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40.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:18 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I just ignore your personal insults. This a cheap way to approach the discussion.

 

 Interesting point!

41.       tunci
7149 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:34 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I just ignore your personal insults. This a cheap way to approach the discussion.

You are so much wrong!!! Jesus Christ gives you a 100% guarantee of getting to Heaven. No one else does! No prophet and no angel!

So, you acknowledge that the Quran is a philosophy. Thanks.

Define me "divine message", please. Is it a peace of paper that is dropped from heaven?

 

 Personal insult ? is it me or you making personal insult ? Lets remember your previous comments ;

1.Irma is a complete ignorant

2. I think starving yourself for religious beliefs is stupid and bears no value

3. You are cheating yourselves

4. A hypocrasy comes to my mind

5. What you wrote is a pure philosophy made for men by men to

6. Or did you just shut down your brain and followed those who were just human beings like you?

 So my friend , whose words are they above ? who is the one insulting ?

* you say "I am known on this website because of my style and straightforwardness."

I think it is not "straightforwardness " , it is more like " straightdisrespectfullness "

 

And finally I will give some verses from the bible which you claim you believe it. Just think about on those verses before judge other people.

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing "  1 Corinthians 13:1-8

 

 

42.       Abla
3648 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:44 pm

tunci, did you ever listen to the South African Ahmed Deedat´s lectures? He spent all his life in this kind of discussions with born-again Christians. I actually agree with lemon: the dialogue is useless.

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43.       tunci
7149 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:49 pm

 

Quoting Abla

tunci, did you ever listen to the South African Ahmed Deedat´s lectures? He spent all his life in this kind of discussions with born-again Christians. I actually agree with lemon: the dialogue is useless.

 

 Abla, I didnt listen that person but I know what you mean. You are absolutelly right..

44.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:49 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Personal insult ? is it me or you making personal insult ? Lets remember your previous comments ;

1.Irma is a complete ignorant

2. I think starving yourself for religious beliefs is stupid and bears no value

3. You are cheating yourselves

4. A hypocrasy comes to my mind

5. What you wrote is a pure philosophy made for men by men to

6. Or did you just shut down your brain and followed those who were just human beings like you?

 So my friend , whose words are they above ? who is the one insulting ?

* you say "I am known on this website because of my style and straightforwardness."

I think it is not "straightforwardness " , it is more like " straightdisrespectfullness "

 

And finally I will give some verses from the bible which you claim you believe it. Just think about on those verses before judge other people.

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing "  1 Corinthians 13:1-8

 

 

 

Where do I say Tunci is a narrowminded (in comparison to Tunci who stated so re: Lemon)? Where do you see a personal insult?

All you brought is something general I state in general about people. Where do you see a personal insult?

Tunci, you often quote Bible. Bible is full of Gods wisdom. It is my favorite book. Love is above anything. If I have faith and dont have love then my faith is worth nothing. You see everything is created through the love of God (not kinda love we express to each other). God says love your enemy. Amazing! Can you do that? If you cant then you are not able to enter Heaven.

However, I find no such wisdom in any other book. Unfortunately, Quran has nothing to say about love.

45.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:50 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Interesting point!

 

And your point?

 

 

46.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:51 pm

 

Quoting Abla

tunci, did you ever listen to the South African Ahmed Deedat´s lectures? He spent all his life in this kind of discussions with born-again Christians. I actually agree with lemon: the dialogue is useless.

 

Deedat died having no hope nor belief that he was saved. I feel pity for him. He was a great showman.

47.       tunci
7149 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:55 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Where do I say Tunci is a narrowminded (in comparison to Tunci who stated so re: Lemon)? Where do you see a personal insult?

All you brought is something general I state in general about people. Where do you see a personal insult?

Tunci, you often quote Bible. Bible is full of Gods wisdom. It is my favorite book. Love is above anything. If I have faith and dont have love then my faith is worth nothing. You see everything is created through the love of God (not kinda love we express to each other). God says love your enemy. Amazing! Can you do that? If you cant then you are not able to enter Heaven.

However, I find no such wisdom in any other book. Unfortunately, Quran has nothing to say about love.

 

 I wll ask you only one question .Lemon, did you ever Read the Quaran ? Btw I read the bible. Old and new testament.

 

48.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:17 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I just ignore your personal insults. This a cheap way to approach the discussion.

 

 I said this was a good point because you are the master of personal insults and I agree that it is a cheap way to approach a discussion.  You don´t engage in a debate, you attack.  Its fine if you don´t agree with people but do you have to be so MEAN??? 

49.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:31 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I said this was a good point because you are the master of personal insults and I agree that it is a cheap way to approach a discussion.  You don´t engage in a debate, you attack.  Its fine if you don´t agree with people but do you have to be so MEAN??? 

 

I was so. I admit. However, I try to avoid PERSONAL attacks. Please try to give some credit to my personality. I attack your religion, Lisa, not you. So far, havent insulted you. But you have. I do engage in a debate. I bring in more reasoning to my way of perceiving than anyone else here. Who raise against me having no good argument but personal insults. Shame on you, Lisa that you jump on a wagon instead of saying anything contructive.

I am mean to false teachings and false religions.

 

 

50.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:33 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 I wll ask you only one question .Lemon, did you ever Read the Quaran ? Btw I read the bible. Old and new testament.

 

Tunci, you havent answered my questions.

 

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