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You need to know at least three languages
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 01:54 pm |
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What is your true reason to use Turkish Class?
Do you really love Turkish Language learning as your foreign language, if so it is necessary for you to speak it in your posts.Because it is not special skill or talent to speak English Language here.
The characters of the Turkish Alphabet have been adopted from the Latin Alphabet,but only those letters suitable to the language have been taken, with the addition of a few special characters.It is composed of twenty-nine letters, twenty-one of which are consonants and eight vowels.
You need to know at least three languages as a really cultured person in this life...
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 02:10 pm |
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Quoting yilgun-7: Do you really love Turkish Language learning as your foreign language |
Oh god... another one of those "do you really love Turkey" questions...  
No, I don't really love learning Turkish!  I'd much rather not need to learn it and just know three languages at birth!
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 02:11 pm |
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Merhaba Christina,
Tebrik ederiz.
Siz çok kültürlü bir kimsesiniz.Çünkü 5 dil konuşuyorsunuz.
Türkçe dilinde bir deyim vardır= Bir lisan bir insandır.Siz 5 insan gibisiniz.
Sizin gibi kültürlü bir kimse çok az bulunur.
Türkçe'yi de kısa zamanda öğreneceğinizden hiç kuşkumuz yok.
Size iyi şanslar dileriz, yolunuz açık olsun.
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 02:18 pm |
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Ben de Türkiyeyi çok seviyorum ve Türkçe en mühteşem bir dil!  Ama öğrenmeyi çok sevmiyorum... 
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 02:48 pm |
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Merhaba Christina,
Düzgün cümle kuruyorsun.
Çok iyi bir başlangıç yapmışsın..
Kısa bir süre içinde Türkçe konuşur hale gelirsin.
Size "Turkish Grammar Note in English" göndereceğim.
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 03:02 pm |
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Teşekkürler Yilgun.Benim Universite'de türkçe ders var ve orada öğreniyorum.Ne zaman Turkish Grammar Note gönderecek misin?
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 03:30 pm |
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"Türkçe Dilbilgisi Notu"nu yarın göndereceğim.
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 03:50 pm |
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Quoting yilgun-7: What is your true reason to use Turkish Class? |
To enjoy using Turkish and to help others.
Quoting yilgun-7: Because it is not special skill or talent to speak English Language here. |
Disagree!! Many, many of the Turkish people on this site write excellent English, with a wider vocabulary and more grammatically correct thanmany of the translation requests from native English speakers. I think of all you deserve a round of applause!
Quoting yilgun-7: You need to know at least three languages as a really cultured person in this life...
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Oh dear, poor me, I am obviously not really cultured
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 03:52 pm |
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Quote:
Oh dear, poor me, I am obviously not really cultured |
totally disagree 
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 04:33 pm |
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Well, I think learning foreign languages really expends your thoughts as it allows you to know another cultures deeper and also ways of thinking , point of views , traditions etc and yes, I think the more languages you know, the more culture you get !!
As for english language , everybody uses it BUT not everybody can write good english so I also congratulate all turkish users who write amazingly , considering the fact that for many of them, it wasn't easy to learn english due to the differences in grammar and structure with turkish...
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 05:05 pm |
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Dilara, tienes razon!
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 05:19 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Dilara, tienes razon! |
¿ También estás de acuerdo conmigo ?
Saludos para tà , ¡cuÃdate mucho ! y te felicito, tu español es fantástico ! Your spanish is great , I see it everytime we write to eachother 
greetings ,
Dilara.
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 05:29 pm |
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Un abrazo muy fuerte, querida!
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 05:51 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Un abrazo muy fuerte, querida! |
MuchÃsimas gracias
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 06:23 pm |
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I grew up with english and french as native languages. I learnt after almost failing english 2 semesters in a row yet having 100% in french consistantly that I have a knack for learning languages. I have been learning Turkish & Croatian for a year now, I gave up Italian because it bored me .. go figure .. I plan on adding more languages middle of this year. Norwegian and arabic maybe, not sure yet. I have found that with Croatian language you can get a mixture of Serbian & Macedonian also. With Turkish I love how it sounds, and from what I am learning of the cultures associated with these languages I like what I have learnt so far. Gotta love languages.
