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29 Jun 2006 Thu 01:19 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Kadir37: Demagog;
Demos + gogos = Halk avcısı in Latin. |
It comes from ancient greek  From the words:
demos = the people
agogos = leading
It doesn't really matter, but maybe there are other people out there, like me, who like to know the origin of certain words. I like the origin to be correct  |
Exactly! And to be accurate, the origin of the first part is in the verb diero (to divide) and the second part comes from the verb ago (to lead)
In ancient greek times, a demagog was a political person who - in order to achieve his goals - was misleading the crowd with fake promises, faulse statements and flattery.
How true huh?
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29 Jun 2006 Thu 01:32 pm |
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 10:14 am |
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Quoting sophie: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Kadir37: Demagog;
Demos + gogos = Halk avcısı in Latin. |
It comes from ancient greek From the words:
demos = the people
agogos = leading
It doesn't really matter, but maybe there are other people out there, like me, who like to know the origin of certain words. I like the origin to be correct |
Exactly! And to be accurate, the origin of the first part is in the verd diero (to divide) and the second part comes from the verb ago (to lead)
In ancient greek times, a demagog was a political person who - in order to achieve his goals - was misleading the crowd with fake promises, faulse statements and flattery.
How true huh?
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Yes absolutely true, demagogy camed from ancient Greece and even those Greeks said that the democracy isn't perfect (like Aristo for example)
Why? Because people belives in words, rhetoric and results (what the politicians really do) isn't so sweet like in those words.
Many years after Alex. de Toqueville wrote in "Democracy in America" that we vote for images, not for truly persons.
It will take places how long we have campaigns... but, this is democracy.
I think what is also specific in Turkey is this:
- lot of meetings with people
- very colorful
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 11:45 am |
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MORE QUANTUM PHYSICS
A demagogue is not necessarily misleading.
A demagogue is one that speaks in favor of the crowd's own existing beliefs and tendencies to gain the crowd's political support. He may or may not be misleading.
Am I wrong Sophie, dear? 
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 11:49 am |
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democracy is a life style,and i don't believe its only a rules matter.U can write most democratical rules by a simple pen,but to live it possible only believe to its necessary.So if only politicans really could be real democrats as how they be4 elections after got to votes...
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 12:04 pm |
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Democracy has more to do with how a certain society is structured than whether or not individual persons in that society believe in democracy.
Even if 80% of a society believe in democracy, democracy will have a little chance of existence in that society if 90% income of that society is from a single source.
Those who control the income source will have the absolute ruling power. Rulers in such societies can only be replaced by force, and that will not bring democracy either: Just new rulers.
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30 Jun 2006 Fri 01:14 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: MORE QUANTUM PHYSICS
A demagogue is not necessarily misleading.
A demagogue is one that speaks in favor of the crowd's own existing beliefs and tendencies to gain the crowd!s political support. He may or may not be misleading.
Am I wrong Sophie, dear? |
Yes Alpha mou, you are right. A demagogue is exactly that.
What I mentioned in my post, was the negative meaning that this word had in ancient times.
Now, if you're asking me, I still have a negative opinion about these people. They are always misleading us, using words that we wanna hear and promising things that from the beginning they know that are impossible to happen.
And we, silly crowd, we are following them, hoping for a better future each time.
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