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Crimes getting more and more in Turkey
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 08:14 pm |
thats really biggest worry in Turkey lately,if it goes this way i think noone never will walk on roads in safe.Thats the reflection of economical and social changes in Turkey after 1980's.freedom is ofcourse nice but whenit gets more then enough i think that will be reason of many crime machines
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 08:50 pm |
That is unforunate Mr.X however, crime is terrible every where now a days. Even the nice neighborhoods are not safe. I remember when I was kid, my parents never locked the front door. Now it's unheard of, not sure about Turkey. I still believe that the punishment has to fit the crime, before people start to change their behavior. There is little consequences for some of the crimes people committ. For instance you steal, you get a slap on the hand. Maybe if that hand was cut off, people would think twice about stealing.
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 09:03 pm |
I agree crime is getting worse everywhere in the world. For example look what happened to Jesse James in the UK (Jesse James, a 15 year old boy shot dead off his bike).
People realise whats going on, some fail to do nothing and go after petty crimers instead where as those doing their best to solve crimes are not getting any help.
Also war is upon many countries and it's not yetting getting better.
All we can do is hope that the world gets a better place, before the human destroys it.
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 09:29 pm |
This leads me to another topic I will post here. Headline News in my area. 14 year old boy shot to death, trying to steal a car. Apparently, a man went out and started his car for work. He went back inside to warm up, then came out later and a 14 year old boy was in the driver seat. So the man went back in to get his gun and killed the boy. What are your thoughts on this? I would love to hear from anyone.
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 10:15 pm |
Quoting teaschip: This leads me to another topic I will post here. Headline News in my area. 14 year old boy shot to death, trying to steal a car. Apparently, a man went out and started his car for work. He went back inside to warm up, then came out later and a 14 year old boy was in the driver seat. So the man went back in to get his gun and killed the boy. What are your thoughts on this? I would love to hear from anyone. |
What the hell? Ok I know the boy was in the wrong but God he doesn't deserve to be shot! What a life that was ruined, only 14
Do you know how long the man was jailed for?
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 10:28 pm |
This is the thing Kai, people are calling into the news and radio saying that the man had every right to shoot him. It's terrrible how our society is resorting to this. If it was my car, I would have just called the police. The car is replaceable, however the boy is not. It just happened last night and I'm not sure what's going to happen to the man. He should go to prison. The laws here say, if someone breaks into your house and you fear for your life you have the right to defend yourself, which I agree. However were talking about a car, the man could have just called the police.
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 10:47 pm |
I agree the car can be replaced.
In my country the law is pathetic. One time a man was burgling a house and fell from the skylight and he claimed compensation and got it! because it was on another persons property.
If it were me I would have just said well it's his own damn fault for being in a place he shouldn't be in the first place.
Even a burgler does not deserve to be shot unless he is putting someone's life at risk.
I hope the man that shot that poor boy get sentenced to life imprisonment, but I know in Turkey that won't be happening.
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24 Oct 2006 Tue 11:24 pm |
Hı
Teachıp, with regards to your post about a 14 year old boy, what if the boy will not really steal the car or maybe just of curiosity, he wants to drive (he wants to know the feeling of driving a car) and the man was so abrupt in his action e.i. concluding it the boy would steal his car. But its too late to realize, the boy is gone and the crime already happened. Nobody had the chance to know the real motive of the boy, supposingly the man could have just called a police and investigate.
Horrible, anyway, in our place there are also like that. Young boys became snatchers which i wondered why the police forces cannot do anything to stop it.:S
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25 Oct 2006 Wed 12:27 am |
Quoting teaschip: This leads me to another topic I will post here. Headline News in my area. 14 year old boy shot to death, trying to steal a car. Apparently, a man went out and started his car for work. He went back inside to warm up, then came out later and a 14 year old boy was in the driver seat. So the man went back in to get his gun and killed the boy. What are your thoughts on this? I would love to hear from anyone. |
It just confirms my views on gun laws in the US. The pioneer days are long gone, there is no justification for having a gun to defend yourself, in my opinion.
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25 Oct 2006 Wed 11:22 am |
Quoting kai: I agree crime is getting worse everywhere in the world. For example look what happened to Jesse James in the UK (Jesse James, a 15 year old boy shot dead off his bike).
People realise whats going on, some fail to do nothing and go after petty crimers instead where as those doing their best to solve crimes are not getting any help.
Also war is upon many countries and it's not yetting getting better.
All we can do is hope that the world gets a better place, before the human destroys it. |
ye think muckle aneugh for your age,lass.ye shouldna fash yesell wi'sich matters.why are ye nae plahing in the sunshine?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:03 pm |
i believe that goods always more then bads on world and life,but pity bads seems more stronger then goods by their minorty,thats such a paradox.and i think lawyers and goverments not enough skilfull to prevent crimers.Violence,drugs,and bad economical conditions main reasons about the crimes getting more,and pity media not enough responsible to lessen this reasons.i think we all have to make true coments about freedoms for don't make worse to things??::
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 12:36 am |
The truth about this topic is that the government has never done anything to prevent crime but on the contrary they have done only things to encourage crime. For instance they have released all prisoners including rapists and murderers and thieves from prisons in a general discharge which was a desicion by the parliement. The reason was that prisons were full. Of course the majority of the criminals come back to the prisons but this time they have come back after commiting another crime whether it was rape, murder or robbery.
If you were a victom the last think you would want to see would be to see the criminal to be released. This is a huge problem. If somebody kills a person and you go to court you will know that the person will be released after a few years and will come back after you. They have no fear to tell you exactly the same thing in the court room.
A murderer or rapist shouts in the courtroom to the witness and says "don't say anything you ... I'm going to come after you". You would expect the authorities to do something about this but you are mistaken. They will give a 20 year sentence to the criminal. In Turkia a 20 year sentence means 6 years in prison according execution law which says you stay 30% of what you get. So the criminal is going to be release after 6 years? No. You are wrong again. There is a national discharge every few years. It has never taken 6 years between two discharges. So the person will be release in 3 or 4 years.
And he is going to come after you. Why? Didn't you already understand yet. It is only another 3 years for him which is nothing.
Crime levels have been low in Turkia over the years because the Turkish citizens, majority of them are ethical and considerate. On the other hand a very very bad justice system has increased crime levels considerable. Every criminal who goes to prisons comes out and goes again and again. Some o fthem do this for 15 times or even 20 times.
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:10 am |
i agree all with Erdinç,when the punishment become incapable for the crimes,people feel theirself more free for commit a crime.especially if theres big social,economical and educational problems in a society.So govermenets have to protect rights of innocents,never quilties'...but pity politicans and goverments act with political worries when doin somethings about that as on everything..
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