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Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates
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20.       denizli
961 posts
 22 Mar 2017 Wed 05:09 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

It was calculated by both sides. It was a political game. It makes me suprised to see you fanatically defend your goverment.

 

 

I don´t think either Government planned it as a game. How can you plan hooliganism. These things just escalate. No different than at a Footbal Stadium. The hooligans do this, then the Police do that, then the hooligans respond, then the police respond... If the hooligans don´t stop, eventually someone gets hurt. I wasn´t there but it didn´t seem like a peaceful protest.

Anyways it doesn´t make sense for the Dutch Government to plan something like this. It was the PVV party, the anti-immigrant party who looked like they benifitted, and they are not the Government. As after the clash, Geert Wilders stated on live television, according to him: the Turkish immigrants showed thier true colors that day, that they support Turkey over the Netherlands. And then the PVV party ended up doing well in the election, finishing in 2nd place and with more seats than in the 2012 election.

 

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21.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Mar 2017 Wed 06:01 pm

 

Quoting denizli

 

 

I don´t think either Government planned it as a game. How can you plan hooliganism. These things just escalate. No different than at a Footbal Stadium. The hooligans do this, then the Police do that, then the hooligans respond, then the police respond... If the hooligans don´t stop, eventually someone gets hurt. I wasn´t there but it didn´t seem like a peaceful protest.

Anyways it doesn´t make sense for the Dutch Government to plan something like this. It was the PVV party, the anti-immigrant party who looked like they benifitted, and they are not the Government. As after the clash, Geert Wilders stated on live television, according to him: the Turkish immigrants showed thier true colors that day, that they support Turkey over the Netherlands. And then the PVV party ended up doing well in the election, finishing in 2nd place and with more seats than in the 2012 election.

 

You can plan everything. I believe Holland goverment thought that giving a brutal response to Turkish protestors, diplomats and Turkish minister would help them have the sympathy of some voters. They knew Wilders was increasing his votes with his speeches against Turkey and Muslims and they decided to act violently to compete against him. That is what I think. I dont want to argue about this anymore. I explained myself very clearly. Maybe I am wrong. And maybe Holland goverment is full of angels (although they acted violently). Maybe I am paranoid or a conspiracy teorist. Maybe l am trolling you (someone wrote to me that) because I criticise the unnecessary use of force. But it is my nature not to trust politicians. What can I do? I cant change myself after so many years

 



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22.       denizli
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 22 Mar 2017 Wed 06:16 pm

Well at least we hit 3 pages. I can´t remember the last time that happened. 

I noticed even the image thumbnails aren´t working properly, what next...

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