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50.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:33 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 I wll ask you only one question .Lemon, did you ever Read the Quaran ? Btw I read the bible. Old and new testament.

 

Tunci, you havent answered my questions.

 

51.       tunci
7149 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:43 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

Tunci, you havent answered my questions.

 

 

 

1.Irma is a complete ignorant

2. I think starving yourself for religious beliefs is stupid and bears no value

3. You are cheating yourselves

4. A hypocrasy comes to my mind

5. What you wrote is a pure philosophy made for men by men to

6. Or did you just shut down your brain and followed those who were just human beings like you?

 

What about the first one ? You are calling " Irma " as ignorant . and you are insulting the whole Muslim community and their holy values. Anyone here  insulting Bible or Christian values ?

Plus you didnt answer my question either.

 

52.       lemon
1374 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 10:35 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 

1.Irma is a complete ignorant

2. I think starving yourself for religious beliefs is stupid and bears no value

3. You are cheating yourselves

4. A hypocrasy comes to my mind

5. What you wrote is a pure philosophy made for men by men to

6. Or did you just shut down your brain and followed those who were just human beings like you?

 

What about the first one ? You are calling " Irma " as ignorant . and you are insulting the whole Muslim community and their holy values. Anyone here  insulting Bible or Christian values ?

Plus you didnt answer my question either.

 

 

1. Are you Irma? A person who speaks in public knows that he/she can be criticised. Or Tunci doesnt know this.

2. Tunci, it was my opinion given on fasting, it wasnt directed personally to you. Learn to read with understanding.

3. Yes, all religious people cheat themselves. Again, an opinion given in general.

4. Tunci, does it directly state: Tunci is a hypocrate? Well, if the shoes fit, wear them.

5. Where do you see a personal insult? Arent you too much sensitive? Not mature enough to distinguish the difference of giving opinions in general and conversations? How old are you?

6. Again, was it directed to you personally?

 

Tunci, your claims that I insulted you personally is a typical scamming of another person, because you found zero arguments to share, so this is easy to victimize yourself and accuse the other part while using a personal insult.

Tunci, checkmate!

I insult Irma (and other ignorant leaders) as much as I can. Because they distort the true message of Christ. And I have a full right to stand up and say that what Irma does is wrong.



Edited (8/18/2011) by lemon

53.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 10:46 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

1. Are you Irma? A person who speaks in public knows that he/she can be criticised. Or Tunci doesnt know this.

2. Tunci, it was my opinion given on fasting, it wasnt directed personally to you. Learn to read with understanding.

3. Yes, all religious people cheat themselves. Again, an opinion given in general.

4. Tunci, does it directly state: Tunci is a hypocrate? Well, if the shoes fit, wear them.

5. Where do you see a personal insult? Arent you too much sensitive? Not mature enough to distinguish the difference of giving opinions in general and conversations? How old are you?

6. Again, was it directed to you personally?

 

Tunci, your claims that I insulted you personally is a typical scamming of another person, because you found zero arguments to share, so this is easy to victimize yourself and accuse the other part while using a personal insult.

Tunci, checkmate!

I insult Irma (and other ignorant leaders) as much as I can. Because they distort the true message of Christ. And I have a full right to stand up and say that what Irma does is wrong.

 

 Here we go again. The queen of insults are on the stage. Hey, My friend I dont know who you are but You keep contradicting yourself, if you want to spread Gospel [your missionary work] then you have to stop attacking people and change your childish attitues. Plus stop personal insults. Jesus Christ whom you are claiming to follow, never attacked people as you did. He [Jesus] spread LOVE, not HATRET . Be a good witness on earth.

Note ; Gospel means "Good news " , Is this your style giving people Good News ?



Edited (8/18/2011) by tunci
Edited (8/18/2011) by tunci

54.       lemon
1374 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 11:34 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Here we go again. The queen of insults are on the stage. Hey, My friend I dont know who you are but You keep contradicting yourself, if you want to spread Gospel [your missionary work] then you have to stop attacking people and change your childish attitues. Plus stop personal insults. Jesus Christ whom you are claiming to follow, never attacked people as you did. He [Jesus] spread LOVE, not HATRET . Be a good witness on earth.

