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bod, share your impressions on the trip!
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 02:47 pm |
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hi, bod!
i remember when you were going to leave for turkey, you had some doubts about understanding the native speakers. please, share now your experience and impressions, if you don't mind 
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 02:56 pm |
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 02:57 pm |
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Quoting rena: i remember when you were going to leave for turkey, you had some doubts about understanding the native speakers. please, share now your experience and impressions, if you don't mind |
My doubts were well founded......
When we arrived at the hotel, Hale remembered us from last year and Sam told her I was learning Türkçe. Immediately she said "gunaydın" which I did not understand when I heard it spoken 
Although my ability to understand spoken Türkçe has improved quite a bit whilst in the country, this has not been as much improvment as I had hoped......but I might have another opportunity to improve this October
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 02:58 pm |
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Quoting scalpel: I,too, would like to hear about his experience and impressions |
I am hoping to find time to write and upload an essay about the trip and my experiences - especially cultural and linguistic experiences. Watch this space 
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:00 pm |
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looking forward to 
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:06 pm |
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The other thing I found about spoken Türkçe was that I found it difficult to say even simple sentences. Talking to my doggies is very different to talking to Turks!!! The doggies show the same level of understanding whether I get the sentence correct or not
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:27 pm |
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Quoting bod: The other thing I found about spoken Türkçe was that I found it difficult to say even simple sentences. Talking to my doggies is very different to talking to Turks!!! The doggies show the same level of understanding whether I get the sentence correct or not |
If floss dog hasn't picked up any türkçe yet she must be the most confused animal on this planet I am looking forward to hearing your story bod
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:33 pm |
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My experience is that I can manage in shops, on the street asking for directions, but when the moment comes that I ask a question and someone replies, most of the time I'm totally lost
Mind you, it's easier for me to speak Turkish to a total stranger than to people I know.. Their English is too good, that is one reason, and I my level of Turkish is so low, such a poor vocabulary. I always had like stage fright when saying something in Turkish to people I know :-S
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:39 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: I always had like stage fright when saying something in Turkish to people I know :-S |
Exactly! But not only to people i know. To EVERYBODY! I was so embarassed to speak Turkish, although I understood (sometimes) what they were asking me. And then I was feeling so bad that even in their 'günaydın' I was replying with a 'good morning'.
I think that when I ll get over the fear of being humiliated cause of my stupid accent, only then I ll really learn how to speak this language. The same problems I used to have with English too :-S
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:47 pm |
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I remember walking in the street where my friend's house is situated, and a lady in a car stopped and asked me something in Turkish. I could understand something, she must have asked for directions, or about the street (since it is a dead-end street). It was so unexpected that all I could say was "bilmiyorum" and then I entered my friend's house. That woman must have thought I was a complete idiot, "living" in that street and not knowing anything about the neighbourhood 
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:48 pm |
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Quoting sophie: Quoting Elisa: I always had like stage fright when saying something in Turkish to people I know :-S |
Exactly! But not only to people i know. To EVERYBODY! I was so embarassed to speak Turkish, although I understood (sometimes) what they were asking me. And then I was feeling so bad that even in their 'günaydın' I was replying with a 'good morning'.
I think that when I ll get over the fear of being humiliated cause of my stupid accent, only then I ll really learn how to speak this language. The same problems I used to have with English too :-S |
ME TOO I wish I was not shy to speak the language... but when in Turkey, I have noticed that natives laugh when I try to speak it.... so now, I don't like to... I FEEL STUPID ... I just need to gain more confidence I think. Besides ... I have only just started learning.
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:53 pm |
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Quoting IZMIR060406: I wish I was not shy to speak the language... but when in Turkey, I have noticed that natives laugh when I try to speak it.... so now, I don't like to... I FEEL STUPID ... I just need to gain more confidence I think. |
That I never noticed! In general people really appreciate it when you try to make an effort, that's my experience.
You shouldn't feel stupid at all! You are doing more than your best!
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:55 pm |
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I didn't find anyone laughed at me when I spoke Türkçe - sometimes they would laugh at things I said or how I said them but they would mostly explain what was funny!
The most annoying were the people who I spoke to in Türkçe and who answered me in English.......they clearly understood my Türkçe as they could answer
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:57 pm |
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That I never noticed! In general people really appreciate it when you try to make an effort, that's my experience.
