Turkey |
|
|
|
SECRETS OF A “CHRISTIAN” STATE
|
1. |
18 May 2013 Sat 11:11 am |
The following is the last part of the preface of a book I thought I mentioned here. The shortened version of the book available for download: here
I am not Azerbaijani, Georgian, Turk; I am not Armenian. I am a Scottish-American, whose first Scottish ancestor came to America in 1686. I am a Southerner, a lifelong Baptist, and an American taxpayer. I have written this book under the light of extensive research in locations such as Washington, D.C., Rome, Paris, London, Moscow, and Istanbul. It would have been helpful to research in Armenia but their archives are not open to the public. The archives in Istanbul, Turkey, are very much open, however, and have been for some time. The irony is that the files in Armenia´s capital of Erevan and Armenian Revolutionary Federation offices in Boston are still closed to researchers and the public. What are they hiding? Why does Armenia have an Armenian Revolutionary Federation office in the United States? …Hubert Hoover directed the U.S. effort to help rebuild Europe after World War I. He experienced only one failure and that was the dictator-run state of Armenia. This future American president stated that Armenian corruption “would be the greatest scandal in American charitable history”. The Armenians responded by attacking his character. Readers of this book will discover from the words of today´s Armenians that this attitude of ingratitude continues.
The proof will be that the Armenian attitude is that American citizens owe their tax dollars to Armenia. There are several U.S. citizens, who have researched Armenia and published their findings. Each of them has been subjected to Armenian campaigns of terror. Consider but a few such individuals: • Professor Stanford Shaw of UCLA. Armenians bombed his home and terrorized him in several different ways. • Professor Heath Lowry of Princeton University was recently forced out as chairman of a Near Eastern studies program because of a two-year hate and smear campaign directed against him. • Professor Justin McCarthy of the University of Louisville has been subjected to all manner of character attacks and attempts to have him removed from his teaching position. • Film maker Robin Williams recently produced a documentary film titled The Biblical Treasures of Turkey. Several times when he attempted to show his film, young Armenians disrupted the showings. On one occasion, Armenian youth invaded the theater by throwing stink bombs and forcing the evacuation of the audience. Once the announcement was made that this book was to be published I experienced a vicious attack directed by the Armenian Assembly of America. Consider the following examples of threats upon my life. I take such threats seriously because in recent years Armenians have murdered some seventy people around the world, four here in the United States. • “I just wanted to tell you that you will burn in hell for putting down the first Christian nation. I will make sure to show up to your funeral, hopefully soon, and piss on your pathetic corpse.”
• “U deserve to die a beast. Some Armenian is gonna kill u some day. And ur not gonna like the Armenian wrath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” • “Armenians are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Turkish. I myself do have very close Turkish friends and I love them with all my heart. I don´t think it is right to say hateful and bad things against all Armenians. I have nothing against Turks and I think the Turks have made wonderful contributions to the world through their culture. I am a Christian, although I am not traditional Armenian Orthodox.” I ask every reader of this book to examine the words I have written with an open mind. I ask every reader to check out the facts I have presented for themselves to determine if the material I have presented is true. The reader will note that I use more Armenian sources and proof than from all other sources combined. Once the reader determines truth it will be for that individual to determine what additional action he or she should do to right a great wrong done to the Muslim world in the name of Jesus Christ. – Samuel A. Weems, member of Calvary Baptist Church, Hazen, Arkansas, April 2, 2002
|
|
2. |
18 May 2013 Sat 11:05 pm |
This article is trying to defame a nation and it happens to be Armenians.
But I dont understand why this article should make any sensible Turk happy? do we need Armenians to be defamed for any reason?
|
|
3. |
19 May 2013 Sun 09:56 am |
Armenians are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Turkish.
Quoted from the first post.
|
|
4. |
19 May 2013 Sun 11:23 am |
Armenians are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Turkish.
Quoted from the first post.
Just change the words from Armenians to Turks and Turkish to Armenians you will see how one sided, wrong and bigoted view it is.:
Turks are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Armenians.
There are very many people out there would say very similar things to for Turks and we are spending some fair amount of time, trying to explain we are not like that.
We dont need defaming a nation to feel proud and right. Everybody should be against of any stereo typing, specially Turks. Because we have been suffered from this type of defaming and stereo typing alot.
|
|
5. |
19 May 2013 Sun 11:40 am |
Turks are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Armenians??
That´s plain wrong. I have never been taught hate about any nation (let alone Armenians). It´s really surpsing to see a comment like this from someone who repeteadly says "as a Turk" here.
But the other statement is indeed true. Anyone who claims the following not to be true should have no idea what he´s talking about.
Armenians are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Turks!
|
|
6. |
19 May 2013 Sun 01:00 pm |
Turks are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Armenians??
That´s plain wrong. I have never been taught hate about any nation (let alone Armenians). It´s really surpsing to see a comment like this from someone who repeteadly says "as a Turk" here.
But the other statement is indeed true. Anyone who claims the following not to be true should have no idea what he´s talking about.
Armenians are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Turks!
