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Alex, Başbakan´dan Türk vatandaşlığı istedi
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1.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 12:50 am

Alex, Başbakan´dan Türk vatandaşlığı istedi
 
 
19.04.2011 - 12:37
Fenerbahçe´nin Brezilyalı futbolcusu Alex de Souza, Türk vatandaşlığına geçme isteğini Başbakan Recep Tayyip Erdoğan´a bizzat kendisi iletti.

Başbakan Erdoğan, bugün Fenerbahçe Kulübü Başkanı Aziz Yıldırım ve Alex de Souza´yı Başbakanlık´ta kabul etti. Kabulde Alex de Souza´nın, Türk vatandaşlığına geçme isteğini kendi ağzından Başbakan Erdoğan´a ilettiği öğrenildi.

Başbakan Erdoğan´ın bu istek üzerine ´´İsim belirlediniz mi?´´ diye sorduğu, bunun üzerine salonda gülüşmeler olduğu ifade edildi.

Kabulde ayrıca Aziz Yıldırım´ın, Başbakan Erdoğan´a 4 adet forma hediye ettiği, Başbakan Erdoğan´ın da konuklarına kravat armağan ettiği belirtildi.

 

Not : Bir Galatasaraylı olarak Alex´i Türk vatandaşı olarak görmek beni mutlu eder.
 

2.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 08:52 am

talking about equality of opportunity. wish every person who applied for turkish citizenship could meet with the prime minister. im a fan of gs too btw

3.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 09:37 am

And now our big problem is what his Turkish name is gonna be?? There was a poll for it and 10 thousand people participated.

4.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 09:54 am

 

Ben de bir isim önermek istiyorum Alex  için , " Ali " . Nasıl olur ?

[ I want to suggest a name for Alex, what about " Ali" ? ]

 

 

5.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 01:21 pm

aleks olabilir. benim öyle bi arkadaşım vardı. bence mahmure olsun

 

Ali güzel buarada. Muhammed Ali gibi.

 

*Ali is good. Like Muhammed Ali.

it could be aleks. i had a friend with that name. it should be mahmure *



Edited (4/20/2011) by Burak7777777
Edited (4/20/2011) by Burak7777777

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6.       scalpel
1472 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:11 am

 

Quoting Burak7777777

aleks olabilir. benim öyle bi arkadaşım vardı. bence mahmure olsun

 

Ali güzel buarada. Muhammed Ali gibi.

 

*Ali is good. Like Muhammed Ali.

it could be aleks. i had a friend with that name. it should be mahmure *

 

Mahmure´s gender is feminine and it´s not funny at all. Only a cincon supporter (tunci) could like it {#emotions_dlg.lol} 

 

7.       tunci
7149 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:18 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

Mahmure´s gender is feminine and it´s not funny at all. Only a cincon supporter (tunci) could like it {#emotions_dlg.lol} 

 

 

Cincon ? Scalpel you must be "Ezikbahce" supporter..{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

 

 

8.       scalpel
1472 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:23 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

Cincon ? Scalpel you must be "Ezikbahce" supporter..{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

 

100% Cool

9.       tunci
7149 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:30 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

100% Cool

 

 Sorry to hear that...dont worry everyone make mistakes {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

10.       scalpel
1472 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:59 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Sorry to hear that...dont worry everyone make mistakes {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

I love my mistakes..they made me become this awesome!

{#emotions_dlg.nargile} 

11.       armegon
1872 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 05:50 pm

Definitely, scalpel is in the right path with his great mistake...

12.       MeDanone
73 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 06:02 pm

Hannah Sultana!

13.       tunci
7149 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 08:19 pm

 

"Türkiye kupasını kazandıklarını görmüş iki fenerli yanyana gelince ne yapılır ?

Cevap : Aralarına girilip dilek tutulur, fotoğraf çektirilir...{#emotions_dlg.lol}

" What to do when we see two Fenerbahçe fans together who witnessed Fenerbahçe as Turkey Cup champion ? "

Answer : We should make a wish and have our picture taken by standing between them..

 

14.       tunci
7149 posts
 23 Apr 2011 Sat 10:29 am

Brazilian playmaker Alex asks PM for Turkish citizenship

 

Spor Toto Super League side Fenerbahçe’s Brazilian captain-playmaker Alex de Souza has conveyed his wish to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to become a Turkish citizen.
 

Erdoğan accepted Alex and Fenerbahçe President Aziz Yıldırım at the Prime Ministry yesterday. At the gathering Alex personally asked the prime minister to become a Turkish citizen. Upon this request, Erdoğan jokingly asked Alex whether he had picked a Turkish name. Yıldırım gifted Erdoğan with four jerseys as the prime minister presented ties to his guests.

Even if the Brazilian star acquires Turkish citizenship, he will not be eligible to play for the Turkish national football team because he has already played for the Brazilian team. The 33-year-old has been playing for Fenerbahçe since 2004 and has scored more than 100 goals in these seven years. He renewed his contract with the İstanbul team on Feb. 9, 2011. Alex is accepted as one of the best foreign footballers who have played in Turkish football leagues. He has an important role in Fenerbahçe’s two domestic championship wins in 2005 and 2007. Another successful foreigner serving Turkish sports, Montenegrin-Italian coach Bogdan Tanjevic, under whose helm the Turkish national basketball team became the silver medalist in the 2010 World Basketball Championship held in Turkey, was granted Turkish citizenship along with his family last week upon President Abdullah Gül’s approval.

