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1.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 07:10 am

why ppl kill themselves?
just coz of character weakness of there is no was to be succesful????

2.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 07:10 am

commit-suicide...

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 07:29 am

Jesus... Duskahvesi, you ask questions which take hundreds of books and lots of research to answer. People commit suicide for many different reasons, I even heard of someone thinking of doing this because he was curious about what happens when he dies and if there is an afterlife!

4.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 07:41 am

really?
what do they expect after dying?

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 07:58 am

heheh... they don't expect anything, they are just curious , isn't it interesting?

6.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 08:00 am

too much
hehe
they can see smth

7.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 10:44 pm

i really wonder this subject...

8.       sjm0698
53 posts
 05 Oct 2005 Wed 11:10 pm

Duskahvesi
My theory on this subject is neither a charater weakness, or that there is no way to be successful. When someone decides to kill themselves they mentally have come to the worst point possible, you may not understand if you have never felt depressed or severe anxiety over something. But, they feel there is no other way out, no way to make themselves happy or to feel better inside. They may feel that they are bringing pain to the ones they love, and they would be better off without them. Or, on the other end they may feel that they have nobody to love or who love them.
Sarah

9.       erdinc
2151 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 12:35 am

I think the idea grows inside you without you realising it first. At the beginning the person will ignore the idea and pretend it isnt existing. But with time the idea becomes stronger and stronger and takes control over you.
Even the most health looking people can commit suicide if this thought is hidden somewhere in the subconsciousness. It can be also hereditary.

An important detail is that a person just a short time before, possibly a few days ago, will talk about committing suicide to friends or relatives. The person will not tell you clearly what he or she is going to do but tell you enough to make you suspicious.

This is a way of asking for help. So you need to be aware at the time when you hear this from someone.

But it is perfectly all right for arabesk lovers to talk about this issue. This doesnt mean anything. They might say things like "I'm gonna kill myself if you leave me". But they will end up being drunk.

10.       kelley
131 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 01:30 am

Merhaba/Selam Classy Classmates

sjm0698 & erdinc your replies I agree with

completely but sometimes these people are affected


by other situations one being medication I have heard

of a younglady who had taken and was perscribed an

Anti-ddepressent and committed suicide and I have

heard of others as well. It is so sad.


:-S duskahvesi for a interesting

but sad topic.


Peace & Love to all
Tsarevna Stacia

Kelley

11.       Lyndie
968 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 01:31 am

Well - I have something to say on this subject. Of course I would do wouldn't I?

dusk...you are quite wrong! Severe depression can drive a person to suicide. This can be psychological or psychiatric. The psychological kind of depression is when a person (as Sarah said) is so miserable and anxious about something their life becomes intolerable. These people can be helped by counselling and help to solve the big problems that caused thier depression.

Psychiatric (clinical) depression is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain and because of this the chemicals that we all have in us that make us feel happy are missing in these people. I can speak with some authority on this subject because by daughter in law has this kind of problem and she tried to commit suicide 3 times before the doctors discovered what was wrong with her, now she gets medication adn she is fine.

also in my job I have to deal with people who feel like suicide (for different reasons) - it is not about character weakness at all, but people who feel absolutely desperate for one reason or another and feel that the only escape from their pain and misery is to die.

Erdinc you said that suicidal tendencies can be hereditary - this is correct in 2 ways. In the first way the type of clinical depression (with the chemical imbalance) can be hereditary, but not always.
the other way, the psychological way is not exactly hereditary but may seem like it. If a person has say a parent who kills themself, this has a very serious effect on the child of that person. This can cause pyschological depression and that person then starts to think about killing themself because a parents behaviour is a very powerful thing for a child to copy - these are very simple explanations because as catwoman has said - you ask the kind of question that has had a million books written about it. But once again Bravo for thinking up good questions that get everyone's interest.

12.       kelley
131 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 01:48 am

Merhaba Lyndie!

Thank you for the info and input I agree with

everything you said and I beleive in Medication for

clinical depression. The girl whom I spoke of was given

medication to strong for her which acctually increased her

depression.

Take Care


Byesssssss












13.       Dr.amin
11 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 12:20 am

2 things:
- if one commits suiside he goes straight to hell
- killing oneself does not solve your problems(unless u do it for health insurance money for your fam...)

14.       Lyndie
968 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 01:26 am

Two points here.

1) I think you mean that YOU believe that if you kill yourself you will go straight to hell.

2) If a person kills themself, their insurance is void.

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 04:05 am

Thanks Lynda for straightening this out, I think somebody is confusing things a little.

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