I think you forgot add the first sentence :
Just change the words from Armenians to Turks and Turkish to Armenians you will see how one sided, wrong and bigoted view it is.:
Turks are taught hate from birth and I know it is extremely wrong that it has been aimed at the Armenians??
See how bothering and how racist it is. is it not?
So when racism is and defaming is done towards others especially towards Armenians it is Right . Yes?
|
|
7. |
19 May 2013 Sun 02:07 pm |
You are such a waste of time for me.
You keep playing with words. Are you saying "Turks are taught hate from birth"? Aimed at whom? You can´t be serious, right?
And are you rejecting the statement "Armenians are taught hate from birth"? You can´t be that blind, right?
|
|
8. |
19 May 2013 Sun 02:14 pm |
You are such a waste of time for me.
You keep playing with words. Are you saying "Turks are taught hate from birth"? Aimed at whom? You can´t be serious, right?
And are you rejecting the statement "Armenians are taught hate from birth"? You can´t be that blind, right?
I dont think I am playing anything at all.
You dont get what I am trying to say? You seriously believe that Armenians are full of hatred because they are taught from birth ? And you dont hate Armenians at all?
And yes I am rejecting that RACIST and DEFAMING STATEMENT.
You can not be serious.. right?
|
|
9. |
19 May 2013 Sun 02:46 pm |
I dont think I am playing anything at all. Yes you are!
You dont get what I am trying to say? Oh I do, I really do! You seriously believe that Armenians are full of hatred because they are taught from birth ? Oh yes I do, definetly! And you dont hate Armenians at all? No not at all, but when I run into a person full of hatred to me just because I am Turkish, I would hate it. And that´s the case. Armenians are full of hatred and they are taught from birth. I don´t expect you admit it but that´s the case.
And yes I am rejecting that RACIST and DEFAMING STATEMENT. But it´s true and you know that.
You can not be serious.. right? I´m serious, really!
Why is an American more close to that statement than a person who repeatedly claims to be "a Turk" here? Why does that one jump into this discussion to defend Armenians as always he did in the past? What makes him disturbed?
Armenians are taught to hate Turks from birth. That´s what it is!
|
|
10. |
19 May 2013 Sun 03:11 pm |
Why is an American more close to that statement than a person who repeatedly claims to be "a Turk" here? Why does that one jump into this discussion to defend Armenians as always he did in the past? What makes him disturbed?
Armenians are taught to hate Turks from birth. That´s what it is!
I think you are digging a grave yourself and with each statement, you are digging deeper.
I will never be close to be any racism for sure. That statement which was made by an american against whole Armenians is a RACIST statement. Very similar to the statements I hear in EU against the Turks/Pakistanis/muslims etc. Remember Midnight express? Remember how that guy called all Turks something? Remember how racist it was? This is very similar to that.
When you hear these type of statement you DO NOT ARGUE IF IT IS TRUE OR NOT, only civilized answer will be is ´that is a racist statement´. That is the bottom line.
I dont think I am playing anything at all. Yes you are! "I think you dont get it.. But you dont get these things easily anyway!!
You dont get what I am trying to say? Oh I do, I really do! You seriously believe that Armenians are full of hatred because they are taught from birth ? Oh yes I do, definetly! (I refuse to believe an entire nation can be full of hatred. Anybody who say you turks are full of hatred, I will call that person as racist.) And you dont hate Armenians at all? No not at all, but when I run into a person full of hatred to me just because I am Turkish, I would hate it. And that´s the case. Armenians are full of hatred and they are taught from birth. I don´t expect you admit it but that´s the case. (you have some serious problems there!!)
And yes I am rejecting that RACIST and DEFAMING STATEMENT. But it´s true and you know that. (No..Racist statements are NOT true. They are mostly from illogical people with LOW IQ. )
You can not be serious.. right? I´m serious, really! (THAT is what I suspect and that is the reason you are digging a deeper grave for yourself)
|
|
11. |
19 May 2013 Sun 03:25 pm |
Typical hansom!
Once more we have seen enough clues what is his real identity.
|
|
12. |
20 May 2013 Mon 09:59 am |
I dont think I am playing anything at all.
You dont get what I am trying to say? You seriously believe that Armenians are full of hatred because they are taught from birth ? And you dont hate Armenians at all?
And yes I am rejecting that RACIST and DEFAMING STATEMENT.
You can not be serious.. right?
Just look at their Constitution, and what they teach to their kids in school...all a bunch of hatred lies.
Do not mix Armenian citizens of Turkia and Republic of Armenia in your discussions. No need intentionally fooling the less informed readers of this site.
|
|
13. |
20 May 2013 Mon 10:04 am |
Remember Midnight express? Remember how that guy called all Turks something?
Posted by the RACIST
"Midnight Express" was the product of a pervert racist mind, very much like yours.
Years after the film was made, both the producer and the lead player of the film apologized and admitted their film was a pack of lies, to a world wide TV audience. Dont tell me you never heard of their confession and apology.
|
|
14. |
20 May 2013 Mon 10:52 am |
Remember Midnight express? Remember how that guy called all Turks something?
