, could share the address of the site where you took this info from?

 

thanks in advance

8.       insallah
1277 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 12:44 am

From what he says it appears he got it "from this site" .. Turkish Class.

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9.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

 

Quoting nalofel

Henry, could share the address of the site where you took this info from?

 

thanks in advance

 

It started with a re-write of some of the submissions to this thread

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_15515

then I added some examples from the excellent Manisa Turkish site

under ´The accelerative verb´

and I read some more in Geoffrey Lewis´s ´Turkish Grammar´ under compound verbs, pages 190-192.

 

 

 

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10.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

duplicated post



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11.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

duplicated



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12.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

duplicated



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13.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

arrrgh!!



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14.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:56 am

duplicated



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15.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

!@#%!!



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16.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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17.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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18.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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19.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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20.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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21.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

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22.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:57 am

unwanted



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23.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:58 am

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24.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:58 am

unwanted



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25.       Henry
2604 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 05:58 am

This is what happens when you post a response and hit send. The computer does nothing so you tap send a few more times, and ........ arrrrgh!!!!! multiple posts



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26.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 09:37 am

 

Quoting Henry

This is what happens when you post a response and hit send. The computer does nothing so you tap send a few more times, and ........ arrrrgh!!!!! multiple posts

 

Yes it happened to me a few times but I had stopped after one hit. So I ended up with 2 posts.

 

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