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break down of pronounciation
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 05:03 pm |
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Hi My name is Janette. I am new to this site and forum. Over the past 10 years i have been travelling to Turkey and made quite a few friends along the way. So thought it was time to learn the language. However i find the reading ok, but would help a great deal if there was some kind of break down on how to pronounce the words and phrases.
Any help would be much appreciated, thank you
Janette xxx
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 07:23 pm |
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We have the same problem, My written turkish is not too bad but my pronunciation ...! I suppose I must sound very funny but luckily, The people I talk to - When I can!- are very polite and do not make fun of me so my advice to you is :
SPEAK to native people as much as you can , no matter how silly you feel (Believe me, I feel like speaking mandarin chinese!) They will correct your pronunciation as a good friend did with me , I had no idea that turkish "L " WAS NOT like spanish " L " ! simply amazing!...
If you have problems while pronunciating " ö " and " ü " you are not alone hehe..oh and when I found out the way they pronounced " Hâlâ " I wanted to die  I still cant say that!!!
Iyi sanslar dilerim,
Dilara.
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 08:28 pm |
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ooh how do you pronounce it then?
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 08:37 pm |
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Good question oceanmavi!
I pronounce ö like spanish o
I pronounce ü like spanish u (both are very soft)
and I pronounce " Hâlâ " (Still ) Like "Hala" ( AUNT!!)
The " still" sounds like " Haaalaaa" to me
But I cant understand something, once I was saying the numbers from 1 to 20 in turkish and when I say "Four " (dört ) the person laughted! and told me it sounded like another thing !! I told him ...sounded like what? but he didnt want to tell me ...Who can tell me ?
I deserve to know...maybe it is nothing and he was teasing , by the way It was clear I couldnt say " dört" correctly I dont like number 4 anymore!
Dilara.
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 10:45 pm |
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You can type in a English/Turkish word or click on any Turkish word here and it will bring you to a Turkish dictionary. It is in the middle of the left hand side of the screen.
When you are in the dictionary you can click on the top and hear what the Turkish word sounds like.
On the top of the screen, right under where it says Turkish-> English is a little arrow to click on that will allow you to hear the word. It's fabulous!
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 11:33 pm |
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Quoting alameda: You can type in a English/Turkish word or click on any Turkish word here and it will bring you to a Turkish dictionary. It is in the middle of the left hand side of the screen.
When you are in the dictionary you can click on the top and hear what the Turkish word sounds like.
On the top of the screen, right under where it says Turkish-> English is a little arrow to click on that will allow you to hear the word. It's fabulous! |
Thats genius,i use the dictionary alot but didnt know it had this facility.v.impressed!thanks!
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09 Oct 2007 Tue 11:45 pm |
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Wow ... you learn something new every day!
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 12:04 am |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: Wow ... you learn something new every day! |
Yes, I was here for months before I discovered those little hidden treasures....
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 03:09 am |
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Yes, I discovered that months ago but I didnt like the sound, for example , For me the sound of "Hâlâ " is the same as "Hala" there which is not correct??
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 03:29 am |
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I am sorry, Dilara but you're supposed to be able to say hâlâ (still), and not hala (aunt). Because, as far as I see, Latin American people cannot say strong "L" (Arabs and many Africans cannot say either!)
Hala's (aunt) "L" is pure Turkish strong "L", but hâlâ's (still) "L" sounds like your "L"
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 11:28 am |
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Hi Thank you all for the help, its much appreciated, didnt know that about the dictionary either, now i can make a start!
Thank you again
Janette xx
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 12:19 pm |
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Quoting Janette1169: Hi My name is Janette. I am new to this site and forum. Over the past 10 years i have been travelling to Turkey and made quite a few friends along the way. So thought it was time to learn the language. However i find the reading ok, but would help a great deal if there was some kind of break down on how to pronounce the words and phrases.
Any help would be much appreciated, thank you
Janette xxx |
http://www.fsi-language-courses.com/
on this site you can find and download for free a book for learners of Turkish and recorded lessons. These mp 3 are very useful for pronouncation practice.Good luck!
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 12:28 pm |
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Once again Thank you. Had a quick look at the site and it looks very useful.
Im rather overwhelmed at the help i have received in such a short space of time from members here. Its very kind of you all.
A huge Thank you !
Janette xx
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 06:09 pm |
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Quoting caliptrix: I am sorry, Dilara but you're supposed to be able to say hâlâ (still), and not hala (aunt). Because, as far as I see, Latin American people cannot say strong "L" (Arabs and many Africans cannot say either!)
Hala's (aunt) "L" is pure Turkish strong "L", but hâlâ's (still) "L" sounds like your "L" |
Biliyorum ama benim için telaffuz etmek kolay degil caliptrix :-S Turkçe " L " garip kulaklara!! , ve " Hâlâ " hakkinda , sorunum " â " çunku ünlüyü uzatıyor!