Posted by the RACIST
"Midnight Express" was the product of a pervert racist mind, very much like yours.
Years after the film was made, both the producer and the lead player of the film apologized and admitted their film was a pack of lies, to a world wide TV audience. Dont tell me you never heard of their confession and apology.
Have you been living in a La La land for all those years, not in Turkey?
You dont know what has been going on in your own jails. do you?
You can not show anything anywhere at anytime which might even come close or suggest to be supporting racism in my posts. BUT everything almost everything you are posting here shows some sort of degree of paranoia, sexizm, homophobia and racism.
The sad thing is everybody is aware of it but YOU.
Coming here and posting personal insult wont change that fact.
Edited (5/20/2013) by thehandsom
|
|
15. |
20 May 2013 Mon 11:02 am |
Have you been living in a La La land for all those years, not in Turkey?
I want to live there.
|
|
16. |
20 May 2013 Mon 11:08 am |
Have you been living in a La La land for all those years, not in Turkey?
You dont know what has been going on in your own jails. do you?
You can not show anything anywhere at anytime which might even come close or suggest to be supporting racism in my posts. BUT everything almost everything you are posting here shows some sort of degree of paranoia, sexizm, homophobia and racism.
The sad thing is everybody is aware of it but YOU.
Coming here and posting personal insult wont change that fact.
That is something else, we are not happy with it and we are trying to improve the situation.
That however does not change the fact that all misleading statements and acts by Armenian racists, including cowardly diplomatic murders and the film MIDNIGHT EXPRESS are racist and total bulshit.
I despise liars and racists. I owe you no respect for your dishonest posts. If you want respect, try to earn it.
Edited (5/20/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
17. |
20 May 2013 Mon 11:28 am |
"MIDNIGT EXPRESS" and BILL HAYES
Imagine a man who claims he was raped in a Turkish jail, and was ready to go around with a "raped man" image......totally on false pretenses, only to defame an innocent nation that captured him red handed trying to smuggle narcotics to poison Western youth. You think he has any honor ?
And imagine those weird Western minds that sided with this filthy clown, forgetting that the Turkish Police was only trying to save American or British kids.
Still, I would say Bill Hayes is a better human being than some of the pseudo-Turks here, beceuse he eventually came clean with his lies.
|
|
18. |
20 May 2013 Mon 11:44 am |
Just look at their Constitution, and what they teach to their kids in school...all a bunch of hatred lies.
Do not mix Armenian citizens of Turkia and Republic of Armenia in your discussions. No need intentionally fooling the less informed readers of this site.
This guy attempts to label everybody as racists here yet he paradoxicallly tries to present them (we should easily call them a racist state by his definitions) as inocents as Angels and Turks guilty of everything.
|
|
19. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:14 pm |
|
|
20. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:16 pm |
This guy attempts to label everybody as racists here yet he paradoxicallly tries to present them (we should easily call them a racist state by his definitions) as inocents as Angels and Turks guilty of everything.
I am not trying to attempt mate.. I am proving anything I say here..
That is not called attempt. That is called truth telling..
|
|
21. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:20 pm |
I am not trying to attempt mate.. I am proving anything I say here..
That is not called attempt. That is called truth telling..
That is called truth telling..
That is what Bill Hayes said, in the beginning....
|
|
22. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:22 pm |
"MIDNIGT EXPRESS" and BILL HAYES
Imagine a man who claims he was raped in a Turkish jail, and was ready to go around with a "raped man" image......totally on false pretenses, only to defame an innocent nation that captured him red handed trying to smuggle narcotics to poison Western youth. You think he has any honor ?
And imagine those weird Western minds that sided with this filthy clown, forgetting that the Turkish Police was only trying to save American or British kids.
Still, I would say Bill Hayes is a better human being than some of the pseudo-Turks here, beceuse he eventually came clean with his lies.
Well yes.. People get raped in jails.. All over the world.. Including Turkey.. Just look at the news read them. Read what happened in Pozanti. You dont need to go many years back. The reports are from this year!! because you dont know them does NOT mean people will ignore them.
Go and watch the movie Duvar!! and read about the news instead of caressing homophobia.
|
|
23. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:24 pm |
Ha ha..
I am a fraid there is no place called La La land. It is an imaginary place only a few bigoted people live in their imaginary world..
|
|
24. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:31 pm |
That is something else, we are not happy with it and we are trying to improve the situation.
That however does not change the fact that all misleading statements and acts by Armenian racists, including cowardly diplomatic murders and the film MIDNIGHT EXPRESS are racist and total bulshit.
I despise liars and racists. I owe you no respect for your dishonest posts. If you want respect, try to earn it.
You are not trying to improve anything.
