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10.       femme_fatal
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 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:15 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



My question is - in a country that is, say, at least 90% muslim,


no, CANLI would proudly say 99% muslim :-S

11.       femme_fatal
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 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:18 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

I am not sure it is entirely correct. Or at least it was not the case.




So in Turkey you hardly notice Ramadan eh? There are hardly any mosques? Hardly anyone visits them?

Just recently since the new government eh?


hmmm very strange

12.       femme_fatal
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 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:18 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I was AMAZED to read about this recently! Not only are they legal, but they are government owned!! Apparently they look after their prostitutes extremely well - they have to undergo medical examinations on a weekly basis.

My question is - in a country that is, say, at least 90% muslim, who are the customers? Turkish News says that they have managed to curb forced prostitution because Turkish men were happy to report it - therefore I assume it is not just tourists using them

A quote from a few years ago made me laugh :-
'I've been very surprised,' said Marielle Lindstrom, head of the IOM in Turkey. 'We haven't noticed this anywhere in Europe. Turkish men seem to have an old-fashioned view of women. They don't mind using prostitutes, but they want the woman to be doing this willingly. If she's found not to be doing it willingly ... it affects their pride.' lol lol lol
The Independent



a very good point!

13.       femme_fatal
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 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:20 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



The only time 97% of the population go to church is for weddings, funerals and christenings!!



and christmas!

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:53 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

I am not sure it is entirely correct. Or at least it was not the case.




So in Turkey you hardly notice Ramadan eh? There are hardly any mosques? Hardly anyone visits them?

Just recently since the new government eh?


You would not notice ramadan 20 years ago. But you do notice now! (last year when I was in Istanbul, we found a bit difficult to find a restaurant which would serve us raki during ramadan). About the mosques, you are absolutely right about the number. It is unbelivably high (waste of money for a developing country).
However, although 99% call themselves muslims, but only 8% wants sheriah. 60 percent will say religion is quite important to them.
I think that represent a fluctuation about this matter, when you look at the years and draw a graph.
The question is how suddenly people started to 'discover' the religion? And what happened during last 20 years in Turkey?
And also you can question about how strong beliefs are in Turkey too. Definately it is not the same islam as in saudi arabia. It is kind of softened version of it. More tolerant I would say. Alchol consumption is very high for example which is strictly forbidden (but all my relatives drink their rakis every night, all bars and meyhanes are full)
You would see many mini skirt wearing beautiful girls in summer. They are all in that 99%.
So what I am trying to say that islam is different in Turkey then what you know 'islam in pakistan'.
Ah..going back to subject:
The men visit brothels, they are in that 99% too.





15.       femme_fatal
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 11 Nov 2007 Sun 11:57 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

I am not sure it is entirely correct. Or at least it was not the case.




So in Turkey you hardly notice Ramadan eh? There are hardly any mosques? Hardly anyone visits them?

Just recently since the new government eh?


You would not notice ramadan 20 years ago. But you do notice now! (last year when I was in Istanbul, we found a bit difficult to find a restaurant which would serve us raki during ramadan). About the mosques, you are absolutely right about the number. It is unbelivably high (waste of money for a developing country).
However, although 99% call themselves muslims, but only 8% wants sheriah. 60 percent will say religion is quite important to them.
I think that represent a fluctuation about this matter, when you look at the years and draw a graph.
The question is how suddenly people started to 'discover' the religion? And what happened during last 20 years in Turkey?
And also you can question about how strong beliefs are in Turkey too. Definately it is not the same islam as in saudi arabia. It is kind of softened version of it. More tolerant I would say. Alchol consumption is very high for example which is strictly forbidden (but all my relatives drink their rakis every night, all bars and meyhanes are full)
You would see many mini skirt wearing beautiful girls in summer. They are all in that 99%.
So what I am trying to say that islam is different in Turkey then what you know 'islam in pakistan'.
Ah..going back to subject:
The men visit brothels, they are in that 99% too.


sad to hear this

16.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:15 am

The way some get around this is via a type of marriage called

Muta marriage

It is a controversial topic, but I've even seen some say if a condom was used, they really didn't do zinna. Same thing I heard once with a Saudi who was drinking scotch. His reply was that the Quran talked about wine.

It is a Shia practice and legal in Iran today, from what I've heard...

17.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:28 am

No, absolutely not....We already have them in sufficient numbers...no future in this field for foreign ladies...

18.       femme_fatal
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 12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:40 am

Quoting alameda:

The way some get around this is via a type of marriage called

Muta marriage


it is a pure prostitution

19.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:52 am

Female Prostitution exists in almost all the societies, where -at least- some of the male population is not gay...

Anyone here says there is no prostitution in his/her country?

20.       femme_fatal
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 12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:55 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Female Prostitution exists in almost all the societies, where -at least- some of the male population is not gay...

Anyone here says there is no prostitution in his/her country?


to your info
not all the countries have them legal.

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