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is a relationship between turkish man and english woman possible??????
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| 80. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:17 pm |
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Yes, you mean, you lined up in front of an embassy like all the other Speedy Gonzaleses who want to beam themselves to a civilized part of the world; and you obtained a visa for yourself. It is not a problem for you to have an identity of your own. An instant identity will do the job. Have you become a civilized European dear just because you obtained the visa? If so, think whom you are associating with even your best friends routinely complain of lovers of the West like you who come to settle down in their countries.
If you ask me it is a virtue to love one's country and to work for it. You have nothing to be proud of when it comes to culture unless you take others' culture for granted.
I do have a couple of Kazakh friends here in Turkey, when I ask them they describe their country much more positively than a wanna-be-western girl like you. I respect them for whatever they are. Because whoever they may be they will return to their countries and work for their own people holding on to their own values and resources. They certainly do not need people like you. You are a shame for the Kazakhs too.
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| 81. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:29 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Yes you mean you lined up in fron of the embassy like those speedy Gonzaleses and obtained yourself a visa. It is not a problem for you to have an identity of your own. An instant identity will do the job. Have you become a civilized European dear just because you obtained the visa?
If you ask me it is a virtue to love one's country and to work for it. You have nothing to be proud of when it comes to culture unless you take others' culture for granted.
I do have a couple of Kazakh friends here in Turkey, when I ask them they describe their country much more positively than you wanna be Western girl and I respect them for whatever they are. Because whoever they may be they will return to their countries and work for their own people holding on to their own values and resources. They certainly do not need people like you. You are a shame for Kazakhs too.
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are you not tired of shaming me? as you have already stated that im disrespectful, spineless, and im shameless too. im a total crap in the understanding of easterners. thats absolutely OK with me. i wont die because a few backward people call me so.
as for kazakhs, there are different kazakhs, like you patriots, they see their country as the only wonderful place on the earth. they would cut your tongue off if you criticise their country, but is it OK to be angry with those who criticise my country? everyone is entitled to criticise or praise!
so, the difference between me and you turks is, i do accept both criticism and praise, but you turks accept only praises, NEVER criticism.
im open to any opinion, and i have my eyes wide open to all stupid and evil things hapenning in kazakhstan.
do you guys think that you bring all the glory to turkey praising it or hiding its evils? 
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:31 pm |
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if you hate the WEST what the heck you wanna join EU!
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| 83. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:32 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting vineyards: Moderators why don't you take action against this person when she disparages all Muslims openly, in a public forum.
Why didn't you join the war in Iraq on the side of the US troops femme. You would have a chance to spit on their holy book. |
Isn't it unfair that men can marry whoever they want and women have to stick to a muslim? What is wrong with that femme said this? To me it surely does not prove an equal treatment. |
Trudy for something to be unfair first in must be true. You can claim that still a certain percentage of the women in Turkey are oppressed by their husbands and I would agree with you in that. Don't you have some males who are rude to females? As far as I know Dutch is very rich in swear words. Even I have heard of tons of curses despising women. Now that swear words are a part of the slang and slang is a part of a culture; should we claim that women are bashed, ridiculed and sexually abused in Holland?
This equation will not hold water:
Islam = Turkey = No rights for women.
You probably came over here. How was the atmosphere was it so medieval. If so why are you so much interested in our culture. Do you want to prescribe some Christian values because you think Islam is adequate in that regard. Well for my own part being an atheist living in a muslim society all my life, I wouldn't claim that myself. I read all hold books including Zoraster, I can't claim anyhting in line with what you implied in your message.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:34 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: if you hate the WEST what the heck you wanna join EU! |
When did I say I want to join the EU. Our politician want to join it. The party I voted for did not win the elections. I certainly don't approve of the policies of our government but then we have democracy don't we?
Plus, when did I ever say I hate West?
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| 85. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:36 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Islam = Turkey = No rights for women.
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for your record, vineyards, nobody stated so.
and stop making up stories
we were talking about the conditions of women in the islam.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:38 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Quoting femme_fatal: if you hate the WEST what the heck you wanna join EU! |
When did I say I want to join the EU. Our politician want to join it. The party I voted for did not win the elections. I certainly don't approve of the policies of our government but then we have democracy don't we?
Plus, when did I ever say I hate West? |
you hate the west, its so obvious as i hate east!
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| 87. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:39 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: Islam = Turkey = No rights for women.
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for your record, vineyards, nobody stated so.
and stop making up stories
we were talking about the conditions of women in the islam. |
do they have any condition at all?
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| 88. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:40 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: Islam = Turkey = No rights for women.
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for your record, vineyards, nobody stated so.
and stop making up stories
we were talking about the conditions of women in the islam. |
Fem, you are no expert on Islam, or any religion for that matter. I suggest it's best you follow forum rules and not discuss things you know so little about. Your actions are provocative and insulting.
Also, your understanding of the English language is not sufficient to get into such a conversation.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:41 pm |
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That's it I claim that I don't hate the West and you claim you hate the East. You have admitted your hatred so get the hell out of here this is a site for the learners of an Eastern language.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:46 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: That's it I claim that I don't hate the West and you claim you hate the East. You have admitted your hatred so get the hell out of here this is a site for the learners of an Eastern language. |
im at least truthfull and you a liar.
you speak of respect and mutual tolerance, sweeten the the sweet cake but deep in your heart you hate them all!
i speak of antipathy but deep in my soul i do care for them therefore i speak the bitter truth, which you dont wanna see.
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