In fact I can clearly say that because of YOU and you like people, these horrible acts are going on. YOU are indirectly trying to block these horrible inhumane thing commited by the rapists and tortureres, being in public. Stop feeilng yourself elevated . I have never asked respect from you and I never will. In fact, I dont think anybody will ask for it. As far as the racists, I dont think it matters if they are Armenians or Turks or german nazis.. They are all the same..
|
|
25. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:31 pm |
+1
|
|
26. |
20 May 2013 Mon 12:34 pm |
Well yes.. People get raped in jails.. All over the world.. Including Turkey.. Just look at the news read them. Read what happened in Pozanti. You dont need to go many years back. The reports are from this year!! because you dont know them does NOT mean people will ignore them.
Go and watch the movie Duvar!! and read about the news instead of caressing homophobia.
Correct... Very honorable persons may get raped inside or outside jails; such unfortunately is the situation that has not been resolved yet. When such a misfortune hits an otherwise honorable person, he/she loses none of his honor.
Bill Hayes lost his honor not because he was raped, but because he played a "raped man"
for money and political ends....on false pretenses.
|
|
27. |
20 May 2013 Mon 01:00 pm |
Correct... Very honorable persons may get raped inside or outside jails; such unfortunately is the situation that has not been resolved yet. When such a misfortune hits an otherwise honorable person, he/she loses none of his honor.
Bill Hayes lost his honor not because he was raped, but because he played a "raped man"
for money and political ends....on false pretenses.
I dont think you understand what you ARE TRYING TO HIDE HERE!!
I dont care about Bill Hayes.. It is in YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THESE THINGS..
Sit down and ask yourselves: By trying to hide these things who you are helping?
We know the answer.. dont we?
That was not the point anyway. The point was the article Si++ posted and how racist that article was.
And it still is. People should be aware of this type of racism.
|
|
28. |
20 May 2013 Mon 01:15 pm |
You are not trying to improve anything.
In fact I can clearly say that because of YOU and you like people, these horrible acts are going on. YOU are indirectly trying to block these horrible inhumane thing commited by the rapists and tortureres, being in public. Stop feeilng yourself elevated . I have never asked respect from you and I never will. In fact, I dont think anybody will ask for it. As far as the racists, I dont think it matters if they are Armenians or Turks or german nazis.. They are all the same..
How can you be that sure ?
Have you been in a Turkish jail in recent years ?
|
|
29. |
20 May 2013 Mon 01:24 pm |
If you make peace one another, I will buy you icecream
|
|
30. |
20 May 2013 Mon 02:08 pm |
We know the answer.. dont we?
posted by the racist
No, we dont know the answer....want to tell us ?
|
|
31. |
20 May 2013 Mon 02:13 pm |
I dont care about Bill Hayes.. It is in YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THESE THINGS..
Posted by the racist
So it is my country now...no longer your country too ?
Things look much brighter now. At least, we got rid of one "sincere Turk"
|
|
32. |
20 May 2013 Mon 02:36 pm |
If you make peace one another, I will buy you icecream
"Yeşil Bektaşi Üzümü" dondurması bulabilirmisin ?
|
|
33. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:03 pm |
How can you be that sure ?
Have you been in a Turkish jail in recent years ?
See I am telling you..You do NOT know because you dont read..
There have been many reports recently. Main opposition party have been investigating all these and publishing them..
But someone who wants to have some knowledge should read them first..
|
|
34. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:08 pm |
We know the answer.. dont we?
posted by the racist
No, we dont know the answer....want to tell us ?
a- By repeating ´posted by a racist´ wont make me a racist and you very well know that. Because not a single thing I posted here might event suggest that it is promoting racism. BUT YOU, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE LINE YOU POST "screams" what you are.. I have a feeling that you know it yourself too..
b- you dont know the answer? can not even guess the answer?
(we have to call the ghost of Aziz Nesin here )
|
|
35. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:16 pm |
SINCERE TURKS, watching the busy Turkish fishermen at work:
Edited (5/20/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
36. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:16 pm |
I dont care about Bill Hayes.. It is in YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THESE THINGS..
Posted by the racist
So it is my country now...no longer your country too ?
Things look much brighter now. At least, we got rid of one "sincere Turk"
He he..
Dont feel so happy about it.. In fact you question yourself why the prospect of people like me leaving Turkey makes you happy as well as any racist comments trying to defa a nation.
Basically, Bottom of the line..: Racism has to go.. You might have got away with it so far in Turkey and people treated you lot as normal. BUT NOT anymore. Because you are embaressing us.
Racism has to go. You have to find other ways of expressing yourself without the help of racisms.
|
|
37. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:25 pm |
Look, if you believe there was a good reason for you to leave Turkia, there was a bloody better reason why some ethnic groups got a punishment at certain points in history.....not all minorities were constantly punished.
You are doing better, without "me, as a sincere Turk" crap. We might just start agreeing on some points now.
Edited (5/20/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
38. |
20 May 2013 Mon 03:48 pm |
Look, if you believe there was a good reason for you to leave Turkia, there was a bloody better reason why some ethnic groups got a punishment at certain points in history.....not all minorities were constantly punished.
You are doing better, without "me, as a sincere Turk" crap. We might just start agreeing on some points now.