 

15.       si++
3785 posts
 04 May 2011 Wed 12:34 pm

WISH: Alex (R) last month officially applied and made his wish clear while visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (C) along with Fenerbahçe chairman Aziz Yıldırım (R). AA photo


WISH: Alex (R) last month officially applied and made his wish clear while visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (C) along with Fenerbahçe chairman Aziz Yıldırım (R). AA photo

Fenerbahçe footballer Alex de Souza was granted Turkish citizenship, Lig TV reported on Tuesday.

The Brazilian star, who is also the captain for Fenerbahçe, last month officially applied and made his wish clear while visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan along with Fenerbahçe chairman Aziz Yıldırım.

The football captain’s name on Turkish ID card will be “Aleks,” spelled the way his name is pronounced in Turkish. Phew!

 

Source: here

16.       tunci
7149 posts
 04 May 2011 Wed 02:58 pm

 

"Aleks"...to be honest I was hoping him to choose an original Turkish name like Ali, Ahmet, Mehmet...etc...{#emotions_dlg.think} anyways..

 

 

17.       scalpel
1472 posts
 04 May 2011 Wed 06:08 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

"Aleks"...to be honest I was hoping him to choose an original Turkish name like Ali, Ahmet, Mehmet...etc...{#emotions_dlg.think} anyways..

 

 

 

Alex is short for alexander and it´s turkish version is iskender and it´s often shortened to iski. And you know we like to add -cim to the names: iskicim. {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} (see Levent Kırca)   

 

18.       armegon
1872 posts
 04 May 2011 Wed 07:02 pm

He has been in TR for about 7 years, his daughter is receiving education in Turkish schools and speaks Turkish fluently, his other daughters were all born in TR, he is a model for other players with his family life, and the most important thing is with his desire, he wanted to be a Turkish citizen...

19.       si++
3785 posts
 05 May 2011 Thu 09:44 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

"Aleks"...to be honest I was hoping him to choose an original Turkish name like Ali, Ahmet, Mehmet...etc...{#emotions_dlg.think} anyways..

 

 

 

It´s meaningless to ask him to change the name given to him by his parents. Since there is no "x" letter in our alphabet just fix it and that´s it. What more else?

20.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 05 May 2011 Thu 08:35 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

It´s meaningless to ask him to change the name given to him by his parents. Since there is no "x" letter in our alphabet just fix it and that´s it. What more else?

 

 Agree ... I just changed the spelling of my name when I got citizenship.

 

21.       si++
3785 posts
 08 May 2011 Sun 10:27 am

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Agree ... I just changed the spelling of my name when I got citizenship.

 

 

Usually the name change occurs when someone changes is religion and decides to become a muslim.

For example; Steven Demetre Georgiou (stage name Cat Stevens) became Yusuf Islam, Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr became Muhammad Ali, Ferdinand Lewis "Lew" Alcindor, Jr. became Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

 

22.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 08 May 2011 Sun 11:40 am

My thought... just change the name to Aleks for official things, and put Alex with an X on everything else. The Dutch alphabet doesn´t include an ö or ü either, but official documents can include these letters, so many Turkish people can still keep their names (including ´weird´ letters) as they are. The letters ı, ş, ğ and ç are not registered in the Dutch computers, so they can´t be included in official documents. However, you see these letters around Holland none the less on unofficial things. I´m not bothered by it, so let the man keep his X as well 



Edited (5/8/2011) by barba_mama

23.       si++
3785 posts
 08 May 2011 Sun 10:15 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

My thought... just change the name to Aleks for official things, and put Alex with an X on everything else.

 

That wouldn´t give the feeling that he is an insider. "X" is alien to us. It reminds us outsiders.

24.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 09 May 2011 Mon 09:31 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

That wouldn´t give the feeling that he is an insider. "X" is alien to us. It reminds us outsiders.

 

So... ü and ö are alien to "us" Dutch too, but Turkish people here still use it on their foreign documents, and letters like ğ are also used unofficially. I didn´t hear an official complain from the Turkish government that Turks need to work harder to not be perceived as "alien" in Holland, and lose those letters Turkey is becoming more international, and I´m sure people would get used to an X as well.

 

25.       si++
3785 posts
 09 May 2011 Mon 11:43 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

So... ü and ö are alien to "us" Dutch too, but Turkish people here still use it on their foreign documents, and letters like ğ are also used unofficially. I didn´t hear an official complain from the Turkish government that Turks need to work harder to not be perceived as "alien" in Holland, and lose those letters Turkey is becoming more international, and I´m sure people would get used to an X as well.

 

 

The thing is Turkish alphabet was designed as a phonemic one. (You can write down what you hear). X can be written as "ks" using our alphabet.

 

We are talking about a new Turkish citizen here. Are you talking about Dutch citizen Turks? So what happens when a Turk named "Özgür" for example is granted Dutch citizinship? Is his name preserved or written as Ozgur?

26.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 11 May 2011 Wed 10:06 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

The thing is Turkish alphabet was designed as a phonemic one. (You can write down what you hear). X can be written as "ks" using our alphabet.

 

We are talking about a new Turkish citizen here. Are you talking about Dutch citizen Turks? So what happens when a Turk named "Özgür" for example is granted Dutch citizinship? Is his name preserved or written as Ozgur?

 

I am talking about citizens. The ö pops up everywhere. And people who have letters that the system doesn´t recognize like ğ use those letter unofficially. I remember one of the kids in my class, his name was Doğan, while he was born in Holland. Only after starting to learn Turkish I discovered that we had all been saying his name wrong. We don´t have this silent ğ in Holland, so everybody called him Dogan. We all talk a lot about Europeans not accepting Turks on this website, but what does this whole letter issue say about Holland and Turkey. How Turks behave in Holland, and how foreigners are expected to behave in Turkey?

 

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