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08 Jan 2008 Tue 06:45 pm |
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Quoting Leelu: I grew up with english and french as native languages. I learnt after almost failing english 2 semesters in a row yet having 100% in french consistantly that I have a knack for learning languages. I have been learning Turkish & Croatian for a year now, I gave up Italian because it bored me .. go figure .. I plan on adding more languages middle of this year. Norwegian and arabic maybe, not sure yet. I have found that with Croatian language you can get a mixture of Serbian & Macedonian also. With Turkish I love how it sounds, and from what I am learning of the cultures associated with these languages I like what I have learnt so far. Gotta love languages. |
What's all that for though...? Is this part of your career plans or just a hobby..?
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 11:15 am |
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Quoting Dilara: Quoting Roswitha: Un abrazo muy fuerte, querida! |
MuchÃsimas gracias |
Yo tambien quierro hablar con vosotros en espanooooool
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 11:19 am |
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Quoting Leelu: I grew up with english and french as native languages. I learnt after almost failing english 2 semesters in a row yet having 100% in french consistantly that I have a knack for learning languages. I have been learning Turkish & Croatian for a year now, I gave up Italian because it bored me .. go figure .. I plan on adding more languages middle of this year. Norwegian and arabic maybe, not sure yet. I have found that with Croatian language you can get a mixture of Serbian & Macedonian also. With Turkish I love how it sounds, and from what I am learning of the cultures associated with these languages I like what I have learnt so far. Gotta love languages. |
I grew up with greek and russian.Then learned very fast english coz it's easy also french(not so easy but lovely language) then took up spanish and thaks to french-spanish and greek I understand italian and portuguese.Italian is not boring in my opinion very melodic language!!!Now I am trying to learn turkish and a little farsi (my best friend is Persian) and I will take up japanese next year coz it ROCKSSSS and it will help me learn Korean which would normally be my mother tongue (but mum didn't bother to learn   )
Languages are very important but I also think that culture can be approached by other means too.
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 12:10 pm |
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I think Marion is correct,you guys speak English here do so really well and you should be pleased with yourselves.I would be if i could speak Turkish as well as that! I think learning languages does give you a greater understanding of cultures and traditions plus it also gives you a great excuse to go travelling which isnt something i will be complaining about!! I would love to learn Arabic as somebody has already said but maybe it would be too hard
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 12:40 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I would love to learn Arabic as somebody has already said but maybe it would be too hard |
I am trying to learn Arabic too. But it has got its own alphabet which is hindering me. Actually i memorized Arabic letters in a week time and now i know Arabic letters but i still cant read Arabic texts properly. Yes its a hard language to learn but its not impossible. Maybe pronunciation will be problem for you.
Quoting SERA_2005: I think learning languages does give you a greater understanding of cultures and traditions plus it also gives you a great excuse to go travelling which isnt something i will be complaining about!! |
+1
I know just English and German as a foreign language. So i am not the cultured one yet 
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 12:51 pm |
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Quoting Umut_Umut: Quoting SERA_2005: I would love to learn Arabic as somebody has already said but maybe it would be too hard |
I am trying to learn Arabic too. But it has got its own alphabet which is hindering me. Actually i memorized Arabic letters in a week time and now i know Arabic letters but i still cant read Arabic texts properly. Yes its a hard language to learn but its not impossible. Maybe pronunciation will be problem for you.
Quoting SERA_2005: I think learning languages does give you a greater understanding of cultures and traditions plus it also gives you a great excuse to go travelling which isnt something i will be complaining about!! |
+1
I know just English and German as a foreign language. So i am not the cultured one yet
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I think pronunciation may be a problem but i think i could probably get it with practice.But like you say there is a new alphabet to learn which is different for me as i havent tryed to learn a language as yet which had a totally different one.Anyway i will try!