We are not talking about minorities etc here.. The argument and the conclusion is very simple:
"Racism has to go. You have to find other ways of expressing yourself without the help of racisms. " Becuase it is very embrassing for us.
|
|
39. |
20 May 2013 Mon 04:03 pm |
"Yeşil Bektaşi Üzümü" dondurması bulabilirmisin ?
Olmaz mı? Ticaretini yapıyorum
|
|
40. |
20 May 2013 Mon 04:11 pm |
If you had the brains, you would see and understand Turkia has more than endless possibilities to express herself. Who needs racism ?
Politics, economy, history, tourism, football, you name it !; even Banu Alkan is with us !
The fish look good from your side, no?
Edited (5/20/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
41. |
20 May 2013 Mon 04:13 pm |
Olmaz mı? Ticaretini yapıyorum
Yeşil Bektaşi Üzümü (Green Gooseberry)
Edited (5/20/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
42. |
20 May 2013 Mon 05:24 pm |
If you had the brains, you would see and understand Turkia has more than endless possibilities to express herself. Who needs racism ?
Politics, economy, history, tourism, football, you name it !; even Banu Alkan is with us !
The fish look good from your side, no?
I think you still do not get it:
No to racism. Not anymore. That is the bottom line. It is really and truly embaressing.. You might think it is too late for you, but you got to learn how to express yourself without using racism. There is a life without utilising racism or without belittling/blackening other nations (or without being misogynist or without being homophobic). Seriously..
Be an example to the people like Si++.. Come on..That is what we are expecting from you..
|
|
43. |
20 May 2013 Mon 06:08 pm |
I think you still do not get it:
No to racism. Not anymore. That is the bottom line. It is really and truly embaressing.. You might think it is too late for you, but you got to learn how to express yourself without using racism. There is a life without utilising racism or without belittling/blackening other nations (or without being misogynist or without being homophobic). Seriously..
Be an example to the people like Si++.. Come on..That is what we are expecting from you..
We have nothing to do with racism.
Racism is your problem...You are blinded by your hatred......Go suck an egg !
|
|
44. |
20 May 2013 Mon 10:08 pm |
We have nothing to do with racism.
Racism is your problem...You are blinded by your hatred......Go suck an egg !
Of course you don´t.. Never what so ever!!
As long as you dont act like one and are an example for the people like yourself and si++ , we wont have any problem..
|
|
45. |
25 Oct 2013 Fri 03:32 pm |
For over two decades, Azerbaijan and Armenia have been locked in conflict which emerged over Armenia´s territorial claims against its South Caucasus neighbor. Since a war in the early 1990s, Armenian armed forces have occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan´s territory, including Nagorno-Karabakh and seven surrounding regions. A fragile ceasefire has been in place since 1994, but long-standing efforts by US, Russian and French mediators have been largely fruitless so far. Armenia has not yet implemented the U.N. Security Council´s four resolutions on its pullout from the neighboring country´s territories.
Source: here
|
|
46. |
25 Oct 2013 Fri 05:04 pm |
Remember Midnight express? Remember how that guy called all Turks something? Remember how racist it was? This is very similar to that.
He later publicly apologized on TV, and admitted his whole story was a lie. How about that?
|
|
47. |
26 Oct 2013 Sat 01:57 am |
This article is trying to defame a nation and it happens to be Armenians.
But I dont understand why this article should make any sensible Turk happy? do we need Armenians to be defamed for any reason?
oh when you guys post some anti-turkish crap its democratic, non-fascist, completely free thinking, but when there some armenian criticism its "defaming a nation uuu"
get real
|
|
48. |
26 Oct 2013 Sat 11:07 am |
Remember Midnight express? Remember how that guy called all Turks something? Remember how racist it was? This is very similar to that.
He later publicly apologized on TV, and admitted his whole story was a lie. How about that?
Yes.
Remember the guy who earlier said something like this?
"This article is trying to defame a nation and it happens to be Armenians."
Now if we adjust his statement:
"That movie is trying to defame a nation and it happens to be Turks."
|
|
49. |
26 Oct 2013 Sat 11:39 am |
oh when you guys post some anti-turkish crap its democratic, non-fascist, completely free thinking, but when there some armenian criticism its "defaming a nation uuu"
get real
I think it is very basic here : ´Defaming Armenians /or Greeks or/Kurds etc are anti-Turkish, racist and sheer hate crime´.That should not make any Turk happy. If you feel happy about racist crap because it is done against Armenian(or Greeks/Kurds etc) you should check your grounds and rethink why it makes you happy.
Our problem is with ´racism in general´. Weather it is racism in Turkey or Germany or Armenia. Because a Turkish racist is not a better person than a german racist or an armenian racist. They all commit hate crimes. Infact, hate crime or racism should not be tolerated. Not anymore!
|
|
50. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 11:50 am |
I will be happy to pay this tshirt -including postage- for some of us.
Please pm me your address
|
|
51. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 01:59 pm |
A BOOK - " ARMENIA - SECRETS OF A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST STATE" by Samuel Weems
Sam Weems was a Christian American.
He was a lawyer.
He married a Turkish lady.
