i know..... the locusts are coming!!!

Don´t forget about frogs! Luckily for me they´re unlikely to trudge through sno...ribbit...ribbit

 First, i decided not to respond to these posts, but i cant stand hypocracy really...

What a fair comment!!That post was racist for sure, trying to show all muslims as taliban terrorists. I dont know why its still there and what its aim rather than provoking.

If talibans are following the rules of Islam, the what others doing? Did Islam begin to differ after 2001? Then all states whose citizens follow Islam throughout the history, were all terrorist sates. What an expression "taliban thinks they are at war and this is jihad..." like "US thinks they are at war with Islamic states and this is crusade for them and they are following the rules of judeo-christianity in purest form." The thing you and DD cannot perceive, all of this are mainly political.

 , if theirs were political just about money, then what taliban doing is also political because they dont want foreign soldiers  in Afghanistan and they want the country to be ruled with their perverted mentality, simply they want power & government which is political too, just they use religion to collect fans like west using anti-Islam propogand to collect fans.

Your perspective is excellent, labelling everyone who follows Islam as taliban terrorists. What a perspective of hatres this is!!

So what? I can say the same thing by the side of muslims. If all muslims like taliban, for sure they have now 2 billion of fans and millions of soldiers but not.  And as i said before if you blame Islam the whole religion, so dont surprised that when somebody blamed the whole west politics who are mainly christian states.

 Your comment was racist and provoking simply...

Oh yeah, bad twisting for sure, you first put all muslims in the same bag with taliban then you restricted this to only a bunch of mental goat-shaggers. And you expect us to swallow this hypocracy, so then im right, your post proved racist and provoking rather than sarcastic.

Ohh really? We saw the invaders in Iraq who killed millions of people, they were very good at bombing mosques, raping women, torturing people and it seems they were very proud of this. So you can say they are not christians ok then im saying Taliban has nothing to do with Islam. Hmmm maybe those invaders then irreligious like you as you dont want them to be related with christianity, they killed lots of muslims, then you can be proud of them.  They cleared those religous muslim insects, didnt they? You should be happy.

What a generosity!! Then there were no radicals using Islam in middle ages or before 2001. Hmmm i wonder where were those radicals? Maybe they fell into world after 2001.

On a Dutch forum (sorry, no English link) I read this: People reject 50 TL bank notes with the picture of Fatma Aliye Haným (the only woman on bank notes) because ´she´s a woman!´

How ´modern´ is Turkey when things like that still happen? (A group on Facebook  called ´I don´t want this woman on my money´ already has 160.000 members - so it´s not just a few who think like this!)

people dont want that money not bacuse Fatma Aliye was a woman but because she was hostile to Ataturk.

you again proved how low your countrymen can get. You could have at least checked out that facebook group before posting to see what their point is.

How modern is your beloved country with all these nazi scums?

What you missed out is the fact that I did not put all Muslims in one bag, au contraire - I commented on how radicals make the world perceive Islam. If you find that comment racist, fine by me, I´m not ashamed to call anybody who murders people hostile. If you consider Talibans peaceful farmers then perhaps you should read more about them.

It´s not close to truth to say that the US is a Christian country on religious crusade in Iraq, don´t omit to see the difference - all Talibs are Muslim, not all Americans are Christian. The US does not have an alias "The Christian States of America" while Taliban regime was also known as "Islamic Emirate of Aghanistan" (quoting after Wikipedia). Also do I have to elaborate on how Muslims are free to practise their religion anywhere in what you call Christian countries but Talibans were not fans of religious freedom? Still seeing Talibans as having nothing to do with religion in contrast to the US? Then how about the US law standing in opposition to Christian rules? Abortion etc?

True about Talibans wanting power - but it is power to introduce religious dictatorship. The US, however unlawfully and revolting actions they took invading Iraq, do not want to introduce poor pagans to Christianity by means of decapitation. It is about power and dominance from both sides for sure, but whilst Talibans are about religion, the US is not.

As for me seeing all Muslims the same as Talibans - that´s not true and I wrote it quite clearly, sorry if you werent able to interpret my words although they were quite straightforward. I´m not going to prove that I´m not a camel to you.

