I was given a handwritten note by a woman I see every day begging on an Edinburgh Street - I know her main language is Turkish and believe the note is in turkish - but possibly phonetically spelled.

Can anyone hazard a translation?? To add an additional complication, the writing was hard to decipher in places

Many thanks

 ben bilmiorum engleza ocadar cioc fachirim ciojuclarim erseim onar benimicin benim e?im ioc (?) is tanbulba burda verdilear birapartament oturim ciojullarm (?) veanem  cizim obem miciineresei ve ichi erchieberi ianeciju  arm babam eldu 12 sene evelibenda cioc hastaim 3 ameleat var benim vebun ict (?) chimbe anatamiorum chitim ameleat oldu beano iciimasiorum  seni cioc sevdim tipchibabaghe sana cioc tesechirluear servi cioc sevdim

are you sure she is turkish? it sounds more like a googletranslate translation, and for the most part it doesn`t make any sense.

Hi Fensai

thanks for looking at that.

Not sure of her original nationality but undertand she had been living in Istanbul and she has certainly said Turkish is the language she uses. My impression from her writing is that she is barely literate and is probably writing phonetically - certainly when she writes it is done very laboriously.

I had tried putting it into google translate but as you say it made little sense. I thought it might be possible that someone who spoke Turkish might be able to decipher words from the sounds.

best wishes

Robin

I think your guess is correct, from what I can see it looks like a phonetic attempt at Turkish using English letter sounds.

The first part seems to say I don´t know that much English, although not in a normal way (to me), but I´m not Turkish 

Ben bilmiyorum Ingilizce o kadar (I am not knowing English that much)

çok fakirim (I am very poor)

çocuklarım eşim? Onur? (my children, my partner/husband Onur)

benim için (for me) çok (many/ a lot)

İstanbul´da burada (In Istanbul and here)

verdiler (they gave)

They gave much for me in Istanbul and here

Bir apartman oturum (I live in a apartment)

çocuklarım ve annem (my mother and children)

kızım (my daughter)

I´ll try to decipher the rest later, something about she had 3 operations

sana çok teşekkürler (many thanks to you) 

Thank you very much for working away at that - what you have translated makes sense in terms of what I know - she has three children, her mother has recently joined her in Scotland and i believe her elder daughter has a heart complaint that she has had some treatement for.

Anything else you can decipher much appreciated.

best wishes

Robin

Ben bilmiyorum İngilizce o kadar. Çok fakirim. Çocuklarım herşeyim onlar benim için. Benim evim(?) yok İstanbulda. Burada verdiler bir apartman. Oturuyorum çocuklarım ve annem. Kızım o benim için her şey ve iki erkek çocuğum var. Babam öldü 12 sene evvel. Çok hastayım. 3 ameliyat var benim ve bunun için ben anlatamıyorum. Kızım ameliyat oldu ve ben onun için yaşıyorum. Seni çok sevdim tıpkı bebek/baba. Sana çok teşekkürler. Seni çok sevdim.

I hope I can decipher other parts too

My guesses have been added in red. What do you think?

Gokuyum/ Henry

Thanks so much for working that out - when I put your version into google translate (not being a Turkish speaker myself) it at least begins to make a degree of sense.

I know Google translate can produce some surpriging results but what emerges is:

I do not know much English . Very poor. Let kids all the things they
have for me . My wife (?) Not in Istanbul. They gave an apartment here . I´m
sitting my children and my mother. My daughter and two boys everything for me?
...... my father died. Married for 12 years . Let me so sick . There are 3
surgery in me and I can not tell it. Severe / the surgery was raw . I do not
drink it . I live for her. ............ Thank you very much I loved you like .
I loved you a lot
 
Robin

 

I do not know much English . Very poor. Let kids all the things they
have for me . My wife (?) Not in Istanbul. They gave an apartment here . I´m
sitting my children and my mother. My daughter and two boys everything for me?
...... my father died. Married for 12 years . Let me so sick . There are 3
surgery in me and I can not tell it. Severe / the surgery was raw . I do not
drink it . I live for her. ............ Thank you very much I loved you like .
I loved you a lot
 
Robin

 

Let me so sick -> Ben de çok hastayım. -> I am also very sick

the surgery was raw -> çiğer ameliyat oldu -> it was liver surgery

I do not drink it ??? -> ben onun için yaşıyorum ??? -> I am living because of this (i.e. the surgery)