He was naturally interested in everything to do with Turks, including their problems with Armenia.
His own research indicated that Armenia´s account of history was a "tall tale".. He decided to write a book on this subject.
From that point on, life took a funny turn for Sam Weems.
- he was tried on some petty charges and was eventually disbarred.
- he was accused of arson and tried in courts (not sure if he was convicted)
It was as if an organişzed campaign was on, to discredit his character and to destroy his life.
He eventually had hisd book in print in 2002. He died shortly afterwards.
Guess where Racism is, in this short story?
Edited (10/28/2013) by AlphaF
Edited (10/28/2013) by AlphaF
Edited (10/28/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
52. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 02:14 pm |
I will be happy to pay this tshirt -including postage- for some of us.
Please pm me your address
Send us Sam´s book instead " ARMENIA - Secrets of a Christian Terrorist State"
|
|
53. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 03:10 pm |
I will be happy to pay this tshirt -including postage- for some of us.
Please pm me your address
0.46%,
Do not pollute this thread with your crap!
|
|
54. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 08:17 pm |
I think it is very basic here : ´Defaming Armenians /or Greeks or/Kurds etc are anti-Turkish, racist and sheer hate crime´.That should not make any Turk happy. If you feel happy about racist crap because it is done against Armenian(or Greeks/Kurds etc) you should check your grounds and rethink why it makes you happy.
Our problem is with ´racism in general´. Weather it is racism in Turkey or Germany or Armenia. Because a Turkish racist is not a better person than a german racist or an armenian racist. They all commit hate crimes. Infact, hate crime or racism should not be tolerated. Not anymore!
racism in general? lol. for you people racism is a trait that can only be adhered to turkish. ive never seen any other international racist issues pressed here other than what "intellectuals" define as "taming the turkish"
remember people blame others for what they do themselves most. i think behind the "racism" offensive here lies the self hatred of your own country.
Edited (10/28/2013) by burakk
|
|
55. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 08:37 pm |
racism in general? lol. for you people racism is a trait that can only be adhered to turkish. ive never seen any other international racist issues pressed here other than what "intellectuals" define as "taming the turkish"
remember people blame others for what they do themselves most. i think behind the "racism" offensive here lies the self hatred of your own country.
I agree
Edited (10/28/2013) by Kelowna
|
|
56. |
28 Oct 2013 Mon 11:02 pm |
racism in general? lol. for you people racism is a trait that can only be adhered to turkish. ive never seen any other international racist issues pressed here other than what "intellectuals" define as "taming the turkish"
remember people blame others for what they do themselves most. i think behind the "racism" offensive here lies the self hatred of your own country.
Dont worry, in our daily lives, we have been dealing with many racists here in the EU. But most of them are rarely as low level as we see here like ´calling a Turk with an Armenian name and think it is an insult´. I can clearly tell you that racism is not adhered to Turks only ( I mentioned almost in my every single post). But also please let me change your words a bit: If you call it taming, it is not taming Turkish, it is taming some racists happened to be Turks. I think you are simply very wrong about hatred of my own country. You should not say the things you can not prove.. Lol
|
|
57. |
29 Oct 2013 Tue 12:51 pm |
Dont worry, in our daily lives, we have been dealing with many racists here in the EU. But most of them are rarely as low level as we see here like ´calling a Turk with an Armenian name and think it is an insult´. I can clearly tell you that racism is not adhered to Turks only ( I mentioned almost in my every single post). But also please let me change your words a bit: If you call it taming, it is not taming Turkish, it is taming some racists happened to be Turks. I think you are simply very wrong about hatred of my own country. You should not say the things you can not prove.. Lol
man eu harbors worlds the largest racist communities. besides racism as a concept was invented there. dont talk, you sink even more
|
|
58. |
29 Oct 2013 Tue 01:11 pm |
man eu harbors worlds the largest racist communities. besides racism as a concept was invented there. dont talk, you sink even more
Of course, we dont have racists in Turkey.. In fact we never had and we never will..
This is the video of the FB supporter vawing a banana to black players and then his defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrAc0SwbKAQ
Of course he says exactly the same thing you say: I am not a racist. We dont have racists in Turkey!!
Drogba´s answer: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKIbmGcCAAAUDuN.jpg
Colour and address please
|
|
59. |
29 Oct 2013 Tue 01:16 pm |
where did i say we dont have racists in turkey? straw man argument lol
and how the hell can you compare a guy shaking a banana to a fundementally racist bosnian massacre done by serbs? seriously man, if you are so anti racist why are you defending racists who have killed turks and Muslims?
Edited (10/29/2013) by burakk
|
|
60. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 08:44 am |
Other members finally saw through Agop " the real Türk" too.
|
|
61. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 10:06 am |
Other members finally saw through Agop " the real Türk" too.
Got caught waving banana?
Pick your color please.. Purple?
|
|
62. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 10:37 am |
Yakalananın kim olduğunu anladın sen Agop...
Muzu bırak da, salyangozu kaç paradan satıyorsun ?
