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Turkish elections
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28 Jun 2006 Wed 09:53 pm |
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Merhaba herkese,
what do you think about election campaigns in Turkey?
For me there are colorful and spectacular, but in last years much more closer to some european or american.
Is it true that candidates visit private houses?
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28 Jun 2006 Wed 09:58 pm |
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well a new election on out of Turkey's door i think and we Turkish people already ready to big lies of candites,but i have to admit they so know well to cheat we people by the big dream words and flattering compliments till to get votes and yes elections very colourfull since 1980's in Turkey,politicans so like to spend we citizen's moneys in every way
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28 Jun 2006 Wed 11:11 pm |
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It's same everywhere - demagogy to "buy" a votes, but it's like selling a product. But, in shop after two weeks you can say - I don't like it, I want other one 
I'm interested in everything about campaigns in Turkey
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28 Jun 2006 Wed 11:34 pm |
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 12:03 am |
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Quoting Kadir37: Demagog;
Demos + gogos = Halk avcısı in Latin.
We translate it as "oy avcısı".
In Turkia, you can say I don't like you, I want other party on power, five years later (probably after you said, "Size oy veren ellerim kırılsaydı") 
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I'm sorry, I don't exactly understand what you meant by Latin, but if you mean the word 'demagogue'/demagog comes from Latin, I consider it as my duty to correc tyou here
It comes from ancient greek From the words:
demos = the people
agogos = leading
It doesn't really matter, but maybe there are other people out there, like me, who like to know the origin of certain words. I like the origin to be correct
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 12:36 am |
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 12:37 am |
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Quoting Kadir37: Thanks for your correction Deli_kızın.
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Önemli değil
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 04:56 am |
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kimse başbakan , recip erdoghan?
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 10:17 am |
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i dont understant one think they spend a lot of money for election but still standarts is lower than worlds we still dont use computer for election all over the world people go for votes and than go back to their life but in turkey election day we are not allowed to go out that day its same for me i mean where are we living?they spend millions of liras for promations but they cant do very simple thing which century are we on if anybody knows please let me know
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 01:19 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Kadir37: Demagog;
Demos + gogos = Halk avcısı in Latin. |
It comes from ancient greek From the words:
demos = the people
agogos = leading
It doesn't really matter, but maybe there are other people out there, like me, who like to know the origin of certain words. I like the origin to be correct |
Exactly! And to be accurate, the origin of the first part is in the verb diero (to divide) and the second part comes from the verb ago (to lead)
In ancient greek times, a demagog was a political person who - in order to achieve his goals - was misleading the crowd with fake promises, faulse statements and flattery.
How true huh?
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 01:32 pm |
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 10:14 am |
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Quoting sophie: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Kadir37: Demagog;
Demos + gogos = Halk avcısı in Latin. |
It comes from ancient greek From the words:
demos = the people
agogos = leading
It doesn't really matter, but maybe there are other people out there, like me, who like to know the origin of certain words. I like the origin to be correct |
Exactly! And to be accurate, the origin of the first part is in the verd diero (to divide) and the second part comes from the verb ago (to lead)
In ancient greek times, a demagog was a political person who - in order to achieve his goals - was misleading the crowd with fake promises, faulse statements and flattery.
How true huh?
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Yes absolutely true, demagogy camed from ancient Greece and even those Greeks said that the democracy isn't perfect (like Aristo for example)
Why? Because people belives in words, rhetoric and results (what the politicians really do) isn't so sweet like in those words.
Many years after Alex. de Toqueville wrote in "Democracy in America" that we vote for images, not for truly persons.
It will take places how long we have campaigns... but, this is democracy.
I think what is also specific in Turkey is this:
- lot of meetings with people
- very colorful
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 11:45 am |
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MORE QUANTUM PHYSICS
A demagogue is not necessarily misleading.
A demagogue is one that speaks in favor of the crowd's own existing beliefs and tendencies to gain the crowd's political support. He may or may not be misleading.
Am I wrong Sophie, dear? 
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 11:49 am |
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democracy is a life style,and i don't believe its only a rules matter.U can write most democratical rules by a simple pen,but to live it possible only believe to its necessary.So if only politicans really could be real democrats as how they be4 elections after got to votes...
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 12:04 pm |
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Democracy has more to do with how a certain society is structured than whether or not individual persons in that society believe in democracy.
Even if 80% of a society believe in democracy, democracy will have a little chance of existence in that society if 90% income of that society is from a single source.
Those who control the income source will have the absolute ruling power. Rulers in such societies can only be replaced by force, and that will not bring democracy either: Just new rulers.
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 01:14 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: MORE QUANTUM PHYSICS
A demagogue is not necessarily misleading.
A demagogue is one that speaks in favor of the crowd's own existing beliefs and tendencies to gain the crowd!s political support. He may or may not be misleading.
Am I wrong Sophie, dear? |
Yes Alpha mou, you are right. A demagogue is exactly that.
What I mentioned in my post, was the negative meaning that this word had in ancient times.
Now, if you're asking me, I still have a negative opinion about these people. They are always misleading us, using words that we wanna hear and promising things that from the beginning they know that are impossible to happen.
And we, silly crowd, we are following them, hoping for a better future each time.
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