after winning the cup it looks like everything finished now...i feel so empty even though i have lots to do... does it what called being drunk of victory??? hehe
My thoughts..Why are we subjected to such pain in the path of life? If love is so beautiful why does it cause such pain in the heart? Why, even though I can look at the stars and know he's beneath the same sky, can't I understand this situation? There must be a reason for everything that destiny unravels, I must have faith in the love I live by.
after winning the cup it looks like everything finished now...i feel so empty even though i have lots to do... does it what called being drunk of victory??? hehe
which cup you are talking about?
world cup? are you italian?
Do I really see Aslan online or am I hallucinating?
...you are hallucinating, kaplan! I am still offline...or at least that is how I feel... :-S
...did you miss me so much you started hallucinating?
...naaaaaaah, just kidding...I am back! ...for good! ...and I bet that will make cyrano shiver!
...EHI!
Everyone knows that saying "Oh-I-too-miss-you-all-much-and-thus-came-back" is nothing but an excuse! The fact is that you miss nothing but my whip itself-its sound, its traces, its violence, its giving pain! To be honest with you, my whip feels the same. It misses you much. So, my friend Aslan, welcome back to it!
Do I really see Aslan online or am I hallucinating?
...you are hallucinating, kaplan! I am still offline...or at least that is how I feel... :-S
...did you miss me so much you started hallucinating?
...naaaaaaah, just kidding...I am back! ...for good! ...and I bet that will make cyrano shiver!
...EHI!
Everyone knows that saying "Oh-I-too-miss-you-all-much-and-thus-came-back" is nothing but an excuse! The fact is that you miss nothing but my whip itself-its sound, its traces, its violence, its giving pain! To be honest with you, my whip feels the same. It misses you much. So, my friend Aslan, welcome back to it!
Ehi!
...oh cyrano, I am not sure you realize how bad this sounds! ...and yes, yes, yes, you are so right...it is your whip that I have missed...just borrow it to me and I will let you know how it feels, honey!
The fact is that you miss nothing but my whip itself-its sound, its traces, its violence, its giving pain! To be honest with you, my whip feels the same. It misses you much.
Thinking...as soon as Aslan appears, men are driven wild. How on earth does she do that and I can't?
The fact is that you miss nothing but my whip itself-its sound, its traces, its violence, its giving pain! To be honest with you, my whip feels the same. It misses you much.
Thinking...as soon as Aslan appears, men are driven wild. How on earth does she do that and I can't?
you are driving one of them wild... isnt it enough for you?
The fact is that you miss nothing but my whip itself-its sound, its traces, its violence, its giving pain! To be honest with you, my whip feels the same. It misses you much.
Thinking...as soon as Aslan appears, men are driven wild. How on earth does she do that and I can't?
...hey, kaplan, don´t be so humble...I bet you are just as capable as this old has-seen-better-days lioness! ...but if you lack a whip I suggest long claws...that always seems to work...rrrrrrrooooooaaaaarrrrr...one way or the other!
if you lack a whip I suggest long claws...that always seems to work...
I ate my...claws recently and at the sex shop accross the street, they told me that they just run out of whips. I m afraid I m sentenced to a normal routine life without wild men around me. Of offff...
Today, all day long, I thought, though didn't know why, how wise and well Nietzsche indicated a fact about women-
"You go to woman? Do not forget your whip!"
Today, all day long, I thought this, though didn't know why. I have tried to drive it out of my mind, hard as I have tried to, it didn't leave my mind; what is more, it has echoed in my mind all the time, all day long- "You go to woman? Do not forget your whip!" And I thought how wise he was, how wise he showed us a fact about women!
Oooh do you take credit cards? (By the way, you can only take a whip to my sweet lioness friend if you are a zillionaire !)
...hehe...thank you, sweetie! ...but I will actually be glad to whip Cyrano with his own whip, no matter how poor he is...and I will do it for free, just for him!
Oooh do you take credit cards? (By the way, you can only take a whip to my sweet lioness friend if you are a zillionaire !)
...hehe...thank you, sweetie! ...but I will actually be glad to whip Cyrano with his own whip, no matter how poor he is...and I will do it for free, just for him!
Hahahaha! You are killing me Aslan! Hahahaha! will whip me for free, just for me, huh? Hahahahaha! Aslan, my dear friend, don't you still know whipping is my first and foremost profession? I am specialized in whipping, you should have known this from yourself. Just look at your body, see the whip-traces on it, and you will admit how much I am right!
...I agree, tonight will be fine, cyrano! ...consider it a deal...or should we call it a date??! ...I will whip you until you beg for mercy! ...and I doubt you are up to whipping anything but cream!
...I agree, tonight will be fine, cyrano! ...consider it a deal...or should we call it a date??! ...I will whip you until you beg for mercy! ...and I doubt you are up to whipping anything but cream!
If only you were next to me and I had whipped you right now! You would see who begs for the another's mercy!
...anyway...I am thinking that in about two weeks I will be in Turkey...for two whole weeks...whipping the worm out of cyrano!
You are so lucky Aslan, believe me! Within two weeks I will have finished my translation and will be totaly free to whip you during your whole holiday in turkey. What else would you wish, huh? No need thanks, my pleasure!
...still no zillionaires in sight? ...does this mean a poor tiger and a poor lioness will have to take care of themselves?
Yes canım, no zillionaires in sight yet Not even that mamav we were desperately looking for.
As you can see, I m trying to build up a reasonable budget for my holidays, by writing my thoughts here and begging for my two pennies.
...anyway...I am thinking that in about two weeks I will be in Turkey...for two whole weeks...whipping the worm out of cyrano!
You are so lucky Aslan, believe me! Within two weeks I will have finished my translation and will be totaly free to whip you during your whole holiday in turkey. What else would you wish, huh? No need thanks, my pleasure!
Oh god, let people talk in the off topic and look what they come up with heheheh... I see some patterns though... .
Anyways, Aslan - did you go to Turkey again?
Sophie - are you going to Turkey again?
Aenigma - are you still here?
Deli kızın - kisses .
and Cyrano... - can you explain your 'whip theory' again? Maybe it just sounds weird and you actually have a point .
Wow!!!! Catwoman!!!! I haven´t seen you online for ages! Please don´t go away again! I have missed you soooo much! ...and yes, I went to Turkey again. I came back from Alanya sunday evening. So now the men of southern Turkey can stop trembling... ...for now!
I am afraid Aenigma can no longer hear your voice and respond to anyone. What is lamentable is that she has been for long time the late lamented. I regret that I whipped her hard. Now I somehow feel guilty, but don't know why.
I am afraid Aenigma can no longer hear your voice and respond to anyone. What is lamentable is that she has been for long time the late lamented. I regret that I whipped her hard. Now I somehow feel guilty, but don't know why.
Ehi!
Yes, be sure we will never glimpse, espy or spot her again for she languishes in her cyber dungeon, lamenting her temerity. Her name is fated to be uttered in hushed whispers and will remain an example to all who yield to the temptations of mischievous deeds. Yet, lament your whipping Cyrano, for the once-whipped doth whip harder EHI!
I am afraid Aenigma can no longer hear your voice and respond to anyone. What is lamentable is that she has been for long time the late lamented. I regret that I whipped her hard. Now I somehow feel guilty, but don't know why.
Ehi!
Yes, be sure we will never glimpse, espy or spot her again for she languishes in her cyber dungeon, lamenting her temerity. Her name is fated to be uttered in hushed whispers and will remain an example to all who yield to the temptations of mischievous deeds. Yet, lament your whipping Cyrano, for the once-whipped doth whip harder EHI!
Dear Madam Sine Nomine,
Please accept this post as an expression of my gratitude to you.
Madam Nomine,
This is the first time I have espied the word "espy" and learned it thanks to you. From now on I wish I often espy it. In a manner of speaking you taught me that word, and I am ready to be your slave for some 40 years, for you tought me a word. However I cannot guarentee that as your slave I will not spend 40 years without whipping you.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I would welcome the opportunity to provide my skills of whipping to you. I looking forward to your reply.
Wow!!!! Catwoman!!!! I haven´t seen you online for ages! Please don´t go away again! I have missed you soooo much! ...and yes, I went to Turkey again. I came back from Alanya sunday evening. So now the men of southern Turkey can stop trembling... ...for now!
Hi Cathrine , I didn't go anywhere... well, maybe just for a little while . I'm just very busy these days with medical school. Life is tough when you're a med student (and you're wondering how long it will stay this way .
Please accept this post as an expression of my gratitude to you.
Madam Nomine,
This is the first time I have espied the word "espy" and learned it thanks to you. From now on I wish I often espy it. In a manner of speaking you taught me that word, and I am ready to be your slave for some 40 years, for you tought me a word. However I cannot guarentee that as your slave I will not spend 40 years without whipping you.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I would welcome the opportunity to provide my skills of whipping to you. I looking forward to your reply.
Yours faitfully,
Cyrano.
Dear Monsieur de Bergerac
I was enchanted to espy your missive and delighted to know that you have added "espy" to your burgeoning vocabulary. It is a pleasure to assist you and to introduce you to such wonderful, forgotten and ill used words, particulary in view of your alacrity in assisting in translations.
Notwithstanding, I feel a degree of compunction in continuing with this engaging and congenial correspondence, as am doubtful of it's universal interest in Off Topic and I am ever mindful of causing disgruntlement in these hallowed halls of earnest scholarship.
I must decline your kind offer of servage, tempting though it was, as I have no wish to subjugate you and moveover, no desire for another thrashing.
I was enchanted to espy your missive and delighted to know that you have added "espy" to your burgeoning vocabulary. It is a pleasure to assist you and to introduce you to such wonderful, forgotten and ill used words, particulary in view of your alacrity in assisting in translations.
Notwithstanding, I feel a degree of compunction in continuing with this engaging and congenial correspondence, as am doubtful of it's universal interest in Off Topic and I am ever mindful of causing disgruntlement in these hallowed halls of earnest scholarship.
I must decline your kind offer of servage, tempting though it was, as I have no wish to subjugate you and moveover, no desire for another thrashing.
I am,
Your humble servant,
SineNomine Fortis
Dear Madam Sine Nomine,
By your leave would I love to sincerely thank you for your kind words. More than happy I am to read them.
Madam Nomine,
Such courteous, very very curteous, and polite are your words, please permit me Madam to utter, that your words as well as your language, but not you, did I fall in love, in spite of the fact that they are as beautiful as, as appealing as, as perfect as, as superb as and as blonde as you are. Such a superior language do you use, I must confess, that not even an iota of your words did I understand, which made me be filled with admiration for you. I therefore beg you, Madam, beg you to teach me your language, to teach me how to use words the way you do . Let me, Madam, let me be your slave for ever.
Your big admirer,
Cyrano de Bergerac
(The greatest musketeer around)
By your leave would I love to sincerely thank you for your kind words. More than happy I am to read them.
Madam Nomine,
Such courteous, very very curteous, and polite are your words, please permit me Madam to utter, that your words as well as your language, but not you, did I fall in love, in spite of the fact that they are as beautiful as, as appealing as, as perfect as, as superb as and as blonde as you are. Such a superior language do you use, I must confess, that not even an iota of your words did I understand, which made me be filled with admiration for you. I therefore beg you, Madam, beg you to teach me your language, to teach me how to use words the way you do . Let me, Madam, let me be your slave for ever.
Your big admirer,
Cyrano de Bergerac
(The greatest musketeer around)
Ahhhh, Madam!... Any teaching, including beating, that will comes from you are welcome! Ahhh, Madam, life is so beautiful....
Offfffffff!
Unfortunately, I DO have to say how amazing your English has become Cyrano. To write in such a style, as your second language, is an achievement indeed. Aferin Sana!
Now..off with you offffff! And don't expect ANYMORE compliments! EVER!
...you settle down, kaplan? ...what is wrong, lan? :-S
...you are so right, sophie mou, I disappoint myself...so many moons has passed and no zillionaires in sight... ...but if you settle down for a while and the evil mod is offline...then I just might have a chance: AAALLLLPPPPPPPHHHHAAAAAAFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to get started. Studying, exercising, dieting, saving.... All those things I promised to start 'on Monday'.
Offff I feel tired alredy. I need a lie down. I didn't say which Monday, did I?
Hahaha Funny as ever ha?
Well, I did get started.. and I went to see my doctor's to get vaccinated for Türkiye (Dutch organisations advice to getvaccinated if you go for a period longer than 3 months). So I was thinking I would just get ONE vaccine, as I needed Hepatite B.
Well I was WRONG. I needed a repetition of Difteria, Tetanus and Polio (one vaccine), one against Salmonella Typhi.. and the Hepatite B exists of THREE needles!! BLEH!
I'm filled with vaccines now! And the three B vaccines go with a month period in between.. so before I go another one.. and a month after arrival again!!
I wish I didn't get started today And tomorrow I'm going to my dentist.
Ohh I promise I'll do the windows while Elisa is ironing if only I could get away from the rain here too. And.. NO needles.
I am thinking, I wish I was back in Turkia instead of sitting in a freezing cold house shivering because it is not sunny and the boiler has decided it doesn't want to work
im thinking what the hell made me do this?? and then...it was great to try it....i did the right thing.....and climbing up the steps hardly but alon...its good...im learning many thing about life... thank u daddy,mummy and you for giving me this chance
I m quite optimistic about that. Autumn is here, summer loves will soon be forgotten, translation requests will decrease, people will get back to their old routines and we will ride the forums again, spoiling every single thread
I m quite optimistic about that. Autumn is here, summer loves will soon be forgotten, translation requests will decrease, people will get back to their old routines and we will ride the forums again, spoiling every single thread
Hehehe ! Perhaps I should prepare a new name for when Bod "removes me" hehe!
Autumn is here, summer loves will soon be forgotten, translation requests will decrease, people will get back to their old routines and we will ride the forums again, spoiling every single thread
Doesn't she rule!!!
A Turkish teacher overhere once told me that he can see how well the "Turkish resort boys" performed in summer by the amount of students he has in his evening class in September...
Kadir was on the way from Ankara back home and usually he sends me a text in the bus-break and when he gets home. But I didn't egt any text at all today and his phone was off so I was gettin worried!! So I decided to text his mum in crappy Turkish!! And like.. 10 minutes later Kadir text that he forgot his charger but that everythin was ok and blahblahblah!!
I did receive a text back from his mum, but is till feel embarrassed. Now I look like a massive control freak!! Which I am!! BLEHHH!!
I'm bored today . Any suggestions? I have tried my usual tricks of sticking my bosses phone to the base with blue-tac and then ringing it, talking to clients in a French accent and then suddenly changing it to a German accent halfway though the conversation and have even resorted to working occasionally, but nothing is helping
I'm bored today . Any suggestions? I have tried my usual tricks of sticking my bosses phone to the base with blue-tac and then ringing it, talking to clients in a French accent and then suddenly changing it to a German accent halfway though the conversation and have even resorted to working occasionally, but nothing is helping
HAHAHAH.
I'm bored too and the weather here (grey and rainy) is not really helping. But tonight tehre's Grey's Anatomy and Gilmore Girls on telly here, so at least I got a point of light to look forward to today
I should be sorting my music-sheets for Turkey now.. but I haven't played for so long that I don't think I can play any of them anymore
Feeling sad . It feels like all the good-will, friendship and respect we had for eachother on this site has been tainted these last few weeks. The most open minded, free thinking people are being forced to defend themselves and their beliefs. It is hard to not let extreme opinions affect you. If you are judged..you start to judge back...
Feeling sad . It feels like all the good-will, friendship and respect we had for eachother on this site has been tainted these last few weeks. The most open minded, free thinking people are being forced to defend themselves and their beliefs. It is hard to not let extreme opinions affect you. If you are judged..you start to judge back...
İ's life,and here is part of life too,so its normal to see extremes !
But its sad when you let the extremes rule,its sad when to let them win aenigma .
İt's not easy,and i know it,it tastes bitter,i've been there,and sadly saw it here too !
Just take a deep breath,say,No,i am on the right,and i WON'T let them get into me,i won't be same !
raining here... did u send it to me and i want my 2 pennies now....
Hehe! Sorry Sanja ! Yes you can have your two pennies - offf I didn't realise I would have to pay everyone when I started this thread! No more posts here please, I need to save my pennies for something special
Hehe! Sorry Sanja ! Yes you can have your two pennies - offf I didn't realise I would have to pay everyone when I started this thread! No more posts here please, I need to save my pennies for something special
Hehe! Sorry Sanja ! Yes you can have your two pennies - offf I didn't realise I would have to pay everyone when I started this thread! No more posts here please, I need to save my pennies for something special
maybe we need to pay....its ur thread....
Hmmmm yes, you are right ! ok ok the new name of this thread is..... £1000 FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
Great post Aenigma!. We are one big happy family again, thank goodness.
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
i guess the NORMAL for TC refers the joy and excitement of this site so worry not... as long as its NORMAL its good
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
I would do if your mother tongue hadn't limited me!
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
I would do if your mother tongue hadn't limited me!
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
i guess the NORMAL for TC refers the joy and excitement of this site so worry not... as long as its NORMAL its good
Oh, my dear friend Sui, the problem is exactly this-"NORM-AL"!
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
I would do if your mother tongue hadn't limited me!
Hmm, what do you mean? :-S
Yaa, gördün mü bak-I turned up to be right in what I have told. You see, even I couldn't succeed in expressing "English restricts me". Instead I said someting else that, now I see, didn't make any sense.
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
I would do if your mother tongue hadn't limited me!
Hmm, what do you mean? :-S
Yaa, gördün mü bak-I turned up to be right in what I have told. You see, even I couldn't succeed in implying "English" by saying "your mother tongue".
I didn't want to assume that is what you meant, so I asked for clarification. It seems you know English pretty well. So I just suggested you post something exciting, if you are bored.
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
I would do if your mother tongue hadn't limited me!
Hmm, what do you mean? :-S
Yaa, gördün mü bak-I turned up to be right in what I have told. You see, even I couldn't succeed in implying "English" by saying "your mother tongue".
I didn't want to assume that is what you meant, so I asked for clarification. It seems you know English pretty well. So I just suggested you post something exciting, if you are bored.
Sorry. I modified my above post. Sorry again. The previous version was meaningless. Sorry.
• Joey is being the perfect gentleman (as usual)
• Bod is jealous of Sophie’s skirt and trying to better it with a tutu.
• Teaschip and Libralady are posting their “gemsâ€.
• Susie K is answering every post, luv ya!
• Catwoman is defending women’s rights (go girl!)
• The post she wrote in earlier has been deleted (back to normal – love it!)
• Sophie is making me laugh.
• Sui is posting love songs.
• Robin is happily chatting.
• Caproeira, Derya, Ayla, Deli and Aslan2 are busy translating for everyone.
• Miss Ceyda is using exclamation marks (!!!!)
• Elisa is having fun.
• Cyrano is proposing marriage
• And I am being back writing inane posts like this again
Situation: NORMAL !
(Apologies to anyone I missed )
So, now is a good time to say everything is again too boring. No excitement, nothing unknowable, no surprise!... but repeats, habits.. like death!
(Ögh! Puking!)
If everything is so boring Cyrano, then post something that will excite all of us.
Hmmmm my thoughts today .... Well... I cannot say in words.... so pictures will have to do, and you can work it out!!!
Got up this morning feeling Got to work Started off busy and now :-S Oh boring. When I'm bored, I think about things, and these things get blown out of all proportion and I end up feeling like So, my day started and now it's ... anyone got any good jokes? Rude or tame.... I'm not fussy
1000 lives would not be enough for me to explain how much I love him, I cannot fathom where the path of life will lead us but I hope that he'll be by my side until the end. I miss him, but I cannot always know his heart. All I can do is look at his photograph and thank god that I'm blessed to know this man, even though oceans separate us.
Hmmmm my thoughts today .... Well... I cannot say in words.... so pictures will have to do, and you can work it out!!!
Got up this morning feeling Got to work Started off busy and now :-S Oh boring. When I'm bored, I think about things, and these things get blown out of all proportion and I end up feeling like So, my day started and now it's ... anyone got any good jokes? Rude or tame.... I'm not fussy
I love this. We should have a thread just for smilies ! How was your smiley day hehe! Mine went something like this...
Woke up feeling Dark and raining outside
Got to work :-S another boring day to come
Leaving work early today to go to the dentist Hopefully my fiance will be back online tonight after 3 days eating, boozing and parties
Why can't I spell today? I keep writing posts so quickly, the smoke is coming off the keyboard, then I read them and notice glaring spooling mishtakes. Wot ish happoninging two mee?
What did we used to do at work before the internet and email?
Work? Nah!
Play Solitaire? Ermmm sometimes
Make up new tricks to play on the boss? Ermm occasionally
Anyone remember?
-Non stop chat and teasing with the co-workers (I miss that now that everybody is stuck on a pc screen)
-Endless games of solitaire (40 thieves was my favorite )
-Book reading (I was hiding them in the drawer when I was hearing somebody coming up the stairs)
-Non stop chat and teasing with the co-workers (I miss that now that everybody is stuck on a pc screen)
-Endless games of solitaire (40 thieves was my favorite )
-Book reading (I was hiding them in the drawer when I was hearing somebody coming up the stairs)
Yes!! However, I still do the non-stop chat and teasing with my colleagues so that doesn't count!
Yes!! However, I still do the non-stop chat and teasing with my colleagues so that doesn't count!
We do that for the first two hours, between 9:00 and 11:00. Noone is allowed to go to his office, before all the gossip and teasing is done. But then, everybody sits in his armachair and gets lost in work or...internet. 6 hours of teasing and chatting are going wasted, since the internet entered out lifes
Ok, this just occured to me while getting my coffee. Not sure how it is in your country when your in a restaurant and order coffee. Well the individual creamers in the little round plastic containers are a bitch to get open. Like why don't they make the tab a little longer, so you can open the darn thing. Is it just me or does anyone else have this problem?
Hahahaha! You should have posted this in the 'What is bugging you today' thread ! Oh TC, in the scheme of things is such a small problem - but I know how irritating these things can be ! Anyway, its ok for me - I only drink black coffee
Im thinkşng that I want more tea because they go great with the ETİ brownies, but Im too lazy to get up.
Now İm wondering if its a good thing that I am so comfortable that I dont wanan get up, or ıf I should get annoyed because this means I wont get my tea
Bit slow on here today? Where's all the controversy, where's all the fun?
Haha I could shake the place here easily, if I opened my mouth to tell all those that are bugging me HERE today and every day lately, but I think I ll keep my mouth shut for a little longer. Who am I to complain anyway?
(Why do I have the feeling that you understand exactly what I mean, twinny? )
....maybe I should start a thread called "List of Things Wrong with Turkish Boyfriends
Or save us all and start a new thread, called "random thoughts of a bored and insecure person". It would get quite popular and would save us (hopefully) from many boring useless posts.
Bit slow on here today? Where's all the controversy, where's all the fun?
Haha I could shake the place here easily, if I opened my mouth to tell all those that are bugging me HERE today and every day lately, but I think I ll keep my mouth shut for a little longer. Who am I to complain anyway?
(Why do I have the feeling that you understand exactly what I mean, twinny? )
I believe the weather turned nasty again today - perhaps that is the reason??
No there are many reasons. I think I will follow Deli-kizin's example. A lot of us love this site, and lately it feels like having your house trashed
Yeah. I do come back because of the wonderful people I met and because there are still people who give great explanations as Ive become determined to pass the exam in 2 months with high results.. but I dont enjoy it around here as much as I used to..
Maybe not ruined completely yet, but it's very close to.
I'm thinking....
If mods and admins are busy and don't have time to spend on this site, why on earth don't they pass this job to members who would be able to "clean" this place up? We only need a big trash bin to throw a few memberships and a few threads or posts in.
I'm thinking....
If mods and admins are busy and don't have time to spend on this site, why on earth don't they pass this job to members who would be able to "clean" this place up? We only need a big trash bin to throw a few memberships and a few threads or posts in.
+1 I have to agree, even though I am a past 'victim'
OK, just a few examples of why people are upset here lately:-
Turkish Literature Forum - now contains numerous "personal" poems, which although very sweet, have nothing to do with Turkish Literature.
Turkey Forum - contains posts about whether or not you like to have a suntan.
Turkey - News and Announcements Forum - now contains posts which have nothing to do with Turkey, let alone news or announcements.
GENERALLY: Threads are being created all over the place, which have no general use. Even if you want a silly post in Off Topic, why not try to see if an existing thread already exists like "Two Pennies for your Thoughts" or "What made me smile today", or "I wish" - surely most of these posts could fit into these three categories? The forums are about sharing information, about sharing fun, about SHARING. If you post something about how happy you are with yourself today, for example, what can anyone else contribute to it??
The more threads you create, the less meaning and interest they have.
Just a mere observation from coming to this site everyday in the last 9 months. There tends to be little tolerance and patience for people who post topics, opinions etc. I think we tend to take things too personally, myself included. Yes, people should follow the rules, however even when the mods were here daily they were not consistent. I don't like to see anyone's feelings hurt, whether they deserve it or not. Ok, Susan be realistic you can't always turn the other cheek. My gosh, but with so many different personalites and cultures your going to have disagreements etc. But I guess there is this thing called "tact". Some people aren't accustomed to. I just try not to take things so seriously, because when I get home and go to bed the last thing I want to do is dream about "Turkish Class. So I apologize ahead of time if I have offended you or insulted you. I really don't mean it as a personal attack. If you would get to know me from outside of the internet, I am a descent person. I happen to think and hope most of you are. I think we all have gotten carried away at one time or another. Don't get me wrong, I'm not making excuses for peoples behavior,actions etc here. But sometimes email and the internet can be destructive. Think about how many times at work you receive an email that set's you off. I have learned to respond later after I have given more thought to it. Typically, my response is alot different than if I responded right away. So maybe we could start doing that here. Just a suggestion to make this site more successful.
There is something else i've noticed,there is no much interest in learing the language as it used to be !
İ am not an old member too,i've joint 4 monthes ago,but things were different then.
People used to practice the language too,and others contributed for this purpose too.
Now,little who have interest in the language,and in practicing it too.
When was last time we used the Turkish practice Forum,and how often ?!
İt used to be realy a Turkish Language Class,
Now it's a Turkish language class alright,but with lack of both teachers and students !
Hey listen I'm not saying you guys don't have valid points. I'm just trying to figure out a solution. I just know personally when the mods were here daily, there wasn't a consistency either. So, if anyone else has a solution to making this site run smoother, I'm sure your suggestions are welcomed. But who am I?
But I guess there is this thing called 'tact'. Some people aren't accustomed to.
I probably appear as the less tolerant person here. Believe me, I m more petient that you can imagine. Actually I m trying to be even more patient, since the beginning of summer when all this mess started. Im not entitled to save TC, I know. But I ve mentioned many times that I ve had too many good moments to remember from this site and so I would like it to continue. I tried many solutions. I stayed away for long. I ignored the forums except from one or two threads. Then I opened a thread, writing my complaints. Then again I shut my mouth up. And now, Im afraid I can't sut up anymore, or sit back and watch all this nonsense.
Read the posts in this page http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_22_7547_8 and tell me what the heck they have to do with turkish movies! I have hundreds of similar examples to put here. And for heavens sake, I m not against fun. I looove fun. But let it be fun. Not a boring conversation that could be easily made in the chatroom. We have a chatroom after all, don't we??
A few months ago, I think it was last winter, Erdinc had blocked all members from writing in the cultural forums. We were protesting for months, begging him to give the forums back to us and we would use them as they deserved. I really wish Erdinc had never fulfilled our wish. At least they would be safe now...
Again, Sophie I'm not at all disputing your frustrations or concerns. I also agree this site has become less structured. How about we suggest incorporating an application process to all new members. They must fill out an application and pass a background & personality check. Also, you must be at least 18 years of age to join. Not sure how to handle the exsisting members though. Maybe a renewal application every 6 months. What ever the solution is, I don't know or have. Hopefully, however things do change because I would hate to see some of you leave.
Ok,i have an idea,but it won't work unless we all stick to it,
First,we do as Erdiç done before,and post a sticky in each Forum about this,and we may use tough accent as well for it,
We announce that,we won't contribute or share at any thread which is not in its right place,
And for any member who is new or old to stick to that,or else we won't contribute or share in anyone thread which doesn't follow the rules.
We just will shut our mouthes up,not answer,untill this member take the time and the effort,and post the request or the thread in its right place ..
How about that ?
But we must make announcement by this,and make a sticky too in each Forum
So can at least one of the Mods,help us with this ?
Or that too we will have to do ?!
If the site would allow a few more moderators, the posts that are in the wrong place could be just moved couldn't they. I'm sure several of you loyal ones here would do that, become moderators.
Ok,i have an idea,but it won't work unless we all stick to it,
First,we do as Erdiç done before,and post a sticky in each Forum about this,and we may use tough accent as well for it,
We announce that,we won't contribute or share at any thread which is not in its right place,
And for any member who is new or old to stick to that,or else we won't contribute or share in anyone thread which donesn't follow the rules.
We just will shut up,not answer,untill this member take the time and post the request or the thread in its right place ..
How about that ?
But we must make announcement by this,and make a sticky too in each Forum
So can at least one of the Mods,help us with this ?
Or that too we will have to do ?!
What do you all think ?
In an ideal world this would work. But I don't want to be a pessimist and disregard it either. You put alot of thought into this Canli and I am willing to give this a try. I'm not sure how long it will last, but what the heck. Since, this was your idea why don't you send the admin a request here. If it would help even a petition you could start as a topic, then send it to the admin backing up the cause.
Well teaschip,i hope it work,because i don't think we have much to do really,specially Modes are a bit busy,and they are the one who have the authority to set things up,
İ already sent to admin this thread link,so he can read that we are helpless here,but trying,
İ hope he would help .
İ guess,or i don't know,but shouldn't admin,and Modes know what is going on here,that we don't need to gather things up to send to them ?
İ guess they follow things here too,but maybe a little busy to take an action right away,hoping they will do in a bit .
Btw,is it ok to discuss this on this thread ?
All those thought for 2 pennies only ??lol
Seriously now,i will open a new thread at here,called TC ,and we can discuss everything about the site there .
İ will copy and past that idea,so people can see it too,maybe it will work out.
You cross your fingers,and i will raise my 2 hands for doa'praying' ..lol
If the site would allow a few more moderators, the posts that are in the wrong place could be just moved couldn't they.
That's exactly what I was thinking when Teaschip asked for solutions. I know that it will be a hell of a job for the one who will offer to do it, but it would be the most useful thing for now. We have to "clean" all the forums except from the off topic and a maid is needed urgently!
Canli this is a great idea, although I have doubts that it will work. However, I m ready to give it a try. We ll never know unless we try it, right?
Sooooo I won't be mean again, when I ll see a stupid post in the wrong thread, or a stupid thread in the wrong forum. I promise to be a saint with the mouth SHUT!
Is the real issue just that some posts are in the wrong place - or is it more the content of those posts???
It's both. And the worst of all, is the wrong threads in the forums that are supposed to be about Turkia and it's culture. Nobody complains about the off topics. There is our playground. But let's keep the fun there.
Is the real issue just that some posts are in the wrong place - or is it more the content of those posts???
It's both. And the worst of all, is the wrong threads in the forums that are supposed to be about Turkia and it's culture. Nobody complains about the off topics. There is our playground. But let's keep the fun there.
Having read this thread - I have just had a good look around and found a few threads in 'Announcments' that need moving......however, I am not a mod on that forum so cannot move or delete them.
If you see any threads in the wrong place or that you think should be deleteing then please PM me the details. I check TC nearly everyday but rarely if ever look at some of the forums. I may not take the action you suggest but I will look!!!
Canli this is a great idea, although I have doubts that it will work. However, I m ready to give it a try. We ll never know unless we try it, right?
Sooooo I won't be mean again, when I ll see a stupid post in the wrong thread, or a stupid thread in the wrong forum. I promise to be a saint with the mouth SHUT!
Right sophie,we'll give it a try first,then we will see,
But heyyyy,we can still be meanyyy with a sealed lips..lol
We can relpy to the post,with a mouth shut,maybe a dot or exclamation mark,
Well teaschip,i hope it work,because i don't think we have much to do really,specially Modes are a bit busy,and they are the one who have the authority to set things up,
İ already sent to admin this thread link,so he can read that we are helpless here,but trying,
İ hope he would help .
İ guess,or i don't know,but shouldn't admin,and Modes know what is going on here,that we don't need to gather things up to send to them ?
İ guess they follow things here too,but maybe a little busy to take an action right away,hoping they will do in a bit .
Btw,is it ok to discuss this on this thread ?