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 05:04 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Leelu: I grew up with english and french as native languages. I learnt after almost failing english 2 semesters in a row yet having 100% in french consistantly that I have a knack for learning languages. I have been learning Turkish & Croatian for a year now, I gave up Italian because it bored me .. go figure .. I plan on adding more languages middle of this year. Norwegian and arabic maybe, not sure yet. I have found that with Croatian language you can get a mixture of Serbian & Macedonian also. With Turkish I love how it sounds, and from what I am learning of the cultures associated with these languages I like what I have learnt so far. Gotta love languages. |
What's all that for though...? Is this part of your career plans or just a hobby..? |
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 09:49 pm |
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Yilgun-7 the threads started by you always create a good -and generally -peaceful debate, congrats!
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 09:51 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting Umut_Umut: Quoting SERA_2005: I would love to learn Arabic as somebody has already said but maybe it would be too hard |
I am trying to learn Arabic too. But it has got its own alphabet which is hindering me. Actually i memorized Arabic letters in a week time and now i know Arabic letters but i still cant read Arabic texts properly. Yes its a hard language to learn but its not impossible. Maybe pronunciation will be problem for you.
Quoting SERA_2005: I think learning languages does give you a greater understanding of cultures and traditions plus it also gives you a great excuse to go travelling which isnt something i will be complaining about!! |
+1
I know just English and German as a foreign language. So i am not the cultured one yet
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I think pronunciation may be a problem but i think i could probably get it with practice.But like you say there is a new alphabet to learn which is different for me as i havent tryed to learn a language as yet which had a totally different one.Anyway i will try! |
I would also love to learn arabic! This language is so challenging and beautiful but yes, I have heard it's very very hard, however I know some spanish who speak perfect arabic which means that if you focus on that, you can do it!
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 10:14 pm |
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Quoting Dilara and Sera:
I think pronunciation may be a problem but i think i could probably get it with practice.But like you say there is a new alphabet to learn which is different for me as i havent tryed to learn a language as yet which had a totally different one.Anyway i will try!
I would also love to learn arabic! This language is so challenging and beautiful but yes, I have heard it's very very hard, however I know some spanish who speak perfect arabic which means that if you focus on that, you can do it!
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Pronunciation and intonations are always a challenge for any language, but once you get the swing of learning a language, it is not as difficult, only a challenge. Learning some scripts can be more complex than others. Arabic is not as challenging as many other scripts. For a Castellano speaker, I think you'll only find one or two letters tricky to pronounce in Arabic.
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 10:31 pm |
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When I will learn Turkish I can count myself into cultured people
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 10:40 pm |
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Quoting lagushka: When I will learn Turkish I can count myself into cultured people |
Ojala!!!Insallah 
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10 Jan 2008 Thu 10:47 pm |
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Are you Turkish?
Quoting kafesteki kus: Quoting lagushka: When I will learn Turkish I can count myself into cultured people |
Ojala!!!Insallah |
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 11:22 pm |
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 11:31 pm |
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Language Learning: An Open Door to the World
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 11:34 pm |
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11 Jan 2008 Fri 11:57 pm |
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http://www.omniglot.com/language/articles/bilingualkids1.htm
http://www.elearningyellowpages.com/LanguageCourses/BenefitsofForeignLanguageLearning-a29.html
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 02:05 pm |
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I would hazard a guess that most of the British who use this site are not fluent in anything but English - the exceptions being those British citizens whose mother tongue is not English! By this reckoning, we should form a new TC gang - the (Very) Uncultured Club !
