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Turkey’s EU membership process frozen in cold ‘European winter’
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:44 pm |
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First, I am NOT angry. I am sick of bunch of European politician´s double starndart approach with Turkiye. There is a difference. Their excuises and fear of potential Turkiye´s EU membership by thinking that We might invade Europe.  they have other fears and political, religious ,racist concerns too...But after all silly things , they need us more than we need them for long term.
All you say is true. EU indeed is scared that Turks will invade EU. They have already partly done so (in the far past and today). Yes, there are other political and religious fears. Those fears have their grounds, they are not fictional. The experience shows that. Constant terror acts and demographic growth of Turks and other asians across Europe.
Now having said that above, I should say it is even better that Turkey doents join EU. You and others repeatedly have mentioned the reasons why shouldnt Turkey be let into EU. Turkey is doing far well without EU. I personally do not view this union positively now for couple of years. It looks good, but its not doing well in fact.
I think the good luck has turned away from the west and is accumulating in the east slowly but steadily. A few years ago not many people would confirm the potential and wealth of China.
If you agree with me if EU isnt good for Turkey then why do you get cross with the opinion of EU? Why is every Turk is unhappy when EU rejects access for Turkey?
It gives me a thought that truly deep in your heart you DO WISH to be part of EU. And whenever it rejects it makes you angry, otherwise why care?
Lets say that I have applied for the membership of one popular club, filled in all possible papers, submitted, in return I received an answer to fulfill certain conditions, quite a big list. So I try and re-apply again and again every year. Meanwhile I have prosperred myself and started observing the negative fruits of the club. What do I do? Keep applying or gladly withdraw and concentrate on my own business and multiply my own wealth?
I would chose the second option. And would never mention the club again and show no regret, anger or disappointment with anything associated with the club.
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:44 pm |
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I am leaving in France and the thing is that European greatest fear is about the religion and loosing theyr identity. I assume turkish people would be christianal tradition it is a long time you guys would be a part of EU. They would need an economic whealthy being such as Turkey´s. They know it. But it is not a good time for Turkey to enter EU : Euros money is killing us everything is soooo expensive and people are becoming more and more poor.
You know what it is : when a country is in economical crisis people accuse foreigners for that problem. And this is what happening right now in France.
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 04:14 pm |
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I am leaving in France and the thing is that European greatest fear is about the religion and loosing theyr identity. I assume turkish people would be christianal tradition it is a long time you guys would be a part of EU. They would need an economic whealthy being such as Turkey´s. They know it. But it is not a good time for Turkey to enter EU : Euros money is killing us everything is soooo expensive and people are becoming more and more poor.
You know what it is : when a country is in economical crisis people accuse foreigners for that problem. And this is what happening right now in France.
I think your (France) problem is SARKOZY. You must solve that firstly and than you can solve your economic problems...
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 04:28 pm |
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I couln´t not said it better lol. We all are waiting to see what will be our next president...
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 04:35 pm |
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Soon Armenian suicide aguments will start in there, because of elections.
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 04:47 pm |
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Wher? In Turkey? or France
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 05:22 pm |
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In France of course, You cant face up to your history thats why you are struggling with our´s... You have funny politicians in there... We are having fun whilst watching them...
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 06:19 pm |
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All you say is true. EU indeed is scared that Turks will invade EU. They have already partly done so (in the far past and today). Yes, there are other political and religious fears. Those fears have their grounds, they are not fictional. The experience shows that. Constant terror acts and demographic growth of Turks and other asians across Europe.
Now having said that above, I should say it is even better that Turkey doents join EU. You and others repeatedly have mentioned the reasons why shouldnt Turkey be let into EU. Turkey is doing far well without EU. I personally do not view this union positively now for couple of years. It looks good, but its not doing well in fact.
I think the good luck has turned away from the west and is accumulating in the east slowly but steadily. A few years ago not many people would confirm the potential and wealth of China.
If you agree with me if EU isnt good for Turkey then why do you get cross with the opinion of EU? Why is every Turk is unhappy when EU rejects access for Turkey?
It gives me a thought that truly deep in your heart you DO WISH to be part of EU. And whenever it rejects it makes you angry, otherwise why care?
Lets say that I have applied for the membership of one popular club, filled in all possible papers, submitted, in return I received an answer to fulfill certain conditions, quite a big list. So I try and re-apply again and again every year. Meanwhile I have prosperred myself and started observing the negative fruits of the club. What do I do? Keep applying or gladly withdraw and concentrate on my own business and multiply my own wealth?
I would chose the second option. And would never mention the club again and show no regret, anger or disappointment with anything associated with the club.
Well, this post of yours was for tunci, but as he is my dear hoca (I jump on my feet and button my jacket every time I see his name on this forum) and you the best online friend of mine, I feel free to place my nose in this topic which you two probably will start to fight very soon!
"all you say is true" is a good start and probably that will make hoca think as if all what he sad in his entire life is true! You don´t have to spoil him this way!.. Anyway, I can´t say the same for the rest of your post. There are some things that he would easily go mad on! (someone should inform me if the proper particle is by here? ).
Anyway, this is just to let you know that I will take your side .. 
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 06:56 pm |
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Well, this post of yours was for tunci, but as he is my dear hoca (I jump on my feet and button my jacket every time I see his name on this forum) and you the best online friend of mine, I feel free to place my nose in this topic which you two probably will start to fight very soon!
"all you say is true" is a good start and probably that will make hoca think as if all what he sad in his entire life is true! You don´t have to spoil him this way!.. Anyway, I can´t say the same for the rest of your post. There are some things that he would easily go mad on! (someone should inform me if the proper particle is by here? ).
Anyway, this is just to let you know that I will take your side ..
I tell you what Scalpel, You are the most successful provocator I have ever witnessed in my entire life..Thanks for your kind words but I intend not to fight with Lemon.
Last words for this topic on my side would be ;
EU membership is Turkey´s state policy. We have been waiting for fully membership for long time. In the past Western Europe countries such as Germany,Holland..etc were attractive to people because of its economic ,social opportunities. But in recent years Europe started to lose its attractiveness, and what we see now is they are on the loosing road. Life in Europe is getting more difficult each day. But it is still a state policy whether people like it or not. What we need to do is to take this issue to the referandum may be. So that according to result of referandum we would decide to go on or quit negotiations with EU.
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12 Dec 2011 Mon 07:31 pm |
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Last words for this topic on my side would be ;
EU membership is Turkey´s state policy. We have been waiting for fully membership for long time. In the past Western Europe countries such as Germany,Holland..etc were attractive to people because of its economic ,social opportunities. But in recent years Europe started to lose its attractiveness, and what we see now is they are on the loosing road. Life in Europe is getting more difficult each day. But it is still a state policy whether people like it or not. What we need to do is to take this issue to the referandum may be. So that according to result of referandum we would decide to go on or quit negotiations with EU.
Hocam, I agree with you.. we should not board on a ship with the name EU which is sinking..our raft maybe a a bit primitive but yet safe enough.. 
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What else it could be?