All those thought for 2 pennies only ??lol
Seriously now,i will open a new thread at here,called TC ,and we can discuss everything about the site there .
İ will copy and past that idea,so people can see it too,maybe it will work out.
You cross your fingers,and i will raise my 2 hands for doa'praying' ..lol
Great idea Canli . Anything is worth a try. And yes, i think I owe you many pennies now
Please forgive me Joey! I must have been at the Bushmills when I wrote that!! I did actually try to remember the Scottish spelling and was too lazy to Google and check!
Anyway, the fact is neither Scotch Whisky nor Irish Whiskey will numb the pain that Man U has inflicted
Please forgive me Joey! I must have been at the Bushmills when I wrote that!! I did actually try to remember the Scottish spelling and was too lazy to Google and check!
Anyway, the fact is neither Scotch Whisky nor Irish Whiskey will numb the pain that Man U has inflicted
No need for despondency aenigma your team are doing well I,ve even stopped calling your keeper "calamity"
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
I need a computer as a whole. Here a good one costs about $1000. Do you tend to donate $5?
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
I need a computer as a whole. Here a good one costs about $1000. Do you tend to donate $5?
Wow, beggers can't be choosers. My computer wasn't even $1000. You can get a complete system for $600.00. Don't you have like a trading post newspaper or the classifieds where people sell things in?
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
I need a computer as a whole. Here a good one costs about $1000. Do you tend to donate $5?
Wow, beggers can't be choosers. My computer wasn't even $1000. You can get a complete system for $600.00. Don't you have like a trading post newspaper or the classifieds where people sell things in?
Who says I want to choose, though I am a begger? What you miss is that here, in Turkey, you cannot get the same complete system for $600 that you can easily get there. Do you still think I am both a begger and a chooser?
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
I need a computer as a whole. Here a good one costs about $1000. Do you tend to donate $5?
Wow, beggers can't be choosers. My computer wasn't even $1000. You can get a complete system for $600.00. Don't you have like a trading post newspaper or the classifieds where people sell things in?
Who says I want to choose, though I am a begger? What you miss is that here, in Turkey, you cannot get the same complete system for $600 that you can easily get there. Do you still think I am a chooser?
Hmm, I didn't realize computers were that expensive in Turkey. How about ordering one online and having it shipped to you, is this an option?
We could start the first TC help organization. The most active 200 members of TC would save just $5 and transfer it into a TC account. We eventually would save some $1000 and thus would be able to get our beloved friend Cyrano a good computer together.
Cyrano, they do make refurbished computers my friend. You should be able to buy one for $300.00 U.S. Dollars. Are you needing just the hard drive or monitor or both?
I need a computer as a whole. Here a good one costs about $1000. Do you tend to donate $5?
Wow, beggers can't be choosers. My computer wasn't even $1000. You can get a complete system for $600.00. Don't you have like a trading post newspaper or the classifieds where people sell things in?
Who says I want to choose, though I am a begger? What you miss is that here, in Turkey, you cannot get the same complete system for $600 that you can easily get there. Do you still think I am a chooser?
Hmm, I didn't realize computers were that expensive in Turkey. How about ordering one online and having it shipped to you, is this an option?
Who are Muse anyway and what league do they play in?
*** SLAPS JOEY ***
Go and download some Muse Joey - you might like their music.....and even if you don't like it, you should be able to apprieciate the complexity of the musical form. It is epitomised by strong, progressive bass lines overlaid with highly pronouced melodies with frequent key changes and finished by powerful, haunting vocals. Truely fabulous.
If you pay her not only by the hour but also her ticket I am sure she will be glad to help you....
Hmmmmm :thinks: .... a ticket from Amsterdam to Southampton Airport - around £60, ferry fare...around £11.50....hourly rate..... YES! YES! YES! YES! it is worth it! Hadi! Send her! (Ouh and could she bring me a nice pastry for breakfast ?)!
CLEANING LADY??!! Oooh I need one too! Trouble is...knowing me...I would clean up before she arrived each day!!!
...when I lived in Peru the majority of swedes living there had someone cleaning and doing the laundry...so I gave it a try and ended up just like you said, so finally I said thank you but no thank you...I need to take care of my own stuff to feel good about myself... ...at the same time as it is sooooo boring! ...and for many years I had a wonderful husband that enjoyed cleaning more than I did...but good things don´t last, do they? ...so once again I am obliged to do the housework on my own...but in time my daughters will do their part! ...and I will not even pay them!
Catwoman! I wish there was a "stand ovation" smiley - I would use it for your last post! WOW! It is so good, I dare not even post a comment next to it for fear of hiding it! Aferin sana !
Tick-tock, tick-tock - well it's Sunday morning here so we will have to wait a few more hours for the BIG reaction eh? . Ahh well, I am off to work now, but will check on the fireworks later!
Tick-tock, tick-tock - well it's Sunday morning here so we will have to wait a few more hours for the BIG reaction eh? . Ahh well, I am off to work now, but will check on the fireworks later!
you're enjoying this, aren't you? heheh.. and I'll be the one taking all the punches .
you're enjoying this, aren't you? heheh.. and I'll be the one taking all the punches .
Hehehe it makes a nice change, it usually ME ! Don't worry I will be there in spirit, cheering you on at the side of the boxing ring, bucket of water and sponge in hand !
you're enjoying this, aren't you? heheh.. and I'll be the one taking all the punches .
Hehehe it makes a nice change, it usually ME ! Don't worry I will be there in spirit, cheering you on at the side of the boxing ring, bucket of water and sponge in hand !
Cmon!!!!! We are waiting for the fireworks, not MORE compliments to Catwoman !
...back on top 20...until susie k gets back again...
Hehehehe! Ohmygod - the stress of it TT!!! You are going to have to keep looking over your shoulder, you wont be able to sleep without one eye open!!!
Well, you will have to resort to BITCH tactics again. Now, so far you managed to kick-out Cyrano (don't think I haven't guessed your evil secret) so who next? Moi?
Please don't kick me out . I have just settled myself snugly between Seticio and Canli and I am feeling quite at home here for a while !
Could you PLEASE all stop being so entertaining tonight . I have packing to do, I still haven't eaten any dinner and now I just missed my favourite TV show! Grrrrrrrrr!
There is really no need for me to be here, unlike poor Aslan who has to keep posting dross all night, just to keep her ranking !
Could you PLEASE all stop being so entertaining tonight . I have packing to do, I still haven't eaten any dinner and now I just missed my favourite TV show! Grrrrrrrrr!
There is really no need for me to be here, unlike poor Aslan who has to keep posting dross all night, just to keep her ranking !
Could you PLEASE all stop being so entertaining tonight . I have packing to do, I still haven't eaten any dinner and now I just missed my favourite TV show! Grrrrrrrrr!
There is really no need for me to be here, unlike poor Aslan who has to keep posting dross all night, just to keep her ranking !
Robyn do you sleep?!!!! Everytime I check TC you are here! Its scary ! You were here all day yesterday, all night, and again today.....
i wasnt here all yesterday..didnt log in til 1 and i slept at midnight but it stands that if u were here watching my moves then u too wwere logged in for a long time!
Robyn do you sleep?!!!! Everytime I check TC you are here! Its scary ! You were here all day yesterday, all night, and again today.....
i wasnt here all yesterday..didnt log in til 1 and i slept at midnight but it stands that if u were here watching my moves then u too wwere logged in for a long time!
Ahh ok, I was sleeping by then. But hell! I come here when I am working, but no more!!! I need fresh air too !
Robyn do you sleep?!!!! Everytime I check TC you are here! Its scary ! You were here all day yesterday, all night, and again today.....
i wasnt here all yesterday..didnt log in til 1 and i slept at midnight but it stands that if u were here watching my moves then u too wwere logged in for a long time!
Ahh ok, I was sleeping by then. But hell! I come here when I am working, but no more!!! I need fresh air too !
Experiment. Post something Robyn does not reply to !
then post something im not interested in
No point in mentioning Fenerbahçe then
no did u know i love fener?
Thinking, while reading all these posts about Fener...
Do you all REALLY care about Fenerbahce or football in general? Or like my daughter, you keep yelling about a team, only because someone close to you is doing it?
Except from Aenigma and Joey who have proved their love for football, who else is really familiar with it?
And... why do I have the feeling that Fenerbahce is the team your husbands are supporting? ...................
Experiment. Post something Robyn does not reply to !
then post something im not interested in
No point in mentioning Fenerbahçe then
no did u know i love fener?
Thinking, while reading all these posts about Fener...
Do you all REALLY care about Fenerbahce or football in general? Or like my daughter, you keep yelling about a team, only because someone close to you is doing it?
Except from Aenigma and Joey who have proved their love for football, who else is really familiar with it?
And... why do I have the feeling that Fenerbahce is the team your husbands are supporting? ...................
no i actually really do like football..and fenerbahce i only wish that i will go to a match one day..and i can only really follow their uefa cup matches over here because i dont have turkish datellite..but soon i will get it and then i will never miss a match ..and yes you are right my husband supports fenerbahce..but thats not why i support them .i support them because i hate galatasary because of the 1999 uefa cup final..im very bitter also an ex arsenal player, anelka played there until recently
..and yes you are right my husband supports fenerbahce..but thats not why i support them .
Hmmm...so I got 50% of it right. Tuh! :-S
Anyway, this whole discussion reminded me of my time in a football stadium, watching a game live.
Strangely , I was the only one in the crowded stadium, with the back turned to the game, watching the seats, trying to find someone familiar to chat with and kill time till the game would be over
..and yes you are right my husband supports fenerbahce..but thats not why i support them .
Hmmm...so I got 50% of it right. Tuh! :-S
Anyway, this whole discussion reminded me of my time in a football stadium, watching a game live.
Strangely , I was the only one in the crowded stadium, with the back turned to the game, watching the seats, trying to find someone familiar to chat with and kill time till the game would be over
Hell! I am away all day and evening and pop in to see what's been happening and WOW! A great big stonking political debate WITHOUT ME!!! Hehehehehehe ! Too late to add my two pennies to THAT topic me thinks !
Wondering ... how Ramayan will look in a skirt . Does he have good legs?
...my guess is no
Well, Ramayan, can you ignore such an idea? Prove it to all of us.....
now this i gotta see
yes i hav well shaped legs but ummm u may complain about hair on it...needs a good shave to wear a skirt.... heheh hey what about u trudy and robyn? what about urs do u dare to wear mini skirts and join me and bod if i dare?
yes i hav well shaped legs but ummm u may complain about hair on it...needs a good shave to wear a skirt.... heheh hey what about u trudy and robyn? what about urs do u dare to wear mini skirts and join me and bod if i dare?
Dear Ramayan, there was a picture of me with bare legs. But the new rules of personal pictures 'forced' (good bahane....) me to delete it..... You should have looked earlier....
yes i hav well shaped legs but ummm u may complain about hair on it...needs a good shave to wear a skirt.... heheh hey what about u trudy and robyn? what about urs do u dare to wear mini skirts and join me and bod if i dare?
Dear Ramayan, there was a picture of me with bare legs. But the new rules of personal pictures 'forced' (good bahane....) me to delete it..... You should have looked earlier....
Ouh! Are you serious? What new rules - I have not been around here much lately
yes i hav well shaped legs but ummm u may complain about hair on it...needs a good shave to wear a skirt.... heheh hey what about u trudy and robyn? what about urs do u dare to wear mini skirts and join me and bod if i dare?
as i told bod.i don't have the legs to wear a mini and even if I could I wouldn't and it would severely pee my husband off too
Ouh! Are you serious? What new rules - I have not been around here much lately
Only 2 personal pictures. So I had to delete the other 10.
since when? i never knew these new rules so it means i have to choose and delete others
It's on the front page!
Well, thanks sorry coz i'm not fond of reading the front page so from now on, i will start always on the first page for latest info, By the way, i had deleted the 10 pictures iaw the new rules being set forth
As a very lazy person in learning languages, it never ceases to amaze me that our non-native English classmates can talk in English so well here while also learning Turkish.
Their posts tend to be more grammatically correct and articulate than the native English speakers!! I cannot begin to imagine how their brains can translate from their language, to English, to Turkish!!!
What clever people we have here! The ones who spring to mind are Elisa, Trudy, Aslan, Deli-Kizin, Sophie and Slavica! Aferin sana
As a very lazy person in learning languages, it never ceases to amaze me that our non-native English classmates can talk in English so well here while also learning Turkish.
Their posts tend to be more grammatically correct and articulate than the native English speakers!! I cannot begin to imagine how their brains can translate from their language, to English, to Turkish!!!
What clever people we have here! The ones who spring to mind are Elisa, Trudy, Aslan, Deli-Kizin, Sophie and Slavica! Aferin sana
+1 absolute agreement from another lazy English person
As a very lazy person in learning languages, it never ceases to amaze me that our non-native English classmates can talk in English so well here while also learning Turkish.
Their posts tend to be more grammatically correct and articulate than the native English speakers!! I cannot begin to imagine how their brains can translate from their language, to English, to Turkish!!!
What clever people we have here! The ones who spring to mind are Elisa, Trudy, Aslan, Deli-Kizin, Sophie and Slavica! Aferin sana
+1 absolute agreement from another lazy English person
Thinking those who have left TC during the past few months, some for personal reasons, some others after an insulting incident. AlphaF, Erdinc, Joey, Lyndie, Deli_Kizin, Mltm, Aslan2, Canli (she has disappeared too)...
Thinking those who have left TC during the past few months, some for personal reasons, some others after an insulting incident. AlphaF, Erdinc, Joey, Lyndie, Deli_Kizin, Mltm, Aslan2, Canli (she has disappeared too)...
Wondering...is it my turn?
Sophie, everything has an end. People come and go, they take what they need from here and when there's nothing else they can get, they go somewhere else. You can neither please everyone nor a single person indefinitely, that's a normal course of life. Don't expect everybody to be here forever, we need to grow and change. And also, there's never a single, simple reason why people do what they do. Those who know Joey, know why he left and that it wasn't a snap decision.
Thinking those who have left TC during the past few months, some for personal reasons, some others after an insulting incident. AlphaF, Erdinc, Joey, Lyndie, Deli_Kizin, Mltm, Aslan2, Canli (she has disappeared too)...
Wondering...is it my turn?
Dont worry! AlphaF, Mltm and Deli_kizin have been here a few times this week. I wonder where Teaschip got to lately though...
I guess Lyndie and DK dont come here so much - they are so busy doing other things!
I feel I would like to reply to recent allegations that I am an "intolerant" "ignorant" racist.
I am very hurt by comments from Gavi and KeithL today and am debating whether to return to this site. Anyone who knows me well will know that I am a fervent believer in equal rights for ALL and have a deep respect for all religions - especially Islam.
However, I am also a feminist and have very strong views about sexism. To me, a child of 11 wearing a headscarf seems extreme and I commented on the fact. This does not make me anti-muslim or disrespectful, I was merely commenting on this one aspect of religious culture. I apologise if people found my comments offensive. I treat people in the way they treat me, and Gavi's very first response to me (and responses thereafter) were insulting and so my replies to her may have seemed harsh also.
You may call me opinionated, sarcastic and outspoken with pleasure. Never call me racist.
I never called you rascist. Nor have I ever called anyone here that. I just dont know what the big deal of a girl wearing a headscarf is. Unless parents are endangering their children, I think we need to let them parent the best they can. Its a hard enough job as it is. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. That wasnt the intenet.
I am thinking that it was nice to come here again, just to see how I got mentioned twice in the same thread
Sophie, I am not totally gone I am just tired of the useless offensive discussions that I used to join but now, living in another country which makes me both wonder about Turkey and Holland, I feel like I am the last one to comment on something. Having enough trouble to form an opinion about the way things are going in Turkey, reflecting them upon the way I was raised..
Once I get into university, some days will start to become monotone again and I think that at that day I will escape back to TC
Aenigma x, thanks for your compliment But now that English, which has always been my second language, has become my first language.. I see how much I dont know! It is amazing how hard it is to make a language your first one! But having more trouble with making Turkish my second one for just now
Deli kizin, it's always nice to see you here! I hope the boring university days will catch you soon . Good luck with your accomplishments and be sure to let us know how you're doing .
ppl thınks everybody ıs lıke ın theır own country and every culture ıs lıke theır own but just degenerted versions ...an they thınk everybody has to be same and everybody has to do what they do....and instead of sitting thınkıng and tryıngto understand them...they just sıts and comments and complain and they ınsult ....ehh i thınk it is best to stay away and watch..cos these thıngs neevr take anybody to anywer apart from tryın to understand respect and just to exprss ur thought...never try to empose it...otherwıse it is not dıfferent than BUSHs democracy
ppl thınks everybody ıs lıke ın theır own country and every culture ıs lıke theır own but just degenerted versions ...an they thınk everybody has to be same and everybody has to do what they do....and instead of sitting thınkıng and tryıngto understand them...they just sıts and comments and complain and they ınsult ....ehh i thınk it is best to stay away and watch..cos these thıngs neevr take anybody to anywer apart from tryın to understand respect and just to exprss ur thought...never try to empose it...otherwıse it is not dıfferent than BUSHs democracy
right... thinking of which part used most insults in the last debate, makes me think that those who preach that they are so much better then the terrible GWB, cannot live up to it themselves!
i dont agree wıth anybody on thıs thread justit is so funny..too funny..that i cant even laugh
Oh... poor Ramayan (I see your point though ).
thanks for understandng dear....i was thınkıng ı am the only one who dont agre wıth any of them...and i am wrong then ..whatever...i dont expect somebody to aree me though...just understand its enough
A useful comment for everybody - when you quote a message that contains a link at the end, make sure that you add one space between the end of the link and the end of the quote, otherwise the message will come out in a weird format, extending the borders of the post... I'm sure you've seen such messages here, so... try this!
It looks like poğaça. Or is it rather a kind of börek?
No it is not poğaça and it doesnt taste like it either.. Poğaça is more like 'normal' bread hamuru, but boyoz is made of something like milföy/yufka. It also doesn't taste like börek (though you can buy boyoz filled with cheese, ıspanak), but Id rahter compare it to börek than poğaça
Its really filling. Actually Id mostly compare it to a round croissant, but then made of thinner layers and not sweet but salty I cant do better than this Come to İzmir, its sold in any fırıncı and gevrekçi. From the (small) gevrekçis you can actually buy them with a (hard)boiled egg and pepper.
Just in case you really don't know what it is, and would like to know:
....no I really didn't know (although I was also being flippant) thanks for the explanation - looks a bit like a scone or crumpet sounds delicious and worth getting up for.
I cant believe myself!!! I mixed up two TOTALLY different members!' I drank ONE beer, to celebrate Kadir passed his exams, and Im already this way!! I blame it on the heat!!
Sorry bydand, you didnt PM me at all Nor were you the one to open a thread, that I confused you for!!
I cant believe myself!!! I mixed up two TOTALLY different members!' I drank ONE beer, to celebrate Kadir passed his exams, and Im already this way!! I blame it on the heat!!
Sorry bydand, you didnt PM me at all Nor were you the one to open a thread, that I confused you for!!
Its okay DK I think you should put more water in your rakı
"The first cut is the deepest", used to say Cat Stevens all of the time, when she used to prefer call him "Yusuf Islam" - insistently, insistently "Yusuf Islam", especailly sitting at her desk just in front of mine in the classroom. I just began to become an atheist in those days when we both were teenagers, and she used to derive proofs about Islam from saying insistently "Yusuf Islam", as if saying, "See, even Cat Stevens became a Muslim!" It was true that he became a Muslim, but for me, he would still say "the first cut is the deepest". That "first cut" always remained "the deepest", -how strange!- she completely covered herself and gave up listening to her "Yusuf Islam".
They say he had said for few who committed suicide after he became a muslim, "Instead, it would have been better if they, too, had become muslims", and I say "it would have been better if she had continued to listen to Cat Stevens instead of covering herself."
One of the most hurting actual facts must be the fact that you know you are a big NOTHING. NOTHING is thought or felt about you. You deserve, for example, anger, hate, hatred, insults or some hurting words. But NONE of these are said to or thought or felt about you. Because you mean and are NOTHING to them. And they know well the fact that they think or feel NOTHING, not even anger or hatred, about you is the biggest punishment and the most hurting case to you. To know, for example, you are hated indicates that you STILL mean SOMETHING to them.
But I am bleeding, I am loosing blood... And I am too thirsthy! Just there, there is a fountain, saw it? Take some water into your palms, and make me drink a few drops. My lips are too dry like a desert. And look into my eyes. What are you seeing now?
Cyrano... Aenigma...
longing for feelings is longing for pain... buddhist say...
but then again feelings mean life for so many of us...
maybe if you seek beyond feelings, towards what is more constant, pain, being just a feeling will disappear. Feelings are like the glory...and... sic transit gloria mundi ...
we live short lifes, so why expect memory to last long?
then again, too much pain can also be delightful to the soul... at least so thay say... an addiction.
in my opinion, cyrano solves the aenigma of 1 posts...
On Saturday I'm moving to Ireland and I haven't even started to pack yet! Panic! Panic! Panic! Why do people need things? It's impossible to decide what will be absolutely necessary over there and what is just a whim! Owwwww somebody just shoot me please! :-S
I am an atheist for more than 12 years, and since I became an unbeliever, for the first time in my life I wanted to believe in the existence of God on 19 July 2007. It is that day I understood very well that we tend to believe transcendental entites such as God when we are so desperate and weak.
"I do want to believe in God right now, I do want to pray for him, I do want to kneel and cry and cry and cry and cry and cry...
Please someone say to me, "Believe in God! Do it!"
No one can do that except you!
İts called believing...and that is something coming from your inner,inside you.
No one can tell you to believe !
Look arround you,look inside you and you will get your answeres .
Well Canli, it was on 19 July that I did want to believe in God, but since then I have sometimes wanted to believe in God nevertheless. Would I really and honestly and wholeheartedly believe in God if I knew that she will forgive me? Don't know. But sometimes I said to myself if I am forgiven, I would believe in God. But I am afraid God doesn't work at all, because I am not forgiven and it seems I will never be forgiven.
There is God and there is people
So when you do something bad to God,as not obaying HİM for example,so you ask forgivness from GOd
İf you do something wrong to people,and that thing GOD doesnt approve on it of course,then so you'd be forgiven only when GOD and people forgive you.
You ask GOD to forgive you,and HE will forgive you as long as you really meant it,and you really regret it.
Then you ask people 'the one you hurt' to forgive you,and that is up to people themselves if they forgive you or not.
But you can always pray to God ,ask HİM to make them forgive you.
As we say,ALLAH can forgive what is HİS,but cant forgive what is NOT HİS.
Then you ask people 'the one you hurt' to forgive you,and that is up to people themselves if they forgive you or not.
Well said, Canlı. That's why God doesn't work. I would really and wholeheartedly wish God existed and worked, but sadly... sadly...
Quoting CANLI:
But you can always pray to God ,ask HİM to make them forgive you.
Then what is the point in praying to God if I am not forgiven? But nevertheless, -it is strange- I prayed to God and asked him to make her forgive me although I knew this didn't work and help me at all. That didn't work and help anyway.
God not a tool you use it to have what ever you want no matter what it is !
God is NOT an employee Haşa ALLAH,you order and HE carry on!
God gives you a choice,and gave her a choice too.
You used your choice and hurted her,and she also has the right to use her choice and forgive you or not !
God,why do you only think about your wishes and not the other side?
How about she ?!
Doesnt she have the right and the choice at least not to forgive the one who hurted her ?!
She didnt pay you back,i didnt see you posted something saying she get even,so how on earth would she calm down?
Or find peace if you took even her right not to forgive you ?!
Even for a while??!!!!
You know,in a material world pagliaccio,i can say you would NEVER be forgiven accourding to the things you said you did.
But in a world which i believe GOD is exist,then an extra ordinary thing can happen and she can forgive you!
İf you come closer to HİM a hand lenghth,HE will come closer to you an arm lenghth,if you walked toward HİM,HE would run toward you.
That is how it is.
No one can do that except you!
İts called believing...and that is something coming from your inner,inside you.
No one can tell you to believe !
Look arround you,look inside you and you will get your answeres .
well i disagree. suppose sometimes somebody else tells you to believe... and it might happen exactly then that you will listen... if so, wouldn't it be just God's will? melting with our most inner longing (towards him)?
let us not be rigide...
I read a poeam once and it was about what if God would have to bear everything WE believe about him...
(Aside from religion) unfortunately the fact is that if you break a friend's trust or violate them, you can ask for forgiveness (and may even get it) but you can never expect to regain that friendship again. You cannot recapture the past, you can only accept that you did wrong and forgive yourself. Then move on...
It was on 19th July. I was (and still am) so desperate then. I did wish to be forgiven and asked God to make her forgive me. Obviously either God stands for her or God simply ignored my wish and prayers. All in all, nothing worked.
It was on 19th July. I was (and still am) so desperate then. I did wish to be forgiven and asked God to make her forgive me. Obviously either God stands for her or God just ignored my wish and prayers at all. All in all, nothing worked.
I repeat again Pagli, even if she forgives you, you are asking too much if you expect her to have the same kind of relationship with you again.
Do you think, aenigma, I could win back her trust and respect again? Is it impossible to win back someone's trust and respect again after losing/breaking them? It is possible? Would someone be able to win back, for example, your trust and respect again? Would someone not be?
I repeat again Pagli, even if she forgives you, you are asking too much if you expect her to have the same kind of relationship with you again.
+ 1
And to be honest,that means you dont understand or feel how much you hearted her ,and that would hurt her more !
Give her time,and space.
Who knows !
what the f... is going here?
mr clown once being panta rei declared to be very religious, today he s an atheist pretending a deeply regretting person.
fed up with his vomittings.
Do you think, aenigma, I could win back her trust and respect again? Is it impossible to win back someone's trust and respect again after losing/breaking them? It is possible? Would someone be able to win back, for example, your trust and respect again? Would someone not be?
Pagli - all I will say is this. Just read your posts tonight. Are they about her? Are they about your concern for her feelings, the hurt you caused her? No! They are about you feeling very sorry for yourself. You don't believe you are any of the names you call yourself. You ask for "god" like a quick fix to her being your friend again, that's all. I am sorry if this sounds harsh.
I DON'T believe that once you have lost someone's trust and respect, that you can regain them. You can FORGIVE them, but you can never return your friendship to how it was before. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT!
It seems so, yes. But I have a hope anf belief that one day I will back her trust and respect again - even if I know by now that I will fail. But that's my only purpose and hope and belief in my life, and I won't lose these. Never!
what the f... is going here?
mr clown once being panta rei declared to be very religious, today he s an atheist pretending a deeply regretting person.
fed up with his vomittings.
wow... your words are just as fatal as you...
always loved accuracy
what the f... is going here?
mr clown once being panta rei declared to be very religious, today he s an atheist pretending a deeply regretting person.
fed up with his vomittings.
wow... your words are just as fatal as you...
always loved accuracy
I don't, and won't either. Not to accept it is my only hope and belief. Everyone has their hopes and beliefs, so that is mine. I don't believe in God, but I believe in winning back her trust and respect again. This is my only belief and my hope. Because I believe and know that she has a big heart.
what the f... is going here?
mr clown once being panta rei declared to be very religious, today he s an atheist pretending a deeply regretting person.
fed up with his vomittings.
wow... your words are just as fatal as you...
always loved accuracy
what the f... is going here?
mr clown once being panta rei declared to be very religious, today he s an atheist pretending a deeply regretting person.
fed up with his vomittings.
wow... your words are just as fatal as you...
always loved accuracy
I want to confess my sin to everyone on the earth so that everyone, if not know already, should know how much bastard and asshole I am, so that everyone should detest me, so that I should feel more and more pain and suffer more and more, till I have enough of pain!
Is there now anyone who doesn't yet know that I am a REAL bastard and an asshole?
I want to confess my sin to everyone on the earth so that everyone, if not know already, should know how much bastard and asshole I am, so that everyone should detest me, so that I should feel more and more pain and suffer more and more, till I have enough of pain!
Is there now anyone who doesn't yet know that I am a REAL bastard and an asshole?
If this is your way of "winning back her trust and respect" than I am afraid there is no hope
I want to confess my sin to everyone on the earth so that everyone, if not know already, should know how much bastard and asshole I am, so that everyone should detest me, so that I should feel more and more pain and suffer more and more, till I have enough of pain!
Is there now anyone who doesn't yet know that I am a REAL bastard and an asshole?
hmm...read it... and i must admit i am looking at your post wandering if
you are really looking for an answer?
I see it is so easy, Aenigma, to say opposite things. Because you, including she, have just READ what I have written (not even all of them); but it is only me who EXPERINCE/LIVE such feelings.
"I have been suffering!"
Now you READ the above sentence. What have you felt/experinced?
I see it is so easy, Aenigma, to say opposite things. Because you, including she, have just READ what I have written; but it is only me who EXPERINCE/LIVE such feelings.
"I have been suffering!"
Now you READ the above sentence. What have you felt/experinced?
You are feeling pain, but it makes ME feel like you are being selfish. I am sorry if that hurts you, but you are doing nothing to regain her respect.
Yes, it seems I am selfish. I am aware of this. But she hasn't given me any chance (not) to do anything differently; she doesn't allow me. I put myself in place of her, trying to understand her feelings/thoughts. What would I do or think or feel if I were in place of her? One point I am very sure about is that I would certainly allow him (namely "me") to explain things and/or himself even if I don't forgive him (namely "me"). I am sure about this point. Maybe apart from this point, I, too, would completely act/feel/think/do the way she does.
Uhmmmm........... So now God is a woman and there was me thinking that he was a big fat man, a bit like Pavarotti with a big white beard and lives in the clouds :-S (cuckoo, cuckoo!!)
Unfortunately that's human relationships for you. She has no obligation to listen to you. Whatever it is that you have done, she has no obligation to talk to you ever again. You WANT her to, of course, because you are sad you lost a good friend, but there is NOTHING you can do MAKE her renew that friendship.
If you want my honest advice, it would be to leave her alone. Completely alone! Give her peace. Also, my advice is to forgive yourself and move on. The irony is, you will stand more chance of a future friendship from taking this action, than you will by calling yourself names and begging her to talk to you.
Unfortunately that's human relationships for you. She has no obligation to listen to you. Whatever it is that you have done, she has no obligation to talk to you ever again.
Please don't put the "obligation"-thing into the matter. We are talking about no-one's obligations here, including mine. That's completely different point.
Yes, it seems I am selfish. I am aware of this. But she hasn't given me any chance (not) to do anything differently; she doesn't allow me. I put myself in place of her, trying to understand her feelings/thoughts. What would I do or think or feel if I were in place of her? One point I am very sure about is that I would certainly allow him (namely "me") to explain things and/or himself even if I don't forgive him (namely "me"). I am sure about this point. Maybe apart from this point, I, too, would completely act/feel/think/do the way she does.
just a personal opinion... no offence, there are no buts... and if you disagree with her not allowing you to explain, to act differently, then you two have already a point of disagreement... And if she reads it, would she have the time to react now? Maybe no, because you are constantly reacting. Are you prepared for her reaction? If so, that means allowing her to react (even if it means a non-reaction). Probably she already got your message by now. It might be not that you doubt yourself, your faith, and character, but from a point on you risk to doubt her... it is complicated to give advice... maybe she read this and... if not, then maybe you, after a time, you... good fortune!
If you want my honest advice, it would be to leave her alone. Completely alone! Give her peace. Also, my advice is to forgive yourself and move on. The irony is, you will stand more chance of a future friendship from taking this action, than you will by calling yourself names and begging her to talk to you.
Iyi geceler
So what was your comment on the most important part of my post pagli?
If you want my honest advice, it would be to leave her alone. Completely alone! Give her peace. Also, my advice is to forgive yourself and move on. The irony is, you will stand more chance of a future friendship from taking this action, than you will by calling yourself names and begging her to talk to you.
Iyi geceler
So what was your comment on the most important part of my post pagli?
No doubt, what you said cannot be denied and are so true. But again saying these and becoming a part of these are different. I would say similar things for someone else who committed the same sin as mine. I mean, you are absolutely right. Furthermore, she herself, too, asked me to leave her alone several times. But again again again - To say "leave me alone" is the easiest thing for the speaker and hardest thing for the sinful person to carry out! Because here who deeply suffers and feels great/unbearable pain is exclusively the one who committed the sin, and strangely enough, who is expected to leave her alone.
So, how would you explain what I have done around here? You would explain my behaviours/actions as "disturbing her"? "Not leaving her intentionally"? Is it "disturbing her" or "not leaving her alone" that pushes me to despise myself and insult myself in front of everyone around here? Why have I spent a lot of time here by despising and insulting myself and begging her to forgive while I can in principle do different and useful things for myself such as learning one more new english word for my job? Why? Because I want to disturb her? Because I think I can win back her trust and respect by disturbing her and not leaving her alone?
