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1.       maryilyons
153 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 03:07 pm

I know çok means "much" or "many"  and az means "little" or "few" and biraz means "a little" or "any" or "some" or "a bit"

 

What is the difference?  When do I use çok az and when do I use biraz?

 

I know the following phrases:

 

Çok az Türkce biliyorum. (I know a little bit of Turkish.)

 

Seni çok ozledim.  (I miss you a lot)

 

Biraz daha yavaþ konuþun.  (Speak a little slower.)

 

I am confused as to why I use çok az instead of biraz to say "I know a little bit of Turkish." I guess I don´t understand how çok and az work together.

 

Teþekküler.

2.       Melek74
1506 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 03:19 pm

You´d use biraz to say "a little" and çok az to say "very little"(as in almost not at all) - so I think it´s a difference in degree - to me biraz is more than çok az. So, for example, to say "I speak a little Turkish" I´d use biraz and probably mean that I know some grammar and quite a few words. If I used çok az in the same sentence, I´d probably mean that I know how to say hello and ask where the bathroom is in Turkish. {#lang_emotions_smile}

 

 

3.       maryilyons
153 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 03:27 pm

Okay, so it is grammatically correct to say "Biraz Türkce biliyorum"? 

 

So çok by itself means "very" or "much" as in seni çok ozledim?

 

I just realized I don´t know how to ask where the bathroom is in Turkish! 

4.       sonunda
5004 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 04:05 pm

 

Quoting maryilyons

Okay, so it is grammatically correct to say "Biraz Türkce biliyorum"? 

 

So çok by itself means "very" or "much" as in seni çok ozledim?

 

I just realized I don´t know how to ask where the bathroom is in Turkish! 

 

 1-I think so-that´s what I say and I´m understood. (if you said çok az.... you would be saying very little as opposed to a little)

 

2-yes

 

3 Tuvalet nerede,lütfen?    {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

5.       Melek74
1506 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:39 pm

Have you ever heard the "One Semester of Spanish Love Song"? It´s hilarious. Here´s the YouTube link to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngRq82c8Baw; it is for Spanish, but I´m sure one could as easily be made about Turkish or any other language .

6.       maryilyons
153 posts
 28 Nov 2008 Fri 01:40 pm

That was great!  But while I watching it I realized I´ve never taken a Spanish class, but after traveling in Spain for six weeks, I understood more Spanish in that song that I do after studying Turkish almost every night for six weeks!

 

Teþekküler!

7.       Iskenderunli
36 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 05:18 pm

´WC nerede, lutfen´ - and wait for them to point the way!

 

Pronounce WC - Ve Çe (Je) - in voice Ve Çe (Je) - yokmu, Turkler?

8.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 05:41 pm

 

Quoting Iskenderunli

´WC nerede, lutfen´ - and wait for them to point the way!

 

Pronounce WC - Ve Çe (Je) - in voice Ve Çe (Je) - yokmu, Turkler?

 

Why would you ask for W.C. in Turkish?  How would a Turk understand this as it stands for water closet?

9.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 06:01 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Why would you ask for W.C. in Turkish?  How would a Turk understand this as it stands for water closet?

 

If you say WC in english just a few person will understand it , if you prefer ve ce (not ve çe) many Turk will understand it. 

 

But if i were you i would prefer tuvalet or lavabo.   Tuvalet nerde ? Lavabo nerde? (If you wanna be polite (!!) you should prefer lavabo)

 

We Turks have lots of words for toilet. Nearly 12

10.       lesluv
722 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 06:04 pm

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

If you say WC in english just a few person will understand it , if you prefer ve ce (not ve çe) many Turk will understand it. 

 

But if i were you i would prefer tuvalet or lavabo.   Tuvalet nerde ? Lavabo nerde? (If you wanna be polite (!!) you should prefer lavabo)

 

We Turks have lots of words for toilet. Nearly 12

 

 I find crossing my legs, jumping up and down with a pained expression on my face normally works{#lang_emotions_razz}

11.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 06:05 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 I find crossing my legs, jumping up and down with a pained expression on my face normally works{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

The best way

12.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 06:05 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 I find crossing my legs, jumping up and down with a pained expression on my face normally works{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 How old are you???   5??       lol lol lol

13.       lesluv
722 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 06:11 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 How old are you???   5??       lol lol lol

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} mental age...probably!!

