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A frustrating situation, losing my mind
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1.       louisa
87 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 07:13 pm

2.       satorijane
54 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 08:31 pm

The distance & language barriers don't help do they? I empathise. I am in a similar position to you. On & off. And never sure which way it is cutting.

Other girls - I only know when I was in Istanbul the guys there were not exactly monogamous. I was chatted up by one while his girlfriend was a few tables away (a friend of his told me later Later one man told me it was a game...see who could score the most foreign girls.
Now maybe it was just the area I was in - but this made me think...

A poem though - that's got to be a good sign?

3.       Seticio
550 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 08:36 pm

Well in my opinion you should be very very carefull, it's something strange with this guy.
Don't get me wrong, nut romantic poems and sweet words aren't anything special for turkish men who have grown up in turkish culture, full of love songs, love poetry and love at all.
I think he doen't seem to be faithfull or he could have problems with it in future. You said he remembered you during the whole year but he had 4 girls in thet time... Well it doesn't seem true love. That question to your father about his marriage was also strange.
What exactly do you know about him? I don't ask you to explain it on Forum but think yourself. Do you know him good enough to marry him?
You also should do it if you are so confused and not sure about your and his feelings. Long distance relationships require full trust from both sides.

4.       louisa
87 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 08:52 pm

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 08:59 pm

Yes, what Seticio said is very wise. She knows Turkish culture a little better and all she said is very true.
This boy sounds suspicious... and if not now, you might have problems with him in the future. If you really love someone, let him go, if he comes back, he belongs to you, if not - he never did.

6.       kay05
42 posts
 19 Oct 2005 Wed 09:16 pm

It sounds like you may mean something to him, but it's difficult because when you write things on here they sound different, I mean we can't see things as they happen. Perhaps he just sent you the same text again purposely. It's easy to be paranoid in long-distance relationships, I know this. The question he asked your dad is basically saying he will look at other women regardless of whatever happens. If he works in tourism he will be with girls often. You should get to know him better, but don't worry so much. Time will tell the answer. Perhaps some day you and him will be together. He kept his promise this time about contacting you, which is good. He invited you to meet his family,and also he said you won't touch (I presume you mean in that way) until your marriage, which shows he must have respect for you, more than just a fling. But that is just my opinion. You say his friends were 'shocked'? That seems good, don't you think?

7.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 12:44 am

I can add a little something to this discussion. In your first post you said that he told you it is his job to be 'loving' to the ladies.

This is quite true. Turkish boys who work in tourist areas always smooze the punters! Do you understand this expression? it means basically they make themselves very attractive to the ladies because it keep them coming back to the bar/hotel/restaurant whatever, not just for that holiday but other years too. The texting is part of it also. The bosses in Turkey rely on their staff to forge relationships with the customers to keep them coming back. the boys who work, if they are successful at attracting the customers,will also get their jobs back the following summer. this is the way the entire Turkish tourist industry works. i hate to be so negative to you, but when he said he had 4 other girls he was telling the truth, although I would say for 4 girls he meant 10 girls (at least)
The reason he became so close to your dad is also simple. In turkish society Men are everything. although you will read lots on this site and others that turkish mothers are 'everything' actually it is the male relationships that are the most important. Just watch any group of turkish men together. Even the tiny 'boy' children are part of the group. They are encouraged to be like 'small men' the older boys will teach the little ones to be just like them. There is a very close bond between brothers, cousins uncles, fathers etc. they all look out for each other. This is a very powerful thing. Watch the boys in the tourist areas when they have finished work. They stay closely together and the camaraderie between them is very strong. He like your dad a lot because a) he is another man. b) He would need your fathers approval to 'court' you and c) Your father was the most important person in your family group.

There are two separate issues for you to learn about here. One is the way the Turkish boys behave in tourist areas and their attitude towards the holidaymakers - there is a lot of politics here which you need to learn to understand fully. The other thing is Turkish culture, which is totally different from the tourist thing. This is so hugely different from your experiences in England. (I'm guessing you are from the UK becuase of the way you write, but please correct me if I am wrong) Turkish culture is rather like English culture was 50 or 60 years ago, but a bit more complex because of the religious differences.

I am guessing you are around 16 or 17 years old and not sexually experienced. He could tell this and this is why he said you were 'like a turkish girl' - again correct me if i am wrong. You didn't say whether he tried to have sex with you (this is quite surprising), but maybe you didn't give him any signals to encourage him. There are a zillion posts on this sites about relationships between Turkish boys and tourist girls. You would do well to read them all and see if any of them sound similar to your story. You will have your eyes opened. You will also learn something of Turkish culture and of the 'tourist politics' I mentioned.