Another point - why do I wish confess my sin to everyone while I, as a sinful person, would be supposed to avoid this? It must be me who doesn't want my sin to be known by anyone, musnt't it? And It musn't be me who confesses his sin to people, must it? There are tons of people who committed the same sin as mine but who act and continue to live as if they didn't commit any sin, as if they did nothing; why do I not simply act and continue to live my life like they do?
The translation forum is fast becoming my favourite section to read lately
Its like watching 60 different soap operas at the same time!
Oh totally! A real guilty pleasure for me. I particularly like the ones that go back and forth...ya know..."I love you"..."How can you do this to me"...."I'm so glad we have each other again"..."Please don't leave me I need you"....and on and on and on....
Is that wrong of me...oh well...so be it!
Very sad to hear about the death of Anita Roddick (founder of the Body Shop). She was an inspiration who proved that you can have a successful business AND be ethical. A wonderful pioneer for women, for human rights and for animal rights.
Even in retirement, she continued to fund charities and campaign for human rights causes.
http://www.anitaroddick.com/
How ironic that L'Oreal have bought the chain of shops since -a company who could not be more unethical if they tried ...
Hmmm... its a secret! I could tell you but..I would be obliged to kill you afterwards
how many posts more i should send to deserve to know that secret? i get so jealous when i see you old members send such funny pictures..please give me the secret
i wonder what the members post all day on this site do at their works..what they are paid for? if i were boss i would fire myself
Well, I am not sure about you, but just my very presence in this office is worth every penny of my salary to my boss. I light up this office like a beacon on a dark cold night
i feel at least one arguement will start now..femme, aenigma, teacship, keithL, elisabeth..they all are here..but i cant watch this because i have to go home..it happens nearly every evening i hate this
i feel at least one arguement will start now..femme, aenigma, teacship, keithL, elisabeth..they all are here..but i cant watch this because i have to go home..it happens nearly every evening i hate this
Well you can cross me off your list! I prefer the afternoon slot these days
"Tropical Storm Humberto has strengthened into a hurricane and is expected to hit Texas shortly, the National Hurricane Center says."
YEAH!! it missed us here in Houston...but made landfall slightly east of here in a city called Beaumont. I had to stay here at work last night because I am part of the disaster recovery team. I work at a hospital. I am tired and going home soon!!!
Does it make me a bad person if I check in with the usual soap stars in the translation section to see what is going on? Did they make up with their lovers? Did their lover go back to their spouse? Who is having whose baby?
Does it make me a bad person if I check in with the usual soap stars in the translation section to see what is going on? Did they make up with their lovers? Did their lover go back to their spouse? Who is having whose baby?
Does it make me a bad person if I check in with the usual soap stars in the translation section to see what is going on? Did they make up with their lovers? Did their lover go back to their spouse? Who is having whose baby?
Yes! But I am with you 100%
hmmm. what about curious?
if he never calls, when will she realize?
why do people believe in love after 15 minutes?
How they "wake up"?
you know...Psychological stuff... By the way, if you notice some of the characters from latin american soap movies have greek names, leading us to greek dramas... it is very old story and...perfectably acceptable at least i hane no remorses at all!
Does it make me a bad person if I check in with the usual soap stars in the translation section to see what is going on? Did they make up with their lovers? Did their lover go back to their spouse? Who is having whose baby?
Yes! But I am with you 100%
hmmm. what about curious?
if he never calls, when will she realize?
why do people believe in love after 15 minutes?
How they "wake up"?
you know...Psychological stuff... By the way, if you notice some of the characters from latin american soap movies have greek names, leading us to greek dramas... it is very old story and...perfectably acceptable at least i hane no remorses at all!
I have to say, I have little remorse either....I don't write the soap...I just read it.
Does it make me a bad person if I check in with the usual soap stars in the translation section to see what is going on? Did they make up with their lovers? Did their lover go back to their spouse? Who is having whose baby?
Yes! But I am with you 100%
hmmm. what about curious?
if he never calls, when will she realize?
why do people believe in love after 15 minutes?
How they "wake up"?
you know...Psychological stuff... By the way, if you notice some of the characters from latin american soap movies have greek names, leading us to greek dramas... it is very old story and...perfectably acceptable at least i hane no remorses at all!
I have to say, I have little remorse either....I don't write the soap...I just read it.
yep...so much wiser. sometimes things can go way out of line... and hands
dear, dear, if you hate politics then you dont talk about it. very simple.
Not if you live in Baghdad, femme...!
well, my half brain doesnt make sense of what you said if you hate politics you dont talk even if you live on mars i think you hate politics because you dont understand it, there is no any other reason to hate politics.
dear, dear, if you hate politics then you dont talk about it. very simple.
Not if you live in Baghdad, femme...!
well, my half brain doesnt make sense of what you said if you hate politics you dont talk even if you live on mars i think you hate politics because you dont understand it, there is no any other reason to hate politics.
dear, dear, if you hate politics then you dont talk about it. very simple.
Not if you live in Baghdad, femme...!
well, my half brain doesnt make sense of what you said if you hate politics you dont talk even if you live on mars i think you hate politics because you dont understand it, there is no any other reason to hate politics.
What are you talking about femme? Of course everybody can criticize politicians, even if they're not particularly into politics! You don't have to be a politics expert to have the right to criticize politicians!
What are you talking about femme? Of course everybody can criticize politicians, even if they're not particularly into politics! You don't have to be a politics expert to have the right to criticize politicians!
i said: if you hate the politics you dont talk about it (of course you're entitled to )
then trudy asked if she can criticise some politicians, and i said: that it is the point of politics! (literaly, the essense of the politics is you are forced to criticise this or that politician)
lepiej?
i said: if you hate the politics you dont talk about it (of course you're entitled to )
then trudy asked if she can criticise some politicians, and i said: that it is the point of politics! (literaly, the essense of the politics is you are forced to criticise this or that politician)
lepiej?
Heheh, much lepiej . I see what you mean, but I'm not sure why you said that "if you hate the politics you dont talk about it"...
i said: if you hate the politics you dont talk about it (of course you're entitled to )
then trudy asked if she can criticise some politicians, and i said: that it is the point of politics! (literaly, the essense of the politics is you are forced to criticise this or that politician)
lepiej?
Heheh, much lepiej . I see what you mean, but I'm not sure why you said that "if you hate the politics you dont talk about it"...
politics are politics, be it current or past or dirty or "clean"
There's a difference between hating pork in general and hating the pork you've been served at the dinner (because it wasn't spiced well)
oh, yes! finally! someone got the point!
it much depends on its dressing on its package, not on a thing inside the package! people will see only the package! the package has a real manipulating power, when you buy things you usually pay attention to a package.
the package is a mass media: mass media serves the politics to the dinner table. and we all eat! bon apetite!
it much depends on its dressing on its package, not on a thing inside the package! people will see only the package! the package has a real manipulating power, when you buy things you usually pay attention to a package.
the package is a mass media: mass media serves the politics to the dinner table. and we all eat! bon apetite!
Summer season has been finished,and there are still LOADS of love translations request
Didnt they know they beyond time already?
Or maybe its because of AEnigma's thread about TC love day ?!!
God,the lines are typical as the book says..!!!
İ guess its worthless waking them up,because they WONT
But,i will give up translating again ..grrrrrrrrrr
Summer season has been finished,and there are still LOADS of love translations request
Didnt they know they beyond time already?
Or maybe its because of AEnigma's thread about TC love day ?!!
God,the lines are typical as the book says..!!!
İ guess its worthless waking them up,because they WONT
But,i will give up translating again ..grrrrrrrrrr
Hahaha! Well....not many of them are happy ones so I guess it will get quieter soon...until NEXT SUMMER
İ guess we should've learnt by now,we should save the translated sentences 'LİNES' along with the Turkish one in some notebook,or maybe a thread we call it Translation archive,so we can use it next year
We can save time and effort for the translators
How about that ? lol
İ guess we should've learnt by now,we should save the translated sentences 'LİNES' along with the Turkish one in some notebook,or maybe a thread we call it Translation archive,so we can use it next year
We can save time and effort for the translators
How about that ? lol
God,the lines are typical as the book says..!!!
İ guess its worthless waking them up,because they WONT
But,i will give up translating again ..grrrrrrrrrr
Ohh please don't stop. The lines may be redundant but they can still amuse!
Ok,ok we are tea drinkers too lol
İ would invite her over tea and Şişe in Hüssin lol
But was she here ?!
Yes! I think so And guess what?!?!?!?!?! I am coming there in the Spring. Ermmm...but a bit more touristy than Trudy, I am doing the whole Nile Cruise thing Shall we meet for tea?
Yes! I think so And guess what?!?!?!?!?! I am coming there in the Spring. Ermmm...but a bit more touristy than Trudy, I am doing the whole Nile Cruise thing Shall we meet for tea?
Awwwwwww,thats GREATTTTT
And Küşari too,if your stomach can take it lol
Tell me before it,so i can give you some tips as much as i can,wont make you a tourist ,if you know what i mean lol
Awwwwwww,thats GREATTTTT
And Küşari too,if your stomach can take it lol
Tell me before it,so i can give you some tips as much as i can,wont make you a tourist ,if you know what i mean lol
İts one of the very old and traditional Egyptian food,doesnt cost much and tasty
Contain of Macaroni,Lentil,rice,fried onion,and tomato sauce on topping
İts very delicious
İts one of the very old and traditional Egyptian food,doesnt cost much and tasty
Contain of Macaroni,Lentil,rice,fried onion,and tomato sauce on topping
İts very delicious
It looks wonderful - perfect for me because I am vegetarian
Welcome back Trudy I hope you had a great holiday! (Did CANLI invite you for tea? )
Thanks, Aenigma. Yes, I had a great time. I saw many sites amongst of course the piramids of Gize and Djoser, Cairo museum with several mummies, 'death'-city (where people live in rooms next to graves), two markets, mosques, I climbed up a minaret, in Luxor I saw Karnak temple, Luxor temple, Luxor museum, Valley of the Kings, I made a balloon flight at 5.30AM to see the sun coming up above sites and desert and many more. I also was on a camel, I absolutely know now why they call it 'the ship of the desert'.... It was a very active vacation with not so much rest, so now I need time to sleep... Only the train from Cairo to Luxor I didn't like, 10 hours on a very dirty train with toilets that make you puke!
The food was great too - even though 18 of the 21 people in my group including myself suffered from 'Nile-belly'... but no tea....
Welcome back Trudy,glad that you've enjoyed it Actually puplic transportation here is not that good,it has many leveles
Luxe ones and regular ones,even in buses inside town too,one with airconditions,and comfy chairs,and one very crowded and with no airconditions.
So we depend on the private cars,and you could hire a car for a day by '20$' i guess maybe it can be a bit more for tourists.
And that is same in trains too,there is the 'Spanish train' and 'express train' i believe those are the good ones,im not sure which one is better than the others,but the good one take the journey from Cairo to Luxor in 6 hours.
İ personally prefer plane in that long distance,its not expensive 'about 60$ ' and it takes only 1 hour.
No tea ?!tea and Şişe are famous in Hüssin,you should've gone to Khan El Khalili while you are in Cairo,you would smell the History there,its lovely,eating Kebab,or Küşari,and Fetir 'something like pide' are famous too along with many cafe's there.
Anyway,welcome back
now that I think about it .. yes you are correct .. its just a colour it doesn't matter that I'm not a virgin .. who's going to know right? well .. with the exception of my children!! but I have heard of places in europe I can go to have it sewn back shut to mimic being a virgin .. wonder how much that costs ..
now that I think about it .. yes you are correct .. its just a colour it doesn't matter that I'm not a virgin .. who's going to know right? well .. with the exception of my children!! but I have heard of places in europe I can go to have it sewn back shut to mimic being a virgin .. wonder how much that costs ..
now that I think about it .. yes you are correct .. its just a colour it doesn't matter that I'm not a virgin .. who's going to know right? well .. with the exception of my children!! but I have heard of places in europe I can go to have it sewn back shut to mimic being a virgin .. wonder how much that costs ..
now that I think about it .. yes you are correct .. its just a colour it doesn't matter that I'm not a virgin .. who's going to know right? well .. with the exception of my children!! but I have heard of places in europe I can go to have it sewn back shut to mimic being a virgin .. wonder how much that costs ..
im afraid only eastern girls must know the answer
Nope, here in Rotterdam 3000 euro. Serious!
Nope girls keep your clothes on forget about bikini's
now that I think about it .. yes you are correct .. its just a colour it doesn't matter that I'm not a virgin .. who's going to know right? well .. with the exception of my children!! but I have heard of places in europe I can go to have it sewn back shut to mimic being a virgin .. wonder how much that costs ..
im afraid only eastern girls must know the answer
Nope, here in Rotterdam 3000 euro. Serious!
sounds good!!less than maintaing a d*d*,thing worth considering!Thanx 4 advice
not so bad, you can be a decent product for a marriage at this price, not bad
only 3000 euro .. wooooow .. I'm booking the next flight to Rotterdam!!
Want the link of the site?
Oh yes please .. my dudu will be so proud to have such an old virgin!!!
hmm although on second thought .. if I do that I am spending my money for him indirectly .. Oh no .. that will mean another fight and a head the size of a 30lb pumpkin this time .. what to do .. what to do .. become a virgin again .. or have a 30lb pumpkin head ..
And if were lucky catwoman will get us a male stripper.
Not after you called my posts rubbish Tea!
I thought you said it was alright to call something rubbish, if you didn't agree with it. It was almost an invite, like a welcoming for me to say it. Isn't that what you wanted?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
I will bring the strippers as long as Teas doesn't get to see them. Who will bring lemons for Femme, Alfie and Libra?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
I will bring the strippers as long as Teas doesn't get to see them. Who will bring lemons?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
see forum on little pieces of paper....I don't think it means anything...see you at Teas slumber party. Catwoman, please bring the strippers, I will bring beer. I am pretty sure Teas can get pizza. Femme, would you be a dear and bring pretzels and tell AEnigma to bring what some veggies. Trudy can you bring some hot looking blonde guys for variety (I know you must have some in the Netherlands)?
Blond guys enough, but hot looking? Erm..... :-S
you ran out of them?
Hardly ever saw/see them. Sorry, they're not my type.
It's not fair...first you get Borat now you get the blondes too? Not fair, Not fair I say!
What do YOU need a blonde for, Elisabeth?
JUST LOOKING!! I am married NOT DEAD!!
That's not fair to these guys. Then you get the situation salesmen at Istanbul Grand Bazaar always tell me and my countrymen: look, look and don't buy. (Poor blonde guys).
Congratulations Femme Fatal!!!!!!!! You finally made it to the most frequent users list!! Albeit next to Libra It makes it so much easier for me to check your posts now (None of your other names ever made it!)
Congratulations Femme Fatal!!!!!!!! You finally made it to the most frequent users list!! Albeit next to Libra It makes it so much easier for me to check your posts now (None of your other names ever made it!)
OH MY GOD!!! im not only pleased, im honored! i dreamt about that so long! now it comes true! im lucky lets drink to that! it doesnt happent to everyone, im among the truly blessed ones!
Not HERE! In the most frequent users list. You are only next to Bod. With your dutch liberal mind, I'm sure you will enjoy the company! Imagine me though - I'm sitting next to CANLI who thinks that I'm a racist against I****! I'm scared to stick my nose out! Or think of poor Aenigma - she's sitting next to Erdinc! Or Femme - she's next to Libra - at least they can share lemons.
It has got beyond a joke - reading the translation forum and watching women act as if they are brain-washed while the men they love so much act so selfishly and talk only of money, has become unbearable.
Sitting and watching these "cons" take place, and not being able to do anything about it, drives me crazy. This is not just about broken hearts, its about their whole lives being ruined.....
I dont wish to embarass the person involved, so wont use any names, but this message is just sick!
"Look darling I hope you understand me. I want to buy a business. The total cost is 50000$. Half the bank will give me credit for but the other half I have to pay. I can't do this in my own strength. If you do not help me I can't succeed on my own. I asked you how much money you could find, but you don't have any money. This means it is impossible for us to buy this business. For the house we need at least 10000$. Rents in Bodrum are very expensive, we need furniture, there will be lots of expenses. These are all too much for me, in other words I can't do it if you don't help. Please don't misunderstand me. Haven't you done anything up to now, meaning up to this age, don't you have any social security or pension fund, I don't understand it. If you don't help me in this way I can't rent a house becasue of money, and I can't buy a business because I don't have the financial strength, and all of the dreams we made will be worthless. If this is the case I have to go to Germany, because it is no point waiting for March because nothing will happen in March and I will have wasted time waiting. Understand me and forgive me my darling because you don't have money and I don't have money it will be very hard. So it is a shame but our love will be destroyed because of money. I hope you understood me, my darling. But I will never forget you my baby."
I really believe, there more important subjects right now, right at this moment to get upset and feel inadequate about not being able to do anything than worrying about heart broken TC women/girls.
I am completely shocked reading that story. We are not just talking about a new cellphone or laptop, which in itself is already a big amount of money, but someone is actually threatening his girl to leave her if she doesnt give him a bank deposit of 10 thousands of dollars!
I really believe, there more important subjects right now, right at this moment to get upset and feel inadequate about not being able to do anything than worrying about heart broken TC women/girls.
I like your theory thehandsom. We can only worry about one thing then? So...today I am concerned about world famine, so therefore I cannot spare time for mercy killings....
We are not just talking about heart-breaks Handsom, we are talking about women losing EVERYTHING THEY OWN as well.
Sure, I am not surprised you have no sympathy. They are just dumb women right?
I did not mean that at all..
Of course I get very cross and upset when I hear those stories.
What I meant was, after looking at today's papers, over 1000 people got killed in bengladesh; how many little girls and boys are dying in pakistan, africa; the whole iraq stiuation etc. It is so depressing!!
Hey..about 'dumb women' thing. I quite like to believe, I am one of the last turkish men to be labelled as sexist. I do not think I am sexist at all!!
I did not mean that at all..
Of course I get very cross and upset when I hear those stories.
What I meant was, after looking at today's papers, over 1000 people got killed in bengladesh; how many little girls and boys are dying in pakistan, africa; the whole iraq stiuation etc. It is so depressing!!
Hey..about 'dumb women' thing. I quite like to believe, I am one of the last turkish men to be labelled as sexist. I do not think I am sexist at all!!
I wasn't implying you were sexist, only that you thought they were stupid for believing these con artists.
Yes, there are people dying every day in famine, war, natural disaster - its horrible. But you cannot ignore other crimes in the world because they are "less important" in magnitude.
I am completely shocked reading that story. We are not just talking about a new cellphone or laptop, which in itself is already a big amount of money, but someone is actually threatening his girl to leave her if she doesnt give him a bank deposit of 10 thousands of dollars!
I am completely shocked reading that story. We are not just talking about a new cellphone or laptop, which in itself is already a big amount of money, but someone is actually threatening his girl to leave her if she doesnt give him a bank deposit of 10 thousands of dollars!
He is a big player, I guess..
Its just not funny. Are you proud of your fellow countrymen?
What he is doing is actually a criminal offence....unproveable yes, but criminal.
I am completely shocked reading that story. We are not just talking about a new cellphone or laptop, which in itself is already a big amount of money, but someone is actually threatening his girl to leave her if she doesnt give him a bank deposit of 10 thousands of dollars!
He is a big player, I guess..
Its just not funny. Are you proud of your fellow countrymen?
What he is doing is actually a criminal offence....unproveable yes, but criminal.
Personally, I feel embarresed about these type of things. Not proud at all I was just trying to make some fun out of it.
Stop hitting me back whatever I write!!
Are you allright today?
On a lighter note, I have a friend who works for DHL Couriers and she told me that if ANYONE comes in to send a package to Turkey they have been told to ask "is it a cell phone"
On a lighter note, I have a friend who works for DHL Couriers and she told me that if ANYONE comes in to send a package to Turkey they have been told to ask "is it a cell phone"
Personally, I feel embarresed about these type of things. Not proud at all I was just trying to make some fun out of it.
Stop hitting me back whatever I write!!
Are you allright today?
a penny from me, i just happen to have a feeling that its very rare turkish men condem such behavour of those boys
nor they condemn the honor killings. which makes me sad and gives me a bad picture of eastern men.
I am really enjoying this latest trend to talk on ALL forums in Turkish language - despite the fact that all forums are English speaking except the Language Forum. There is something deliciously elitist about it
To people who complain about ones who are not learning Turkish I would reply - it is not compulsory on this site. To people who complain that some threads are not about Turkey, I would reply that the OFF TOPIC is for non-Turkey related posts. To people who think they are being "insulted" because we may have different opinions or ask questions about your culture or religion, I would say, if you think that is an insult, you must have lived a sheltered life indeed!
People come to this site because they love Turkey. Whether or not they leave here feeling the same way is another matter
I am trying to work out how it's possible for someone to post something on a LOCKED THREAD!! I thought only Admin could do that
Hadi, gimme the key - I WANT the last word!!
it is probably related to timing... to my mind... admin first entered that post to say he is locking the thread
meanwhile that person was typing aswell... so before admin was locking...she or he posted...
it is probably related to timing... to my mind... admin first entered that post to say he is locking the thread
meanwhile that person was typing aswell... so before admin was locking...she or he posted...
Ermmmmm no! The thread was locked for at least 40 mins before Mylo's post appeared. Maybe longer - I was asleep
I am trying to work out how it's possible for someone to post something on a LOCKED THREAD!! I thought only Admin could do that
Hadi, gimme the key - I WANT the last word!!
i also had that feeling when the thread was locked (as usual the threads i take part is often locked )
when two of us were (e.g. me and my opponent) preparing our texts to insert, i always submitted first than the other person (seeing the thread is locked), thus granting the last word to someone else. its all done meanwhile
Surprised that someone has their membership deleted for "sending a vulgar private message" whilst another posts a very public, vulgar, insulting and racist comment in Turkish and nothing is done!
Sorry if this makes no sense to non-British, but thought Bydand would appreciate a couple of the many jokes that the English have been making about their football team!
OXO Cubes have produced a special "England Football Team" cube in red and white packaging.
Its called....The Laughing Stock!
Andrex are going to sponsor the English Premiership next year - marketing experts have come up with a great slogan...
"Soft and unnecessarily expensive"
that year if im still alive and fancy TC i will try to avoid you pretending im sunbathing in antarctics
Don't worry Femme, the qualifiers start in September next year - so you wont have so long to wait.
Hopefully by that time Borat and I will be married and I will be pregnant with Borat Jnr, your nephew. We will invite you over and we can watch the match and suck lemons together
that year if im still alive and fancy TC i will try to avoid you pretending im sunbathing in antarctics
Don't worry Femme, the qualifiers start in September next year - so you wont have so long to wait.
Hopefully by that time Borat and I will be married and I will be pregnant with Borat Jnr, your nephew. We will invite you over and we can watch the match and suck lemons together
I think I need to find a website about Turkey that is English language speaking.
Clearly this site is for Turkish people (learning?) to speak Turkish
I am sorry but this comment of you is just a speculation!
what you want is just to follow what is going on between Erlik Han and AlphaF...
YOU yourself aware that their personal dialogs have nothing to do with Turkey!!
Well the last time I read the forum rules, this website is ENGLISH SPEAKING apart from the Language Forums...
If you ask me spoiling threads are much more worse than speaking Turkish in forums, as some ambitious learners would try to translate and learn some more about the language... lol
you cant expect everything from the government or teacher can you?
If you ask me spoiling threads are much more worse than speaking Turkish in forums, as some ambitious learners would try to translate and learn some more about the language... lol
Well I guess it depends on how you define "spoiling threads"
I think my comments do much to enhance any discussion
Europe English
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.
As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world!
Europe English
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.
As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world!
from a biology lesson plan for 4th grade of Primary school"Elephants devote 16 up to 20 hours of daily activity to searching for food and water"so..... Porto Thank you...your thoughts made my day,can't stop laughing and started thinking-Why the amount of grass eaten by black sheep is less than that one eaten by white sheep?
from a biology lesson plan for 4th grade of Primary school'Elephants devote 16 up to 20 hours of daily activity to searching for food and water'so..... Porto Thank you...your thoughts made my day,can't stop laughing and started thinking-Why the amount of grass eaten by black sheep is less than that one eaten by white sheep?
oh... that much activity? they must sleep so very little then...((((((((((
the best part is: no need to check my pijamas!
scientific discoveries state that the amount of grass eaten by black sheeps is less than the one eaten by white ones.
after long years of study this phenomena finally got an explanation: white ones rush into the field and eat off most part of grass, before the black ones would get a fair chance...
what is the role of elephants in all this?
beats me...))))))))))))))
Why do non-muslims on this site constantly refer to "Allah" instead of "God" ?
I didnt see it happening, but when I would be talking about İslam, I would use Allah, when I would be talking abotu Christianity, İ would say God. For me they are the same, and according to Koran christian God is actually also Allah (allah is just a name of god/tanrı.
They may be the same in meaning, but the word Christian isnt interchangeable for Muslim either.
scientific discoveries state that the amount of grass eaten by black sheeps is less than the one eaten by white ones.
after long years of study this phenomena finally got an explanation: white ones rush into the field and eat off most part of grass, before the black ones would get a fair chance...
what is the role of elephants in all this?
beats me...))))))))))))))
Why does your boyfriend not translate his own messages for YOU? They send their message in Turkish, expect you to translate it, then expect you to translate your reply always?
Stop running around after these lazy ass men. If they really want you, let THEM do the translating! Give them the link to this site if necessary
(....or are you all pretending you speak fluent Turkish )
here go my two pennies for Aenigma:
take it or leave it.)))))))))))))))))))))))
PS. the number of enjoyable posts on translation forum will lessen, of course, but this lost will be fairly compensated seeing the effort is made by boyfriends...
Why does your boyfriend not translate his own messages for YOU? They send their message in Turkish, expect you to translate it, then expect you to translate your reply always?
Stop running around after these lazy ass men. If they really want you, let THEM do the translating! Give them the link to this site if necessary
(....or are you all pretending you speak fluent Turkish )
Aenigma - too much logic for me, I can't handle it. What do you mean by "THEM" (and why did you write it in capitals?), what do you mean by "give them the link"... I really apologize but can you write it in a more straightforward language? I would really like to know what you mean, because I would like to understand my bf better. Please.... :-S
Why does your boyfriend not translate his own messages for YOU? They send their message in Turkish, expect you to translate it, then expect you to translate your reply always?
It looks like our little laxitive......damn dude...please change your name..... fits the bill here III.
Good for you........except for the name..........seriously!
Aenigma - too much logic for me, I can't handle it. What do you mean by "THEM" (and why did you write it in capitals?), what do you mean by "give them the link"... I really apologize but can you write it in a more straightforward language? I would really like to know what you mean, because I would like to understand my bf better. Please.... :-S
Kitty are you ok? I can't write it in more straightforward language - it seems pretty clear to me Anyway, as you and your bf both speak English, no problemo for you
Why does your boyfriend not translate his own messages for YOU? They send their message in Turkish, expect you to translate it, then expect you to translate your reply always?
It looks like our little laxitive......damn dude...please change your name..... fits the bill here III.
Good for you........except for the name..........seriously!
Yesssssssssss! I saw it too GG Laxitive shall be our new hero
Kitty are you ok? I can't write it in more straightforward language - it seems pretty clear to me Anyway, as you and your bf both speak English, no problemo for you
Of course I'm ok! You're not getting it Well, my bf is learning English and he's making lots of progress, since he didn't speak ANY when we met. Since my Turkish is not that good yet, I'm asking for translations - if you have a problem with it, don't look at it, ok?
Please post all your translation requests here cat.....I know we can rip them apart in no time at all!
My translation requests are NOT for your entertainment girl! I will post them somewhere else or send a PM. It looks like you need a good lay or something, you so bitter and jealous about people in love.
Please post all your translation requests here cat.....I know we can rip them apart in no time at all!
My translation requests are NOT for your entertainment girl! I will post them somewhere else or send a PM. It looks like you need a good lay or something, you so bitter and jealous about people in love.
You can always send a pm to me catwoman..
But I agree..they are so jealous..and it is so abvious!!
You can always send a pm to me catwoman..
But I agree..they are so jealous..and it is so abvious!!
Thanks handsom, after all there are some helpful, non-judgmental people here . Don't worry, I'm ignoring those jealous, fat, old women. They probably haven't even been to Turkey. I have some advice for you ladies: you have to be open to "love" when it feels right (even if you THINK it might be wrong). Peas.
You can always send a pm to me catwoman..
But I agree..they are so jealous..and it is so abvious!!
Thanks handsom, after all there are some helpful, non-judgmental people here . Don't worry, I'm ignoring those jealous, fat, old women. They probably haven't even been to Turkey. I have some advice for you ladies: you have to be open to "love" when it feels right (even if you THINK it might be wrong). Peas.
Thanks handsom, after all there are some helpful, non-judgmental people here . Don't worry, I'm ignoring those jealous, fat, old women. They probably haven't even been to Turkey. I have some advice for you ladies: you have to be open to "love" when it feels right (even if you THINK it might be wrong). Peas.
Thanks handsom, after all there are some helpful, non-judgmental people here . Don't worry, I'm ignoring those jealous, fat, old women. They probably haven't even been to Turkey. I have some advice for you ladies: you have to be open to "love" when it feels right (even if you THINK it might be wrong). Peas.
i think some people miss the initial/original TC which was to their minds wonderful. scoped only on the positive sides of turkey. everyone agreed with everyone, everyone respected everyone.
the girls in love with escort workers were encouraged to continue on.
so everyone was happy
i think some people miss the initial/original TC which was to their minds wonderful. scoped only on the positive sides of turkey. everyone agreed with everyone, everyone respected everyone.
the girls in love with escort workers were encouraged to continue on.
so everyone was happy
i think some people miss the initial/original TC which was to their minds wonderful. scoped only on the positive sides of turkey. everyone agreed with everyone, everyone respected everyone.
the girls in love with escort workers were encouraged to continue on.
so everyone was happy
+1000
I think you should post some poems now
couldnt you change escort into resort before quoting me?
i cant thrust you, can i?
Welcome to Turkish Class come and take a seat,
We have all kinds of people here, you never want to meet,
Some are sober, some are drunk on beer,
And one or two of them you simply learn to fear.
Some have big asses and others are too hairy,
Some have opinions that are definitely scary.
We have good ones, bad ones, funny ones and sweet,
Many have no-brains but think they are elite.
Some are in love and sending lots of money,
Their translations would be sad, if they weren't so very funny,
Too tired to learn Turkish? There's lots more to do!
Send lots of spam and be a cyber dudu.
Or upset Kitty and say Amerikans are bed,
She will delete your posts and pretend it wasn't said.
There is so much to do, but unless you want to hang
NEVER DARE insult the Chewing Gum Gang
Welcome to Turkish Class come and take a seat,
We have all kinds of people here, you never want to meet,
Some are sober, some are drunk on beer,
And one or two of them you simply learn to fear.
Some have big asses and others are too hairy,
Some have opinions that are definitely scary.
We have good ones, bad ones, funny ones and sweet,
Many have no-brains but think they are elite.
Some are in love and sending lots of money,
Their translations would be sad, if they weren't so very funny,
Too tired to learn Turkish? There's lots more to do!
Send lots of spam and be a cyber dudu.
Or upset Kitty and say Amerikans are bed,
She will delete your posts and pretend it wasn't said.
There is so much to do, but unless you want to hang
NEVER DARE insult the Chewing Gum Gang
(God, my talents are wasted on this site )
i think mine was better! yours is a bit saga-like, not the poetry!
I agree! I think your style is more e.e. cummings - mine perhaps more...William Blake?
Either way, we are both VERY talented poets
i know, my english friend! we are great minds.
did you know that english people are actual turks that moved to the isle within the II GREAT MIGRATION?
it could be so, that we are in fact relatives.
i know, my english friend! we are great minds.
did you know that english people are actual turks that moved to the isle within the II GREAT MIGRATION?
it could be so, that we are in fact relatives.
i know, my english friend! we are great minds.
did you know that english people are actual turks that moved to the isle within the II GREAT MIGRATION?
it could be so, that we are in fact relatives.
Ermmmmmm harika.......?
you english, listen to me further.
im your prototype, you should have a great respect to me listen, there was a king long ago whose name was aidan and he didnt speak english (oops, sorry, there was no english at that time) but he spoke turkic, he had translators (into english). he was tall with blue eyes and was very handsom.
i think that TC should designate a person , by rotation to watch over daily translation posts and to be in charge with counseling in short and concised statements...
some threads get seven-eight advices, even. we risk to get shortage of material.
and there is a saying: too many midwives will shed the child.