"rüzgâr " gibi , Hâlâ " Hâlâ " telaffuz etmeye çalışıyorum
Dilara.
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 06:12 pm |
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Quoting Janette1169: Once again Thank you. Had a quick look at the site and it looks very useful.
Im rather overwhelmed at the help i have received in such a short space of time from members here. Its very kind of you all.
A huge Thank you !
Janette xx |
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10 Oct 2007 Wed 06:12 pm |
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Quoting Janette1169: Once again Thank you. Had a quick look at the site and it looks very useful.
Im rather overwhelmed at the help i have received in such a short space of time from members here. Its very kind of you all.
A huge Thank you !
Janette xx |
At first, I was as overwhelmed as you, I couldnt believe that people here were SO HELPFUL AND KIND! But yes, Luckily for us, it is like that and it just shows THE NATURE OF TURKISH PEOPLE (Yes, with Capital Letters!!) one of the reasons to remain here and to go on learning this beautiful -although challenging- language!!
Dilara.
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12 Oct 2007 Fri 03:45 pm |
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Hi, Dilara!
I'm a beginner in Turkish but since I live in Bulgarian and there are a lot of people who speak Turkish here...so anyways I have a great tip for pronounicg ö and ü. Everyone said that I do it like a native speaker.
So ö - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "o" but say "u"
And ü - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "u" but say "i"
I hope that will wprk for you too...
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12 Oct 2007 Fri 03:59 pm |
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Quoting Masha BG: Hi, Dilara!
I'm a beginner in Turkish but since I live in Bulgarian and there are a lot of people who speak Turkish here...so anyways I have a great tip for pronounicg ö and ü. Everyone said that I do it like a native speaker.
So ö - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "o" but say "u"
And ü - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "u" but say "i"
I hope that will wprk for you too... |
German has both ö/ü. They sometimes write ö as oe and u as ue.
My dictionary defines them as follows:
ö as French eu in peu
ü as French u in tu
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12 Oct 2007 Fri 04:36 pm |
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Quoting si++: Quoting Masha BG: Hi, Dilara!
I'm a beginner in Turkish but since I live in Bulgarian and there are a lot of people who speak Turkish here...so anyways I have a great tip for pronounicg ö and ü. Everyone said that I do it like a native speaker.
So ö - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "o" but say "u"
And ü - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "u" but say "i"
I hope that will wprk for you too... |
German has both ö/ü. They sometimes write ö as oe and u as ue.
I also speak French, and I would say that there's a slight difference. French "eu" and "u" are a bit more open sounds.
My dictionary defines them as follows:
ö as French eu in peu
ü as French u in tu |
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12 Oct 2007 Fri 05:15 pm |
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Quoting Dilara: Good question oceanmavi!
I pronounce ö like spanish o
I pronounce ü like spanish u (both are very soft)
and I pronounce " Hâlâ " (Still ) Like "Hala" ( AUNT!!)
The " still" sounds like " Haaalaaa" to me
But I cant understand something, once I was saying the numbers from 1 to 20 in turkish and when I say "Four " (dört ) the person laughted! and told me it sounded like another thing !! I told him ...sounded like what? but he didnt want to tell me ...Who can tell me ?
I deserve to know...maybe it is nothing and he was teasing , by the way It was clear I couldnt say " dört" correctly I dont like number 4 anymore!
Dilara. |
This makes me laught I have an idea about that word. I'll tell you with a PM İt is kinda rude.
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16 Oct 2007 Tue 10:27 pm |
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Hello Janette,
We pronounce all Turkish words according syllables. Syllabling is one of the most critical and most overlooked topics for Turkish learners.
I have explained this topic here in detail:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_1466
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16 Oct 2007 Tue 10:35 pm |
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Quoting Prym: Quoting Dilara: Good question oceanmavi!
I pronounce ö like spanish o
I pronounce ü like spanish u (both are very soft)
and I pronounce " Hâlâ " (Still ) Like "Hala" ( AUNT!!)
The " still" sounds like " Haaalaaa" to me
But I cant understand something, once I was saying the numbers from 1 to 20 in turkish and when I say "Four " (dört ) the person laughted! and told me it sounded like another thing !! I told him ...sounded like what? but he didnt want to tell me ...Who can tell me ?
I deserve to know...maybe it is nothing and he was teasing , by the way It was clear I couldnt say " dört" correctly I dont like number 4 anymore!
Dilara. |
This makes me laught I have an idea about that word. I'll tell you with a PM İt is kinda rude. |
Açiklama için çok tesekkurler Prym beni guldurdun hehe
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16 Oct 2007 Tue 10:37 pm |
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Quoting Masha BG: Hi, Dilara!
I'm a beginner in Turkish but since I live in Bulgarian and there are a lot of people who speak Turkish here...so anyways I have a great tip for pronounicg ö and ü. Everyone said that I do it like a native speaker.