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 02:17 pm |
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Quoting lady in red:
I would hazard a guess that most of the British who use this site are not fluent in anything but English - the exceptions being those British citizens whose mother tongue is not English! By this reckoning, we should form a new TC gang - the (Very) Uncultured Club ! |
well, whether i like it or not, i guess i am part of that club, and so do the others who are not good at turkish, or not know at least 3 languages. even though i would like to think that i'm cultured, it has come to my attention that apparently, am not.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 02:20 pm |
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Knowing 3 lang= a cultured pers. Well that is not a hard and fast rule. One may be 'potentially' on the way to being cultured, would be more appropriate. Knowing Turkish is not necessary to become a cultured person, but it helps on this site. Oh, and one does not have to be cultured to begin learning Turkish.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 02:37 pm |
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Quoting lady in red:
I would hazard a guess that most of the British who use this site are not fluent in anything but English - the exceptions being those British citizens whose mother tongue is not English! By this reckoning, we should form a new TC gang - the (Very) Uncultured Club ! |
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 02:56 pm |
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Quoting shama-uk: Quoting lady in red:
I would hazard a guess that most of the British who use this site are not fluent in anything but English - the exceptions being those British citizens whose mother tongue is not English! By this reckoning, we should form a new TC gang - the (Very) Uncultured Club ! |
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Unfortunately this is so true and if you can't grasp the grammar of your own language you are going to have real problems learning a new one.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 03:08 pm |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: Knowing 3 lang= a cultured pers. Well that is not a hard and fast rule. One may be 'potentially' on the way to being cultured, would be more appropriate. Knowing Turkish is not necessary to become a cultured person, but it helps on this site. Oh, and one does not have to be cultured to begin learning Turkish. |
exactly,well said the idea of Turkish as an obligatory language in order to be cultured one is like the idea of communism to make everyone feel happy 
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 03:13 pm |
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Quoting lady in red:
Unfortunately this is so true and if you can't grasp the grammar of your own language you are going to have real problems learning a new one. |
It is possible to learn or even master another grammar without knowing the grammar of your own langauge. Of course it does help to know your own grammar. In terms of English grammar (my own language), I can only remember being taught punctuation and some simple basics through out my schooling. I'm more aware of grammatical teminology in other languages I learned than in English. My weakness of my English.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 04:17 pm |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: Quoting lady in red:
Unfortunately this is so true and if you can't grasp the grammar of your own language you are going to have real problems learning a new one. |
It is possible to learn or even master another grammar without knowing the grammar of your own langauge. Of course it does help to know your own grammar. In terms of English grammar (my own language), I can only remember being taught punctuation and some simple basics through out my schooling. I'm more aware of grammatical teminology in other languages I learned than in English. My weakness of my English. |
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 04:38 pm |
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Quoting shama-uk: Quoting Waseem_UK: Quoting lady in red:
Unfortunately this is so true and if you can't grasp the grammar of your own language you are going to have real problems learning a new one. |
It is possible to learn or even master another grammar without knowing the grammar of your own langauge. Of course it does help to know your own grammar. In terms of English grammar (my own language), I can only remember being taught punctuation and some simple basics through out my schooling. I'm more aware of grammatical teminology in other languages I learned than in English. My weakness of my English. |
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Your not going to get a back lash from me! i agree, how can it be a bad thing to brush up on our own language as well as learning a new one.To be honest i have found that when i am try to learn Turkish it means that i remember or am reminded of English grammer rules etc that i had long forgotten! Good luck with the cleaning,wish i could be a help.Oh a new career move for myself,hmm perhaps not.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 05:04 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting shama-uk: Quoting Waseem_UK: Quoting lady in red:
Unfortunately this is so true and if you can't grasp the grammar of your own language you are going to have real problems learning a new one. |
It is possible to learn or even master another grammar without knowing the grammar of your own langauge. Of course it does help to know your own grammar. In terms of English grammar (my own language), I can only remember being taught punctuation and some simple basics through out my schooling. I'm more aware of grammatical teminology in other languages I learned than in English. My weakness of my English. |
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Your not going to get a back lash from me! i agree, how can it be a bad thing to brush up on our own language as well as learning a new one.To be honest i have found that when i am try to learn Turkish it means that i remember or am reminded of English grammer rules etc that i had long forgotten! Good luck with the cleaning,wish i could be a help.Oh a new career move for myself,hmm perhaps not. |
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 05:57 pm |
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Few words in another language can save your life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJDeF2RHMw
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 06:05 pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYO5aw4wPHE
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 06:14 pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVPxKbrj1x8&feature=related
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 06:27 pm |
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I learnt French and Spanish at school and have since taken evening classes in both languages, but without practice, it is difficult to keep up.