Sometimes I wonder if these chicks in translation are for real or are they really just plants....coming here and trying to get a reaction.
Can there seriously be that many women who send money to men and fall for the crap that is posted here over and over?
:-S
Sometimes I wonder if these chicks in translation are for real or are they really just plants....coming here and trying to get a reaction.
Can there seriously be that many women who send money to men and fall for the crap that is posted here over and over?
:-S
Girlee...do we really want to solve this mystery? If we find out that these are not real people and just plants...then what will be talk about?
Links, Links, Links, Links..... TC is hard work lately - by time I have read all the news report LINKS, website LINKS and the watched the music LINKS my day is over!
Links, Links, Links, Links..... TC is hard work lately - by time I have read all the news report LINKS, website LINKS and the watched the music LINKS my day is over!
Some original material would be nice for a change
You see Aenigma, it's because you don't know how to deal with it. You're not supposed to read/watch ALL the links, but just the ones that I post!
Links, Links, Links, Links..... TC is hard work lately - by time I have read all the news report LINKS, website LINKS and the watched the music LINKS my day is over!
Some original material would be nice for a change
Hmmm....I'm one of those who put in links. The reason for that is to show resource material. Sorry if I have cluttered your day. You can always take your time to read/see them. They are there for further research if the desire is there. smell the (virtual) flowers and have a nice day...
just wait, you two, i will report on both of you to erdinc!
What will you say? That we caught you with Qdemir and then we were acting jealous?
there was nothing between me and qdemir TRULY!
and i think you are indeed jealous, but nothing of course to be jealous of.
btw, to be jealous is much healthier than ... anyway, you always attack when you feel threatened and insecure, like when you attacked JLO or turkish girls sex life.
bitter bitches!
and its all true!
there was nothing between me and qdemir TRULY!
and i think you are indeed jealous, but nothing of course to be jealous of.
Oh.. ok. I'm sorry if you are disappointed about him.. I know how much you wanted it to work..
Quoting femme_fatal:
btw, to be jealous is much healthier than ... anyway, you always attack when you feel threatened and insecure, like when you attacked JLO or turkish girls sex life.
bitter bitches!
and its all true!
You have no right to poke at my weak points so cruelly! Not everybody has dudus swirming around them and a great sex life!
You haven't done it yet? I thought you were all recovered by now..
You wouldn't like it Cat If you really want, I will show you what Turkeycised Aengima would be like for two days.... you will be begging for Old-Aengima to come back
You wouldn't like it Cat If you really want, I will show you what Turkeycised Aengima would be like for two days.... you will be begging for Old-Aengima to come back
You wouldn't like it Cat If you really want, I will show you what Turkeycised Aengima would be like for two days.... you will be begging for Old-Aengima to come back
It was femme's idea anyways, I knew I can't trust her!!! She's sneaky and deceptive.
why do you have to suspect femme everywhere? im actually an honest person contributing to this site my thoughtful opinions!
dont be so nasty otherwise you will explode like a whale (in california)!
... Aenigma is moving up the "most active users list" with an overwhelming speed. Now she will face some tough competition to go for the ultimate fight with bod. I, in the meanwhile, still struggle to overtake some fairly inactive users like miss_ceyda.... and femme, as always, is in war with Canli... except in this case we know what her real motivation is (to be closer to Sui)...
... Aenigma is moving up the 'most active users list' with an overwhelming speed.
Quoting catwoman:
Now she will face some tough competition to go for the ultimate fight with bod. I, in the meanwhile, still struggle to overtake some fairly inactive users like miss_ceyda....
fingers crossed!
Quoting catwoman:
and femme, as always, is in war with Canli...
nope, im not at war with anyone!
Quoting catwoman:
except in this case we know what her real motivation is (to be closer to Sui)...
People, for hell's sake post something!!! What am I supposed to be doing at this time of day, studying you think??? I have more then enough of THAT after the entire day of not visiting this web site!!!
People, for hell's sake post something!!! What am I supposed to be doing at this time of day, studying you think??? I have more then enough of THAT after the entire day of not visiting this web site!!!
People, for hell's sake post something!!! What am I supposed to be doing at this time of day, studying you think??? I have more then enough of THAT after the entire day of not visiting this web site!!!
People, for hell's sake post something!!! What am I supposed to be doing at this time of day, studying you think??? I have more then enough of THAT after the entire day of not visiting this web site!!!
People, for hell's sake post something!!! What am I supposed to be doing at this time of day, studying you think??? I have more then enough of THAT after the entire day of not visiting this web site!!!
I'm sorry cat...I cannot post here...I must save my pennies so that I have money to send to my dudu....when I find one. I think I may be close so cross your fingers for me!
I'm sorry cat...I cannot post here...I must save my pennies so that I have money to send to my dudu....when I find one. I think I may be close so cross your fingers for me!
Damn... I knew I should only be friends with rich people...
Damn... I knew I should only be friends with rich people...
Are you trying to ruin my chances of finding a dudu??? Ohhhh no one will want me if they think I don't have any money to send for their surgery!!!
Girl, stop whining...we all know you can at least afford a cell phone! A real Dudu has several women looking after him, so he will be able to get money from someone. Just send him a token...he will still text you once a week, but you will definately be further down on his list of preferred providers!
Girl, stop whining...we all know you can at least afford a cell phone! A real Dudu has several women looking after him, so he will be able to get money from someone. Just send him a token...he will still text you once a week, but you will definately be further down on his list of preferred providers!
I'm procrastinating with shopping... b/c I hate shopping and have no money... Hair? What is that...? Is it an abnormally folded protein? A gene translocation? Annual exam... that would have been Monday!
Lots of smart people talking today making me smile
I'm procrastinating with shopping... b/c I hate shopping and have no money... Hair? What is that...? Is it an abnormally folded protein? A gene translocation? Annual exam... that would have been Monday!
Lots of smart people talking today making me smile
If you wear a head scarf you won't have to worry about the hair issue you have!!!
foamy, even though you're a math illiterate, you're de besto! if I don't want to shower for a couple weeks and if my ass keeps growing, I'll have to consider this option...
Is there a Chewing Gum Gang christmas party today?
Where ARE THEY?!!! Cat - it seems you and I have been excluded
I bet Femme is dancing on the tables now .....
I didn't know about the party either! Let's have our own!!
whos partying without ME?
If femme isn't there and kitten isn't there and III isn't there....and I'm not there......................
WHO is there?!?!?! Doesn't sound like too much fun without us.
This website is becoming very anti-British (thanks to Alpha). While we have criticised culture and religion, I don't think we have ever posted anti-Turkish posts in this website.
If this is the general opinion of Turkish people then I hope they make it clear to tourists too - there are lots of other sunny beaches in europe for them to go to and spend their money
Where is Aengima btw? Is she already celebrating Noel and began with the wine early?
fingers crossed for her laptop!
Hmmm it was a difficult choice....
(1) Spend the day with my family, eat wonderful food, drink champagne, play silly games and exchange presents.
(2) Come to Turkish Class and argue with AlphaF....
This website is becoming very anti-British (thanks to Alpha). While we have criticised culture and religion, I don't think we have ever posted anti-Turkish posts in this website.
If this is the general opinion of Turkish people then I hope they make it clear to tourists too - there are lots of other sunny beaches in europe for them to go to and spend their money
OFFFFFF....Try being an Bed Amerikan Catholic around here! Perhaps my next vacation will be somewhere where I am more appreciated!.....the moon perhaps!
]OFFFFFF....Try being an Bed Amerikan Catholic around here! Perhaps my next vacation will be somewhere where I am more appreciated!.....the moon perhaps!
Ohhhhh canim, we love you here.... Try being me for a while
]OFFFFFF....Try being an Bed Amerikan Catholic around here! Perhaps my next vacation will be somewhere where I am more appreciated!.....the moon perhaps!
Ohhhhh canim, we love you here.... Try being me for a while
Someone get the violins! Femme is getting all the attention....AEnigma is posting things more clever than my posts! What a world....how am I ever going to get any attention around here....Don't make me insult Turkishness!!
I wonder how many genuinely NEW users we really get? It seems to me that most are reincarnations of users who "hide" behind their original nick for one reason or another
Someone get the violins! Femme is getting all the attention....AEnigma is posting things more clever than my posts! What a world....how am I ever going to get any attention around here....Don't make me insult Turkishness!!
Stop your whining Elizabeth!! Someone, somewhere will appreciate you! Maybe? Perhaps ETKO? Or azade......bathory? Anyone? Anyone?
Someone get the violins! Femme is getting all the attention....AEnigma is posting things more clever than my posts! What a world....how am I ever going to get any attention around here....Don't make me insult Turkishness!!
Stop your whining Elizabeth!! Someone, somewhere will appreciate you! Maybe? Perhaps ETKO? Or azade......bathory? Anyone? Anyone?
OFFFFF.....I will whine if I want to! hehehe...sounds like a song....It's my website and I'll whine if I want to, Whine if I want to...
I wonder how many genuinely NEW users we really get? It seems to me that most are reincarnations of users who "hide" behind their original nick for one reason or another
thats what was going in my mind for some while!
if they do so, they are simply cowards!
I don't see Madame Aenigma's horoscopes for the week. Any reports lately Elisabeth on the where abouts of some of our members?
Tabloids will be updated this week. I just need to do a little more "research". Let's just say, Madame AEnigma has lost her religion again....Last seen shaving her head.
Tabloids will be updated this week. I just need to do a little more "research". Let's just say, Madame AEnigma has lost her religion again....Last seen shaving her head.
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.
I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.
If it is true.
IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing.. (I do respect him for example. I find him heroic)
But trying to block something because of an artical written by ermenians is different.
It is censorship!! It shows that we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom..
If it sheds any light for you, the reason for my warning is that I have no knowledge of Turkish history or culture and I should learn about it before discussing homosexuality....
It shows that we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom..
This is soooo true! The same goes for reform and progress. I am convinced that Ataturk would be horrified to see that little has changed since he died and that his words and teachings are treated like a religion.
I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.
I agree. And then the topics like 'why there was a problem and was it a problem really etc' should be allowed to be discussed.
If it sheds any light for you, the reason for my warning is that I have no knowledge of Turkish history or culture and I should learn about it before discussing homosexuality....
I said before and I will reapeat again:
He was a great leader. He was a hero for all Turks.
He does not need laws (like 301) or censorship to be defended.
I said before and I will reapeat again:
He was a great leader. He was a hero for all Turks.
He does not need laws (like 301) or censorship to be defended.
I think everybody can agree with that. It really says more about the people banning any kind of discussions/criticism/thoughts about him than about Ataturk. The fact that even hinting that atatruk could possibly have been homosexual is such an insult shows the incredible homophobia in Turkey. We probably couldn't have a better answer to the question of homophobia...
I just cant focuss on my essay. Keep thinking about sharing a nightly cup of coffee with Marzena But must admit that it would be more a morning coffee for Dutch time by the time we get our lazy bums off our chairs (anyway CW, I hope you dont read this because it means you are actually really studying )
I just cant focuss on my essay. Keep thinking about sharing a nightly cup of coffee with Marzena But must admit that it would be more a morning coffee for Dutch time by the time we get our lazy bums off our chairs (anyway CW, I hope you dont read this because it means you are actually really studying )
Hahahaha.... oh canim, you're really looking for excuses not to write your essay . I also had to check back here to see if there were lots of new posts that I would need to reply to... (but there was only one )
Hahahaha.... oh canim, you're really looking for excuses not to write your essay . I also had to check back here to see if there were lots of new posts that I would need to reply to... (but there was only one )
Actually I read nearly all the Turkish pages I had to But its 3.30 in the night here, I wasted enough time on ETKO, its time Im gonna dream about my Kurd
This really shows that turkey is absolutely NOT ready to join the EU....
we are absolutely not ready to join the EU.. to access youtube is suspended again
it says 'Access to this web site has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2008/55 of T.R. Ankara 12th Criminal Court of Peace.'... what a crap!!!!
we are absolutely not ready to join the EU.. to access youtube is suspended again
it says 'Access to this web site has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2008/55 of T.R. Ankara 12th Criminal Court of Peace.'... what a crap!!!!
In the next semester I shall plan my studies better
In the next semester I shall plan my studies better
In the next semester I shall plan my studies better
In the next semester I shall plan my studies better
In the next semester I shall plan my studies better...
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
Have you read forum rules? I am sure you have not. It is easy to ask why it was deleted, who deleted, what was wrong with it etc before reading rules.
Read it then tell me if it is forbidden or not
http://www.turkishclass.com/TurkishClassRulesAndTerms.php
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.
Erdem appeared and then it vanished. Bravo! You are very careful.
Be sure that I did not delete it by being effected by your words. I wish I could find something to take into consideration from your words.
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
Have you read forum rules? I am sure you have not. It is easy to ask why it was deleted, who deleted, what was wrong with it etc before reading rules.
Read it then tell me if it is forbidden or not
http://www.turkishclass.com/TurkishClassRulesAndTerms.php
You would be a great judge in turkish justice system
I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.
I am sorry I can't lock the thread. It is already a severe insult. If not, please tell me some severe insult examles so that I can understand how a thread or posts can be severe insult. On the other hand, you should read forum rules too.There it is obvious what to be deleted or not.
By the way, What is dictatorship? Do you think a dictator put laws into practice? You know Turkish Class has its own rules which were'nt created by me. Seems you dont know even meaning of the dictatorship.
Dictatorship
"In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship
By the way, isn't it an insult to say somebody a dictator?
I think this is not an insult again. Or it is an insult but you are not sure if it is an insult or not.
I have read the rules and can only see that the thread about Islam and Homosexualty contravened the rule about discussing religious topics. If this is the case, then why did you not delete the other threads about Islam on this site? Most recently about the muslim athelete, and others too numerous to mention.
Strangely, I can see nothing in the rules about discussing homosexuality, but I think this is the deeper reason.
where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?
There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?
I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.
If it is true.
IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing.. (I do respect him for example. I find him heroic)
But trying to block something because of an artical written by ermenians is different.
It is censorship!! It shows that we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom..
What are your evidences to judge me? You say "IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing" What are other things? Yes, I respect Ataturk. You say you find him heroic. Is to find some heroic enough to show respect? I am sure there are lots of children who find Spiderman heroic. Do you think they respect Spiderman too?
I think you are talking about yourself while saying " we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."
Please tell me the limits of democracy and freedom. Do you think democracy and freedom is unlimited? If so, why do we need laws?
I think it would be fun to discuss Ataturk, democracy, freedom and Turkish law with you Erdem, but unfortunately we would be talking "POLITICS" and thus, by your own standards, you would then be forced to delete the entire thread (including your own posts).
I have read the rules and can only see that the thread about Islam and Homosexualty contravened the rule about discussing religious topics. If this is the case, then why did you not delete the other threads about Islam on this site? Most recently about the muslim athelete, and others too numerous to mention.
Strangely, I can see nothing in the rules about discussing homosexuality, but I think this is the deeper reason.
As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.
As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.
So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?
As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.
So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?
I wish I had as much free time as you have to watch you.
As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.
So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?
I wish I had as much free time as you have to watch you.
Ahh yes, I really have NOTHING to do, as anyone who knows me will tell you.
I am curious though ...
(1) There is nothing in the Turkish Class rules about criticising or insulting Ataturk, and yet I once saw somebody deleted for it. This site is a US based site, but because it teaches Turkish language, are you saying we are subject to Turkish law???
(2) Why do you consider homosexuality to be an insult?
(NB. I have no reason to criticise Ataturk at all. My question is hypothetical)
I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.
I agree. And then the topics like 'why there was a problem and was it a problem really etc' should be allowed to be discussed.
You can start such a thread asking what the problem was and if it was really a problem. It is your right.
I think it is even hard for moderators to stick to the rules:-
9. Avoid personal disputes and arguments. Personal correspondence postings should be kept at a minimum. Personal attacks or insults directed towards other users will not be tolerated. Basically if you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it all. If somebody posts an insulting comment do not reply to it. It will only result in starting a flame-war. Instead, send a Private Message to one of the forum moderators and they will take care of it.
As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.
So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?
I wish I had as much free time as you have to watch you.
Ahh yes, I really have NOTHING to do, as anyone who knows me will tell you.
I am curious though ...
(1) There is nothing in the Turkish Class rules about criticising or insulting Ataturk, and yet I once saw somebody deleted for it. This site is a US based site, but because it teaches Turkish language, are you saying we are subject to Turkish law???
(2) Why do you consider homosexuality to be an insult?
(NB. I have no reason to criticise Ataturk at all. My question is hypothetical)
1) I did not say you are subjected to Turkish law. You are subjected to Turkish class own rules which were not created by me. According to rules, to be deleted is very easy but nobody has deleted you so far although you broke too many rules. Once you already confessed that you broke rules. This shows that our aim is not to delete everything or everybody. All we want is to keep the peace.
Turkish class can be US based site but can you say there is not any Turk member here? Lots of around. I see you have written more than 3500 posts but you still dont know which can put people in temper. I dont want anybody to argue here. Forums are not where people argue and insult each other. I hope you understand me. Please dont ask me more about this topic, because I have already talked more than I needed.
I think it is even hard for moderators to stick to the rules:-
9. Avoid personal disputes and arguments. Personal correspondence postings should be kept at a minimum. Personal attacks or insults directed towards other users will not be tolerated. Basically if you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it all. If somebody posts an insulting comment do not reply to it. It will only result in starting a flame-war. Instead, send a Private Message to one of the forum moderators and they will take care of it.
I see you still dont understand what I mean. I am sure other members has already understood.
I think the issue for many of us is that it seems that the rules are applied subjectively and unevenly and it is frustrating when an entire thread disappears with absolutely no explanation.
You talk a lot about respect Erdem, so why not show the members here the respect of at least telling us why something is being removed.
And if there is an issue of not having enough moderators, is there anything being done to find more?
I think that deleting threads should be reserved only in cases of severe insults and abuse. In all other cases, threads should only be locked and an explanation for that should be written.
I think it is even hard for moderators to stick to the rules:-
9. Avoid personal disputes and arguments. Personal correspondence postings should be kept at a minimum. Personal attacks or insults directed towards other users will not be tolerated. Basically if you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it all. If somebody posts an insulting comment do not reply to it. It will only result in starting a flame-war. Instead, send a Private Message to one of the forum moderators and they will take care of it.
I see you still dont understand what I mean. I am sure other members has already understood.
I dont want nobody to argue here. Forums are not where people argue and insult each other.
This is against the nature! and wrong.
Arguing/debating/discussing is, in most cases, neceassary to find the best or the relative or the closer truth.
Of course people will disagree, will argue, will discuss. As long as it does not go up to swearing, threathining, there is nothing to fear about that.
Arguing/debating/discussing is the way human beings are moved ahead.
(1) There is nothing in the Turkish Class rules about criticising or insulting Ataturk, and yet I once saw somebody deleted for it. This site is a US based site, but because it teaches Turkish language, are you saying we are subject to Turkish law???
(2) Why do you consider homosexuality to be an insult?
(NB. I have no reason to criticise Ataturk at all. My question is hypothetical)
1) I did not say you are subjected to Turkish law. You are subjected to Turkish class own rules which were not created by me. According to rules, to be deleted is very easy but nobody has deleted you so far although you broke too many rules. Once you already confessed that you broke rules. This shows that our aim is not to delete everything or everybody. All we want is to keep the peace.
Turkish class can be US based site but can you say there is not any Turk member here? Lots of around. I see you have written more than 3500 posts but you still dont know which can put people in temper. I dont want nobody to argue here. Forums are not where people argue and insult each other. I hope you understand me. Please dont ask me more about this topic, because I have already talked more than I needed.
Erdem you should be a politician! You have yet again, completely avoided my questions!
If we do not understand your reason for deleting the entire thread, then how can we prevent doing the same in future?
(1) There is nothing in the Turkish Class rules about criticising or insulting Ataturk, and yet I once saw somebody deleted for it. This site is a US based site, but because it teaches Turkish language, are you saying we are subject to Turkish law???
(2) Why do you consider homosexuality to be an insult?
(NB. I have no reason to criticise Ataturk at all. My question is hypothetical)
1) I did not say you are subjected to Turkish law. You are subjected to Turkish class own rules which were not created by me. According to rules, to be deleted is very easy but nobody has deleted you so far although you broke too many rules. Once you already confessed that you broke rules. This shows that our aim is not to delete everything or everybody. All we want is to keep the peace.
Turkish class can be US based site but can you say there is not any Turk member here? Lots of around. I see you have written more than 3500 posts but you still dont know which can put people in temper. I dont want nobody to argue here. Forums are not where people argue and insult each other. I hope you understand me. Please dont ask me more about this topic, because I have already talked more than I needed.
Erdem you should be a politician! You have yet again, completely avoided my questions!
If we do not understand your reason for deleting the entire thread, then how can we prevent doing the same in future?
PS. I think my total number of posts, when added up, is around 6000!!!! Scary thought eh?
What are your evidences to judge me? You say "IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing" What are other things? Yes, I respect Ataturk. You say you find him heroic. Is to find some heroic enough to show respect? I am sure there are lots of children who find Spiderman heroic. Do you think they respect Spiderman too?
The wrong thing is deleting a thread beacuse somebody mentioned 'ataturk might be gay'. What happens if somebody mentions that? Ataturk is Ataturk. Is it going to change your respect to him? is it going to change my respect to him? Is deleting the thread the only way to defend him?
Are you unable to defend him?
WELL.. I AM.
Quote:
I think you are talking about yourself while saying " we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."
I was not talking about myself really.
I will stick to what I said :" we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."
Quote:
Please tell me the limits of democracy and freedom. Do you think democracy and freedom is unlimited? If so, why do we need laws?
There should not be very many limits in democracy and freedom to be honest.
I have no problem with the necessity of laws. But I am against the misconception of the laws.
Laws are there to protect the basic freedom of human beings.
Not to prevent the freedom.
The wrong thing is deleting a thread beacuse somebody mentioned 'ataturk might be gay'. What happens if somebody mentions that? Ataturk is Ataturk. Is it going to change your respect to him? is it going to change my respect to him? Is deleting the thread the only way to defend him?
Are you unable to defend him?
+10000 Plus...where in the rules does it say that you cannot talk about this subject?
I am sorry I can't lock the thread. It is already a severe insult. If not, please tell me some severe insult examles so that I can understand how a thread or posts can be severe insult. On the other hand, you should read forum rules too.There it is obvious what to be deleted or not.
As far as I know there was no insult in that thread. yet to call what is written was 'severe insult'.
To be honest most of the rules are quite open to subjective judgment. Therefore I dont think somebody can clearly say that this is insult or this is not. So it is better not to insist on 'i was simply implying the rules or laws'
This is not new DK - I have been receiving rude messages since I joined years ago - strangely only from turkish men!
Well Im having a bad day and it really begins to bother me!!!!!! First I get accused of being PKK supporter!!! And lately all the spam I get is telling me how arrogant and kendim beğenmiş I am!!! It pisses me off.
Well Im having a bad day and it really begins to bother me!!!!!! First I get accused of being PKK supporter!!! And lately all the spam I get is telling me how arrogant and kendim beğenmiş I am!!! It pisses me off.
I know what you mean. I am always upfront in my opinions and seriously dislike people who say nothing publically but then send abusive private messages to you.
Unfortunately, regarding the PKK issue, it seems that Turkish nationalists are determined to label all Kurds as PKK now. They are becoming so radical that they are achieving their ambition as I am sure that they are pushing many loyal Kurdish-Turkish citizens away. When there are riots on the streets about Kurds and police who discriminate against you .... where else can you turn to?
Your boyfriend is Kurdish - so by your very association with him, you are a PKK sympathiser. That is their mentality!
The "Turkey" advertisement on TV always "gets me" grrrrrrrr! It is so wonderful I want to jump on a plane and head to Turkey everytime I see it - great marketing campaign
This site is loosing valuable members and gets the kind of idiot member in return that sends rude messages without knowing you:
If the spam was from someone "new", you know it's quite possible it is actually someone you have had discussions with before. We all know how people just LOVE to come back here after they have been escorted from the building!!
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
come on Elisabeth,still planty fun fan on here
I can feel the fun just slipping away....it's being deleted .....thread by thread....
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
This attitude doesn't fit you, it's just not how I am imagining you!
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
come on Elisabeth,still planty fun fan on here
I can feel the fun just slipping away....it's being deleted .....thread by thread....
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
This attitude doesn't fit you, it's just not how I am imagining you!
ARGGGGG...Now I can't whine either.....there is no rule against whining!!! But you must admit there hasn't been one funny thing posted in DAYS...COME ON PEOPLE!!
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
This attitude doesn't fit you, it's just not how I am imagining you!
ARGGGGG...Now I can't whine either.....there is no rule against whining!!! But you must admit there hasn't been one funny thing posted in DAYS...COME ON PEOPLE!!
I completely agree Lis .
My "feeble attempts at humour" have not helped either!
I used to have fun here...all the fun has been sucked out! Now it's official....I have been here long enough to remember what used to be and now I am whining...
This attitude doesn't fit you, it's just not how I am imagining you!
ARGGGGG...Now I can't whine either.....there is no rule against whining!!! But you must admit there hasn't been one funny thing posted in DAYS...COME ON PEOPLE!!
I completely agree Lis .
My "feeble attempts at humour" have not helped either!
You're efforts have been valiant, AEnigma....I just can't seem to find anything to poke fun at without getting the TNC (Turkish Nationalist Club) in an uproar...I will keep trying but I am dying a slow comic death!
You are still not allowed to whine that "the site is not what it used to be"!
I think that Rule is the one just underneath the one that says "You are not supposed to talk about religion, but we will turn a blind eye to it, except when you talk about homosexuality, in which case we will use the "religion" rule to delete such posts
You are still not allowed to whine that "the site is not what it used to be"!
I think that Rule is the one just underneath the one that says "You are not supposed to talk about religion, but we will turn a blind eye to it, except when you talk about homosexuality, in which case we will use the "religion" rule to delete such posts
it makes perfect sense... doesn't it? homosexuality, is worse then religion!
it makes perfect sense... doesn't it? homosexuality, is worse then religion!
hehehe.....we have bigots, nationalists, war mongers, mysogonists, women who routinely use abortion as birth control....BUT NO GAYS! Well, I guess we had to draw the line somewhere.
hehehe.....we have bigots, nationalists, war mongers, mysogonists, women who routinely use abortion as birth control....BUT NO GAYS! Well, I guess we had to draw the line somewhere.
it makes perfect sense... doesn't it? homosexuality, is worse then religion!
hehehe.....we have bigots, nationalists, war mongers, mysogonists, women who routinely use abortion as birth control....BUT NO GAYS! Well, I guess we had to draw the line somewhere.
I think it was more of my reference to " I read an article that a certain somebody was gay". I think it put him over the edge. I tried to have fun, but no luck...
it makes perfect sense... doesn't it? homosexuality, is worse then religion!
hehehe.....we have bigots, nationalists, war mongers, mysogonists, women who routinely use abortion as birth control....BUT NO GAYS! Well, I guess we had to draw the line somewhere.
I think it was more of my reference to " I read an article that a certain somebody was gay". I think it put him over the edge. I tried to have fun, but no luck...
Teas....you know better than to bring up the "H" word. Big brother always sees the "H" word!
it makes perfect sense... doesn't it? homosexuality, is worse then religion!
hehehe.....we have bigots, nationalists, war mongers, mysogonists, women who routinely use abortion as birth control....BUT NO GAYS! Well, I guess we had to draw the line somewhere.
I think it was more of my reference to " I read an article that a certain somebody was gay". I think it put him over the edge. I tried to have fun, but no luck...
Teas....you know better than to bring up the "H" word. Big brother always sees the "H" word!
I didn't bring up the "H" word, only the "G" word..
I am busy picking myself up off the floor after reading your latest conversation with Portokal on another thread. Better than laughing gas. I'm sorry, but it was the funniest thing ever. Positive reinforcement is the buzz word when dealing with behavioural problems.
i thought a lot about wrong or not. i still think i do not like politics, nor making/having opinions on this. if this makes me such peculiar person, i shall be.
i thought a lot about wrong or not. i still think i do not like politics, nor making/having opinions on this. if this makes me such peculiar person, i shall be.
i thought a lot about wrong or not. i still think i do not like politics, nor making/having opinions on this. if this makes me such peculiar person, i shall be.
Or you could ask Alpha to enlighten you?
There is a turkish saying 'kelin merhemi olsa, ilk once kendi keline surermis', which can be translated as 'if the bald had a cream against hair loss, he would use it on his hair first' I think Alpha's light is quite dim, even not enough for himself...
i thought a lot about wrong or not. i still think i do not like politics, nor making/having opinions on this. if this makes me such peculiar person, i shall be.
Or you could ask Alpha to enlighten you?
There is a turkish saying 'kelin merhemi olsa, ilk once kendi keline surermis', which can be translated as 'if the bald had a cream against hair loss, he would use it on his hair first' I think Alpha's light is quite dim, even not enough for himself...
Ahh sorry, actually I was being ironic - as it is clear that Portokal's post in the Nationalist Manifesto was written by dear AlphaF! Even including "Turkia" instead of Turkey!!!!!
i thought a lot about wrong or not. i still think i do not like politics, nor making/having opinions on this. if this makes me such peculiar person, i shall be.
Or you could ask Alpha to enlighten you?
There is a turkish saying 'kelin merhemi olsa, ilk once kendi keline surermis', which can be translated as 'if the bald had a cream against hair loss, he would use it on his hair first' I think Alpha's light is quite dim, even not enough for himself...
Ahh sorry, actually I was being ironic - as it is clear that Portokal's post in the Nationalist Manifesto was written by dear AlphaF! Even including "Turkia" instead of Turkey!!!!!
You tried using that cream H?
Ha ha..
Of course, that is the reason I still have some hair..
Ahh sorry, actually I was being ironic - as it is clear that Portokal's post in the Nationalist Manifesto was written by dear AlphaF! Even including "Turkia" instead of Turkey!!!!!
You tried using that cream H?
Ha ha..
Of course, that is the reason I still have some hair..
Hmmm you might want to use it a bit more sparingly
Excuse me lady, lavly jabbly, Blackburn Rovers, Tugay, G'day mate, sound as a pound, have a nice day . . . wanna buy anti hypnosis glasses? 10 pairs for £500 but I like you so I make it 8 pairs. Wanna try them out?
OK lady, I need money for new business, wanna invest?
it would be the most nice thing for me to go back to that post of yours, Aenigma, where you offered to join in your gang. Because you are alone. i was thinking to offer my member-ship.
If you do not mind me being the DJ.))))))))))
I post music, you speak about realities.
If you do not mind me being the DJ.))))))))))
I post music, you speak about realities.
Agreed - ama I gave up gangs!! I think you should find a nice nationalistic march for Alpha
like allonzenfants de la patriiiiie????????
have mercy. what nationalistic march?
PS i do not like gangs either. i can take only... well... a male mmember in.
Erm....reinstating previous thread with no mention of YOU KNOW WHAT please! (notice the price has gone up )!
It's really awesome to see a post that is from July 2006, on top of that, written by our lovely Aenigma's first reincarnation!!! Let's see what was on the minds of our class mates back then...
What is it that "YOU KNOW WHAT" we shouldn't mention? and why has the price gone up?
What is it that "YOU KNOW WHAT" we shouldn't mention? and why has the price gone up?
I'm not sure anymore what that YOU KNOW WHAT is, but I somehow feel it might have something to do with a strict nazi-like censorship policy where saying ANYTHING about religion or politics (especially if that anything was not really good for Turkish ears) resulted in a whole thread being closed and membership deleted. It was also when numerous memberships were deleted by the users themselves as a manifestation of protest/whim. The procedure then was to delete all their posts which made it quite hard for others to follow grammar lessons as some of the 'self-deleted' members had huge contributions to this area of TC as well.
Unfortunately I'm not sure why the price has gone up, we'd have to ask Aenigma The First, but I suppose her own monetary system felt better to calculate. As we can see, UK fights for their pounds on all accessible grounds Or, possibly, inflation is responsible for using a twopence rather than two euros...
And how does that make you feel, Orange? Where do you think that feeling comes from?
it feels... shocking, little frightening. was it me to post that much? if i close my eyes, brings back childhood memories... but i keep them open.
ah, this strange feeling circulating round my brain in many eliptical forms. i might develop fetisism, narcisism, more possibly ladybug, bridebroom and ataraxia.
introspective is a very complex thing.
it feels... shocking, little frightening. was it me to post that much? if i close my eyes, brings back childhood memories... but i keep them open.
ah, this strange feeling circulating round my brain in many eliptical forms. i might develop fetisism, narcisism, more possibly ladybug, bridebroom and ataraxia.
introspective is a very complex thing.