So ö - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "o" but say "u"
And ü - place your lips as if you want to pronounce "u" but say "i"
I hope that will wprk for you too... |
A tip like yours was EXACTLY what I needed! I hope I can sound like you because these 2 letters really drive me mad!
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 03:24 pm |
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Quoting Dilara: Good question oceanmavi!
I pronounce ö like spanish o
I pronounce ü like spanish u (both are very soft)
and I pronounce " Hâlâ " (Still ) Like "Hala" ( AUNT!!)
The " still" sounds like " Haaalaaa" to me
But I cant understand something, once I was saying the numbers from 1 to 20 in turkish and when I say "Four " (dört ) the person laughted! and told me it sounded like another thing !! I told him ...sounded like what? but he didnt want to tell me ...Who can tell me ?
I deserve to know...maybe it is nothing and he was teasing , by the way It was clear I couldnt say " dört" correctly I dont like number 4 anymore!
Dilara. |
you may say "halen" instead of hala. 
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 05:10 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting alameda: You can type in a English/Turkish word or click on any Turkish word here and it will bring you to a Turkish dictionary. It is in the middle of the left hand side of the screen.
When you are in the dictionary you can click on the top and hear what the Turkish word sounds like.
On the top of the screen, right under where it says Turkish-> English is a little arrow to click on that will allow you to hear the word. It's fabulous! |
Thats genius,i use the dictionary alot but didnt know it had this facility.v.impressed!thanks! |
Hi all
I was curious about how that dictionary pronounced the words and tested in several words. Unfortunately the pronunciation is terrible. It is not recordings of a real person who speaks there, it is a software that reads. It can be of some help, but it is way far from being correct.
You can test this with your example words- hala and hâlâ. The pronunciation it makes is exactly the same for both.
And in other words I checked the toning is awful.
If you speak like that software people would think you are a robot in disguise! Sorry to disappoint you guys...
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 06:20 pm |
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I thought that too. I had to repeat the sound a few times to get it and even now i cant say things like Coffee ~ Kahve. I pronounce it Kar-vay. Which i know isnt right but thats what it sounds like on the dictionary voice.
Janette xx
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 09:18 pm |
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Quoting fearless: Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting alameda: You can type in a English/Turkish word or click on any Turkish word here and it will bring you to a Turkish dictionary. It is in the middle of the left hand side of the screen.
When you are in the dictionary you can click on the top and hear what the Turkish word sounds like.
On the top of the screen, right under where it says Turkish-> English is a little arrow to click on that will allow you to hear the word. It's fabulous! |
Thats genius,i use the dictionary alot but didnt know it had this facility.v.impressed!thanks! |
Hi all
I was curious about how that dictionary pronounced the words and tested in several words. Unfortunately the pronunciation is terrible. It is not recordings of a real person who speaks there, it is a software that reads. It can be of some help, but it is way far from being correct.
You can test this with your example words- hala and hâlâ. The pronunciation it makes is exactly the same for both.
And in other words I checked the toning is awful.
If you speak like that software people would think you are a robot in disguise! Sorry to disappoint you guys...
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I TOTALLY agree with you, the pronunciation is AWFUL. Please, dont rely on that.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 09:19 pm |
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Quoting yenibiri: Quoting Dilara: Good question oceanmavi!
I pronounce ö like spanish o
I pronounce ü like spanish u (both are very soft)
and I pronounce " Hâlâ " (Still ) Like "Hala" ( AUNT!!)
The " still" sounds like " Haaalaaa" to me
But I cant understand something, once I was saying the numbers from 1 to 20 in turkish and when I say "Four " (dört ) the person laughted! and told me it sounded like another thing !! I told him ...sounded like what? but he didnt want to tell me ...Who can tell me ?
I deserve to know...maybe it is nothing and he was teasing , by the way It was clear I couldnt say " dört" correctly I dont like number 4 anymore!
Dilara. |
you may say "halen" instead of hala. |
Tesekkurler, bunu bilmiyordum ve daha kolay gorunuyor!!
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 09:53 pm |
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Quoting fearless: Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting alameda: You can type in a English/Turkish word or click on any Turkish word here and it will bring you to a Turkish dictionary. It is in the middle of the left hand side of the screen.
When you are in the dictionary you can click on the top and hear what the Turkish word sounds like.
On the top of the screen, right under where it says Turkish-> English is a little arrow to click on that will allow you to hear the word. It's fabulous! |
Thats genius,i use the dictionary alot but didnt know it had this facility.v.impressed!thanks! |
Hi all
I was curious about how that dictionary pronounced the words and tested in several words. Unfortunately the pronunciation is terrible. It is not recordings of a real person who speaks there, it is a software that reads. It can be of some help, but it is way far from being correct.
You can test this with your example words- hala and hâlâ. The pronunciation it makes is exactly the same for both.
And in other words I checked the toning is awful.
If you speak like that software people would think you are a robot in disguise! Sorry to disappoint you guys...
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i am a native speaker but i dont understand what he says in the dictionary part. it is horrible. 
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