Edited (10/30/2013) by AlphaF
|
|
63. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 11:50 am |
Yakalananın kim olduğunu anladın sen Agop...
Muzu bırak da, salyangozu kaç paradan stıyorsun ?
First stage of the cure seems to be working : You have LOST the ability to think/write your racist crap in English..
Second stage will start promptly.
|
|
64. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 01:21 pm |
A BOOK - " ARMENIA - SECRETS OF A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST STATE" by Samuel Weems
Sam Weems was a Christian American.
He was a lawyer.
He married a Turkish lady.
He was naturally interested in everything to do with Turks, including their problems with Armenia.
His own research indicated that Armenia´s account of history was a "tall tale".. He decided to write a book on this subject.
From that point on, life took a funny turn for Sam Weems.
- he was tried on some petty charges and was eventually disbarred.
- he was accused of arson and tried in courts (not sure if he was convicted)
It was as if an organişzed campaign was on, to discredit his character and to destroy his life.
He eventually had hisd book in print in 2002. He died shortly afterwards.
Guess where Racism is, in this short story?
Agop you disappoint me !
As an expert on racism, you should have figured the racism in the life of Mr.Weems immediately.
Your brain stopped or what ?
|
|
65. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 01:35 pm |
Agop you disappoint me !
As an expert on racism, you should have figured the racism in the life of Mr.Weems immediately.
Your brain stopped or what ?
That is good.. You are responding . That is a good thing! .. I am sure you will explain why you are calling a Turk you dont like with an Armenian name..
Will you tell us why?
|
|
66. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 03:44 pm |
That is good.. You are responding . That is a good thing! .. I am sure you will explain why you are calling a Turk you dont like with an Armenian name..
Will you tell us why?
Dont be a racist Agop....What is wrong with Armenian names ?
|
|
67. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 04:07 pm |
Dont be a racist Agop....What is wrong with Armenian names ?
... Dont escape from it. Come on.. tell us!! It is YOU have to answer that question
The question is very very simple:
Why are you calling a Turk you simply DO NOT LIKE WITH AN ARMENIAN NAME?
ps..Do you seriously beleive that your behaviour is NOT same as the ones who waves bananas to black players? or less racist?
|
|
68. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 04:28 pm |
Why not? You have anything against Armenian names ?
|
|
69. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 04:46 pm |
Why not? You have anything against Armenian names ?
Dont get upset and answer that very simple question:
Why are you calling a Turk you simply DO NOT LIKE WITH AN ARMENIAN NAME?
Eh?
|
|
70. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 05:07 pm |
Dont get upset and answer that very simple question:
Why are you calling a Turk you simply DO NOT LIKE WITH AN ARMENIAN NAME?
Eh?
0.46%,
What´s wrong with it? I call one of my close friends as Corc (George) simply because he admires anything American (movies, books, TV serials).
And you are acting (and sounding) an Armenian here. Hence the name.
Besides you always tell you are a Turk but you not sounding one to me.
For example I have doubts that your native language is Turkish. I regularly wath grammar section and I never saw you give any explaination about Turkish grammar (contrary to the other Turks who always try to help foreigners for their questions). Probably because you don´t have a good knowledge of Turkish. If you were to do it, I could easily spot any mistake you might do.
|
|
71. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 05:27 pm |
0.46%,
What´s wrong with it? I call one of my close friends as Corc (George) simply because he admires anything American (movies, books, TV serials).
And you are acting (and sounding) an Armenian here. Hence the name.
Besides you always tell you are a Turk but you not sounding one to me.
For example I have doubts that your native language is Turkish. I regularly wath grammar section and I never saw you give any explaination about Turkish grammar (contrary to the other Turks who always try to help foreigners for their questions). Probably because you don´t have a good knowledge of Turkish. If you were to do it, I could easily spot any mistake you might do.
He he
The real owner of racist comment is here
Calling a Turk with and ARMENIAN NAME IN THE CONTEXT you use is AS RACIST As getting caught on the camera by waving a banana to black players or calling whites as negro when you are angry with that person in the context of racism.
Your explanation is more pathetic than the guy who caught on the camera waving a banana :" he was hungry, happens to hold a banana to eat "
You prefer the red or purple colour in your tshirt selection?
|
|
72. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 05:33 pm |
He he
The real owner of racist comment is here
Calling a Turk with and ARMENIAN NAME IN THE CONTEXT you use is AS RACIST As getting caught on the camera by waving a banana to black players or calling whites as negro when you are angry with that person in the context of racism.