Porto you are absolutely crazy and very funny It is worrying that your posts make more sense than most of the others lately!
Thanks for making me smile! (These are specially ordered "Sincere Flowers" in case Libralady asks you!)
it feels... shocking, little frightening. was it me to post that much? if i close my eyes, brings back childhood memories... but i keep them open.
ah, this strange feeling circulating round my brain in many eliptical forms. i might develop fetisism, narcisism, more possibly ladybug, bridebroom and ataraxia.
introspective is a very complex thing.
Porto you are absolutely crazy and very funny It is worrying that your posts make more sense than most of the others lately!
Thanks for making me smile! (These are specially ordered "Sincere Flowers" in case Libralady asks you!)
hmmm... and why is that?
not the flowers, this change towards my little twilight thinking.)))
thank you for the flowers.
i return them with sincerety. the problem with my gang is, i have two kinds.
a private gang.
the other is large. includes all those who want to join in, excludes none.
what can i do? i am such a big heart.
The puppet fixes its eyes on us...
Is this an interrogative glance?
An accusing one? A connection builder? A provocative one? An introspective one? A searching one?
It is not a statue, it is not an image... It is THE PUPPET.
In the puppet hides the miracle and the promise of calling into life.
Being prepared... a movement born from inertia.
This promise rises tension,
the promise of MAGIC and MIRACLE.
But the puppet also bears a hidden threatening!
As it is with every cultist symbol.
It has magical powers... and as it is with every magic, it can become harmful if the puppet is handled by an unfaithful charlatan.
THE PUPPET takes its revenge on indifference, cynicism, profanity... and instead of magic becomes a mere object.
Art does not tolerate lies!
Calling into life is a sacral process,which can be profaned by the lack of faith.
OK Ciko......there was a Post a long time ago, "I am in love with a Dudu Turkey Man". I asked the question...what the heck is a dudu...Trudy said he was a waiter in Marmaris...thus...dudu was born. He is also one of AEnigma's ex husbands....he owns an eggplant farm.
OK Ciko......there was a Post a long time ago, "I am in love with a Dudu Turkey Man". I asked the question...what the heck is a dudu...Trudy said he was a waiter in Marmaris...thus...dudu was born. He is also one of AEnigma's ex husbands....he owns an eggplant farm.
That slimey waiter conned me out of MY eggplant farm if you please! Luckily it was just after Husband Number 16 came along
PS why are zebras striped? find in the article below:
)))))))))))
Two Pieces on Superstars
From the FT, a story which discusses Steve Levitt's work, which includes a series of papers on economics and sports. Steve, a genuine good guy, was awarded the J. B. Clark medal last year. Within the profession, the Clark Medal is as esteemed as the Nobel Prize. Read the piece to see why.
From abroad, Rob Hughes' story about a fellow most Americans have never heard of. They should.
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"More than 40 years after anyone had seen the prime of John Charles either in the white of Leeds United or the zebra stripes of Juventus, the masses remembered him. For John Charles, arguably the most complete and versatile player of all time, equally powerful as a goal scorer or a defender, misjudged the effect of his own legendary status.
He emerged and thrived in the pre-television era and in a period when men still pursued a career in sports for love rather than money. He felt that a player had his time and passed the baton on. He never quite saw or heard or believed the reverence with which generations of soccer followers passed on his prowess, so not only grandfathers, not even the sons of grandfathers, but anyone with a feeling for the fabric of the game recognizes who and what he was.
In a career spanning 1949 to 1966, he played 377 matches in the English league and 165 games in Italy's Serie A and had 38 caps, including inspirational performances in Wales's finest hours at the 1958 World Cup.
Statistics tell us he scored 172 goals in England, 97 in Italy and 15 for Wales. Yet the numbers do not round out the picture because he was selected to bolt up the defense as often as he was picked to lead the attack.
In any case, the statistic that means most is that Charles was never sent off, never once cautioned by a referee, never seen to lose his temper or to throw his considerable weight and force around. Hence "The Gentle Giant." Hence his special place in the minds of Juventus fans - who number 16 million and who in 1997 voted for the finest all-time Juve player.
Their verdict: (1) John Charles; (2) Michel Platini; (3) Zinedine Zidane."
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Never booked? That's astonishing.
Just so you know, Platini and Zidane are regarded as the best players ever to come from France. John Charles the player was in exalted company. But it seems that he was an even better man. Read the whole thing and you'll understand why.
And a tricky question for you: who is Zinedine Zidane?
still wondering why our neighbour (through the back garden), does not like her curtains closed when she gets ready early in the morning(This is the third time!!)
Of course, I can understand, if your curtains are not closed, you can use the daylights and save the energy.
Wondering if it is kind of 'energy efficency, save the planet type etc' thing..
None of my business, anyway.
oi oi..I know what you are thinking!! I always read my papers at the same place, at the same time early in the morning and drink my coffee.
Even before she moved in!
still wondering why our neighbour (through the back garden), does not like her curtains closed when she gets ready early in the morning(This is the third time!!)
Of course, I can understand, if your curtains are not closed, you can use the daylights and save the energy.
Wondering if it is kind of 'energy efficency, save the planet type etc' thing..
None of my business, anyway.
I suppose it is not a problem if YOU don't close the curtains - any onlookers would assume you were wearing a black knitted catsuit
still wondering why our neighbour (through the back garden), does not like her curtains closed when she gets ready early in the morning(This is the third time!!)
Of course, I can understand, if your curtains are not closed, you can use the daylights and save the energy.
Wondering if it is kind of 'energy efficency, save the planet type etc' thing..
None of my business, anyway.
I suppose it is not a problem if YOU don't close the curtains - any onlookers would assume you were wearing a black knitted catsuit
Never tried but,
I will try it very soon.
Then go and ask the onlooker if she liked black my catsuit. we will see what she says..
still wondering why our neighbour (through the back garden), does not like her curtains closed when she gets ready early in the morning(This is the third time!!)
Of course, I can understand, if your curtains are not closed, you can use the daylights and save the energy.
Wondering if it is kind of 'energy efficency, save the planet type etc' thing..
None of my business, anyway.
it must be your business if it is your brain teaser Some are online exhibitionists ,some are real life ones I guess your neighbour belongs to the other group
time to be one, as we are.
in spite of the punishment witch take place at babel.
i omitted this from yesterday's post regarding oneness.
did not found it relevant. but overpassable.
one is given to man and woman comunion.
extraordinary gift.
but what is even more important is what was done for me.
just asking what you are expecting done for you
hmm... i like to be teased, taken care of, being covered with attention, make some of those things which are allowed free only in speach at universities (not headscarf and not bombs :super_cool, to give me the opportunity to give as well. to be happy and make happy. to be walked and taken out. hmm... this are just a few i can remember.)))
thank you for the flowers.
i return them with sincerety. the problem with my gang is, i have two kinds.
a private gang.
the other is large. includes all those who want to join in, excludes none.
what can i do? i am such a big heart.
thank you for the flowers.
i return them with sincerety. the problem with my gang is, i have two kinds.
a private gang.
the other is large. includes all those who want to join in, excludes none.
what can i do? i am such a big heart.
how do you pick your gang members?
good moning. good will and the desire to learn (turkish included here)))) in their eyes.
... ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy
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You didn't make him an offer he couldn't refuse???
believe me I tried! I even said we'll name our gang "turquoise".... you can imagine the pain of rejection... since then I've been against everything he says.
My thoughts... I wonder when Turkish Language Class will be banned in Turkey!
if you drop at least 10 praising_turkey threads or posts a day, im sure it wont be banned in turkey.
all in all turkey is a totally secular and democratic country.
You too Brutus!??? Even CGG is turning against me... I am bound to renew my friendship with lapi... :-S
It's very simple kitten....just don't ASK anymore and you can retain your status!
But..there is that small matter of you enticing turq in another thread?
believe me I tried! I even said we'll name our gang "turquoise".... you can imagine the pain of rejection... since then I've been against everything he says.
c'mooon kitty you supposed to offer me something better like money or electronic goods or marriage and visa or ummmmmm *** etc.ahAHhaAahAh!!
ama ama...oh i just found a picture of you from your initiation album!! how did they wax you like that no way im out of this group
believe me I tried! I even said we'll name our gang "turquoise".... you can imagine the pain of rejection... since then I've been against everything he says.
c'mooon kitty you supposed to offer me something better like money or electronic goods or marriage and visa or ummmmmm *** etc.ahAHhaAahAh!!
ama ama...oh i just found a picture of you from your initiation album!! how did they wax you like that no way im out of this group
Turq, you are so evil! They just took the picture at the wrong moment, it was actually a very fun, exhilerating event! We had opiates available if there was any pain.... Really.... it's a great experience. Now that your hair is so short.... why don't we give it a try, heh?
Turq, you are so evil! They just took the picture at the wrong moment, it was actually a very fun, exhilerating event! We had opiates available if there was any pain.... Really.... it's a great experience. Now that your hair is so short.... why don't we give it a try, heh?
Next item:
Lasoo Turq to the ground and wax him too
Ok, consider it done (he disappeared right now... but he'll be back! )
Next Item:
Should the women of TC "allow" men to speak?
i have some interesting points here:
"men are imperfect in intellect and religion."
"The best of men are those who are like sheep."
"If a man doesn't satisfy his wife's desires, he should choose himself a place in hell."
"If a wife's body is covered with pus and her husband licks it clean, he still wouldn't have paid his dues."
"Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a man passes in front of you."
"men are imperfect in intellect and religion."
"The best of men are those who are like sheep."
"If a man doesn't satisfy his wife's desires, he should choose himself a place in hell."
"If a wife's body is covered with pus and her husband licks it clean, he still wouldn't have paid his dues."
"Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a man passes in front of you."
These are nice ideas for a religion... Anybody in?
Next item:
Lasoo Turq to the ground and wax him too
Ok, consider it done (he disappeared right now... but he'll be back! )
Next Item:
Should the women of TC "allow" men to speak?
i have some interesting points here:
"men are imperfect in intellect and religion."
"The best of men are those who are like sheep."
"If a man doesn't satisfy his wife's desires, he should choose himself a place in hell."
"If a wife's body is covered with pus and her husband licks it clean, he still wouldn't have paid his dues."
"Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a man passes in front of you."
These are all good and valid points Femme, but should allow them to speak? Please answer the question.
Next item:
Lasoo Turq to the ground and wax him too
Ok, consider it done (he disappeared right now... but he'll be back! )
Next Item:
Should the women of TC 'allow' men to speak?
i have some interesting points here:
'men are imperfect in intellect and religion.'
'The best of men are those who are like sheep.'
'If a man doesn't satisfy his wife's desires, he should choose himself a place in hell.'
'If a wife's body is covered with pus and her husband licks it clean, he still wouldn't have paid his dues.'
'Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a man passes in front of you.'
These are all good and valid points Femme, but should allow them to speak? Please answer the question.
taking those points into consideration,
i state them as a low class citizens and limit their rights to speak, as well as to take any decision without his female relatives such as mother or sister or aunts.
considering their low intelligence men should not go out without a permission of a female member of family.
men also should not drive.
they should be totally veiled because they may fall into a trap set by females, and may get raped for which they may get sentenced to death.
i believe burka gives them a full protection from sun, wind, sand, civilization and at last from dangerous women.
Oh great guru...your wisdom is astounding...please write a book and we will hold it up as the absolute truth in the universe! In 1500 years people will argue about it and wonder whether or not you meant that men should be covered or not!!
Turq...I am already married but I would do it just to wax another hairy Turk!! hahaha hehehe hohoho (evil bed amerikan laugh!!)
Turq discovered what we really wanted.... :-S Ok, so let's take turns in marrying him. You know, we only need to say that we divorce him 3x to cancel the marriage.
And she's absolutely wrong due to her tunnel vision.
You seem to be knowing the truth.. Come on..tell us then..who was it?
it is what it looks like. admin thought the discussions went too far, that's it. simple as that! I can't say I agree with him, but after all it's a language web site...
Taa daaa...here I am *bowing down* Still, not a desperate one, if you please...bloody bored would be better
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Dudu's will be all over you like a rash! Their favourite "pray" is bored housewifes!!
III, are you mad? The bitchy, sarcastic, pregnant me an attraction for Dudus? For deaf and blind or suicidal ones
Are you joking....you're perfect prey! Some other guy already did the job....they won't have to worry about birth control now. You probably don't speak Turkish fluently so you don't have to worry about being bitch and sarcastic. I find most dudus to be suicidal anyway, and if they are not when you meet them, they will be soon, as soon as you run out of money anyway.
Are you joking....you're perfect prey! Some other guy already did the job....they won't have to worry about birth control now. You probably don't speak Turkish fluently so you don't have to worry about being bitch and sarcastic. I find most dudus to be suicidal anyway, and if they are not when you meet them, they will be soon, as soon as you run out of money anyway.
Oh, how sweet of you Elisabeth to say that! I was beginning to worry I've lost my chances!
Taa daaa...here I am *bowing down* Still, not a desperate one, if you please...bloody bored would be better
How do you look? Are you human? Pls tell us more about yourself...
You should have known after I had spent a few hours dragging you all around Poznan But just to freshen up your overworked brain, here's a poetic piece about me "quarter saint and quarter witch and half cantankerous auld bitch" (OK not really about me but fits! It's Brian McNeill - The Devil's Only Daughter)
i think its thanks to canli's reports the two threads were locked!
some people are so childish!
when they have no arguments they simply complain!
I hate to see threads locked. It makes no difference at all because mostly conversations just continue on other threads.
Those people who write complaining to admin are the same ones who spend ages PMing with eachother and inventing "conspiracy theories"!!! How Sad!
Actually i've reported what concerns me,and i said i would in that thread too 'Gazza thread'
İ dont,and WONT accept personal attack,and THAT i reported!
other than that i dont care,everyone entitled to his or her opinion
But im curious what do you think would be a better way to interact?
İ mean surely i wont sit still and accept insults directed to me,i would reply too.
SO,would it be more MATURE to exchange insults rather than reporting it to admin?!
There you go again Canli getting another post locked.
Was it me ?!
Although i wasnt actually debating there,and happened the UNexpected and femme agreed with me..
But was it me ?!
mmm,i must have a super power then ..
There you go again Canli getting another post locked.
Was it me ?!
Although i wasnt actually debating there,and happened the UNexpected and femme agreed with me..
But was it me ?!
mmm,i must have a super power then ..
do you know CANLI, usually threads are locked after your comment , do you observe that
There you go again Canli getting another post locked.
Was it me ?!
Although i wasnt actually debating there,and happened the UNexpected and femme agreed with me..
But was it me ?!
mmm,i must have a super power then ..
do you know CANLI, usually threads are locked after your comment , do you observe that
İ must have a super power then lol
But unfortunatly,i've lost that privilege to Animal_Mother tho!
There you go again Canli getting another post locked.
Was it me ?!
Although i wasnt actually debating there,and happened the UNexpected and femme agreed with me..
But was it me ?!
mmm,i must have a super power then ..
From now on, everything that has no explanation is because of CANLI!
I am just thinking about my boss's black spaniel puppy called Putin right now.
And I discovered this morning that He had chewed one of the servers keyboard cable.. ..
Hmm..he likes chewing my cables. eh? I guess, he wont know the difference if it is an extension lead or a keyboard cable..
hmm.
He has one more chance and that will be it..
It makes me crazy when you do something really well at work....and you are rewarded with more work! Why don't they just leave you alone when you are going well? I like to stay under my rock and under the radar!!
it's so nice when femme ignores your posts you can say anything you want and won't suffer from femme's acid treatment! at least she won't question my sexuality OPENLY!
It's been a bed evening First I lose handsom to Femme (the beach) then I have to sit down and re-examine my life values and found them wanting
canim you know, we ve been through many interesting times here on TC. and you are my best friend. i dont wanna hyrt you at all. believe me.
i dont think you lost handsome, hes still your friend.
btw, i forgive you the beach
peace!
Dear I was joking when I called you a beach? You are playing a good Ronnie Corbett to my Ronnie Barker tonight. I am trying to convince you that I am very wise..I made an embarassing mistake and now I am trying to cover it up by pretending that it was all a hilarious joke.
Where is your sense of humour? Ouh the needle is stuck in the record again (I am old enough to remember records). Poor little humble me ....
You are playing a good Ronnie Corbett to my Ronnie Barker tonight.
sorry, have no idea of these guys just cant understand your sarcastic tone tonight :-S
Quoting AEnigma III:
I am trying to convince you that I am very wise..I made an embarassing mistake and now I am trying to cover it up by pretending that it was all a hilarious joke.
Quoting AEnigma III:
Where is your sense of humour? Ouh the needle is stuck in the record again (I am old enough to remember records). Poor little humble me ....
Peace
i think, you have to cool a bit, before you throw me with your english sense of humor.
Dear I was joking when I called you a beach? You are playing a good Ronnie Corbett to my Ronnie Barker tonight. I am trying to convince you that I am very wise..I made an embarassing mistake and now I am trying to cover it up by pretending that it was all a hilarious joke.
Where is your sense of humour? Ouh the needle is stuck in the record again (I am old enough to remember records). Poor little humble me ....
Peace
OK just to be clear. You have misunderstood what I found hilarious yesterday. The initial topic was serious but the thread then developed into something which I found quite hilarious. There was such irony in the way people responded to my posts that followed.
Thank you for imitating my style through your posts btw. I am honoured that you value it. I've enjoyed reading them.
As for "poor little humble me". A few sarcastic/mock remarks from me about being a demented old granny and you take me seriously! I'm glad that you now acknowledge this is not my true persona . . . sorry I finally had to spell it out for you.
I don't think we have anything to argue about any more. I think we covered everything.
I look forward to reading all your inferences in the future .
So long. Farewell. Goodbye Parting is such sweet sorrow
Ermmmm.... What is your view on the democratic validity of the Welsh assembly?
is it supposed to be serious?
What do you mean serious? Of course it is. Thanks for bringing up Aenigma..Dont you read any papers?!!
National Assembly for Wales has the power to make something called 'assembly measures' which, in reality, are primary legislations. And the primary legislations, as you all very well know, are lower than act of parliments.
And they use this power in 20 fields, ranging from 'welsh language' to 'catherina zeta jones's housing problem' .
And of course validity of the assembly is still being discussed in welsh but I think, they are abit bored about discussing this subject.
And in the end, they decided 'oh well, This is a huge step for the welsh independance, our generation did this much which is beyond the imagination, we are passing this matter to the next generation'
Of course it is. Thanks for bringing up Aenigma..Dont you read any papers?!!
National Assembly for Wales has the power to make something called 'assembly measures' which, in reality, are primary legislations. And the primary legislations, as you all very well know, are lower than act of parliments.
And they use this power in 20 fields, ranging from 'welsh language' to 'catherina zeta jones's housing problem' .
And of course validity of the assembly is still being discussed in welsh but I think, they are abit bored about discussing this subject.
And in the end, they decided 'oh well, This is a huge step for the welsh independance, our generation did this much which is beyond the imagination, we are passing this matter to the next generation'
Thank YOU handsom for bringing up this VERY important issue, and one, I feel, deserves an airing on TC.
I think it is of vital national security to determine Catherine Zeta-Jones-Douglas's housing problems, and, frankly, it is a subject I could discuss endlessly.....
Ermmmm.... What is your view on the democratic validity of the Welsh assembly?
is it supposed to be serious?
What do you mean serious? Of course it is. Thanks for bringing up Aenigma..Dont you read any papers?!!
National Assembly for Wales has the power to make something called 'assembly measures' which, in reality, are primary legislations. And the primary legislations, as you all very well know, are lower than act of parliments.
And they use this power in 20 fields, ranging from 'welsh language' to 'catherina zeta jones's housing problem' .
And of course validity of the assembly is still being discussed in welsh but I think, they are abit bored about discussing this subject.
And in the end, they decided 'oh well, This is a huge step for the welsh independance, our generation did this much which is beyond the imagination, we are passing this matter to the next generation'
thank you for opening my eyes onto this critical issue. you are truly an eye opener!
i know you are involved with scotts and know the problem better than everyone.
sorry for being silly and ignoring the importance of your welshy assembly.
sorry if i had hurt your political feelings.
pls post some educational link on the wealthy welsh politicians to open our eyes even wider.
thank you for your enourmous contribution to TC
Ermmmm.... What is your view on the democratic validity of the Welsh assembly?
is it supposed to be serious?
What do you mean serious? Of course it is. Thanks for bringing up Aenigma..Dont you read any papers?!!
National Assembly for Wales has the power to make something called 'assembly measures' which, in reality, are primary legislations. And the primary legislations, as you all very well know, are lower than act of parliments.
And they use this power in 20 fields, ranging from 'welsh language' to 'catherina zeta jones's housing problem' .
And of course validity of the assembly is still being discussed in welsh but I think, they are abit bored about discussing this subject.
And in the end, they decided 'oh well, This is a huge step for the welsh independance, our generation did this much which is beyond the imagination, we are passing this matter to the next generation'
thank you for opening my eyes onto this critical issue. you are truly an eye opener!
i know you are involved with scotts and know the problem better than everyone.
sorry for being silly and ignoring the importance of your welshy assembly.
sorry if i had hurt your political feelings.
pls post some educational link on the wealthy welsh politicians to open our eyes even wider.
thank you for your enourmous contribution to TC
thank you for opening my eyes onto this critical issue. you are truly an eye opener!
i know you are involved with scotts and know the problem better than everyone.
sorry for being silly and ignoring the importance of your welshy assembly.
sorry if i had hurt your political feelings.
pls post some educational link on the wealthy welsh politicians to open our eyes even wider.
thank you for your enourmous contribution to TC
I still dont believe how you can be THIS 'out of touch with the important topics' in the UK!!!
welsh assembly has been a hot topic everywhere, ie dinner parties, chats, cocktails at book launches etc. Of course it is not the only one : 'alex salmond and scotish problem', 'northen ireland, gary adams' and even lately 'Mehmet II and what his thoughts were about the population of istanbul'-believe it or not-
So, please read the papers sometimes instead of watching the youtube clips all day..
I still dont believe how you can be THIS 'out of touch with the important topics' in the UK!!!
awwwwww
Quoting thehandsom:
welsh assembly has been a hot topic everywhere, ie dinner parties, chats, cocktails at book launches etc. Of course it is not the only one : 'alex salmond and scotish problem', 'northen ireland, gary adams' and even lately 'Mehmet II and what his thoughts were about the population of istanbul'-believe it or not-
what an interesting topic! very hot! it started turning me on you see, im not highly educated. i have no conexions with known political figures. im just a barbarian turk. i dont socialize with people at cocktail parties. nobody invites me and thank you for educating me once more. although couldnt get linking mehmet II to welshiest people.
Quoting thehandsom:
So, please read the papers sometimes instead of watching the youtube clips all day..
its not written anything on toilet papers. where do you get your papers?
welsh assembly has been a hot topic everywhere, ie dinner parties, chats, cocktails at book launches etc. Of course it is not the only one : 'alex salmond and scotish problem', 'northen ireland, gary adams' and even lately 'Mehmet II and what his thoughts were about the population of istanbul'-believe it or not
thehandsom I was just wondering.... I was attending a very highbrow gallery opening with my elite friends recently and, just as I was reaching to take a glass of champagne from the passing waiter (whilst avoiding eye contact, he is a minion after all) I happened to notice an extremely hairy man stood in the corner conversing about the Welsh Assembly with a fat assed woman who resembled Borat.
Actually, I make really good pancakes, FF! But tuesday night I was at a friend cooking italian with her, for 2 other friends who were joining us later that evening I had totally forgotten about it too. We will eat them tomorrow evening
Feel free to come over to the Netherlands and have some But it seems as if you dont like pancakes made by mums So you are invited to DK-made pancakes in Turkey this summer if thats more convenient for you
Feel free to come over to the Netherlands and have some But it seems as if you dont like pancakes made by mums So you are invited to DK-made pancakes in Turkey this summer if thats more convenient for you
Feel free to come over to the Netherlands and have some But it seems as if you dont like pancakes made by mums So you are invited to DK-made pancakes in Turkey this summer if thats more convenient for you
thank you for your kind invitation but im afraid of nationalists they will kick my fat ass off as soon as arive at the airport
i am going to a short trip, so i did some shopping today.
guess what i find today at the shop?
Peanut series socks. bought one, with snoopy (it was the only one they had, btw).
i shall wear them with honour!...))))))))))
Ask Admin İts from one ofmy favourite songs, Islak Islak by Cem Karaca.
Well, since he doesnt even have time to sleep (Im not sure what to think about that It depends on what keeps him awake whether or not I shall feel sorry for you )
From a cloud I plow the fields
I will sprinkle rain to the breast of the sky
In the sun I shall 'brew' your tea
I will strain through my heart, and give it to you like that.
Something like that :-S I think the first two must be wrong
Animal, you must be happy now.
because admins keep closing the topics which you spoil with your filthy posts, where you were loosing due to lack of strong arguemtns.
you coward nationalists, you speak filthy when you lose.
Animal, you must be happy now.
because admins keep closing the topics which you spoil with your filthy posts, where you were loosing due to lack of strong arguemtns.
you coward nationalists, you speak filthy when you lose.
Animal, you must be happy now.
because admins keep closing the topics which you spoil with your filthy posts, where you were loosing due to lack of strong arguemtns.
you coward nationalists, you speak filthy when you lose.
Hahahaha....If you calling your degenerated and deviated perceptions as strong arguments, and trying to blame me through them , yes i am happy with your desperate suffering.
So you left laughing at your own deplorably situation ? Hahaha....
Oh by the way , i am worry about you man, not for what you are, for what you won't be....
So you left laughing at your own deplorably situation ? Hahaha....
Oh by the way , i am worry about you man, not for what you are, for what you won't be....
haha
what is it?
is it some kind cucumber thing again and you are trying to put me into a checkmate situation?
Which one ? John Wayne or his poltergeist or peace train or me ?
OK here is my theory:-
Peace train married John Wayne. They had a son and named him Animal (you). Then John dies and comes back to haunt peace train as a poltergeist (she was too sanctimonious as a wife). Peace train gets so angry that she develops tele-kenetic powers so she can fight off John. They fall in love again and join forces. The earthly body they chose to inhabit is YOURS.
Which one ? John Wayne or his poltergeist or peace train or me ?
OK here is my theory:-
Peace train married John Wayne. They had a son and named him Animal (you). Then John dies and comes back to haunt peace train as a poltergeist (she was too sanctimonious as a wife). Peace train gets so angry that she develops tele-kenetic powers so she can fight off John. They fall in love again and join forces. The earthly body they chose to inhabit is YOURS.
Which one ? John Wayne or his poltergeist or peace train or me ?
OK here is my theory:-
Peace train married John Wayne. They had a son and named him Animal (you). Then John dies and comes back to haunt peace train as a poltergeist (she was too sanctimonious as a wife). Peace train gets so angry that she develops tele-kenetic powers so she can fight off John. They fall in love again and join forces. The earthly body they chose to inhabit is YOURS.
I think this is close to the truth ya?
this is so great!
why dont you write books about detectives?
aenigma, have you noticed, since you ve come up with your theory the mother bitch cracks up and behaves totally different like one of the older TC users?
aenigma, have you noticed, since you ve come up with your theory the mother bitch cracks up and behaves totally different like one of the older TC users?
aenigma, have you noticed, since you ve come up with your theory the mother bitch cracks up and behaves totally different like one of the older TC users?
aenigma, have you noticed, since you ve come up with your theory the mother bitch cracks up and behaves totally different like one of the older TC users?
aenigma, have you noticed, since you ve come up with your theory the mother bitch cracks up and behaves totally different like one of the older TC users?
Listen to the advice man..and do not reply..
we dont want this thread locked too.
And some will be sorry if you get deleted again..
We'll see who gets deleted.
If you ask me, you should have listened to the advice given to you man.
You have been advocating the killings of Turkish intellects here. And you are quite proud of it.
you are not ashamed of it but if you are ashamed of what femme is saying. .....phew!!
I am out of here!!
Do not talk nonsensical man, Who do you think you are to give me advice. Do you call yourself a democrat , so why don't you listen the others ? The one who you call him as intellectual was an Armenian racist in Turkey as for me. Yeah i am happy for that one traitor waned. So what ? This is my political wiev. And it does not have to be same with you. Heaven knows why is your all intellectuals work against to motherland ?
Beyond this, If this forum have rules, so the rules must be executed certainly.
I am not talking nonsense here. And i did NOT mean it was ME giving you advice. But anyway lets move on about the advice issue.
What we are talking about here that you advocating a treacherous murder of a Turkish citizen.
And do you want anybody to believe that "IT IS A POLITICAL VIEW"?
And do you want this idea being evaluated as an idea in a democratic process?
Sorry man..I wont respect this idea. I never respected Hitler's ideas either..
Do not talk nonsensical man, Who do you think you are to give me advice. Do you call yourself a democrat , so why don't you listen the others ? The one who you call him as intellectual was an Armenian racist in Turkey as for me. Yeah i am happy for that one traitor waned. So what ? This is my political wiev. And it does not have to be same with you. Heaven knows why is your all intellectuals work against to motherland ?
Beyond this, If this forum have rules, so the rules must be executed certainly.
I am not talking nonsense here. And i did NOT mean it was ME giving you advice. But anyway lets move about the advice issue.
What we are talking about here that you advocating a treacherous murder of a Turkish citizen.
And do you want anybody to believe that "IT IS A POLITICAL VIEW"?
And do you want this idea being evaluated as an idea in a democratic process?
Sorry man..I wont respect this idea. I never respected Hitler's ideas either..
Man, i don't care what you respect to . Mine was declaration about my world-views. I saw how you are a democrat in another thread. Ah sorry i forgot, The all the bad things are done by Turks, all the good things belong to non-Turks in Turkey, right? This is your simple trick huh ? As i said you before, get a life man...
Man, i don't care what you respect to . Mine was declaration about my world-views. I saw how you are a democrat in another thread. Ah sorry i forgot, The all the bad things are done by Turks, all the good things belong to non-Turks in Turkey, right? This is your simple trick huh ? As i said you before, get a life man...
I am sorry, but, it is like listening to BNP leader in the UK or listening Hitler's gost. Hitler coming and defending exterminating of millions of jews and saying that 'respect my ideas /world views, because I am saying so and there is democracy'.
I am sorry, I wont evaluate this as an idea in a democratic platform. Because it is not..
And I really want to be out of this thread right now!!
hope hes virgin, i wanna have him for my afterlife in the paradise
Oh how can you!!! You forgot all about our engagement so quickly after handsom caught your eye...now you are going after adonis too? Is there no satisfying you woman????
hope hes virgin, i wanna have him for my afterlife in the paradise
Oh how can you!!! You forgot all about our engagement so quickly after handsom caught your eye...now you are going after adonis too? Is there no satisfying you woman????
She is determined to have her 72 virgins before she dies?
As charming as he is....and so modest too....I am a fool, I know, but I will pass.
My vodka buzz is quickly dissapating and I see things more clearly.
Looking at adonis' pic with a sober eye brings to mind something more along these lines....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QbXPHiyE7uE
OMG....I can see sooo clearly now that I see femme calling for the good Dr. in chat!!!
As charming as he is....and so modest too....I am a fool, I know, but I will pass.
My vodka buzz is quickly dissapating and I see things more clearly.
Looking at adonis' pic with a sober eye brings to mind something more along these lines....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QbXPHiyE7uE
OMG....I can see sooo clearly now that I see femme calling for the good Dr. in chat!!!
I heard he isn't really a doctor....he is a dudu in diguise...deception, deceit, denials and disaster!
[i have my own paradise, where every feminist will get a harem of 720 innocent, pure, handsom boys (that no woman's dirty hands touched ever).
i suggest you convert to my religion asap.
Hmmmmm......I think I would prefer to stick to experienced men and not be a testing ground for boys who don't know what the hell they are doing...even if they are in paradise.
What are the chances of me going to Turkey TOMORROW and just receiving an email saying the plane will have to stop at CPH to pick up more passengers which means I will have to board a plane TWO times and DOUBLE the risk With my luck it will just be another booring day of travelling ughh
What are the chances of me going to Turkey TOMORROW and just receiving an email saying the plane will have to stop at CPH to pick up more passengers which means I will have to board a plane TWO times and DOUBLE the risk With my luck it will just be another booring day of travelling ughh
What are the chances of me going to Turkey TOMORROW and just receiving an email saying the plane will have to stop at CPH to pick up more passengers which means I will have to board a plane TWO times and DOUBLE the risk With my luck it will just be another booring day of travelling ughh
Calm down canim....you need to take up smoking!