You shouldn't feel stupid at all! You are doing more than your best! |
Aww thank you... I am trying so hard... and it was actually people I knew who laughed... maybe they did not intend to offend me.. but it still has really has dashed my confidence.
x I SHALL SOLDIER ON... 
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 03:58 pm |
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Quoting bod:
The most annoying were the people who I spoke to in Türkçe and who answered me in English.......they clearly understood my Türkçe as they could answer |
That's only because they want to practice their English and show their knowledge, just like we want to do with Turkish. But I know, it can be frustrating
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 04:01 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: Quoting bod:
The most annoying were the people who I spoke to in Türkçe and who answered me in English.......they clearly understood my Türkçe as they could answer |
That's only because they want to practice their English and show their knowledge, just like we want to do with Turkish. But I know, it can be frustrating |
Maybe I should have shook my head and said:
özür dilerim bilmiyorum
ne konuşiyorsunuz?
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 04:06 pm |
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Quoting IZMIR060406: I have noticed that natives laugh when I try to speak it.... so now, I don't like to... I FEEL STUPID. |
I can manage the basics and find the turks love you to talk to them in their own lanaguage. There is the odd time i have been laught at. In this situation all i do is laugh with them and ask then to pronounce the word correctly. I then ask them how they would feel if i were to laugh at them when they spoke english wrong! They don't laugh again
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 04:09 pm |
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Understanding spoken and written Turkish are two totally different things. Speaking it is another story. It took me about a week in Turkey to start understanding what people were saying, but even after three weeks I could not possibly use Turkish. I had no problems at bus stations and shops, but whenever I was with friends, they'd criticise my attempts to speak. Even if I had the vocabulary and grammar right, they'd always come down on me for my intonation sounding...too rude :-S
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 04:11 pm |
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One phrase I got plenty of opportunity to practice was dün akşam kafam güzeldi
Türkçe is easier when biraz kafam güzel
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 05:14 pm |
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Quoting bod: Quoting Elisa: Quoting bod:
The most annoying were the people who I spoke to in Türkçe and who answered me in English.......they clearly understood my Türkçe as they could answer |
That's only because they want to practice their English and show their knowledge, just like we want to do with Turkish. But I know, it can be frustrating |
Maybe I should have shook my head and said:
özür dilerim bilmiyorum
ne konuşiyorsunuz?
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correction:konuşuyorsunuz
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 05:25 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: correction:konuşuyorsunuz
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Tabii Elisa, sağol.
That is the sort of thing you don't really need to worry about when talking but is far more important whilst writing :-S
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:01 am |
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Quote: One phrase I got plenty of opportunity to practice was dün akşam kafam güzeldi
Türkçe is easier when biraz kafam güzel
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The reason for bod found Turkish easier when his kafası güzel is that he got the courage in himself to speak Turkish without minding any mistakes. It takes people learning a foreing language to get the courage to speak in the target language as it happened to me while learning English. Once you get that courage you speak better.
As being a Turkish I can tell you that some people might smile while you speak Turkish. But it not in the sense of making fun of your speaking. We like seeing non Turkish people trying to speak Turkish and help them.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:10 am |
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Quoting qdemir: The reason for bod found Turkish easier when his kafası güzel is that he got the courage in himself to speak Turkish without minding any mistakes. It takes people learning a foreing language to get the courage to speak in the target language as it happened to me while learning English. Once you get that courage you speak better. |
Yes indeed - but it was a little more than that......
I was not afraid of opening my mouth (at least once I discovered the correct pronounciation of "merhaba" ). The problem I found was stringing more than 2 or three words together!!! When a little more relaxed I found I could easily string six or seven words together in the same way as I can do when talking to the doggies!
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 02:10 pm |
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ohh ive been dying to hear about your trip bod!
when i was in turkiye they understood what i said, laughed a little but i didn't have a clue what they said back..they speak to fast! i want to test my turkish one day and go into this food place by me what turkish people own.. but im too shy too! when i have more confidence i will go there hehe
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 06:13 pm |
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I wish I hear your speeches in Turkish!
Çok merak ediyorum...
Msn Messenger'dan Türkçe pratik yapmak isteyenlerle konuşabiliriz.
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31 Aug 2006 Thu 09:30 am |
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I can only say a few things but has anyone noticed that the Turkish people say anything ending in r eg var, ler as je as in the Enlish word leisure
Jo-Anne
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