When I recently went to Brussels, I was quite pleased with the amount of French I understood. I was in a meeting conducted entirely in French, and I was able to answer questions and talk about myself. Most of my Spanish I have lost or I think I have .
Then for some reason I decided to learn Turkish and really that has been a disaster!!  I don't really have the time to devote or chance to try out as every Turkish person I know speaks or writes very good English!!
As for being cultured because you know languages, for me culture is more about theatre, social aspects, traditions, rites and rituals, literature and language is only a small part of being cultured.
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12 Jan 2008 Sat 07:07 pm |
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Yea! Libralady!
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 02:56 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
As for being cultured because you know languages, for me culture is more about theatre, social aspects, traditions, rites and rituals, literature and language is only a small part of being cultured. |
i agree with that, but i must note that to understand theatre, traditions, rites and rituals you have to speak the language. so in my opinion you cannot understand a culture without speaking its language.
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 03:07 pm |
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speaking a few languages really big advantage for to get all world,but as Bridget's said cultures more then that,so languages just tools for that,so i believe to learn or speak a language correctly impossible without live it in real,otherwise its just a good grammer or a rich vocabulary thats all.Coz a simple word even says so different things to different cultures,really hard search without to be in it allto live is the best learning method...
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 03:08 pm |
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Quoting Ms Palacsinta: ..... so in my opinion you cannot understand a culture without speaking it's language. |
what about the mute???
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 03:23 pm |
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Quoting kafesteki kus: Quoting Ms Palacsinta: ..... so in my opinion you cannot understand a culture without speaking its language. |
what about the mute??? |
writing its lanugage... knowing it. hm, i really dont know. never been thinking about that.
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 04:18 pm |
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Temel and Dursun were strolling in the streets of Trabzon. An American tourist came by and stopped them; he obviouly had a question.
The American tried in English first, he was not understood. He tried in German without success. He repeated his question in French, no response. Spanish did not help at all and Chineese was also a total waste. Running out of his languages, the American walked away in anger, mumbling 'idiots' from under his breath.
When he was gone, Temel turned to his friend philosophically and said 'You know what Dursun? All this talk, about each new language making one wiser, is total bulshit. You saw the man; he spoke 5 languages, yet the poor sod could not even express himself.'
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 04:27 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Temel and Dursun were strolling in the streets of Trabzon. An American tourist came by and stopped them; he obviouly had a question.
The American tried in English first, he was not understood. He tried in German without success. He repeated his question in French, no response. Spanish did not help at all and Chineese was also a total waste. Running out of his languages, the American walked away in anger, mumbling 'idiots' from under his breath.
When he was gone, Temel turned to his friend philosophically and said 'You know what Dursun? All this talk, about each new language making one wiser, is total bulshit. You saw the man; he spoke 5 languages, yet the poor sod could not even express himself.' |
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 06:22 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting AlphaF: Temel and Dursun were strolling in the streets of Trabzon. An American tourist came by and stopped them; he obviouly had a question.
The American tried in English first, he was not understood. He tried in German without success. He repeated his question in French, no response. Spanish did not help at all and Chineese was also a total waste. Running out of his languages, the American walked away in anger, mumbling 'idiots' from under his breath.
When he was gone, Temel turned to his friend philosophically and said 'You know what Dursun? All this talk, about each new language making one wiser, is total bulshit. You saw the man; he spoke 5 languages, yet the poor sod could not even express himself.' |
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 OMG that was great!!! and how true .. hahahaha ..
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