I hope I didn't sound too hard on you or have upset you by explaining things you didn't want to hear, but please read all the posts you can - click on the blue word 'Forums' and read everything. You will learn a lot and maybe come up with some ideas of your own. GOOD LUCK

8.       louisa
87 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 12:58 am

9.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 01:59 am

Hi again Luisa. No i don't think you were stupid. I think you have just fallen for this boy because he is handsome, charming and made you feel like a beautiful cherished lovely girl. Just learn everything you can about turkey and turkish boys and wait and see what happens.

10.       louisa
87 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:43 am

11.       carla
320 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 07:21 pm

You always hear about Turkish men who work in the tourist industry hurting girls who fall for them, but I think you can't always judge. There has to be some exceptions right?

It is difficult as Kay said to see things as they are, you have basically tried to explain your whole story in a few paragraphs, so things may not be as we percieve them. I don't know much about Turkish culture etc when it comes to relationships, so forgive me if my reply is useless to you.

All I can say is that I know a Turkish man who works in some apartments, he met an English girl who was staying in those apartments 2 years ago, and he is marrying her in a month's time. Then he will go to England. When I was staying there, I saw a girl ask him to dance and he politely pushed her away and told her he is soon-to-be a married man. He tells people all the time that he is in love with her. He still calls other girls 'darling' etc, but he seems to be faithful (well, from what I saw anyway).

There has to be guys who don't fit into the 'player' category surely. Maybe you have found one of those guys. I think, don't stop the contact, but don't let him think you are so desperate to be with him. What will be, will be. There is nothing to lose. If love is there, then you will see it and he will prove it somehow.

12.       bliss
900 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 10:28 pm

Hello,
I was reading all the time and came to this conclusion, that we judge the guys for being nice to girls.I liked the post Lyndie wrote about touristic places.I think it is same everywhere in the world.Don't you think we have to be alert and do not fall for them.I want to ask this question to all girs on our site.Don't you go anywhere in your own country, own city? Isn't it same there? When we go to restaurants there are so many good looking and nice guys.Do we fall for everyone there?
Maybe I am wrong, I don't know, just feel bad to hear all these stories.I feel bad for the young girls who hurt so bad.Take care of yourself, be strong please.

With best reagards Bliss

13.       x-man
60 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 10:35 pm

I am completely agree with you Bliss...

14.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 10:45 pm

Maybe you'll all disagree, but there are absolutely NO good looking, charming, romantic, sexy guys in england AT ALL! If there are, they are usually gay or married

15.       bliss
900 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:10 pm

But do we look for good looking or charming guys to get married and share our life with them.I think for that reason we have to look deep inside of person , find our soulmate and get married to him.And I think it is important to have all beauty they have inside, not outside.
With years all the outside beauty is gonna go away anyway.
Hehe, do not judge me very strong.Just telling the truth.

16.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:12 pm

Been there! done that! Now I'll just settle for charming, romantic, handsome, shallow and preferable RICH!

17.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:16 pm

Oh alright - I was just being controversial and a little bit mischievous!

18.       bliss
900 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:20 pm

Hehehe, Lyndie!!!
I like it and believe you were there.
Yes sure we all are looking for that.

19.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Oct 2005 Thu 11:42 pm

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Yes it's just that I don't want to ignore his messages and stop the contact. Is there no chance that he may actually care for me? I mean he stayed in touch this time, and he said about meeting his family and everything.



Louisa, sorry for getting off track.
Look you don't have to ignore his messages and stop the contact, its a lovely feeling to be in communication with someone like this and to feel all loved up with him. Enjoy it BUT - just don't set your heart on anything coming from this. Maybe it will and maybe it won't. Just take my advice, don't stop your life for this boy. Don't sit pining indoors waiting for his texts. Don't sit there checking your phone every 5 minutes waiting for him. Don't stop going out with your friends, in case he texts, don't say no to someone else who you like and who asks you to go out with them.
In short enjoy this romantic little episode in your life and wait and see what happens, but don't repeat don't have too high an expectation OK? GOOD LUCK again.

20.       Seticio
550 posts
 21 Oct 2005 Fri 06:49 pm

I agree with Lyndie. Time will show whether this boy is worth trusting or not. But try not to involve yoursefl into it to much because later you can be very dissapointed. Lyndie knows touritic face of Turkey and she really knows what she's saying.

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