Note ; Gospel means "Good news " , Is this your style giving people Good News ?

 

Your personal insults : Seems like your mind has a narrow look at things ,especially to Islamic Rituels. First you need take your horse glasses off [its a saying] and see the whole context

The queen of insults are on the stage.

change your childish attitues

 

Lemons personal insults: Zero

 

As for if Jesus criticised or not, I am afraid my dear friend (whoever you are) you know too little from Injeel. He did criticise pharisees (by the way orthodox religious leaders).

First learn to read with understanding. Just plain reading gives nothing, really.

Spreading Good News doesnt mean agreeing with religions and thereof stupid outcomes that are traditions. Spreading Good News means making people aware of their sins and seek the repentance, reconciliation and the Kingdom of God.

55.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 11:53 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

1. Are you Irma? A person who speaks in public knows that he/she can be criticised. Or Tunci doesnt know this.

2. Tunci, it was my opinion given on fasting, it wasnt directed personally to you. Learn to read with understanding.

3. Yes, all religious people cheat themselves. Again, an opinion given in general.

4. Tunci, does it directly state: Tunci is a hypocrate? Well, if the shoes fit, wear them.

5. Where do you see a personal insult? Arent you too much sensitive? Not mature enough to distinguish the difference of giving opinions in general and conversations? How old are you?

6. Again, was it directed to you personally?

 

Tunci, your claims that I insulted you personally is a typical scamming of another person, because you found zero arguments to share, so this is easy to victimize yourself and accuse the other part while using a personal insult.

Tunci, checkmate!

I insult Irma (and other ignorant leaders) as much as I can. Because they distort the true message of Christ. And I have a full right to stand up and say that what Irma does is wrong.

 

 Tunci, does it directly state: Tunci is a hypocrate? Well, if the shoes fit, wear them.

Tunci, your claims that I insulted you personally is a typical scamming of another person,

I insult Irma (and other ignorant leaders) as much as I can

Lemon´s personal insults zero ? what about the ones above ?

Listen my friend, I dont wanna carry on this useless argument with you. Only one last thing I want to say that is ;

If your  heaven is a place in where there are people like you, then I dont wanna go to Heaven. Keep your heaven for yourself.

 

 

 

56.       Nuraa-xo
152 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 02:01 pm

Lemon every religion is built on the same foundation and that is faith, faith that the religion you´re practicing is right, that the Holy Book you read is right, and faith that God does exist..
Remember Islam is from the same string of monetheistic faiths as Judaism and Christianity.. They all derive from God (The idea of one God - started up by Abraham or Ibrahim)

Also remember that all 3 prophets are related to each other and all related to Noah (Nuh) and Abrahim (Ibrahim)..

All 3 preach the same message, and these religious conflicts in the world are started up by uneducated people who believe their own religion is the right one. You need to remember that not only Christians live on this world, but also Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and Atheists and we need to learn how to co-operate and live peacefully with each other.

 

As for fasting, Christians fast aswell, and since you are not supportive of the whole ideals behind ramadan, perhaps you should refrain from talking about the religious side of fasting since it looks like it gets you a bit emotional. Also I think you have no right to insult people for following their faith, how would you feel if I insulted yours?

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57.       lemon
1374 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 02:04 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 Tunci, does it directly state: Tunci is a hypocrate? Well, if the shoes fit, wear them.

Tunci, your claims that I insulted you personally is a typical scamming of another person,

I insult Irma (and other ignorant leaders) as much as I can

Lemon´s personal insults zero ? what about the ones above ?

Listen my friend, I dont wanna carry on this useless argument with you. Only one last thing I want to say that is ;

If your  heaven is a place in where there are people like you, then I dont wanna go to Heaven. Keep your heaven for yourself.

