I don't think so because US hiphop industry has already reached the bottom. Think of the lyrics of 50cent and so on.

I don't know Meltem. Yes, we like criticizing American Pop Culture, Hollywood movies that are perfectly suited for 14 year olds, and the ipod generation but it's time to look at ourselves.

These lyrics are so bad it would be unjustice to compare them to 50 Cent. I think İsmail YK would win hands down in meaningless lyrics even against Vanilla Ice or Samantha Fox. Btw, I think 50 Cent's or Eminem's rhythms are not so bad. I don't listen to them and I don't like the lifestyle they are representing but I don't dislike them.

Being not sophisticated enough to understand the details is not so annoying I think. Trying to be cool while being not equipped accordingly looks childish to me and I might mind it funny sometimes. In other words, it can be entertaining when somebody tries to be cool by the terms defined by the Western popular culture. I don't hate them.

But those Turkish pop musicians are not at this stage. They are only fakes of those artists-likes. Their existence is a total misunderstanding. They are wannabees of "trying to be cool" folks.

I need some time and good music to calm down a bit.

What bothers me the most, above all else, is that we, as Turkish people, are losing our culture to this nonsense ghetto crap we have come to think is "cool". I remember a time when relationships were a serious thing, or when maidenhood meant something, or when people listened to music b/c they liked it, but not b/c they think if they listen to a certain type of music "other" people will think they're cool. And this dumb way of trying to pick up foreign words and using them as if they're our own. People in the streets going "rispekt!" or "bekgraund" or "refuze" .. these are not "our" way. We shouldn't be drawn to these. The same with the music. The Turkish people have seen how so many mindless sheep-like American teenagers are drawn to crap lyrics of Eminem, 50 cents or Little John, and they think "Oh, so people like this shit, maybe I should distort my own music to be more like theirs, this way I'll get more listeners" .. It's really sad and dissapointing .. The Turkey I knew, the Turkey I grew up in is slowly, but surely, fading away .... and the more people listen to this, and buy more and more albums, it is going to continue ...

Erem,

but how do Türkler think that way,if they already attract,people ,i mean foreigner people by their music,and the magic hidded inside,it is a mixed music,represent the mixed culture with its beauty

A song like Sen gelmez oldun
Or Mihriban is a real beauty,in the meaning of the words,or in the music

Kayahan,Nilüfer,Rafet El roman,Güly,Ebru gündeş,Sibel Can,Özcan Deniz,sezen aksu....and more and more

Their songs can be compared to others ??

Even Fun songs are great,i really like those songs ,Gerçekleri Tarih Yazar, Cimbom Galatasaray,from Galatasaray 100.YIL Albümü

Well,i am a Galatasaray fan tho ,,lol

Neyse,
İf we want to listen to this ..this...'crap sry'it is really available

But what is unique is the Türk Müziği

Didn't they even study economy ??

Much difference between what is common and what is rare

Unbelievable !!!

It unfortunately is a human treat to take what he's got for granted and be attracted to what he doesn't have. I just hope we don't lose ourselves completely. ^_^ But you know what, I would still take the mettled Turkey over the value-ignorant Americans any day

P.S.: I'm not prejudiced over America. I just don't like its people ^_^ the land's magnificent; only if we could cleanse it of the dumb cowboys who live on it.
i.e: George W. Bush

Erem,

Thank you very much Erem

What about a very famous song in holland now!

"Lief klein konijntje had een vliegje op zijn neus
Lief klein konijntje had een vliegje op zijn neus
Lief klein konijntje had een vliegje op zijn neus
En hij zoemde heen en weer"

Translation:

"sweet little bunny had a fly on his nose
sweet little bunny had a fly on his nose
sweet little bunny had a fly on his nose..
and it was buzzing all around"

Isn't that sweeeet? (And yeah these are all the lyrics of a 3 minute-song )

hehehe Saskia, i really never heard that song... maybe its from kindergarden??

But what do you think about the song een toppertje?
Its just as bad as the songs from YK i think..

Daar aan de Costa Brava zag ik je lopen
En ik ben eerlijk je zag er lekker uit
Ik zei: Moppie ga je met me dansen
Ik ben de slagroom, ben jij het stukkie fruit

There at Costa Brava i saw you walking
And im honoust, you looked delicious
I said: Honey will you go dancing with me
Iam the whipped cream, you are the piece of fruit

Doe mij een toppertje en een breezer ananas
En doe er ook maar een dubbele wiskey bij
Want vanavond gaan alle remmen los
En we dansen en springen, zijn zo blij

Give me a toppertje (i dont even know what is a toppertje?)
And a breezer Pinneaple
And also put in a dubble Whiskey
cause tonight we will loose all our breaks
And we are dancing and jumping, so happy.

And like this they are going on for 6 horrible minutes... And they jumped to the top 5 in one week or so... Ducth people are strange

hi may i join the conversation? hope you wont start hating me if i tell i like ismayl yk...his songs just makes me dance. espesially "Döktür" "cicilerini" and "bomba bomba"

and about bomba bomba`s lyrics....you cant deny that this is the way youths do today.everybody has skype or msn and web cam. and searches beauties in the net.by the way turkish men are really active in this