Your explanation is more pathetic than the guy who caught on the camera waving a banana :" he was hungry, happens to hold a banana to eat "
You prefer the red or purple colour in your tshirt selection?
perhaps he called you ARGO because his use of english was not good enough to know the this list:
artless base-court apple-john bawdy bat-fowling baggage beslubbering beef-witted barnacle bootless beetle-headed bladder churlish boil-brained boar-pig cockered clapper-clawed bugbear clouted clay-brained bum-bailey craven common-kissing canker-blossom currish crook-pated clack-dish dankish dismal-dreaming clotpole dissembling dizzy-eyed coxcomb droning doghearted codpiece errant dread-bolted death-token fawning earth-vexing dewberry fobbing elf-skinned flap-dragon froward fat-kidneyed flax-wench frothy fen-sucked flirt-gill gleeking flap-mouthed foot-licker goatish fly-bitten fustilarian gorbellied folly-fallen giglet impertinent fool-born gudgeon infectious full-gorged haggard jarring guts-griping harpy loggerheaded half-faced hedge-pig lumpish hasty-witted horn-beast mammering hedge-born hugger-mugger mangled hell-hated joithead mewling idle-headed lewdster paunchy ill-breeding lout pribbling ill-nurtured maggot-pie
or simply just use: You insignificant piece of diminuation, how dare you insinuate that I will tolerate your diobolicle insults? Through the process of the ultimate deduction I have come to the unquesitonable conclusion that the spermatic germ of insanity has reached the upper epidemic of your cerebellum.
Edited (10/30/2013) by Kelowna
[Son of a tree toad I forgot a few]
|
|
73. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 05:43 pm |
Neither 0.45 nor 0.47, 0.46% exactly!
|
|
74. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 05:49 pm |
perhaps he called you ARGO because his use of english was not good enough
Well he did not say that in English it was in Turkish. So he knew very well what he was saying. What he did not realize that racism is a no go area in a civilized society.
Infact, we have many racist comments like that. Some of them simply swearing of Armenians or Greeks etc. Their origins and motives are the the exactly the same as tge guys who waves bananas to Drogba:
Same low level, same racism.
|
|
75. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 06:06 pm |
A BOOK - " ARMENIA - SECRETS OF A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST STATE" by Samuel Weems
Sam Weems was a Christian American.
He was a lawyer.
He married a Turkish lady.
He was naturally interested in everything to do with Turks, including their problems with Armenia.
His own research indicated that Armenia´s account of history was a "tall tale".. He decided to write a book on this subject.
From that point on, life took a funny turn for Sam Weems.
- he was tried on some petty charges and was eventually disbarred.
- he was accused of arson and tried in courts (not sure if he was convicted)
It was as if an organişzed campaign was on, to discredit his character and to destroy his life.
He eventually had hisd book in print in 2002. He died shortly afterwards.
Guess where Racism is, in this short story?
0.46%,
No comment from you about the racist behaviours mentioned above of Armenians. How come?
|
|
76. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 06:13 pm |
I think people who have signed into this web-site [for the purpose of learning Turkish] has had enough of seeing this stupid argument about racism on the front page.
|
|
77. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 06:19 pm |
I think people who have signed into this web-site [for the purpose of learning Turkish] has had enough of seeing this stupid argument about racism on the front page.
How true!
I deeply regret being some part of it.
|
|
78. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 06:46 pm |
I think people who have signed into this web-site [for the purpose of learning Turkish] has had enough of seeing this stupid argument about racism on the front page.
I completely agree, however, if we all close our eyes to the racism NOW, these racists will do it again.
Some people should stand up against these things.. If there were not brave anti-racist Americans, some still be burning blacks in the States.
|
|
79. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 07:41 pm |
I completely agree, however, if we all close our eyes to the racism NOW, these racists will do it again.
Some people should stand up against these things.. If there were not brave anti-racist Americans, some still be burning blacks in the States.
Do you mean something like this?
His own research indicated that Armenia´s account of history was a "tall tale".. He decided to write a book on this subject.
From that point on, life took a funny turn for Sam Weems.
- he was tried on some petty charges and was eventually disbarred.
- he was accused of arson and tried in courts (not sure if he was convicted)
It was as if an organişzed campaign was on, to discredit his character and to destroy his life.
He eventually had his book in print in 2002. He died shortly afterwards.
|
|
80. |
30 Oct 2013 Wed 08:37 pm |
I completely agree, however, if we all close our eyes to the racism NOW, these racists will do it again.
Some people should stand up against these things.. If there were not brave anti-racist Americans, some still be burning blacks in the States.
i thought it was the turkish people that were being burned in germany. englihten me on the "again* part of your comment.
|
|
81. |
31 Oct 2013 Thu 09:07 am |
I think people who have signed into this web-site [for the purpose of learning Turkish] has had enough of seeing this stupid argument about racism on the front page.
Seek stupidity in your own posts.
Ask your mother to buy your shoes in pairs, so you have a shoe on each foot...
|
|
83. |
01 Nov 2013 Fri 10:07 am |
Do you mean something like this?
His own research indicated that Armenia´s account of history was a "tall tale".. He decided to write a book on this subject.
From that point on, life took a funny turn for Sam Weems.
- he was tried on some petty charges and was eventually disbarred.
- he was accused of arson and tried in courts (not sure if he was convicted)
It was as if an organişzed campaign was on, to discredit his character and to destroy his life.
He eventually had his book in print in 2002. He died shortly afterwards.
Houston, we have a problem here. The communication is broken. The message has not reached to its destination. So far no ackowledgement has been received.
|
|
|