 

 

 

None of those above was a personal direct insult to you. Except the one that I accused you later with scamming in order to prove that you manipulate with my words that had nothing personal to you. You successfully victimized yourself and you are good at it. 

Well, from now on I should think that

Irma = Tunci

Fasting = Tunci

Orthodox leaders = Tunci

All victims = Tunci

All insults automatically go to Tunci

Tunci = everyone, everything.

When lemon criticises anything it insults Tunci, when lemon criticises someone it insults Tunci. I didnt know Tunci was omnipresent and represents everything.

 

You dont know what you are wishing yourself. If you dont want Heaven then you wont go there. AMEN!

 

58.       lemon
1374 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 02:19 pm

 

Quoting Nuraa-xo

Lemon every religion is built on the same foundation and that is faith, faith that the religion you´re practicing is right, that the Holy Book you read is right, and faith that God does exist..
Remember Islam is from the same string of monetheistic faiths as Judaism and Christianity.. They all derive from God (The idea of one God - started up by Abraham or Ibrahim)

Also remember that all 3 prophets are related to each other and all related to Noah (Nuh) and Abrahim (Ibrahim)..

All 3 preach the same message, and these religious conflicts in the world are started up by uneducated people who believe their own religion is the right one. You need to remember that not only Christians live on this world, but also Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and Atheists and we need to learn how to co-operate and live peacefully with each other.

 

As for fasting, Christians fast aswell, and since you are not supportive of the whole ideals behind ramadan, perhaps you should refrain from talking about the religious side of fasting since it looks like it gets you a bit emotional. Also I think you have no right to insult people for following their faith, how would you feel if I insulted yours?

Noorah,

Completely disagree with you. I suggest you do a homework (a deeper theology) not the shallow statements made to simplify the truth. That is Satan´s work. He mixes a bit of truth with lies and feeds with it masses, mainly people like you.

I respect everyone as a person but I dont respect their spiritual choice.

Christians fast? Oh, yes, religious christians (catholics and orthodox, because they have a need to show off their "good" religious acts). However, nowhere in the Bible it says you must fast. Theres no such order. Opposite, Bible states if you fast, do it the way that nobody should know that you fast. And fasting is an individual act (not group).

No one can insult my faith. There is nothing stupid in Jesus.

Before you say anything to me, educate yourself please on theology, doctrines and dogmas.

 

 

59.       Nuraa-xo
152 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 02:37 pm

Lemon, considering I am actually majoring in religious theology in a country that has NO biased views on religion, I am most likely more intelligent than you on this subject.

What makes you think that these peoples beliefs are stupid? Who are you to even critisize religious rituals as well. WHO ARE YOU? A muslim doesnt fast to get praise and sympathy, a muslim fasts for themselves and God. You act like you are educated in this subject, but it doesnt look like it. Just because you see a couple of pictures of muslims breaking their fasts with other people, you assume we do it as a selfish act instead of a selfless one. And it is selfless, considering when you strip away all the cultural influences, Ramadan is for the INDIVIDUAL, to detox their body from sins, to show them how lucky they are to have food and water and also is a revision lesson lets say to remind the Muslims what Islam is all about.

Granted, there nothing stupid about Jesus. The only thing I find wrong about Christianity is that you believe that he is the son of God. But unlike you, I am only commenting on YOUR faith, I am not ridiculing it to cause more controversy.

 

So before ridiculing and questioning other faiths, why not study about your own religion? Get more educated about Christianity and then you might see there is good and bad in every religion and belief system in this world. Until then though bitter lemon let the muslims fast in peace.

And also remember lemon, many people die in the name of religion, instead of causing hate, we need to preach acceptance. If you don´t like Islam, tough, its here to stay. Why don´t you focus on something more important like family, Jesus, work and life etc.

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60.       Aida krishan
92 posts
 18 Aug 2011 Thu 02:43 pm

Quote: Nuraa-xo

To Lemon..."You act like you are educated in this subject, but it doesnt look like it."

I totally agree with you Nuraa..

Thanks.

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