They don't allow smoking on planes Tried though, they didn't bite on me
I am just wondering what 'DOLPHIN FRIENDLY TUNA SALAD' might be!!
Tuna I am eating was a friend to dolphins?
am I eating tuna at all? is it a dolphin?
what is all this confusing friendships got to do with my salad?
I am soooo confused!.....:S
I am just wondering what 'DOLPHIN FRIENDLY TUNA SALAD' might be!!
Tuna I am eating was a friend to dolphins?
am I eating tuna at all? is it a dolphin?
what is all this confusing friendships got to do with my salad?
I am soooo confused!.....:S
Grrrrrrrr! The tuna was caught without any harm to dolphins - you should NEVER buy any other!
I am just wondering what 'DOLPHIN FRIENDLY TUNA SALAD' might be!!
Tuna I am eating was a friend to dolphins?
am I eating tuna at all? is it a dolphin?
what is all this confusing friendships got to do with my salad?
I am soooo confused!.....:S
Grrrrrrrr! The tuna was caught without any harm to dolphins - you should NEVER buy any other!
Stop shouting at me ya..I am not british..OK?
I always read slowly and word by word:
'dolphin' first than 'friendly' and then 'tuna'.
And suddenly I though, OMG. I am eating a 'very friendly tuna'
im glad that some members imagine me as a strong woman!
im also fed up reading the posts of ape age primitive people who praise primitive acts and traditions of all primitive and backward cultures but find all possible even tiny faults of the civilised world (not mention that they enjoy all the advantages coming from the civilisation). it must be so that they feel a huge complex to the higher civilisation.
time to move your ass to the countries which culture you praise so hard.
im glad that some members imagine me as a strong woman!
im also fed up reading the posts of ape age primitive people who praise primitive acts and traditions of all primitive and backward cultures but find all possible even tiny faults of the civilised world (not mention that they enjoy all the advantages coming from the civilisation). it must be so that they feel a huge complex to the higher civilisation.
time to move your ass to the countries which culture you praise so hard.
+1000000
Trouble is those countries dont want them
What is going on TC these days?!
People cant actually stand each others !
canli
there were days you were in the same shoes. did you forget?
Femme,pls dont tell me you are arguing with me for the sake of arguing ?!
We have enough in TC now,and i dont think its suitable to add our contribution now!
You open almost any thread and you find people fighting ,and even not same people,but different ones !
Was this THAT normal in TC ?!
PLEASE !
Yes,we had,or may say have our moments, me and you...but it was just you and me,not others,and others..and OTHERS at same time!
Femme,pls dont tell me you are arguing with me for the sake of arguing ?!
no, just couldnt understand your another complaint are you not tired of complaining?
Quoting CANLI:
You open almost any thread and you find people fighting ,and even not same people,but different ones !
you dont like me? why are you reading me? why are you replying me, canli? you pretend as a peacemaker but you love arguing, otherwise you would completly ignore evil femme. but you dont! it says something about your double standards!
Quoting CANLI:
Was this THAT normal in TC ?!
you can always have your dead poets society back any time. btw, where are they? left you alone?
cant be! wheres that great friendship?
Quoting CANLI:
PLEASE !
Yes,we had,or may say have our moments, me and you...but it was just you and me,not others,and others..!
Seems you didnt get what im saying...!
İ didnt mean YOU as you personally,i didnt mean ANYONE in personal too,its the spirit !
mmmm,would you prefer it better if i dont reply to you ?!
Awwwww,i cant do this to You ! Remember we are the best
What is going on TC these days?!
People cant actually stand each others !
I agree with you actually. It is one thing to have heated arguments and even throw a few insults occasionally, but this constant bitching is a bit wearing.
Certain members only seem to log in to post a few bitchy comments and then go again
What is going on TC these days?!
People cant actually stand each others !
I agree with you actually. It is one thing to have heated arguments and even throw a few insults occasionally, but this constant bitching is a bit wearing.
Certain members only seem to log in to post a few bitchy comments and then go again
I have seen her in Ghostrider with Nicholas Cage and some other hollywood-films and though I dont think she is very pretty (her face has something strange..), she was a pleasure to watch. But maybe it is because she was with NC
aenigma, you betrayed me, the worse part with handsome.
Awwwwwwww canim I didn't! If you look at my post saying "I dunno where to post my 5000th" it says it was my 5000th But user statistics said it was my 4999th - I didn't see that until afterwards
aenigma, you betrayed me, the worse part with handsome.
Awwwwwwww canim I didn't! If you look at my post saying "I dunno where to post my 5000th" it says it was my 5000th But user statistics said it was my 4999th - I didn't see that until afterwards
I never betray the sisterhood for a man
(PS Am I defending myself? )
ok, ok because i checked your statistics and rushed to offer the ever best post. unfortunately too late
tc is crushing down (hope not thanks to your 5000th post)
Would everyone NOT post any music or video links for a week please. I am house moving soon and have just packed my speakers. Thank you for your consideration.
Ehhhhh? Whaaaaaa? Did somebody say something? I am deaf
Would everyone NOT post any music or video links for a week please. I am house moving soon and have just packed my speakers. Thank you for your consideration.
Ehhhhh? Whaaaaaa? Did somebody say something? I am deaf
are you sure you have read her posts about cookies? oh... they are FABULOUS!))) but the same technique can be used as with syrian cook. using silver-like properties or just spoiling with goodies...
Would everyone NOT post any music or video links for a week please. I am house moving soon and have just packed my speakers. Thank you for your consideration.
Ehhhhh? Whaaaaaa? Did somebody say something? I am deaf
hey... can we... whistle?
the law 911 clearly claims that whistling is strictly forbidden.
Would everyone NOT post any music or video links for a week please. I am house moving soon and have just packed my speakers. Thank you for your consideration.
Ehhhhh? Whaaaaaa? Did somebody say something? I am deaf
hey... can we... whistle?
the law 911 clearly claims that whistling is strictly forbidden.
Slavica posted some great photos! I hope they will stay.
Slavica has posted not only great photos,but also great poems,not just turkish poems,but others and have them translated to turkish
She and ,sophie 'even i wasnt arround when she was here much' erdinc,admin and Sui in my opinion were the main contributors to the Poetry section in TC.
İ personally miss that all among few things too...
As having a class to start with !
I just noticed that too. She will be missed. Even though I often disagreed with her, the ability to have a dialogue was good.
When did you have a dialogue with her? Did I miss it? She was calling you a "little mind" living in an "ape age", is that what you are referring to... ???
People, please tell me some titles of good romantic movies. I'm out of ideas...
"Message in a Bottle" with Kevin Costner
I bought this movie about 6months ago, I watched this movie for 15 minutes and I found it boring so I stopped and stored it. Last week I decided to play it again and give it a chance. It is not one of the best movies I have seen but I really liked it.
People, please tell me some titles of good romantic movies. I'm out of ideas...
"Message in a Bottle" with Kevin Costner
I bought this movie about 6months ago, I watched this movie for 15 minutes and I found it boring so I stopped and stored it. Last week I decided to play it again and give it a chance. It is not one of the best movies I have seen but I really liked it.
People, please tell me some titles of good romantic movies. I'm out of ideas...
"Message in a Bottle" with Kevin Costner
I bought this movie about 6months ago, I watched this movie for 15 minutes and I found it boring so I stopped and stored it. Last week I decided to play it again and give it a chance. It is not one of the best movies I have seen but I really liked it.
Such a sad ending!!
Right! I wasnt expecting that kind of ending, so it really made me cry
I am still trying to figure out how "King Kong - 1933 - Fay Wray" is in that list..
Beautiful woman falls in love with hairy guerilla...I donno handsom....why would that be romantic? I think you are on the wrong site to ask that question.
I am still trying to figure out how "King Kong - 1933 - Fay Wray" is in that list..
why hansom? because King Kong was too hairy? hairy ones do fall in love too, dont they?
I should have guessed this would come as an answer.
watch your words then
haha
I have to confess actually.
I am sure it happens to you girls as well. But when I was young and when we watched the movies all my friends would identify themselves with Richard Gere, J Nicholson, Tom Cruise etc. But I could not..Somehow, they did not fit to me..
But when I first saw the King Kong (with Jessica Lange) in it, OMG, it was the moment for me..
I am still trying to figure out how "King Kong - 1933 - Fay Wray" is in that list..
why hansom? because King Kong was too hairy? hairy ones do fall in love too, dont they?
I should have guessed this would come as an answer.
watch your words then
haha
I have to confess actually.
I am sure it happens to you girls as well. But when I was young and when we watched the movies all my friends would identify themselves with Richard Gere, J Nicholson, Tom Cruise etc. But I could not..Somehow, they did not fit to me..
But when I first saw the King Kong (with Jessica Lange) in it, OMG, it was the moment for me..
I am still trying to figure out how "King Kong - 1933 - Fay Wray" is in that list..
Beautiful woman falls in love with hairy guerilla...I donno handsom....why would that be romantic? I think you are on the wrong site to ask that question.
Elisabeth..I think King Kong was gorilla not a guerilla.
or i donno..I dont remember..
was he figthing for some kind of freedom or his country was under occupation? :-S
Thanks for the list Elis... I was thinking of your own favorites actually... I did google the lists.. but you know, some of the movies they have there aren't exactly what I like.
King Kong.... god, I didn't like it!!!
My favorite so far is of course Dirty Dancing, although Swayze is exaggerating the macho attitude a little bit
I am still trying to figure out how "King Kong - 1933 - Fay Wray" is in that list..
Beautiful woman falls in love with hairy guerilla...I donno handsom....why would that be romantic? I think you are on the wrong site to ask that question.
Elisabeth..I think King Kong was gorilla not a guerilla.
or i donno..I dont remember..
was he figthing for some kind of freedom or his country was under occupation? :-S
When I was a small child and there was news about guerillas, I thought they ment gorillas....it was an odd image.....then I thought beams were beans...imagine long green beans holding things up
Swayze is exaggerating the macho attitude a little bit
Who cares!! The man can DANCE!!!!!!!!! sigh
I know! He can dance, he sings the song "She's like the wind" and he said that conventionally good looking people turn him off! Needless to say... he's great
Swayze is exaggerating the macho attitude a little bit
Who cares!! The man can DANCE!!!!!!!!! sigh
I know! He can dance, he sings the song "She's like the wind" and he said that conventionally good looking people turn him off! Needless to say... he's great
He was in the UK last year. Has he had surgery on his face? He looked odd.
I LOVE John Cusack! Which brings to mind another favorite...."Say Anything". When he holds that boom box over his head and it's playing "In Your Eyes", I melted.
I LOVE John Cusack! Which brings to mind another favorite...."Say Anything". When he holds that boom box over his head and it's playing "In Your Eyes", I melted.
Oh! How nice to find another fan - a lot of people I know don't even know who he is He is such a good actor and his films are so diverse. 'Say Anything' is one I haven't seen - did it have a different title in the UK I wonder?
Oh! How nice to find another fan - a lot of people I know don't even know who he is He is such a good actor and his films are so diverse. 'Say Anything' is one I haven't seen - did it have a different title in the UK I wonder?
OMG! If you love John Cusack that is a must see!
I don't know if it had a different title overseas.
Oh! How nice to find another fan - a lot of people I know don't even know who he is He is such a good actor and his films are so diverse. 'Say Anything' is one I haven't seen - did it have a different title in the UK I wonder?
OMG! If you love John Cusack that is a must see!
I don't know if it had a different title overseas.
Just checked ImDb - it didn't! I will look out for this one
People, please tell me some titles of good romantic movies. I'm out of ideas...
A couple of other good, light-hearted ones are "French Kiss" and "Hope Floats".
A lot of my favourites have been mentioned already but I would add:
Serendipity (John Cusack)
Benny and Joon (Johnny Depp)
Romeo and Juliet - any version really
Falling in Love (Robert de Niro/Meryl Streep)
Serendipity is a good film, one of those light hearted romantic films, with a happy ending.
Similar types are:
The Lake House Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves
While You were sleeping Sandra Bullock
You got Mail Tom Hanks is a remake of the James Stewart film "The little shop around the corner"
Big - Tom Hanks
One film I have always liked is St Elmo's Fire it's a 'brat pack' film and I always liked Andrew MaCarthy
I love Edward Scissorhands too . . . but sad
So many on that long list that I liked.
The remake of A Star is Born with Barbara Striesand and Kriss Kristofferson was enjoyable too.
I'm not a Titanic fan I'm afraid.
Perhaps King Kong is another Hunchback of Notra Dame story.
İ want to buy Windows Microsoft,and im confused what to buy,XP or Vista ?!
XP stable,but at same time,misses Vista's features,and lots of programs wont support it by time
Vista,looks cool,but afraid of bugs,or cracking down ! :-S
İ want to buy Windows Microsoft,and im confused what to buy,XP or Vista ?!
XP stable,but at same time,misses Vista's features,and lots of programs wont support it by time
Vista,looks cool,but afraid of bugs,or cracking down ! :-S
.
Right now I am running XP on my PC and Vista on my laptop. For me, XP is so much more user friendly. I was actually thinking of dumping the Vista on my laptop and loading XP. I have a lot of trouble running other programs with it...not so much new ones but some of my older ones. Vista does look cool but it is a huge difference from the older versions.
Right now I am running XP on my PC and Vista on my laptop. For me, XP is so much more user friendly. I was actually thinking of dumping the Vista on my laptop and loading XP. I have a lot of trouble running other programs with it...not so much new ones but some of my older ones. Vista does look cool but it is a huge difference from the older versions.
I am doing exactly the same...XP on PC, Vista on laptop. I love the look of Vista, and I have no problems with it, but I do not run a lot of programs on my laptop. I have heard this can be a problem.
XP is tried and true and if you are going to be running a lot of programs, it is probably the safer bet.
I am getting quite bored..If i dont see any interesting posts very soon I will start posting recipes of lambs head and feet soup, tripe soup with yummy pictures!!!
I am getting quite bored..If i dont see any interesting posts very soon I will start posting recipes of lambs head and feet soup, tripe soup with yummy pictures!!!
They have done it again,and had the thread locked!
Cant they see they gain NOTHİNG,and they do NOT change people's minds,and what in people's minds STİLL in their minds ?!
hi.
i have a question to kind members here:
i am going to Istanbul soon.
i will be a free woman, nothing to turn back for.
does anybody know a nice loving home and a warm heart?
i am looking for one.
my description: messy and wild until contrary probation.
loving, trustful and bliss bringing to a home.
any suggestions are welcomed to enter the courtyard. (NB Teaschip: only the courtyard...)
hi.
i have a question to kind members here:
i am going to Istanbul soon.
i will be a free woman, nothing to turn back for.
does anybody know a nice loving home and a warm heart?
i am looking for one.
my description: messy and wild until contrary probation.
loving, trustful and bliss bringing to a home.
any suggestions are welcomed to enter the courtyard. (NB Teaschip: only the courtyard...)
thank you. Porto(kal)
i think you looking for star on land instead of sky,anyway good luck on ur search
I know! He can dance, he sings the song 'She's like the wind' and he said that conventionally good looking people turn him off! Needless to say... he's great
Sad news about Swayze today kitty....
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=95c876d8-ec3c-4835-92fa-31f160865351
I know! He can dance, he sings the song 'She's like the wind' and he said that conventionally good looking people turn him off! Needless to say... he's great
Sad news about Swayze today kitty....
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=95c876d8-ec3c-4835-92fa-31f160865351
I wonder how Baby is enduring his illness, but looks like his prognosis is good
I am shocked! I always got angry at Turkey for having madde 301, but it turns out that our great Kingdom of the Netherlands has a law 111 and 112 from 1881 that can imprison people for a max. of 5 years who speak rude of our queen!!(or king for that matter)! I am shocked!
It barely ever is used (last year there was a conviction) but still!!! Aaah!
I am shocked! I always got angry at Turkey for having madde 301, but it turns out that our great Kingdom of the Netherlands has a law 111 and 112 from 1881 that can imprison people for a max. of 5 years who speak rude of our queen!!(or king for that matter)! I am shocked!
It barely ever is used (last year there was a conviction) but still!!! Aaah!
I'm not surprised with these sentences.
As you see that Netherland has been protecting their ID, national-sovereign state, and their leaders since 1881. because of this, Netherland is a nationalist state or kingdom. See the power of Netherlands
Turkish identity is very important for the Turkish people and the people who absorbed as a Turk. Hence, it's a fault when a comprador person insults their identity. It's very normal.
You still haven't realized that every states in Europe don't resemble each other. Germany doesn't resemble to France, France doesn't resemble to Spain, Spain doesn't resemble to England etc...
all European states are nationalist states, because of the affection of French Revolution in 1789.
it is very ironic that you havent realized the concept of Europe and now being shocked with that law despite living in Netherlands for a long time.
You have to mind your own business as soon as possible and if you are preparing to give an idea for a topic, you have to make an investigation and a good knowledge of that topic as Uğur Mumcu says "bilgi sahibi olmadan, fikir sahibi olunmaz".
Our constitution is a silly one, I recognze that. However you do not recognize how aptal your madde 301 is. THAT is the difference between you and me Got it?
As you see that Netherland has been protecting their ID, nationa-sovereign state, and their leaders since 1881. because of this, Netherland is a nationalist state or kingdom. See the power of Netherlands?
Protecting the Royal Family from socalled insults(not its leaders! but the RF), is ridicuous, yet does not create a nationalistic state. Every country has nationalists. I have no problem with yurtsever. But there is something different about the milliyetçilik and ülkücülük in Turkey. Anyway I dont get how you got talking about Turkey when I was merely just talking about a country you apparantly have never been too.
Quoting adonis:
Turkish identity is very important for the Turkish people and the people who absorbed as a Turk. Hence, it's a fault when a comprador person insults their identity. It's very normal.
Normal? You can say that all Dutch people are cocain using prostitutes. I couldnt care less. My identity needs no protection as I dont let it get insulted.
Quoting adonis:
You still haven't realized that every states in Europe don't resemble each other. Germany doesn't resemble to France, France doesn't resemble to Spain, Spain doesn't resemble to England etc...
Haha. Where did I speak of those countries and say they are all the same?
Quoting adonis:
all European states are nationalist states, because of the affection of French Revolution in 1789.
It is also YOUR republic that got its leading ideas in nationalist movements from these. Did you actually know that the word TÜRKİYE was derived from the French Turquie and the British Turkey, since that is what diplomats used when talking about Ottoman Empire?
Quoting adonis:
it is very ironic that you havent realized the concept of Europe and now being shocked with that law despite living in Netherlands for a long time.
What the hell are you talking about.
Quoting adonis:
You have to mind your own business as soon as possible and if you are preparing to give an idea for a topic, you have to make an investigation and a good knowledge of that topic as Uğur Mumcu says "bilgi sahibi olmadan, fikir sahibi olunmaz".
Im sorry but WHAT are you talking about? And WHAT point are you trying to make? Its not like you are an investigator here ey?
I think Murat Belge had some investigation about our beloved 301 and similaries in other countries in Europe.
The link is here :
http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=216062
Unfortunately it is Turkish..
Gist of it is:
Politicians in Turkey keeps telling about 'Oh there are same type of laws in Europe' for their defence.
Basically there is no such VAUGE concept like we have in Turkey. That vauge concept is 'Turkishness' of course.
You can not find apparantly 'insulting dutchness', 'insulting britishness' or similar in any countries in Europe
But we have it in Turkey 'insulting turkishness'
It is a shame really..
a link from bbc:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6343809.stm
And also we should not forget that all those people who were taken to court become the target by the racist thugs in Turkey.
Hrant Dink is the most famous one who was murdered for example.
Orhan Pamuk was in the list as well
I think Murat Belge had some investigation about our beloved 301 and similaries in other countries in Europe.
The link is here :
http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=216062
Unfortunately it is Turkish..
Gist of it is:
Politicians in Turkey keeps telling about 'Oh there are same type of laws in Europe' for their defence.
Basically there is no such VAUGE concept like we have in Turkey. That vauge concept is 'Turkishness' of course.
You can not find apparantly 'insulting dutchness', 'insulting britishness' or similar in any countries in Europe
But we have it in Turkey 'insulting turkishness'
It is a shame really..
a link from bbc:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6343809.stm
And also we should not forget that all those people who were taken to court become the target by the racist thugs in Turkey.
Hrant Dink is the most famous one who was murdered for example.
Orhan Pamuk was in the list as well
are u mentioning Orhan Pamuk handsom? essentially Orhan Pamuk is a dead person. I mean "living dead person (yaşayan ölü)"
we don't care the authors who have an habit of doing PLAGIARISM.
we don't care about the authors who don't know their main languages fluently..
we don't care about the expressions of the authors who have an habit of dogmatization without giving sources.
Tell me what it says in French constitution? I really like to know because I have no idea..I am serious..
The French law and the Holocaust
Also the Armenian affair
Dont you know who deny or question any of them go to prison?
Did you hear about Roger Garaudy ?!
Tell me what it says in French constitution? I really like to know because I have no idea..I am serious..
The French law and the Holocaust
Also the Armenian affair
Dont you know who deny or question any of them go to prison?
Did you hear about Roger Garaudy ?!
Canli, I was asking if there is something similar to our 301 in french constitution..
are u mentioning Orhan Pamuk handsom? essentially Orhan Pamuk is a dead person. I mean "living dead person (yaşayan ölü)"
You are a living example of why 301 should BE abolished..!!
you are a living example of why comprador neo-liberals should be abolished..
Truths are Painful (Gerçekler Acıdır Koçum, hadi sen okumaya devam et o hırsız yazarı...
Yes..As a turk you want to KILL other turks..
And call this being patriotic?
Are you advocating those murders?
Are you saying that you are going to kill ORHAN PAMUK?
Tell me what it says in French constitution? I really like to know because I have no idea..I am serious..
The French law and the Holocaust
Also the Armenian affair
Dont you know who deny or question any of them go to prison?
Did you hear about Roger Garaudy ?!
Canli, I was asking if there is something similar to our 301 in french constitution..
İm not aware if there is something similar to it or not,but you have mentioned Orhan Pamuk ,and that is similar to him...
And not only in France actually,and not only him !
David İrving
are u mentioning Orhan Pamuk handsom? essentially Orhan Pamuk is a dead person. I mean "living dead person (yaşayan ölü)"
You are a living example of why 301 should BE abolished..!!
you are a living example of why comprador neo-liberals should be abolished..
Truths are Painful (Gerçekler Acıdır Koçum, hadi sen okumaya devam et o hırsız yazarı...
Yes..As a turk you want to KILL other turks..
And call this being patriotic?
Are you advocating those murders?
Are you saying that you are going to kill ORHAN PAMUK?
no, as i said b4 that Orhan Pamuk is a living dead person. So, we don't care whether he lives or not...
handsom,not because they are developed coutries means they are ALL goods,and not because we are growing countries means we are ALL bads !
As i believe your republic has been formed in the 30th of the 19 century
They were away ahead of you...!
İ dont say you have,or you are all goods,nope,you have things you need to change it to be better,but also you have many things you need to keep to be best !
İ dont really see walking on the west steps without reconsidering will take us to that better place
İ dont want to have same problems as they have,specially their social problems !
So,i believe we have to work it some other way,not ours,and not theirs,but something in between,so we try to have what is good in us and what is good in them also .
Yes..As a turk you want to KILL other turks..
And call this being patriotic?
Are you advocating those murders?
Are you saying that you are going to kill ORHAN PAMUK?
no, as i said b4 that Orhan Pamuk is a living dead person. So, we don't care whether he lives or not...
he's a very incurable person as u see..
I am abit mistified now..
You seemed very praud of Orhan Pamuk being a living dead person..
It just seemed you are keen on the idea that he should be killed..
Are you not?
Yes..As a turk you want to KILL other turks..
And call this being patriotic?
Are you advocating those murders?
Are you saying that you are going to kill ORHAN PAMUK?
no, as i said b4 that Orhan Pamuk is a living dead person. So, we don't care whether he lives or not...
he's a very incurable person as u see..
I am abit mistified now..
You seemed very praud of Orhan Pamuk being a living dead person..
It just seemed you are keen on the idea that he should be killed..
Are you not?
I'm only ignoring an author who has an habit of "PLAGIARISM" and hasn't got an ability to use Turkish with his incurable personality.
handsom,not because they are developed coutries means they are ALL goods,and not because we are growing countries means we are ALL bads !
As i believe your republic has been formed in the 30th of the 19 century
They were away ahead of you...!
İ dont say you have,or you are all goods,nope,you have things you need to change it to be better,but also you have many things you need to keep to be best !
İ dont really see walking on the west steps without reconsidering will take us to that better place
İ dont want to have same problems as they have,specially their social problems !
So,i believe we have to work it some other way,not ours,and not theirs,but something in between,so we try to have what is good in us and what is good in them also .
Canli
I never said "they are ALL goods"
I was just trying to establish the fact that no EU country has something like 301. And also this has been mentioned by all politicans turkey that they have.
But when you look at their constitutions they dont.
That is what we are talking about here. Not that 'they are all goodies and we are not'
And as far my country is concerned, that law is making my country's intellects targets for racist thugs. And they are getting killed..
Of course I will oppose it.
And look at above:
A person is publicly praising those killings..(I wonder what peace loving PT and alemeda wil think of that )
handsom,not because they are developed coutries means they are ALL goods,and not because we are growing countries means we are ALL bads !
As i believe your republic has been formed in the 30th of the 19 century
They were away ahead of you...!
İ dont say you have,or you are all goods,nope,you have things you need to change it to be better,but also you have many things you need to keep to be best !
İ dont really see walking on the west steps without reconsidering will take us to that better place
İ dont want to have same problems as they have,specially their social problems !
So,i believe we have to work it some other way,not ours,and not theirs,but something in between,so we try to have what is good in us and what is good in them also .
Canli
I never said "they are ALL goods"
I was just trying to establish the fact that no EU country has something like 301. And also this has been mentioned by all politicans turkey that they have.
But when you look at their constitutions they dont.
That is what we are talking about here. Not that 'they are all goodies and we are not'
And as far my country is concerned, that law is making my country's intellects targets for racist thugs. And they are getting killed..
Of course I will oppose it.
And look at above:
A person is publicly praising those killings..(I wonder what peace loving PT and alemeda wil think of that )
Stating the fact about France and others doesnt mean that i agree on your law either.
İ mean,what if people will say what they think,how can that harm the nation ?!
But look this ....i dont really know wether to call it conflict or similarity ?!
Türkiye has this law,which by it,anyone criticise Türkiye ''İTSELF'' will be threantend to prison !
They ''i dont actually know how many of the West countries have it'' have that law,when criticizing event of ANOTHER country or nation will be threatned to prison..!
handsom,not because they are developed coutries means they are ALL goods,and not because we are growing countries means we are ALL bads !
As i believe your republic has been formed in the 30th of the 19 century
They were away ahead of you...!
İ dont say you have,or you are all goods,nope,you have things you need to change it to be better,but also you have many things you need to keep to be best !
İ dont really see walking on the west steps without reconsidering will take us to that better place
İ dont want to have same problems as they have,specially their social problems !
So,i believe we have to work it some other way,not ours,and not theirs,but something in between,so we try to have what is good in us and what is good in them also .
Canli
I never said "they are ALL goods"
I was just trying to establish the fact that no EU country has something like 301. And also this has been mentioned by all politicans turkey that they have.
But when you look at their constitutions they dont.
That is what we are talking about here. Not that 'they are all goodies and we are not'
And as far my country is concerned, that law is making my country's intellects targets for racist thugs. And they are getting killed..
Of course I will oppose it.
And look at above:
A person is publicly praising those killings..(I wonder what peace loving PT and alemeda wil think of that )
I don't agree with such killings and I don't agree with praising such killings. I believe Turkish citizens have the right to voice their opinions.
I don't understand why you may have the suspicion I would think otherwise. Tell me Handsom . . . where do you place yourself on the continuum of stupidity?
handsom, you are the worst defender of the incurable-thief author Orhan Pamuk. anyway, you were advising a book from Mehdi Zana who is a pkk terrorist to janissary. i'm not surprised with your advertisements, cuz it's your another business in this site.
I gave a link to this forum yesterday but maybe you hadn't seen that link. I'm giving that link again now.
Right to Left: Celal Talabani, Abdullah Öcalan (Apo, the head of pkk terrorist organization), Mehdi Zana (author who you fall in love deeply), Ahmet Türk (DTP parliament).
Tell me Handsom . . . where do you place yourself on the continuum of stupidity?
I would be careful if I were you, PT..
You are going up close personal here!!
OK, you are saying I am close to you . . . if that is so then you are not on the continuum of stupidity
Close and personal . . . I think I would prefer to be referred to as stupid rather than someone who may support someone who praises killings.
I told you, go ahead make me look stupid. It won't hurt me. However, don't paint me as a possible sympathiser of violence. That would be a very ugly thing to do.
I have been told by many Turks that it is only the ones who can't read well, who do not enjoy Orhan Pamuks books
Attacks on him are not based on his use of language in his books (as anyone with literature-interest can see that it is magnificent), they are based on what he says outside his books.
I have been told by many Turks that it is only the ones who can't read well, who do not enjoy Orhan Pamuks books
Attacks on him are not based on his use of language in his books (as anyone with literature-interest can see that it is magnificent), they are based on what he says outside his books.
sorry I m trying to improve my reading
we are not critising his language or his novels. but u must know that there are many important turkish writers, maybe more important than Orhan Pamuk, and he accepts this too. I cant compare Atilla İlhan or Necip Fazıl Kısakürek with Orhan Pamuk. Nobel award doesnt show he is a perfect writer and everybody knows how did he manage to get this award.
I have been told by many Turks that it is only the ones who can't read well, who do not enjoy Orhan Pamuks books
Attacks on him are not based on his use of language in his books (as anyone with literature-interest can see that it is magnificent), they are based on what he says outside his books.
This is true though. we were discussing him a year ago in a Turkish forum. This guy was furious about O Pamuk. And I asked him if he read any of his books. He replied: 'yes. The snow'. And then I asked 'tell me then what your critisism is about that book'. He went 'imperyalism, USA, EU etc etc' Of course the book did not have anything to do with those!!
This is true though. we were discussing him a year ago in a Turkish forum. This guy was furious about O Pamuk. And I asked him if he read any of his books. He replied: 'yes. The snow'. And then I asked 'tell me then what your critisism is about that book'. He went 'imperyalism, USA, EU etc etc' Of course the book did not have anything to do with those!!
Hahaha yes. Actually that is one of the few books that is more iç looking! But definitely not the best choice to read first! It's a difficult book and a bit boring compared to his other writings if you ask me!
we are not critising his language or his novels. but u must know that there are many important turkish writers, maybe more important than Orhan Pamuk, and he accepts this too. I cant compare Atilla İlhan or Necip Fazıl Kısakürek with Orhan Pamuk. Nobel award doesnt show he is a perfect writer and everybody knows how did he manage to get this award.
You are just speaking for yourself now Adonis just criticized his language
Ofcourse. And I never said that OP is the greates writer. I love Atilla İlhan too (I shall write down the other and read a book of him soon too), and my favourite are Yaşar Kemal and Nazım Kemal. I never said he is a perfect writer (but I guess I do think so), and the accusations of how he won the nobel, seem highly overrated to me. Not saying he should have got it over other Turkish writers, but Nobel also has to do with how many people read your book
u are not aware of it but ur post is insulting ppl who dont like OP. of course he is good. it s nonsense to argue about who is best. like arguing about which colour is the most beautiful.
u are not aware of it but ur post is insulting ppl who dont like OP. of course he is good. it s nonsense to argue about who is best. like arguing about which colour is the most beautiful.
Turks are way too easily insulted. Whether you like him or not, is just a matter or personal style. I am not debating that at all But you can't deny there are many people who dont like his books, just because he said something about genocide that people do not wish to hear! Now that is ridiculous. If you just dont like his writing style, you wont hear me comment on it at all I, for one, don't like Elif Şafak at all. But that has nothing to do with the fact she speaks about Armenian genocide. I just think she is a rubbish author
we are not critising his language or his novels. but u must know that there are many important turkish writers, maybe more important than Orhan Pamuk, and he accepts this too. I cant compare Atilla İlhan or Necip Fazıl Kısakürek with Orhan Pamuk. Nobel award doesnt show he is a perfect writer and everybody knows how did he manage to get this award.