14.       Irishclove
111 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 07:13 pm

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

If you say WC in english just a few person will understand it , if you prefer ve ce (not ve çe) many Turk will understand it. 

 

But if i were you i would prefer tuvalet or lavabo.   Tuvalet nerde ? Lavabo nerde? (If you wanna be polite (!!) you should prefer lavabo)

 

We Turks have lots of words for toilet. Nearly 12

 

 12, Why?????????{#lang_emotions_wtf}

15.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 07:16 pm

 

Quoting Irishclove

 12, Why?????????{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

 

Who knows Maybe we dont like this word so we always change it ehehe

 

 

16.       Irishclove
111 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 07:19 pm

 

Quoting maryilyons

That was great!  But while I watching it I realized I´ve never taken a Spanish class, but after traveling in Spain for six weeks, I understood more Spanish in that song that I do after studying Turkish almost every night for six weeks!

 

Teþekküler!

 

 besides English I´ve learned six other languages by the age of 18.  I think is going to take me 10 years to learn turkish.  Just when I think i´ve got it, I just realize nope I do  not.  It is a little odd for me, so many things are implied which should make it simpler but, not for me. {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

{#lang_emotions_cry} So I kind of know how you feel.

17.       sonunda
5004 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 07:21 pm

 

Quoting Irishclove

 12, Why?????????{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

 You could probably find 12 in English too if you thought about it.

18.       insallah
1277 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 07:34 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

 You could probably find 12 in English too if you thought about it.

 lol i got to 9

 

Where is the ......

WC

Toilet

Loo

Bog

Washroom

Lavatory

Lav

Ladies/ Gents

powder room

 

Yes people i am bored and have far to much time on my hands {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

Edit..+ one more  - dunny

19.       sonunda
5004 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:01 pm

Well done insallah!

 

Plus   head

         john

even bathroom

 

Also historically ´crapper´

 

Any advance on 14!

20.       insallah
1277 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:14 pm

never heard of head before well not in this context anyway{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

As for my previous "Dunny" i checked the spelling to be sure on the sites dictionary(dyslexic on board) and it tells me that in english it means stupid and deaf..... this is very wrong ha ha how confusing for the learners. perhaps dummy is better

 

we will have people wanting to call someone stupid but saying toilet instead

21.       sonunda
5004 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:17 pm

 

Quoting insallah

never heard of head before wel not in this context anyway{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

As for my previous "Dunny" i checked the spelling to be sure on the sites dictionary(dyslexic on board and it tells me that in english it means stupid and deaf.....surely this is wrong ha ha how confusing for the learners. perhaps dummy is better

 

we will have people wanting to call someone stupid but saying toilet instead

 

 ´head´ is what they call it on a boat.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070307051922AAFRWyV

22.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:21 pm

 

Quoting insallah

never heard of head before well not in this context anyway{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

As for my previous "Dunny" i checked the spelling to be sure on the sites dictionary(dyslexic on board) and it tells me that in english it means stupid and deaf..... this is very wrong ha ha how confusing for the learners. perhaps dummy is better

 

we will have people wanting to call someone stupid but saying toilet instead

 

 

Stop it!  ´Head´ is what they call the toilets in the navy.

Dunny is Australian

Another old-fashioned word is ´privy´  also ´karzi´ (not sure of spelling)

´Little girl´s room´/´Little boy´s room

 

23.       sonunda
5004 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:26 pm

(khazi)

24.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 08:31 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

(khazi)

 

 Yeh - that´s what I thought originally but couldn´t find it and after I posted I looked it up and got this:

 

Karzi [karsey, karsy] noun: British Slang. lavatory, bathroom, where women congregate and talk. (Source: Ye olde cockney bloke.)
Then I found it your way as well!  It´s not a really a word a LAAADEEE would use anyway is it?!  lollol

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