Again, I´m not proud of what the US and UN did in Iraq or Afghanistan, or in Bosnia for that matter. You still haven;´t answered my question - how come the western army that you want to believe is Christian is composed of people of many religions? That must shatter your idea of the "bed Christian west"

I have no idea where Islamic radicals were - I just commented that if we compare religious radicals these days, Islamic ones are way more violent.

 Well I think the word I used was "idiot".  It is easy for me to check this because, although my post was deleted (I don´t care) Tam kindly quoted me, so it is there for all to see. Thanks Tam .

  Actually, I find "stupid" and "idiot" very strong words .  They´re not words I particularly like, so for me they aren´t so "light".  Well it upset Tam anyway.

I agree with you..I would not want to use those straight away either.

But sometimes, there is no other way to respond really..!

I said fair comment because, she was pointing at the harsh parts of Islam and she was right. I think her comment should stay as it is

What others doing? of course they are not following the  orders of Qur <[script] src="../../js/tiny_mce/themes/advanced/langs/en.js" type="text/javascript"> an..

Basically, islamic doctrine in Turkey is a not as the same as the doctrine in which Taliban believes (thanks god)...

You can not accuse Taliban as non-muslims because they are following the rules of Quran. But they can accuse you for not being  muslim enough (which I know they do! ).. 

How?  

are you living with sheria? NO...

Are you fighting for sheria? NO.

Do you wish to live with sheria? NO (you may say yes but then you will be betraying to Turkey)

Sheria is the ultime doctrine Quran says you should live with!! You have no choice!! You got to follow..

You can NOT question it..can you?

But you prefer  not to follow..do you NOT? 

So.. stop trying to put barrier between Islam and what Taliban is doing!

(did We NOT talk about this before btw?)..

And why is Islam in Turkey is different?

Well it is another story..

We have a country that has been between the west and the east.. We have influenced the west and the west has influenced us for many centuries.. We have lived with so many different kaffirs for many many years..

The tolerance become part of Anatolian people´s character ...

Although many wont like to hear that but "our version" of Islam is much more peaceful and more different than most of the middle east and eastern countries..

 For Taliban, I dont think it matters to be fighting for Afghanistan or not..

They are fighting for religion..That is the part of reason how you could find many taliban members in Iraq, in Checenya, Bosnia etc..

They are fighting for what they believe.. 

Im not missing anything. I just showed your hypocracy. Thats not about how they make the world perceive Islam, thats about how western media want to perceive Islam and my post is about how you perceive Islam. And of course taliban is helping them as well as US helping talibans. Islam is nobody’s monopoly. Nobody here approves what taliban has been doing by a difference that people like you try to show them as they are the real representatives of Islam and provoking people. Thats what make people to hate eachother. And you are one of the clear example of this provocateurs.

You yourself call them as christian countries and still asking me why do i call them christians? Let me explain because citizens of those countries are mainly christians, its not important if they follow christianity or not and who said Talibans are real muslims except themselves and western media? By the way what this has to do with the freedom of religion? We are talking about terrorists(both US and taliban). Turkey is also secular country, and population mostly muslims. Now think about if Turkey to invade and kill christians in a country whose population is mostly christian, then what will people say? For sure theyll say muslim Turks killing christians. In addition taliban is not on all power in Afghanistan, they are also killing Afghan soldiers who call themselves muslims as well. So where do we put this?

So its political of course. Its not important if they use religion or not, both killing human-beings. By the way there is big difference between them, one of them invades countries, other is killing its own people to apply their perverted mentality, actually its their country. Recently i havent seen any Islamic state invading a chrisitian country, on the other hand we witness the contrariwise.

What you write is clear, let me remind “Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is”. So what people understand from this provoking comment? Of course the one i understood, after then you twisted changes nothing. This actually shows your sincerety.

Actually i think irreligous states like US are far more violent than those radicals and thats the one who made them radicals ...

Everybody fights for what they believe thehandsom, dont try to cover the hypocracy of DD...

And you need to learn Islam for sure...