You are just speaking for yourself now Adonis just criticized his language
Ofcourse. And I never said that OP is the greates writer. I love Atilla İlhan too (I shall write down the other and read a book of him soon too), and my favourite are Yaşar Kemal and Nazım Kemal. I never said he is a perfect writer (but I guess I do think so), and the accusations of how he won the nobel, seem highly overrated to me. Not saying he should have got it over other Turkish writers, but Nobel also has to do with how many people read your book
I criticized not only the language of Orhan Pamuk, but also the plagiarism from the other book to his novel so-called "Beyaz Kale". He's a thief as u see. Look at this link please:
Orhan Pamuk didn't win the Nobel Prize, the Nobel Prize was given to him.. do you see the nuance?
Turkish EU secretary and author, Oğuz Demiralp criticized Orhan Pamuk quite a lot. He states that Orhan Pamuk uses a very bad Turkish in his novels (including plagiarized novels), and adds that if the jury of the Nobel Prize had read the novels of him in original language, Turkish, presumably they wouldn't have decided to give the prize to Orhan Pamuk. look at the link please...
DK, you said this: "...and my favourite are Yaşar Kemal and Nazım Kemal."
We know that there is no existence of this author in the history of Turkish literature so-called: "Nazım Kemal". maybe that person is an imaginary person of you.
Hey, handsom, you still haven't described the photo which i had given to you before. You were advising the book of Mehdi Zana to janissary. Maybe you don't know that Mehdi Zana is a pkk terrorist and the husband of Leyla Zana, the provocative parliamenter of DEP in 1991.
I'm not suprised for your advertisement, cuz it's your another job in this site. Please describe this photo to me. I'm waiting your answer.
Mehdi Zana ve Halay Arkadaşları - Körler Sağırlar Birbirini Parmaklar
English:
"Mehdi Zana and his halay friends - deafs and blinds, finger each other"
Worth replying?
Mehdi Zana ve Halay Arkadaşları - Körler Sağırlar Birbirini Parmaklar
English:
"Mehdi Zana and his halay friends - deafs and blinds, finger each other"
Worth replying?
are all turks so bitter and jealous? just wondering :-S
what is your problem with handsom's post? why did you have to attack him personally again? is it that you're just bitter and weak and can't respond to him in a reasonable way when you disagree with him, but instead you are harassing him whenever you see his posts? pity on you.
are all turks so bitter and jealous? just wondering :-S
what is your problem with handsom's post? why did you have to attack him personally again? is it that you're just bitter and weak and can't respond to him in a reasonable way when you disagree with him, but instead you are harassing him whenever you see his posts? pity on you.
his post showed he is capable of carrying a conversation with his examples too.
I dont know what you mean by that? Please explain..
I am trying not to answer him and I gave reasons in my previous posts why.
Ok I will repeat again:
"I find him too SHALLOW" OK?
happy now?
his post showed he is capable of carrying a conversation with his examples too.
I dont know what you mean by that? Please explain..
I am trying not to answer him and I gave reasons in my previous posts why.
Ok I will repeat again:
"I find him too SHALLOW" OK? happy?
gentelmen..
both of you..
shining boys (turkish: hamam oglanlari).. Look, listen
None of you produced an argument so far..
Come up with an idea..
just an idea!!
A single one WITHOUT swearing..
WITHOUT INSULTING TURKEY..
You really are embarresing my country and yourselves..
gentelmen..both of you..shining boys.. Look, listen
None of you produced an argument so far..
Come up with an idea..
just an idea!!
A single one WITHOUT swearing..
WITHOUT INSULTING TURKEY..
You really are embarresing my country and yourselves..
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
Oh that was a typo. Obviously I meant Nazım Hikmet Sorry for the inconvenience!
Oh and Id like to add, I would be very dissappointed if that were to be true, that he has stolen But.. as we say: better stolen well, than created badly.
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
gentelmen..
both of you..
shining boys (turkish: hamam oglanlari).. Look, listen
None of you produced an argument so far..
Come up with an idea..
just an idea!!
A single one WITHOUT swearing..
WITHOUT INSULTING TURKEY..
You really are embarresing my country and yourselves..
Maybe you capsized a lorry last night, and now you are talking with this way.
i have given creditable sources with my ideas, but if you still haven't handled on them, it's your problem, not mine.
don't cry handsom, we are here to consolate you...
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
It's time you translated a new erotic poem now dear handsom..
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
you see, u cant carry a conversation without insulting. adonis made u a document and resource "manyak". you still trying
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
you see, u cant carry a conversation without insulting. adonis made u a document and resource "manyak". you still trying
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
you see, u cant carry a conversation without insulting. adonis made u a document and resource "manyak". you still trying
I did not read it actually..I will look..
you didn't read it, cuz that post doesn't suit yourself.
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
you see, u cant carry a conversation without insulting. adonis made u a document and resource "manyak". you still trying
I did not read it actually..I will look..
you didn't read it, cuz that post doesn't suit yourself.
haha, sorry I thought u know turkish. Im sorry I couldnt learn kurdish yet.
Its a forum rule. Especially now that you are in an attack to the handsome together with adonis, I think all you say should be understandable for all members.
Adonis, you too. You shall have to write your posts in English on a forum like this, otherwise it will be just a waste of your typingtime, as Ill be erasing your posts.
ne idea'sı. neden bahsediyosun anlamadım. Turkish class'ı gelistirme vakfını mı kurdun?
All Turkish class know ur good ideas. u came up with an idea which is an erotic poem and u made everybody busy on it. so now you think u come with good ideas.
I knew you would not understand either..
you see, u cant carry a conversation without insulting. adonis made u a document and resource "manyak". you still trying
I did not read it actually..I will look..
you didn't read it, cuz that post doesn't suit yourself.
got it?
Unbearable lightness of shining boys, you
Duvara sıkışan kedi tırmalar, handsom'da da bu olayı görüyoruz. Is it painful?
can u translate it in kurdish too. some friends cant understand. and is this cat a "kurdish cat" or a "iraq cat". I really wonder
You know that the only reason that I still talk to you is because you are close to someone that is my friend too.. Otherwise I would have given up talking to you long time ago.
Just like your good old brother, you start throwing insults at me again that have to do with Kurdish. I'm sick and tired of it.
You know that the only reason that I still talk to you is because you are close to someone that is my friend too.. Otherwise I would have given up talking to you long time ago.
Just like your good old brother, you start throwing insults at me again that have to do with Kurdish. I'm sick and tired of it.
it seems u are easily offended too, like male members from turkey u dont have to talk with me, I wouldnt feel sad, if you didnt. I havent said anything wrong to you now and long time ago, maybe helped you.
I will be happy if you keep my brother out of this conversation, coz ı respect him
it seems u are easily offended too, like male members from turkey u dont have to talk with me, I wouldnt feel sad, if you didnt. I havent said anything wrong to you now and long time ago, maybe helped you.
I will be happy if you keep my brother out of this conversation, coz ı respect him
Im easily offended when it comes to people using Kurdish as something bad
I remember the times when you helped. I also recall the times you were a complete .... whose ideas are not compatible with mine And they sort of overshadowed it all..
Sorry for dragging Osman in then, that was a good one
You know that the only reason that I still talk to you is because you are close to someone that is my friend too.. Otherwise I would have given up talking to you long time ago.
Just like your good old brother, you start throwing insults at me again that have to do with Kurdish. I'm sick and tired of it.
look at the actress who plays the role of victim. yes, you are really easily offended as your claim.
I like history very much, cuz it's very creditable to prove the truths. okay, let's look at DK's previous posts:
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Quoting AEnigma III:
Will go and have a lie down....
"Do you feel dizzy thinking of Adonis?"
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the other one is this:
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S*kt*r git lan!
İğrençsin. Yazık güzel ülkemize!
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what a wonderful and excellent moderator we have. if you look her previous posts from her profile, u can easily find the examples of them.
now, you are blaming us to insult you dear DK. who insult you?
what about you? you had better look at yourself, and then blame us. _______________
I won't write again about this topic, cuz it's enough..
Adonis, you're funny You are taking examples that are taken completely out of context. If we quoted some of your posts here, you would look really meak, dear.
DK gets easily offended! This couldn't be more hilarious coming from you!
you are admin not me. there must be a punishment, if u think a member is bad.
Haha. You're not that bad a member, Janis! I just dont like some of your ideas. As long as you express them peacefully and respectfully, there's nothing I can do about it.
what? is Nutuk filled with lies??? and u mean Ataturk lied in his book? how do you know this?
I am afraid it is.. in Nutuk he claimed that the entire kurtuluş savaşı, and the entire funding of the Türkiye Cumhuriyeti was all from the start his idea.. but when we look at historical facts and things that other people from that area wrote, we know that he was not the one who created the nationalist movements and it was never his first idea to create a new Turkish republic out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire. Yet, he said in Nutuk that from the start it was his plan. But his own writings and writings from organizations he was in in earlier times, contradict these.
Turkish history books use the data that Atatürk uses in his speech Nutuk. Unfortuantely they are a bit coloured and not entirely true.
note - I am not claiming that the entire speech is a lie! Atatürk just 'left out' some parts that were essential for his victory, to make it look like he alone accomplished this and to make it sound that for years he had dreamt of a Turkish republic, however, that was just a thought that emerged in the later years.
what? is Nutuk filled with lies??? and u mean Ataturk lied in his book? how do you know this?
I am afraid it is.. in Nutuk he claimed that the entire kurtuluş savaşı, and the entire funding of the Türkiye Cumhuriyeti was all from the start his idea.. but when we look at historical facts and things that other people from that area wrote, we know that he was not the one who created the nationalist movements and it was never his first idea to create a new Turkish republic out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire. Yet, he said in Nutuk that from the start it was his plan. But his own writings and writings from organizations he was in in earlier times, contradict these.
Turkish history books use the data that Atatürk uses in his speech Nutuk. Unfortuantely they are a bit coloured and not entirely true.
you are being so funny now. ı dont know who thought these to you. I wish these were ur own thoughts. I give you a homeworn, read more about ataturk and conditions in that time.
you are being so funny now. ı dont know who thought these to you. I wish these were ur own thoughts. I give you a homeworn, read more about ataturk and conditions in that time.
I am afraid you learnt history from books that were provided to you at school. I have seen some orta okul and lise history books. Kurdistan, obviously isnt mentioned on maps that show the division of Ottoman Empire according to Lausanne. As Lausanne did not mention it But Sevres did mention a small independent Kurdistan. I have not seen one single schoolbook that marked that area, though turkish political leaders signed Sevres.
University books of history are even worse. A friend of mine, studyign Fizik, has to take history in her first year. I saw her book. It is definitely not a scientific history book!
No, they were not my own thoughts. But Zürcher provided me with enough material, to check whether his ideas on turkish periodisation where right.
As I said before, Nutuk is not an entire lie. Obviously more of it is right than false. Yet, Atatürk twisted some facts. For example, the nationalist congres of Sivas, was organized by Atatürk. However, this was not the FİRST nationalistic kongre. There was one earlier, in Erzurum, not organized by Atatürk. He didnt want to go there, but had to go there as a civilian (the sultan had just fired him). If it wasnt for Kazim Karabekir, he maybe wouldnt have regained that much power. In other words, it was clear that at that time it wasnt so sure that Atatürk was the one and only leader of the nationalistic movement. However, he claims to be so.
Also, Nutuk is a speech held on the SECOND party congres of the Halk Partisi. However, when was the first one?? HP was founded in 1923, but in that year there was no party congres. The kongre of Sivas is seen as the first party congres, though at that time the Halk Partisi didnt exist yet. In this way, the whole history of the independence of Turkey, is being claimed by the new party of Atatürk.
Periodisation can influence the image people have of history..
there isnt kurdistan on maps, coz there is not a country called kurdistan. if you mean the maps in ur country, east of turkey belongs to another country even most of black sea
about ataturk, u are missing one important part, I think ur professors missed it too, yes there were meeting before ataturk but they were tring to save their region, not all turkey. Ataturk gave the idea to save all country not city by city.
I still insist on homework, I will do an exam to you. good night
there isnt kurdistan on maps, coz there is not a country called kurdistan. if you mean the maps in ur country, east of turkey belongs to another country even most of black sea
Ofcourse there is no Kurdistan. But in Lausanne, everybody signed for a Kurdistan to be there. In Turkish schoolbooks, they do not mention Kurdistan when talking about Lausanne. So that is really wrong! (Im not debating whether there is or is not kurdistan or whether it should be there or not. its just a simple fact that many of yoru schoolbooks dont show the truth about what we all signed in Lausanne)
about ataturk, u are missing one important part, I think ur professors missed it too, yes there were meeting before ataturk but they were tring to save their region, not all turkey. Ataturk gave the idea to save all country not city by city.
You are right. He was the first to do it on a country basis. Yet, he claims that he was the first of all nationalistic movements Which is not true. Actually, when they go to sign Lausanne, it is a strange situation: there is no sultan, just a kalif, and there is no official parliament but only the National Meclis. When Atatürk is asked whether the Ottoman Empire still exists or something new has emerged, he says 'Not a monarchy, not a republic'. This is in contrast with him saying in Nutuk that from the start he wanted to found a republic
I still insist on homework, I will do an exam to you. good night
Im sure I dont have enough knowledge yet to take an entire exam on this topic. Next week I'll buy Nutuk in Turkey and read it entirely. But you surely have not enough knowledge to create an exam either.
if you mean the maps in ur country, east of turkey belongs to another country even most of black sea
What do you mean? I have never seen a map of Turkey in my schoolbooks, claiming that there is such a thing as an independent Kurdistan. We call that area Kurdistan, just like we have words like Anatolia and Mesopotamya. But I have never seen a Dutch map saying the Republic of Kurdistan or something like that!
It is necessary to give the sources for the authenticity of Nutuk and the nonexistence of kurdistan state now.
Well, first of all I want to express that Nutuk is full of creditable information about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. I read that book in 3 times and observed that all the Turkish people especially the Turkish Youth must read and take lessons from that book.
Of course, there were many congresses organized in Anatolia before the Kurtuluş Savaşı regardless Amasya, Sivas, Erzurum congresses, and they were organized by the nationalistic organizations that were against the imperialism. It's a truth. So what?
Of course, M.K. Atatürk had wrote his Nutuk with a subjective mood and shared his experiences and observations and wanted to give the lectures to the Turkish youth about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. Hence, it's very normal to see his subjective mood in that book, but we have to keep in mind that none of the part of Nutuk is just a lie.
M. K. Atatürk had planned all of the actions before fighting the imperialist forces to Anatolia, because he was a far-sighting man and one of the most valuable leaders in world history. He didn't do these wonderful works with himself only and he took the supports of Turkish people and the Turkish army to fulfill the necessity of the independence of Turkish Republic.
Nutuk was read by M. K. Atatürk between 15-20th October in 1927 during the 2nd congress of CHP and it can't be claimed that the whole of history of the independence of Turkish Republic is just for the new party of Atatürk. It's just a lie. Sivas Congress was organized between 4-11th September in 1919. Sivas congress fulfilled the fundamental of the establishment of the new state and the independence of Turks in Anatolia.
Consequently, The contents of CHP congress and Sivas congress are different. Hence, it's no use mixing the structures of these congresses.
If we look at the congress of Sevres, we can say a lot of things about it. the sadrazam of Ottoman Empire so-called Damat Ferit Paşa signed that agreement in 10th August in 1920 to confirm the defeat of Ottoman Army in First World War. Apart from this the president of USA, Woodrow Wilson designed a map for the boundaries of Ottoman Empire after the defeat.
According to the map, Turkey was divided into many regions. For example eastern region was given to Armenians and Kurds, western region was given to Greece etc...
However, we have to keep in mind that the boundaries of Turkey's boundaries is tied to Misak-ı Milli (National Oath) .
Hence, the Kurds have no right to establish a state called kurdistan with the assistance of American imperialist actions in that region. i mean Middle East Project of course.
only stateless people deny themselves and their history.
only ignorant people want to live in a country in which gives the acceptence of an establishment of pederasty party to represent child porn.
It is necessary to give the sources for the authenticity of Nutuk and the nonexistence of kurdistan state now.
You have not given one single source, şapşal.
And you have not read my post. I was not debating the existnce or non-existence of Kurdistan. I was debating the existence of it in Sevres, but the non-existence of it in schoolbooks that tell about Sevres.
Well, first of all I want to express that Nutuk is full of creditable information about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. I read that book in 3 times and observed that all the Turkish people especially the Turkish Youth must read and take lessons from that book.
I couldnt agree with you more I never said it wasnt
Of course, there were many congresses organized in Anatolia before the Kurtuluş Savaşı regardless Amasya, Sivas, Erzurum congresses, and they were organized by the nationalistic organizations that were against the imperialism. It's a truth. So what?
Atatürk claims to be the only one organising these. So if you call the existence of these to be true, then what Atatürk claims is not true.
Of course, M.K. Atatürk had wrote his Nutuk with a subjective mood and shared his experiences and observations and wanted to give the lectures to the Turkish youth about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. Hence, it's very normal to see his subjective mood in that book, but we have to keep in mind that none of the part of Nutuk is just a lie.
Apart from your last sentence, I again agree with you.
M. K. Atatürk had planned all of the actions before fighting the imperialist forces to Anatolia, because he was a far-sighting man and one of the most valuable leaders in world history. He didn't do these wonderful works with himself only and he took the supports of Turkish people and the Turkish army to fulfill the necessity of the independence of Turkish Republic.
This is not true. And this becomes clear when studying both Nutuk and historical information from that period.
Nutuk was read by M. K. Atatürk between 15-20th October in 1927 during the 2nd congress of CHP and it can't be claimed that the whole of history of the independence of Turkish Republic is just for the new party of Atatürk. It's just a lie. Sivas Congress was organized between 4-11th September in 1919. Sivas congress fulfilled the fundamental of the establishment of the new state and the independence of Turks in Anatolia.
By naming this the second pary congress, CHP claims the entire history of independence to be his.
Consequently, The contents of CHP congress and Sivas congress are different. Hence, it's no use mixing the structures of these congresses.
Exactly. Then why call it the second party congress?
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I wont reply about Sevres (as I have explained enough) and about Kurdistan nowadays, I was not talking about that at all.
only ignorant people want to live in a country in which gives the acceptence of an establishment of pederasty party to represent child porn.
If you had read the article, you would see that over 80% of my people wants to do something to stop that party. And I havent heard more about it, only the day that it was established. It's a sick party. And the fact I think like that, makes me not ignorant.
only immoral people want to live in a country in which accept homosexual marriages
Homosexual Marriages in Holland It would make LOTS of Turkish people happy, if gay marriages were allowed in your country, you know
Turkey is just for the Turks, not yours.
Too bad for you! Ne mutlu Türkiyelim diyene
And we'll never let you divide our fatherland with your treacherous games. We are aware of them.
Ofcourse there is no Kurdistan. But in Lausanne, everybody signed for a Kurdistan to be there. In Turkish schoolbooks, they do not mention Kurdistan when talking about Lausanne. So that is really wrong! (Im not debating whether there is or is not kurdistan or whether it should be there or not. its just a simple fact that many of yoru schoolbooks dont show the truth about what we all signed in Lausanne)
You are right. He was the first to do it on a country basis. Yet, he claims that he was the first of all nationalistic movements Which is not true. Actually, when they go to sign Lausanne, it is a strange situation: there is no sultan, just a kalif, and there is no official parliament but only the National Meclis. When Atatürk is asked whether the Ottoman Empire still exists or something new has emerged, he says 'Not a monarchy, not a republic'. This is in contrast with him saying in Nutuk that from the start he wanted to found a republic
in Independence war, all ppl was against imperialist countries and fight for all turkey, it s misak-ı milli (the National Pact of 1920 (which set forth certain claims for the Ottoman state)). turks, kurds, laz, arabs all fought for this border. imperialist countries knew this after independence war and they changed their politics. The best way was encouraging nationalism of some groups like kurdish ppl. they did it for armenians and greeks, they became succesful coz they were not muslim, it was easy. but kurdish ppl were muslim and was togather with turks against imperialists. they fought for misak-ı milli, not for a seperate state. that s why day and day after independence war, these states encouraged nationalism of some small groups everytime. and we came to this point now. it can be seen easily from the organisations, tv channels of terrorist groups in these countries. they supported in economically and military way. that s why when turkey was about to be succesful in the last operation in north iraq, they said "stop". BUT today nobody can say " stop" to kill civilians, children, babies to israel.
there are some items about minoirites in Lausanne, but I havent seen any about kurdish ppl. coz only armenians, greeks were accepted as a miniority.
about sultan and kalif: at first think about the situation at that time. there was an impire which governed for centuries with sultans. and kalif who is very powerful, and can direct all muslims easily with one word. at this point Ataturk's wonderful leadership can be seen easily. of course Ataturk believed in Republic from the start. if he told this before, it would be good for enemies. and that s why he managed a good strategy. coz he was a leader, not just a warrior. Only national assembly represented turkey in lausone coz it was another strategy against imperialism. they wanted to benefit from the disagreement between national assembly and sultan. as a conclusion, Ataturk was a leader(!) and a good strategist. today we see many independence war in the world. they cant be succesful coz they have something missing! A leader like Ataturk!
This is why I come to TLC. I enjoy reading the discussions about Turkish history/politics, it helps me to understand its people.
It's nice to know there are young, intelligent people out there, taking an interest in what goes (and has gone on) on in their own country. D-K, Janis and Adonis, thank you on this occasion (btw I know you aren't Turkish DK) for providing the discussion. However, I also like reading the political discussions of the Turkish Old Fogies (TOFs) too .
Adonis - take care . . . you better not vote for joining the EU because you may find your country having to relinquish elements of sovreignty and compromise its constitution. From gay marriages to scarves . . .I think you may see some of your fellow countrymen and women seeking rulings from the European court of human rights.
Gay people have a right to live where they wish and heterosexuals have that right too. If a heterosexual lives in a country where gay marriage is allowed it does not follow that they agree with it, most probably don't even dwell on it. We cannot study the constitution and laws of every country and look for one which ticks every box . . . otherwise we would all be heading for the moon. Don't think I am being too critical of you, that's not the intention
Adonis, Thank you for confirming your idiotness once again! You do realize you only make a fool of yourself and your country right?
DK, thank you for confirming the ignorance of you. You are not Turk, okay? You are Dutch. So, mind your own ID, and solve the problems of your country.
It is necessary to give the sources for the authenticity of Nutuk and the nonexistence of kurdistan state now.
You have not given one single source, şapşal.
And you have not read my post. I was not debating the existnce or non-existence of Kurdistan. I was debating the existence of it in Sevres, but the non-existence of it in schoolbooks that tell about Sevres.
Well, first of all I want to express that Nutuk is full of creditable information about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. I read that book in 3 times and observed that all the Turkish people especially the Turkish Youth must read and take lessons from that book.
I couldnt agree with you more I never said it wasnt
Of course, there were many congresses organized in Anatolia before the Kurtuluş Savaşı regardless Amasya, Sivas, Erzurum congresses, and they were organized by the nationalistic organizations that were against the imperialism. It's a truth. So what?
Atatürk claims to be the only one organising these. So if you call the existence of these to be true, then what Atatürk claims is not true.
Of course, M.K. Atatürk had wrote his Nutuk with a subjective mood and shared his experiences and observations and wanted to give the lectures to the Turkish youth about the Kurtuluş Savaşı and the establishment of Turkish Republic. Hence, it's very normal to see his subjective mood in that book, but we have to keep in mind that none of the part of Nutuk is just a lie.
Apart from your last sentence, I again agree with you.
M. K. Atatürk had planned all of the actions before fighting the imperialist forces to Anatolia, because he was a far-sighting man and one of the most valuable leaders in world history. He didn't do these wonderful works with himself only and he took the supports of Turkish people and the Turkish army to fulfill the necessity of the independence of Turkish Republic.
This is not true. And this becomes clear when studying both Nutuk and historical information from that period.
Nutuk was read by M. K. Atatürk between 15-20th October in 1927 during the 2nd congress of CHP and it can't be claimed that the whole of history of the independence of Turkish Republic is just for the new party of Atatürk. It's just a lie. Sivas Congress was organized between 4-11th September in 1919. Sivas congress fulfilled the fundamental of the establishment of the new state and the independence of Turks in Anatolia.
By naming this the second pary congress, CHP claims the entire history of independence to be his.
Consequently, The contents of CHP congress and Sivas congress are different. Hence, it's no use mixing the structures of these congresses.
Exactly. Then why call it the second party congress?
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I wont reply about Sevres (as I have explained enough) and about Kurdistan nowadays, I was not talking about that at all.
only ignorant people want to live in a country in which gives the acceptence of an establishment of pederasty party to represent child porn.
If you had read the article, you would see that over 80% of my people wants to do something to stop that party. And I havent heard more about it, only the day that it was established. It's a sick party. And the fact I think like that, makes me not ignorant.
only immoral people want to live in a country in which accept homosexual marriages
Homosexual Marriages in Holland It would make LOTS of Turkish people happy, if gay marriages were allowed in your country, you know
Turkey is just for the Turks, not yours.
Too bad for you! Ne mutlu Türkiyelim diyene
And we'll never let you divide our fatherland with your treacherous games. We are aware of them.
Then you know more than I do!
If Nutuk has some lies, you must prove the arguments with sources.
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There's is no concept of Türkiyeli. Only "Türk".
"Türk Demek Türkçe Demektir, Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene..."
Look what Atatürk says:
"How blessed is one who can say "I am a Turk!"
where's Türkiyeli?
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The first congress of CHP was organized in 9th September 1923 and the founders of this parti are Refik Saydam, Celal Bayar, Sabit Sağıroğlu, Münir Hüsrev Göle, Cemil Uybadın, Kazım Hüsnü, Saffet Arıkan, Zülfü Bey'di. Genel Sekreter Recep Peker.
The second congress was held in 1927 as I said before and Nutuk was read at that congress. So the information of the reading of Nutuk in the 2nd congress is true.
If u don't make an investigation, u can't understand the information about it.
Though I dont agree with you at all, and assure you that what I said is truth, it was my pleasure to discuss this with you! First thing that I will buy when I go to Turkey next week, will be Nutuk! (and Latife Hanim by Ipek Calislar!)
Though I dont agree with you at all, and assure you that what I said is truth, it was my pleasure to discuss this with you! First thing that I will buy when I go to Turkey next week, will be Nutuk! (and Latife Hanim by Ipek Calislar!)
As you have confessed that, you haven't read Nutuk yet before.
You can't make comments about a book without reading it before. If that book's name is Nutuk, the importance of making comments become more remarkable. It is your big mistake.
now, I'm happy for pulling up stakes with you.
Read that books in their original languages, and then discuss with me if you can.
what did Uğur Mumcu say:
"Bilgi Sahibi Olunmadan, Fikir Sahibi Olunmaz."
never make comments about a book without reading it in advance, okay?
I read that book I took it from the university library. But I want to have it at home too, as I think it is an important book. And I read it in cagdas Turkce, translated by Zeynep Korkmaz, not in the Turkish Ataturk wrote, as that is too difficult for me to read, since it looks like Osmanlica too much for me to understand.
never make comments about a book without reading it in advance, okay?
So you are saying it is impossible to read a book, if you dont buy it? As I have said before, I took it from library Now I want to buy it. Because as I have said before, most of it is true and it is a pleasure to read the thoughts of a great leader. I have to agree with Janis, he surely was an outstanding leader!
never make comments about a book without reading it in advance, okay?
So you are saying it is impossible to read a book, if you dont buy it? As I have said before, I took it from library Now I want to buy it. Because as I have said before, most of it is true and it is a pleasure to read the thoughts of a great leader. I have to agree with Janis, he surely was an outstanding leader!
I never said he wasn't. I dont think that Ataturk was kusursuz, he was not. His leadership wasnt all peaceful, it included bloodshed too. But he did something great for his country and he is one of the best leaders the world has ever known!
I hope DK will read a book in advance to make discussion about it with the people whether a painting book or a basic reading book.
you have to learn Turkish as soon as possible too.
what did Yunus Emre say:
"İlim ilim bilmektir
İlim kendin bilmektir
Sen kendin bilmezsin
Ya nice okumaktır..."
Daha once de soylemistim, o kitabi okudum. Kutuphaneden almistim, simdi kendime almak istiyorum. Nereden cikardin, okumadigimi?
Turkceyi biliyorum. Osmanlicam daha yetmez, Nutuk eski dilinde okuyabilmek icin. Kusura bakma, ama sonucta senin gibi dogumdan beri turkceyi konusmadim.
Yunus Emre de harika bir yazar
(As I have said before, I read that book. I took it from the library, now I want to buy it for mysef. Where did you get the idea from that I didnt read it? I know Turkish. I dont know enough Osmanlica yet, to read Nutuk in its old language. I am sorry, but after all I didnt speak Turkish since I was born).
Apparantly you havent got enough knowledge yourself. You keep quoting other people. Or are you jsut showing off all that you have read?
Im sorry for not using Turkish characters by the way, at home I have a turkish keyboard, but here at work.. Im too lazy to use the special field
Anyway, I am out of this discussion. Talking to Adonis is talking to a deaf man's ears. I can understand he does not believe my observations, as he was raised not to critisize. But..he does not believe I read it, nor does he think I speak Turkish Iste, talking to a deaf man's ears.
Im sorry for not using Turkish characters by the way, at home I have a turkish keyboard, but here at work.. Im too lazy to use the special field
Anyway, I am out of this discussion. Talking to Adonis is talking to a deaf man's ears. I can understand he does not believe my observations, as he was raised not to critisize. But..he does not believe I read it, nor does he think I speak Turkish Iste, talking to a deaf man's ears.
Have a nice day Adonis.
Talking with DK is talking a blind woman's eyez.
As u said that u had read it before, but u misunderstood the content of Nutuk.
Adonis - take care . . . you better not vote for joining the EU because you may find your country having to relinquish elements of sovreignty and compromise its constitution. From gay marriages to scarves . . .I think you may see some of your fellow countrymen and women seeking rulings from the European court of human rights.
I, exceptionally, agree with PT here! Adonis, please, do NOT vote for joining the EU! We do not want backward people to ruin what we worked so hard to accomplish! And yes, you would have to compromise your constitution, like law 301 for example... Would you be able to handle that? I don't think so!
Adonis - take care . . . you better not vote for joining the EU because you may find your country having to relinquish elements of sovreignty and compromise its constitution. From gay marriages to scarves . . .I think you may see some of your fellow countrymen and women seeking rulings from the European court of human rights.
I, exceptionally, agree with PT here! Adonis, please, do NOT vote for joining the EU! We do not want backward people to ruin what we worked so hard to accomplish! And yes, you would have to compromise your constitution, like law 301 for example... Would you be able to handle that? I don't think so!
We don't need EU, okay? and i don't care about EU.
Adonis - take care . . . you better not vote for joining the EU because you may find your country having to relinquish elements of sovreignty and compromise its constitution. From gay marriages to scarves . . .I think you may see some of your fellow countrymen and women seeking rulings from the European court of human rights.
I, exceptionally, agree with PT here! Adonis, please, do NOT vote for joining the EU! We do not want backward people to ruin what we worked so hard to accomplish! And yes, you would have to compromise your constitution, like law 301 for example... Would you be able to handle that? I don't think so!
We may agree but your tone is all wrong. Another attempt at provocation on your part I think.
You "order" Adonis away then address him in a provocative way. Now, do you want him to leave the thread or defend himself? Make your mind up canim.
Rüya, please text me, I really need to know if you can pick me up from the airport. It is going through my mind all the time, just read your mail damnit
We need some controversy here! Who is the brave one? It's a contest! You can win......... something really great! I'll keep it secret to increase the suspension Hadi, who can stir the best controversy...
We need some controversy here! Who is the brave one? It's a contest! You can win......... something really great! I'll keep it secret to increase the suspension Hadi, who can stir the best controversy...
Hey, I already protested the false accusations about Bunnies, accused handsom of Lickaphilia....I feel like I have already waved the banner of controversy!
Hey, I already protested the false accusations about Bunnies, accused handsom of Lickaphilia....I feel like I have already waved the banner of controversy!
Hey, you made ME laugh, but apparently not karpusqueen, lady in red, Ebbyru, azade, vineyards, libralady, Roswitha.... etc. Sorry, we are testing the talent to stir controversy, not to be smart! You can even say something dumb, as long as it turns this light breeze over TC into a tornado!
Hey, I already protested the false accusations about Bunnies, accused handsom of Lickaphilia....I feel like I have already waved the banner of controversy!
Hey, you made ME laugh, but apparently not karpusqueen, lady in red, Ebbyru, azade, vineyards, libralady, Roswitha.... etc. Sorry, we are testing the talent to stir controversy, not to be smart! You can even say something dumb, as long as it turns this light breeze over TC into a tornado!
