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Buddhist marry Muslim
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260.       azade
1606 posts
 10 May 2007 Thu 10:24 pm

culday that's a nice thought but practicing muslims simply can't marry someone not off the books.

261.       culday
0 posts
 10 May 2007 Thu 10:32 pm

Azade,
can you explain your opinion/question, ı don't know good English like you, and then I 'lll give you an answer.

262.       azade
1606 posts
 10 May 2007 Thu 10:54 pm

Sorry your english is MUCH better than my turkish But yani, this is süra 5:5 "Bu gün size temiz ve hoş şeyler helâl kılındı. Kendilerine kitap verilenlerin yiyecekleri size helâl, sizin yiyecekleriniz de onlara helâldir. Mü'min kadınlardan iffetli olanlarla, daha önce kendilerine kitap verilenlerden olan iffetli kadınlar da, mehirlerini vermeniz kaydıyla; evlenmek, zina etmemek ve gizli dost tutmamak üzere size helâldir. Her kim de inanılması gerekenleri inkar ederse bütün işlediği boşa gider. Ahirette de o, ziyana uğrayanlardandır."
= muslims can only marry people of the book.

263.       panta rei
0 posts
 10 May 2007 Thu 11:25 pm

Quoting azade:

= muslims can only marry people of the book.



I think you have missed the following point, azade.

Quoting azade:

Mü'min kadınlardan iffetli olanlarla, daha önce kendilerine kitap verilenlerden olan iffetli kadınlar da,



"Mümin" above must mean "believer", but not "muslim" (because saying "the chaste ones among believer women", -mumin kadınlardan iffetli olanlar-, tells that "there may be non-chaste women among the believers" which is understandable. But there cannot be non-chaste women among "the Muslims", because in that case they wouldn't be called "Muslim". Or if they are still called "Muslim", this would purely go absurdity.)

So, "beliver women" refers to a more general defitinion than "belivers/people of the book", unless it is defined or limited somewhere else in the Koran. Now, whom would you call "a believer"? Only those from the people of the book? Namely, only a Muslim, a Christian or a Jewish? Can't a Buddhist be called "a believer"? If so, why?

264.       culday
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 12:29 am

For the attention of AZADE=
According to Islam=
There are three holy religions in the world =
1. Jewishness (Judaism) ( Jewish)
2. Christianity (Christian)
3. Islam (Muslim)
Buddhism (Buddhist) is not a religion.
But a Buddhist of course may be a Muslim, like a Jewish, a Christian, if she/he wish.
But people don't have right to force anybody to change their way of living, according to Islamic philosophy .

265.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 12:48 am

culday,
buddhism is not a religion.
are you sure you went to school?

266.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 12:55 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

culday,
buddhism is not a religion.
are you sure you went to school?



Well I definitely went to school and there I was taught Buddhism is not a religion but a lifestyle based on a certain phylosophy and psychology and the main figure, Buddha, is never seen as divine, but just one of the rare human beings that lead us to enlightment.

267.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 12:58 am

to panta rei:
you really dont know or pretending?
1. its about monotheistic god
2. mohammed had no idea about buddhism and other religions, how could he?

268.       panta rei
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 01:00 am

I doubt you have properly understood my post above, femme fatal. Would you like to try again?

269.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 01:03 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting femme_fatal:

culday,
buddhism is not a religion.
are you sure you went to school?



Well I definitely went to school and there I was taught Buddhism is not a religion but a lifestyle based on a certain phylosophy and psychology and the main figure, Buddha, is never seen as divine, but just one of the rare human beings that lead us to enlightment.


oh deli deli,
then you dont know the definition of the word "religion". go to school one more time, together with culday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

all my best regards to a princess of TC

270.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 11 May 2007 Fri 01:06 am

Quoting panta rei:

I doubt you have properly understood my post above, femme fatal. Would you like to try again?


i have no doubt i caught your idea.
why cant be a believer? is it problem to you?

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