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10.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 02:46 am

So maybe it was an idiotic article but it woke you from your coma!  {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}Where have you been? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

11.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 08:01 am

Vineyards,

as usually, words of wisdom. Nice to read you.

12.       si++
3785 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 09:46 am

I suggest you go to article link provided and add those comments in that page. Maybe you can sort it out with him. Your comments here probably will go unnoticed by him.

Quoting vineyards

This is one of the most idiotic articles I have ever read. Anyone calling himself a journalist must first of all know about the basic facts about his/her country. What can the audience of this piece of junk article be: primary school students? Comparing Turkey with Saudi Arabia a welfare society almost singularly dependent on oil, with a country featuring economic depth and diversity essentially based on the hard work of its people. This guy doesn´t even know income per capita doesn´t denote economic power. I am sure he hails Kuwait and Luxembourg as economic giants too.

Turkey has a much larger economy than even the richest Arab League country (about twice as large as Saudi Arabia) and its GDP per capita is better than most Arab countries save a few oil-rich ones.

Let´s set the record straight, most Turkish people don´t like Arabs and vice-versa. It is only through the efforts of our Arab loving government that we are getting popular in the region. Our TV shows also help with our publicity. It is not that I endorse this lack of affection but it is unfortunately true.

Unfortunately, most of our journalists are utterly shallow creatures. Many of them are bigots to start with, some are sexist and some are machos. There are female columnists writing about their g-strings and some advocating hijab claiming that would liberate them. It is getting more and more difficult to find a piece of news free from bias, partiality and bigotry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

13.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 10:06 am

Thank you for your suggestion si++. The problem is he would rank about the last on the list of journalists that I am pissed off with. In fact, I had not even heard of him before reading what looks like his primary school composition assignment.

Thank you for bringing this into our attention but I hate these formula articles where the writer takes the freedom of ignorantly raving about the results of a poll which he sees a chance to inject his irrelevant opinions.



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14.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 10:14 am

My father has serious health problems and the doc says my blood pressure has gone up due to excessive stress. Thanks for asking where I have been. I hope I can spend more time here from now on.

Quoting Elisabeth

So maybe it was an idiotic article but it woke you from your coma! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}Where have you been? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

15.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 12:34 pm

Judaphobia, Turkophobia etc.; these words were not tokenized for nothing. There are indeed all sorts of phobias in the world. Many of them are deep-rooted. One such phobia is Turkophobia. From our perspective, it is so strong, anyone who lived in Turkey through the 70´s and 80´s would tell you, the Christian world hates Turkey and they have rarely sided with Turkey in any international conflict. This is very slowly getting weaker but it is far from over. A few days ago, an old Italian colleague of mine was with me in Istanbul. He confirms that by saying: there are still many Italians who think Turks, Iranians and Arabs are all Islamic fundamentalists and they must be avoided. He adds those who had a chance to visit Turkey have a totally different opinion.

There is no fast and easy cure for hatred. It is human nature. No matter how advanced we get, we still have the instincts of a beast. Though we act on a more complicated abstraction layer, we still display the same behaviour pattern of the stone age caveman.

 

 

 

 

Good point about the Judo-phobia. I have encountered this so many times, it´s not funny anymore! And I have to say, the media in the Islamic world is not helping either. I remember anti-Jewish remarks from my friends whenever Israel was on the Turkish (and Dutch) news for killing Palestines, but when Palestines were on the Dutch news for killing Israeli´s, somehow it didn´t show up in the Turkish news! And the difference between Israeli and Jewish is also not clear to a lot of people.

 

 



Edited (2/27/2012) by vineyards
Edited (2/27/2012) by vineyards

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16.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 02:48 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

My father has serious health problems and the doc says my blood pressure has gone up due to excessive stress. Thanks for asking where I have been. I hope I can spend more time here from now on.

 

 

 

Sorry to hear about your father´s health.  Best wishes to you both.  Your thought provoking posts have been missed!

17.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 05:34 pm

Thank you.

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

Sorry to hear about your father´s health. Best wishes to you both. Your thought provoking posts have been missed!

 

 

18.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Feb 2012 Mon 11:20 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Thank you.

 

 

 

And I used to hate you so much. What a stupid person was I (still am)!

Take care of yourself, you are not as old as your father. You are to live to look after your son´s sons. 

Post more, please.

19.       Abla
3648 posts
 28 Feb 2012 Tue 07:40 am

Quote:vineyards

There is no fast and easy cure for hatred. It is human nature. No matter how advanced we get, we still have the instincts of a beast. Though we act on a more complicated abstraction layer, we still display the same behaviour pattern of the stone age caveman.

 

Ok, as long as we don´t forget that most people are friendly, emphatic, unselfish and ready to help. To the extent that it surprises me over and over. These qualities are as typical to humans than cruelty and greed, which are often the fruit of ignorance.

20.       tunci
7149 posts
 28 Feb 2012 Tue 11:55 am

 

Quoting vineyards

My father has serious health problems and the doc says my blood pressure has gone up due to excessive stress. Thanks for asking where I have been. I hope I can spend more time here from now on.

 

 

 

 Çok geçmiş olsun Vineyards.

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