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How (not) to do it - Harams/helals
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:37 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting DR TREATMENT: Its not your business who is the better Muslim or who is the representative of Islam. |
Quoting MarioninTurkey:
You cannot decide who is a good muslim or not, and who can represent Islam or not.
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Thank you Marion and Dr. Treatment for your translations. Adonis actually I CAN decide anything I want for myself, as a non muslim I can only judge you by your actions. |
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME, COS I'M FREE!!!
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:41 pm |
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Quoting adonis: ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME, COS I'M FREE!!! |
Have a great night canim 
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:43 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
Therefore, those terrorists simply use religion as a political tool, mainly because it's SUCH AN EASY easy way to convince and manipulate maaassesss of people. Especially that lots of people in the middle east are not very educated and already live in religious dicatorships with no or little room for free, independent thought. |
+10000000000
You are right on target! Many, if not all, terrorist organizations take poor, uneducated people with no hope of a decent future in and basically brainwash them into thinking that "the west is evil", "infidels must be killed", "if you blow yourself up and take as many 'enemies' with you as possible you will go to heaven and all great things are waiting for you there" and they will twist religion in the way it suits them. Now that is selective thinking. It's such an easy way to brainwash people because they have no chance of seeing the big picture as they don't have access to information, so they just eat up whatever propaganda is being fed to them.
I think the real challenge in fighting terrorism is starting at the roots, because if they don't have naive, poor people to recruit, it all falls apart.
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:45 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting incişka: As i said b4, i know ur intention was not to hurt anyone, but, please, when u use religious topics to have fun, just be careful. because some ppl who take the religion seriously may be hurt, and they are already. as we see... |
If you have strong belief, nothing anyone says here should be able to hurt you. However (even though your post was to Libralady) I take your point and hope religious people will have the same respect for the fact that I dont have any religion and dont want it shoved down my throat  |
In this particular instance you shovelled it into your own, enormous mouth. The thread title was a clear warning it would have a religious angle. So, you had a choice DEAR. The truth of the matter is you enjoy every opportunity you get to whinge on and on and on and on and on.
"FRANKLY" whilst you know a lot of "FACTS" you aren't smart . . . you're a great stonking ignoramus!!!
I just realised that there is absolutely no point in talking to you and I'm sure you'll be glad to know that.
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:49 pm |
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Quoting peace train: In this particular instance you shovelled it into your own, enormous mouth. The thread title was a clear warning it would have a religious angle. So, you had a choice DEAR. The truth of the matter is you enjoy every opportunity you get to whinge on and on and on and on and on.
"FRANKLY" whilst you know a lot of "FACTS" you aren't smart . . . you're a great stonking ignoramus!!!
I just realised that there is absolutely no point in talking to you and I'm sure you'll be glad to know that.
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I dont see your problem  The thread was a fun one, it was not quoting the Quran at me
Just calm down PT and take a chill pill - you are letting your dislike of me affect the quality of your posts lately 
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:49 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting catwoman:
Therefore, those terrorists simply use religion as a political tool, mainly because it's SUCH AN EASY easy way to convince and manipulate maaassesss of people. Especially that lots of people in the middle east are not very educated and already live in religious dicatorships with no or little room for free, independent thought. |
+10000000000
You are right on target! Many, if not all, terrorist organizations take poor, uneducated people with no hope of a decent future in and basically brainwash them into thinking that "the west is evil", "infidels must be killed", "if you blow yourself up and take as many 'enemies' with you as possible you will go to heaven and all great things are waiting for you there" and they will twist religion in the way it suits them. Now that is selective thinking. It's such an easy way to brainwash people because they have no chance of seeing the big picture as they don't have access to information, so they just eat up whatever propaganda is being fed to them.
I think the real challenge in fighting terrorism is starting at the roots, because if they don't have naive, poor people to recruit, it all falls apart. |
It is exactly the opposite...West takes all, somethimes including the dignity of people.
The man is left with his religion alone. But atack does not end. West starts trying to ridicule his religion too. Guess what happens afterwards !
Most Azades, though not of a Western religion, live in the West - of course !
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:52 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: It is exactly the opposite...West takes all, somethimes including the dignity of people.
The man is left with his religion alone. But atack does not end. West starts trying to ridicule his religion too. Guess what happens afterwards? |
Time to leave the discussion .... I cant argue all night with pdr, much as I would like to
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:54 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF:
It is exactly the opposite...West takes all, somethimes including the dignity of people.
The man is left with his religion alone. |
Somehow, I would agree with the writer for the part above.
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:56 pm |
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How does "he" know that the west ridicules his religion if he's living in a country where he has very limited access to information and news, while the information that he does get is selected and twisted?
The way I described is exactly how terrorist organizations recruit naive victims.
Hereby not saying that "the west" is without any guilt, it's not all black and white of course. Sure I also feel some resentment towards the character of the typical "westener" hating on muslims, but that does not drive people to acts of terrorism.
Alpha is Turkey part of "the east" or "the west" by the way?
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 10:59 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting peace train: In this particular instance you shovelled it into your own, enormous mouth. The thread title was a clear warning it would have a religious angle. So, you had a choice DEAR. The truth of the matter is you enjoy every opportunity you get to whinge on and on and on and on and on.
"FRANKLY" whilst you know a lot of "FACTS" you aren't smart . . . you're a great stonking ignoramus!!!
I just realised that there is absolutely no point in talking to you and I'm sure you'll be glad to know that.
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you are letting your dislike of me affect the quality of your posts lately |
Got it in one!
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 11:02 pm |
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West tells you the suicide bombers are born idiots, and you believe them. You obviously have a very clean washed brain yourself.
You cant even suspect there may be another gross reality behind the suicide bombers ! You are happy to be safe, sound and well fed among others. That is your price...
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