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İ have an opinion......
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02 May 2007 Wed 03:55 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: stupid Neanderthaler males! |
Stupid Neanderthaler males versus clever homosapiens females! 
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02 May 2007 Wed 06:13 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: No!!! I will not wear a scarf, long skirts, or any other type of clothes because men have ideas about women being a sex object. It's not my problem that they have those stupid thoughts. Their ideas should change, they should be raised according to equality between women and men, in acts and in thoughts. Dressing - in what way - to avoid their aberration (yes, that is what it is: seeing women as 'things'), means I give in. And I will NOT do that!! If I want to wear miniskirts and tight tops or longsleeved blouses with ankle long skirts, it is MY choice and I'll wear it because I like those clothes fitting me well, because I think I look pretty in it, because I like my picture in the mirror, because I feel good wearing it. But never, never I will want to wear clothes because of the idea to 'protect' (?) me from stupid thoughts of Neanderthaler males! |
Thank you Trudy, I absolutely agree with you. I wouldn't REALLY wear a scarf and release men from taking responsibility for their sick behavior (the Neanderthal men I mean). The only problem is that women still have little equality in the society and are still imposed male-made ideas about beauty or roles. Obviously, it's MUCH better then in a fundamentalist religion, but let's not get the illusion that it's equal or that we are not controlled by men any more.
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03 May 2007 Thu 01:53 am |
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03 May 2007 Thu 04:48 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Catwoman, forget about society for a minute and tell us about those men who try to control you. Are they any different from other women who are trying to do the same thing? Who are they? How do they establish control over you? Please explain by giving examples from your own life... |
Vineyards, I guess your question is whether my standpoint is because of personal experiences and if not, then what is it exactly that I'm against. This is not about some personal anger, but about justice and basic decency. Somebody wrote here that 'most people (as the saying goes) who have a beating heart and a functioning brain are, at their core, feminists, even if they don’t identify with the word' because it's about empathy and responsibility as human beings.
Don't you see the world around? Read anything about women's rights across the world and it is very blatant what the issue is.
Maybe I need to clarify the fact that I don't think that men are the source of all evil. I think that men and women are equally bad and equally good, but men commit much bigger atrocities and many of them are against women.
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03 May 2007 Thu 11:44 am |
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04 May 2007 Fri 08:44 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: In order to observe this in full strength you need to remove a number of blankets; for example the economic one and then education. In deprivation, deprivation is the actual problem; it is the mother of all sins. We have serial murderers, thieves, crooks, housebreakers within that bracket too.
In poorer quarters, men do oppress women. The women they oppress are the victims of an economic order the benefits of which some of us gladly harvest. |
I agree with what you said in the second paragraph, but I don't understand exactly what you meant to say in the first one... Are you saying that if we lived affluent lives, there wouldn't be any discrimination and sexism? I don't agree with that if that's your point, but I agree that if there are additional difficulties, that exacerbates the pre-existing problems.
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