I laughed too, but only several hours after you posted this! Please now modify your above post and remove my name
You are bad DK.. Couple of more posts for daydream's msn problems couple of more posts to what are you listening now.
Girleegirl will wake up and ....hahaha
I'm thinking that I don't wish anybody to say I am anti-Turkish. I am wearing a red t-shirt with 'Türkiye' on it in white letters, and I'm getting ready to go to the Turkish market (on my Dutch bike ) to buy patlıcan, çarliston biberi and süzme yoğurdu, because I am preparing Ali Nazik tonight. I will do this whilst listening Sezen Aksu, and after dinner I will make some strong Turkish tea and study a comparison between the revolutionary changes in İran and Turkey of Atatürk's time, and see why Turkey became modern and İran has gone backward.. So don't tell me I am against Turkey
I'm thinking that I don't wish anybody to say I am anti-Turkish. I am wearing a red t-shirt with 'Türkiye' on it in white letters, and I'm getting ready to go to the Turkish market (on my Dutch bike ) to buy patlıcan, çarliston biberi and süzme yoğurdu, because I am preparing Ali Nazik tonight. I will do this whilst listening Sezen Aksu, and after dinner I will make some strong Turkish tea and study a comparison between the revolutionary changes in İran and Turkey of Atatürk's time, and see why Turkey became modern and İran has gone backward.. So don't tell me I am against Turkey
Poor Deli_Kizin, it doesn't matter what you say, even if you meant no offense...PERCEPTION is the name of the game here. Any critisism or disagreement is perceived at Anti-Turkish. If you are going to say how you feel about something, just be prepared to: A. Defend your position (to now avail, of course) or B. Not care what people think.
On the basis that no-one seems to be giving thehandsome much encouragement I have decided to root for him - I know it looks as if I have changed sides but I do like to support the underdog!
So - (sorry no cute cheerleader smiley) -
HANDSOM HANDSOM DON'T BE SLOW
YOU CAN CATCH GIRLY IF YOU GO GO GO
GIVE US AN H
GIVE US AN A
GIVE US AN N
GIVE US A D
GIVE US AN S
GIVE US AN O
GIVE US AN M
GIVE US AN E
(well handsom can't spell but it scans better with an 'e'
On the basis that no-one seems to be giving thehandsome much encouragement I have decided to root for him - I know it looks as if I have changed sides but I do like to support the underdog!
So - (sorry no cute cheerleader smiley) -
HANDSOM HANDSOM DON'T BE SLOW
YOU CAN CATCH GIRLY IF YOU GO GO GO
GIVE US AN H
GIVE US AN A
GIVE US AN N
GIVE US A D
GIVE US AN S
GIVE US AN O
GIVE US AN M
GIVE US AN E
(well handsom can't spell but it scans better with an 'e'
LADY!!!!!!!!!!! You traitor!
So if he does make it on top of me will you change sides again?
Do you see the type of ingrate you are supporting here!?
I on the other hand am SO honored and grateful for the support I have received from my fellow TC classmates (even the two-faced ones).
I promise, if I am victorious in this battle, we will once again be able to have fun here at TC without the threat of censorship. I promise, that we will be free to speak our minds without the fear of being called anti-Turkish......oh wait, that's the wrong speech...DAMN!! I don't have a victory speech worked out for this battle. Must go to work on that!
On the basis that no-one seems to be giving thehandsome much encouragement I have decided to root for him - I know it looks as if I have changed sides but I do like to support the underdog!
So - (sorry no cute cheerleader smiley) -
HANDSOM HANDSOM DON'T BE SLOW
YOU CAN CATCH GIRLY IF YOU GO GO GO
GIVE US AN H
GIVE US AN A
GIVE US AN N
GIVE US A D
GIVE US AN S
GIVE US AN O
GIVE US AN M
GIVE US AN E
(well handsom can't spell but it scans better with an 'e'
On the basis that no-one seems to be giving thehandsome much encouragement I have decided to root for him - I know it looks as if I have changed sides but I do like to support the underdog!
So - (sorry no cute cheerleader smiley) -
HANDSOM HANDSOM DON'T BE SLOW
YOU CAN CATCH GIRLY IF YOU GO GO GO
GIVE US AN H
GIVE US AN A
GIVE US AN N
GIVE US A D
GIVE US AN S
GIVE US AN O
GIVE US AN M
GIVE US AN E
(well handsom can't spell but it scans better with an 'e'
LADY!!!!!!!!!!! You traitor!
So if he does make it on top of me will you change sides again?
hahaha look my last 3 posts are numbered the same!! is there a limit? .. hahahaha
I sure do like this smiley
but not as good as this one!!
Silly lulubelle! It shows the same number because everytime you post your numbers change. If you look back at your very first post you will see that it is numbered 1371 too.
you know my ass is not so large as you after my time away and the operation.
Do not fool yourself Femme, it's impossible to get your ass back to human size, you can just make it ok to get through the door. You are sitting on me again, gett off!!!
Do not fool yourself Femme, it's impossible to get your ass back to human size, you can just make it ok to get through the door. You are sitting on me again, gett off!!!
thats your own fat ass. it is so large that when you sit it flops around the seat and you are actually sitting upon yourself.
My new MD is asking for my msn.:-S
And I am still thinking if it is a good idea to give my msn to him..
But what a luck I have..I wish it was daydreamer asking for it
My new MD is asking for my msn.:-S
And I am still thinking if it is a good idea to give my msn to him..
But what a luck I have..I wish it was daydreamer asking for it
We amerikans are so ignorant about other countries... :-S Why don't you help us out and explain what an "MD" means in the exotic place you live in? For us it means a Medical Doctor... but I can't believe that your doctor asks for your msn... unless he's gay of course!
We amerikans are so ignorant about other countries... :-S Why don't you help us out and explain what an "MD" means in the exotic place you live in? For us it means a Medical Doctor... but I can't believe that your doctor asks for your msn... unless he's gay of course!
My new MD is asking for my msn.:-S
And I am still thinking if it is a good idea to give my msn to him..
But what a luck I have..I wish it was daydreamer asking for it
You should be proud that some people want it and ask you for it. If you really want me to ask you for it, I can do it, sure. I'll then pin it up to a wall in my study
You should be proud that some people want it and ask you for it. If you really want me to ask you for it, I can do it, sure. I'll then pin it up to a wall in my study
You should be proud that some people want it and ask you for it. If you really want me to ask you for it, I can do it, sure. I'll then pin it up to a wall in my study
Ask, and then reject!
I know that is going to happen catwoman..
That is the reason why I am not asking for it..
OMG! I think you have never been scorned by Alameda TC Police for the usage of inappropriate vocabulary! If you had, you'd never venture to do it again...
Do not fool yourself Femme, it's impossible to get your ass back to human size, you can just make it ok to get through the door. You are sitting on me again, gett off!!!
thats your own fat ass. it is so large that when you sit it flops around the seat and you are actually sitting upon yourself.
OMG I fell off the bed reading this one!!! hahahahahahahaha .. damn now I have a big ol knot on my head when I hit the wall ..
OMG I fell off the bed reading this one!!! hahahahahahahaha .. damn now I have a big ol knot on my head when I hit the wall ..
Awww...I have some ice if you wanna make a pack for your head injury.
GG - you are really scraping the barrel in your determination to stay ahead of handsom! Where is he?? I can't continue to give him my support if he just doesn't make the effort!!!
GG - you are really scraping the barrel in your determination to stay ahead of handsom! Where is he?? I can't continue to give him my support if he just doesn't make the effort!!!
Hey a girl has to do what she has to do to stay on top....and I DO have ice!!
Come to the dark side lady....throw your support behind me!!!
GG - you are really scraping the barrel in your determination to stay ahead of handsom! Where is he?? I can't continue to give him my support if he just doesn't make the effort!!!
Hey a girl has to do what she has to do to stay on top....and I DO have ice!!
Come to the dark side lady....throw your support behind me!!!
Damn!! I just helped you increase your post count
(hmmmmm.....I do tend to be easily swayed by people in power )
I don't think that being a citizen of a country obligates a person to be loyal to this country. Citizenship is a completely accidental thing, we have no choice about it and we may happen to hate the politics of our nation. Requiring a person to be loyal is somewhat of a dictatorship.
You can read the requirements for US citizenship:
http://www.us-immigration-attorney.com/citizenship.htm
The people I was referring are Turkish citizens with different ethnical background who don't even accept the existence our Turkia in some parts. They think it is another country.
From that page above:
Quote:
renounce any foreign allegiance and/or foreign title
Quote:
support the Constitution and obey the laws
Let alone obeying laws they fight against the state. They use the same language like the terorrists. They use fake names for cities and regions.
If you are trying to destroy a country, if you are supporting terorrist seperationalists, if you are naming part of the country as another country, if you give cities different names in different languages, how does this comply with being a citizen of the same country at the same time?
Yeah, these are the formal requirements for citizenship of another country which can be understood in different ways. One is that when a person lives in a certain place, that person should try to contribute to well being of that community (and this is what I believe in). Another way to understand this "requirement of loyalty" is that a person is supposed to be loyal to the government, its policies or to some official stance on specific issues (like the ban on talking about the Armenian "genocide" or oppression of Kurds, or insulting "Turkishness"). And this is pretty much what dictatorships do and it is oppression and violence of freedom.
Catwoman you know very well what I meant when I wrote loyalty to homeland in that topic that needed to be removed.
We have a problem in out homeland. There is a terrorist organisation that wants to separate a part of our land. They give names to that part. On maps they show it divided from our country. They gives names to regions in that part. They give names to cities. They use a so-called flag. They even choose the so-called fictional majors for those places. They use those fictional foreign city names in their songs. They are the same people who fight agains the state.
It is not a matter of supporting Turkishness or not. It is just a simple citizenship requirement to be respectfull to your homeland. This means that you cant support the terrorists and use the same language as them, use the same fictional country, region, city names as them and them expect to get away with that.
What we expect from our Kurdish origin citizens is that they simply are respectfull to the state, the law, the government and they don't support terrorist organizations that want to separate a part of our homeland. What has that to do with Turkishness?
While you know very well that I was referring to terrorist supporters I fail to understand why you would argue against something that I wrote.
Of course being a citizen of a country means being loyal to that country.
Of course terrorism is a different story, I was being generic in my answer. However... there's also an issue of oppression, which gives people the right to rebel against the state.
I didn't mean to argue with you Erdinc, I only wanted to reply to the statement that "citizenship obligates loyalty".
There isn't really. I have lived many years in those areas. Anybody who considers himself a Turkish citizens and shows the least respect to the country (by not using a different flag, by not using a different country name, by not using a different city name, by not carrying pictures of terrorist leader, etc.) is never oppressed.
The musician we were talking about uses the same language as the terrorists. Basically he makes songs to be listened by the terrorists on terror camps. He uses the same fictional names. He makes songs about a country that does not exists but that they want to create by taking a part of our land.
There is a huge difference between making Kurdish songs and making songs that support separationalist terrorists. We have nothing against Kurdish language or culture. You can be a Turkish citizen with Kurdish ethnical origin. In fact there are many who live happly like that.
On the other hand being a terrorist supporter and being understanding to terrorist supporters is not something we can tolerate and should not something you do either.
On the other hand being a terrorist supporter and being understanding to terrorist supporters is not something we can tolerate and should not something you do either.
Trying to understand the motives of people who become terrorists is the key to solving the problem. That of course doesn't automatically make anybody a supporter of terrorist behavior. I do NOT support separationist ideas and ANY kind of violence - that done by Kurds and that done against Kurds.
I dont want to join this discussion. But I just want to remind a few things relating to names of cities/towns/villages in Turkey:
Since the begining of the republic of Turkey, we have changed nearly 30.000 names (may be more).
We know that Tunceli was Dersim or Kırklareli was kirkkilise for example.
Many names, specially after 1957, have been changed because for one reason or another. All names, which had 'Kürt, Gürcü, Tatar, Çerkez, Laz, Arap, muhacir' words in them have been changed.
I think, one of the reason was those names were not found as part of Turkish culture.
Basically, in last 50 years, 35% of the village names have been changed in Turkey.
I am fairly tired of this discussion because it simply leads to nowhere, but I just wanted to add something in refer to giving names to places. Kurds have had names for their cities for ages, it's not something PKK or whoever is doing in attempt to seperate kurdistan from Turkey. In many maps (not turkish ones though, of course) "kurdistan" is mentioned as an area (not a country) because it is mainly inhabitated by kurds, and I have also found the use of kurdish names for cities used on various maps.
Why are turks so offended by it, it's themselves who changed the names of cities which by nature had kurdish names.
There's never going to be a solution to the problems as long as turks continue to lead assimilation politics, and they, with their high loyalty to homeland feelings, should be the first to understand that it's simply not possible to make a whole people forget their roots, ways of life, past, names, whatever it may be. For example, why it is still illegal in Turkey to give one's children kurdish names? I know several who have one name on their identity card and another in person.
CHPköy is very nice this time of year. You should come visit me some time. The streets are safe and clean, the people work, its a very good environment and things look to even get better, inşallah...
CHPköy is very nice this time of year. You should come visit me some time. The streets are safe and clean, the people work, its a very good environment and things look to even get better, inşallah...
You are a fascist with a very narrow knowledge of Turkish politics( as I told you before ),Keith.
I dont think it matters which party you support.
I dont want to join this discussion. But I just want to remind a few things relating to names of cities/towns/villages in Turkey:
Since the begining of the republic of Turkey, we have changed nearly 30.000 names (may be more).
We know that Tunceli was Dersim or Kırklareli was kirkkilise for example.
Many names, specially after 1957, have been changed because for one reason or another. All names, which had 'Kürt, Gürcü, Tatar, Çerkez, Laz, Arap, muhacir' words in them have been changed.
I think, one of the reason was those names were not found as part of Turkish culture.
Basically, in last 50 years, 35% of the village names have been changed in Turkey.
Its true, many villages names changed. It has only been 80 years since alphabet and language changed don't forget. Historically, this is a very short time period for a new turkish nation. Also, it is not only kurdish villages that have had name changes. So don't feel so targeted.
Its true, many villages names changed. It has only been 80 years since alphabet and language changed don't forget. Historically, this is a very short time period for a new turkish nation. Also, it is not only kurdish villages that have had name changes. So don't feel so targeted.
Keith, it seems to me that you are denying the fact that Kurdish people were tried to be forced to become Turkish. It's not the same story of course, but that's also what Germans and Russians were trying to do with Polish people when they invaded and stole our land. Believe me, that's fascism, that will only strike back with more anger and hatred towards the oppressor. It is clear that Turkish assimilation policies were violent and intolerant. It will NEVER work, history has shown that clearly.
My guess has always been he is from TKPköy or TKPbahçe...
I'm not sure what TKP is, but it seems to me that this is a bit of a personal attack... :-S I'm not defending handsom here, but I really think that if you want to have a constructive conversation, you cannot use false accusations as personal attacks.
Its true, many villages names changed. It has only been 80 years since alphabet and language changed don't forget. Historically, this is a very short time period for a new turkish nation. Also, it is not only kurdish villages that have had name changes. So don't feel so targeted.
Keith, it seems to me that you are denying the fact that Kurdish people were tried to be forced to become Turkish. It's not the same story of course, but that's also what Germans and Russians were trying to do with Polish people when they invaded and stole our land. Believe me, that's fascism, that will only strike back with more anger and hatred towards the oppressor. It is clear that Turkish assimilation policies were violent and intolerant.
I am only kidding with you...
Even fascists get to have fun sometimes too!
I bet, you were kidding with me as a USER (as usual).. not as a mod.. But I was not kidding about your place in the political spectrum and your narrow knowledge about turkish politics..
Azade, u dont know what u write or u cant write ur real opinions. it seems ur post or thoughts are not belong to you. u said, "the map is a map of kurdish ppl inhabit in this region and kurdish ppl dont want a seperate country". after a while u say " it s funny turkey accepts kosova as a state" what is the connection here, between kosova and kurds? as u said they dont want a seperate country. and Im sure of that most of kurdish ppl dont want a seperate country too.
to Handsom: it s strange to see some one who keeps secret his hometown. as u know in turkey everybody asks " nerelisin?" at first speech. and everybody answer proudly where he is from
I am only kidding with you...
Even fascists get to have fun sometimes too!
I bet, you were kidding with me as a USER (as usual).. not as a mod.. But I was not kidding about your place in the political spectrum and your narrow knowledge about turkish politics..
hehe. u know turkish politics??? u are a one sided person. you dont know anything else except some kurdish ppl thought you in ur place. do you know about turkish ppl in other countries??? what do you know about turks in a EU country Greece?
I dont want to join this discussion. But I just want to remind a few things relating to names of cities/towns/villages in Turkey:
Since the begining of the republic of Turkey, we have changed nearly 30.000 names (may be more).
We know that Tunceli was Dersim or Kırklareli was kirkkilise for example.
Many names, specially after 1957, have been changed because for one reason or another. All names, which had 'Kürt, Gürcü, Tatar, Çerkez, Laz, Arap, muhacir' words in them have been changed.
I think, one of the reason was those names were not found as part of Turkish culture.
Basically, in last 50 years, 35% of the village names have been changed in Turkey.
Its true, many villages names changed. It has only been 80 years since alphabet and language changed don't forget. Historically, this is a very short time period for a new turkish nation. Also, it is not only kurdish villages that have had name changes. So don't feel so targeted.
KeithL, u are %100 right. it s not only south east of turkey. in black sea, many place names changed also. we dont feel targetted it s not easy to change somethings after ottoman impire. everything changed after ottoman impire.
some members still try to show sympathetic Terrorism. I dont agree that there is oppresion against some ppl in turkey. u cant see any mosque in greece or bulgaria after ottoman state but there mosques and churches side by side in istanbul , izmir, bursa, trabzon everywhere.
For example, why it is still illegal in Turkey to give one's children kurdish names?
You can't be serious!!!
funnyy!!!! of course she is not serious there are thousands of armanians in turkey. do they have names "ahmet, mehmet, ayşe"??? azade should ask her husband again
funnyy!!!! of course she is not serious there are thousands of armanians in turkey. do they have names "ahmet, mehmet, ayşe"??? azade should ask her husband again
Well we were talking about Kurdish here That problem is 'fresher' than the Armenians so it may be different...
But I certainly hope you are right! That sure would be funny yet unbelievable!!
For example, why it is still illegal in Turkey to give one's children kurdish names?
You can't be serious!!!
Actually, technically it is not illegal. Becasue it was allowed by interior ministry at 24 Eylül 2003.
But, it is allowed with the exception that 'not allowing none turkish letters' like X, W, Q which happen to be in kurdish language.
And also in the practice, the people dealing with these in the state departments created difficulties.
I will recommend to read the stories about the problems turkish people are facing in foreign countries. They are giving kurdish names and when it comes to register them in Turkish consulates, they are asked names to be changed..
Janissary, I believe this is none of you business!
He has the habit (actually this is only the second time, but thinking of the fact I had said before I dont appreciate it..) of bringing my bf and his precious family up in threads where I talk about my future with a Kurdish man.. He knows I dont appreciate him dragging his family inside a conversation here, so I hope that was not the reason for him to mention it.
some members still try to show sympathetic Terrorism. I dont agree that there is oppresion against some ppl in turkey.
Janissary, NOBODY who stands up here against oppression of Kurds supports PKK or terrorism. Trying to understand why Kurds are attracted to such extreme and horrible ways is the key to solving the problem though. It is really for your benefit to do this. It has been documented that Kurds have been oppressed in Turkey, even though they were fighting along side Turks for Turkey. It is pretty clear that this oppression has caused them to turn to terrorism for lack of a better way. I may be wrong about this, but this is what I think. It's the same as Arabs becoming suicide bombers. Would they become that if they had Israeli-American type weapons? No. Would they have a reason to become terrorists if they weren't invaded in their own homes? No. Does it make terrorism ok? No!
I do think that PKK is hurting Kurds. Violence breeds violence and ignorance breeds ignorance. It would be much better for them to go to schools, become lawyers, go to international human rights organizations and expose the injustice. But if you have a lot of people living in quite primitive conditions, the only thing that will attract them is a primitive solution, which is violence. I believe that having that option gives them a sense of preserving their dignity. However, I do know that many Kurdish people are against PKK because it hurts them! It hurts their families, it hurts innocent Turkish and Kurdish people, it is wrong and it is not solving anything. On top of that it makes some good, just Turks blind to the oppression that Kurds are subjected to.
Azade, u dont know what u write or u cant write ur real opinions. it seems ur post or thoughts are not belong to you. u said, "the map is a map of kurdish ppl inhabit in this region and kurdish ppl dont want a seperate country". after a while u say " it s funny turkey accepts kosova as a state" what is the connection here, between kosova and kurds? as u said they dont want a seperate country. and Im sure of that most of kurdish ppl dont want a seperate country too.
Oh great nice try but I know from experience exactly what I'm talking about. I have never said that kurdish people don't want a seperate country because I think the majority do want it in their heart, simply to get rid of the practical oppression that still exists, but most of them probably think it is an utopia.
Kurdistan and Kosovo are much alike, be a little openminded.
some members still try to show sympathetic Terrorism. I dont agree that there is oppresion against some ppl in turkey.
Janissary, NOBODY who stands up here against oppression of Kurds supports PKK or terrorism. Trying to understand why Kurds are attracted to such extreme and horrible ways is the key to solving the problem though. It is really for your benefit to do this. It has been documented that Kurds have been oppressed in Turkey, even though they were fighting along side Turks for Turkey. It is pretty clear that this oppression has caused them to turn to terrorism for lack of a better way. I may be wrong about this, but this is what I think. It's the same as Arabs becoming suicide bombers. Would they become that if they had Israeli-American type weapons? No. Would they have a reason to become terrorists if they weren't invaded in their own homes? No. Does it make terrorism ok? No!
I do think that PKK is hurting Kurds. Violence breeds violence and ignorance breeds ignorance. It would be much better for them to go to schools, become lawyers, go to international human rights organizations and expose the injustice. But if you have a lot of people living in quite primitive conditions, the only thing that will attract them is a primitive solution, which is violence. I believe that having that option gives them a sense of preserving their dignity. However, I do know that many Kurdish people are against PKK because it hurts them! It hurts their families, it hurts innocent Turkish and Kurdish people, it is wrong and it is not solving anything. On top of that it makes some good, just Turks blind to the oppression that Kurds are subjected to.
some members still try to show sympathetic Terrorism. I dont agree that there is oppresion against some ppl in turkey.
Janissary, NOBODY who stands up here against oppression of Kurds supports PKK or terrorism. Trying to understand why Kurds are attracted to such extreme and horrible ways is the key to solving the problem though. It is really for your benefit to do this. It has been documented that Kurds have been oppressed in Turkey, even though they were fighting along side Turks for Turkey. It is pretty clear that this oppression has caused them to turn to terrorism for lack of a better way. I may be wrong about this, but this is what I think. It's the same as Arabs becoming suicide bombers. Would they become that if they had Israeli-American type weapons? No. Would they have a reason to become terrorists if they weren't invaded in their own homes? No. Does it make terrorism ok? No!
I do think that PKK is hurting Kurds. Violence breeds violence and ignorance breeds ignorance. It would be much better for them to go to schools, become lawyers, go to international human rights organizations and expose the injustice. But if you have a lot of people living in quite primitive conditions, the only thing that will attract them is a primitive solution, which is violence. I believe that having that option gives them a sense of preserving their dignity. However, I do know that many Kurdish people are against PKK because it hurts them! It hurts their families, it hurts innocent Turkish and Kurdish people, it is wrong and it is not solving anything. On top of that it makes some good, just Turks blind to the oppression that Kurds are subjected to.
+10000
+ me
NOTHING justifies terrorism but if Kurds aren't oppressed in Turkey then why would PKK exist? Why would people die in terrorist attacks? If Kurds are not fighting for equality why would they fight at all? Are they a simply blood-thirsty nation whose hobby is causing trouble?
Don't you think the kurds must take some blame for their position? Their circumstances are not unique to Turkey. They face the same "so-called oppression" in every country they live in. And its because in all of these countries, they are fighting for their own independent nation and wish to carve out land from these existing countries. I am not saying whether this is right or wrong. But the bottom line, this is the underlying tension an all of these regional countries. If the kurds were not a threat to try and redraw borders with help of U.S., U.N., E.U. etc, their perceived oppression would be much different.
Allah allah. This is really getting interesting here.
We are telling him what we have done to kurds in Turkey, we are telling him here is the document about asimilation, we are saying that that is how we killed them, that is how we changed their names. We are telling them to check the cases in EU human rights courts.
He is still coming back with "so called opression".
I'm saying that if the threat of kurish seperation and turkish loss of land were gone, the over-handed rule of the kurds in the east would be less oppressive. There are two sides to this story.
wow..at least now we have a new saying :
"the kurds in the east would be less oppressive", which means there IS opression NOW and it will be less in the future.
But am I right to think that the phrase was 'so-called opression' or no opression at all?
or this is "being economical with the truth".
Girleegirl and I are having the same number of posts at the moment..
GG I really enjoyed you being on the top..
But it is time for a change.
Lots of love from me..
I'm saying that if the threat of kurish seperation and turkish loss of land were gone, the over-handed rule of the kurds in the east would be less oppressive. There are two sides to this story.
Unfortunately, this is the consequence of neglecting this issue and treating Kurds this way for so long. Now, it's not only the issue of oppression and terrorism, but also them wanting their own land.
Girleegirl and I are having the same number of posts at the moment..
GG I really enjoyed you being on the top..
But it is time for a change.
Lots of love from me..
Girleegirl and I are having the same number of posts at the moment..
GG I really enjoyed you being on the top..
But it is time for a change.
Lots of love from me..
Are you enjoying Erdinc on top now?
Romantic developments? On a language learning site? O my, what language will that be.....
Girleegirl and I are having the same number of posts at the moment..
GG I really enjoyed you being on the top..
But it is time for a change.
Lots of love from me..
Romantic developments? On a language learning site? O my, what language will that be.....
Actually, I think it is time for me to let GG catch up!!
It is ALL yours GG for a while Hope to see you on the top again soon
GG stop trying to mess up my score table please - to say nothing of slandering my candidate! Oops I think that should be libelling!
Isn't it true that you made handsom head of the welcoming committee only to further your candidate?? And isn't it also true that you set aside any research that proved that hairy trolls scare off the newbies and did so in an effort to advance your own cause??
2 minutes later: Amendment: I am very disappointed in you handsom I withdraw my flowers and I am thinking seriously about withdrawing my support
Ohhh hhmmm welll....lady, did I mention how lovely you look today! Never better! I do believe this "mod" thing has had the most wonderful effect on you. Your fairness and balance....simply unparalleled!!!
Oh, and if you are looking for a new candidate to back I would love to be in consideration.
2 minutes later: Amendment: I am very disappointed in you handsom I withdraw my flowers and I am thinking seriously about withdrawing my support
Ohhh hhmmm welll....lady, did I mention how lovely you look today! Never better! I do believe this 'mod' thing has had the most wonderful effect on you. Your fairness and balance....simply unparalleled!!!
Oh, and if you are looking for a new candidate to back I would love to be in consideration.
Ama...in your previous post you made it very clear that you disapproved of my dirty tricks campaign :-S . I am sorry to say this but you seem a little fickle yourself.
Ama...in your previous post you made it very clear that you disapproved of my dirty tricks campaign :-S . I am sorry to say this but you seem a little fickle yourself.
Oh that little thing?? You know I was only teasing you lady!!
Now I have straight hair, it could not be straighter but for some reason the girl in the department store yesterday, wanted to try out her hair straightners on me! This really puzzles me................. am I with straight hair, going to want to pay ££££ for a pair of hair straighteners to make my hair even straighter?????
Now I have straight hair, it could not be straighter but for some reason the girl in the department store yesterday, wanted to try out her hair straightners on me! This really puzzles me................. am I with straight hair, going to want to pay ££££ for a pair of hair straighteners to make my hair even straighter?????
maybe this product only works for people who already have straight hair... so you are the perfect customer... :-S
Our Black Sea brothers do more to widen the gap between Turkish and western classmates, and provoke more ill-feeling, than any other. This is done in the "quest" to promote Turkey in a good light to TC members.
All it does is make us wonder at their naivity....
Our Black Sea brothers do more to widen the gap between Turkish and western classmates, and provoke more ill-feeling, than any other. This is done in the "quest" to promote Turkey in a good light to TC members.
All it does is make us wonder at their naivity....
Well everyone is entitled to his opinion
As you have the right to CRİTİCİZE Türkiye ALWAYS because you love her
They also have the right to defend her because they do İf you see them widen the gap between Turkish and western classmates,they also see you doing same thing by CRİTİCİZE their country
Btw,''You'' is generally speaking...but i guess you know that already
handsom is on top of portokal these days, GG is on top of teas, and MrX is on top of handsom, and AlphaF is on top of Roswitha
That makes a hugeeeeeeee layer cake!What shape is it? oblong with a convex top?square,with an uneven surface? or a perfect cube?And the taste???? lime limousine?almond attraction?orange delight?
(just remember, none of that stuff should go on before marriage!!! )
Haaaa that's why you keep pm'ing me we should go to Vegas and get married instantly!!
Canim, this is sacred, private information - you don't have to share with the whole world what I tell you in our PMs!!! but please, be reasonable... first you send me your swimsuit pictures and then you tell me marriage in a year?
Finish your school first, then get some experience and cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and you may apply for the job . All applications can be sent to me.
first you send me your swimsuit pictures and then you tell me marriage in a year?
I just want to be sure you won't feel the need to have some BSB around you That's why I think it is good to wait a bit, understand? But if you want you can try before you buy I may wear a burqini, but that's more for fashion than to keep your greedy eyes away from me
I just want to be sure you won't feel the need to have some BSB around you That's why I think it is good to wait a bit, understand? But if you want you can try before you buy I may wear a burqini, but that's more for fashion than to keep your greedy eyes away from me
Don't worry about BSB, they are there when you are not, so they won't bother you. And... you know that once greedy, always greedy, no matter what you wear
Finish your school first, then get some experience and cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and you may apply for the job . All applications can be sent to me.
Offfffffffffff!!!! Don't think I don't see through your evil plan to steal away my man slave for you and DK!!!
Sui, don't you listen to that wicked kitty..send your resume directly to me.
Offfffffffffff!!!! Don't think I don't see through your evil plan to steal away my man slave for you and DK!!!
Sui, don't you listen to that wicked kitty..send your resume directly to me.
Offffff.... this wicked woman wants everything for herself! How about if we share Sui.... (sorry Sui, twice as much work for you, but you can manage!!!)
Offffff.... this wicked woman wants everything for herself! How about if we share Sui.... (sorry Sui, twice as much work for you, but you can manage!!!)
Catwoman-dear-wife-to-be, if you look like the singer of Poland for Songfestival, you are definitely the MALE-woman in our relationship
If you ask me she looks like a travy!
OMG darling... you are making me aware that there is another eurovision going on already!!! Ama.... this woman - Isis Gee - she is American!!! How come is she representing Poland... :-S She definitely has a voice though!
OMG darling... you are making me aware that there is another eurovision going on already!!! Ama.... this woman - Isis Gee - she is American!!! How come is she representing Poland... :-S She definitely has a voice though!
I was taking a look at TRT INT (smt I always do in commercials of the series I watch), and there they broadcasted it. I was in shock as well!!!
I dont know who she is, only know that she has such male shaped hands
Why is this such a horrible thing, eh? She seems like a very nice person and surely has talent.
I dont know! I have something with hands I guess! I just think it looks awful when you are all dressed up like a lady and then, whilst singing, you raise your hand, and suddenly look like a man
I dont know! I have something with hands I guess! I just think it looks awful when you are all dressed up like a lady and then, whilst singing, you raise your hand, and suddenly look like a man
I dont think I myself was invited either She suddenly acts to me with this whole -I'm your wife now-attitude but I can't remember reading my vows to her
Ohh!! Now I understand why I have forgotten: did you see what a fall I made around 50 seconds?? I pretend to get back up healthy and all, if only I had seen a doctor: No wonder I can't remember anything!
And kitty!! You really have to stop eating popcorn out of your pants!
I dont think I myself was invited either She suddenly acts to me with this whole -I'm your wife now-attitude but I can't remember reading my vows to her
Ohhh poor DK!! There, there now, don't cry over kitty. Maybe you could get a quick divorce and see if Daydreamer is still an option for you!
Catwoman-dear-wife-to-be, if you look like the singer of Poland for Songfestival, you are definitely the MALE-woman in our relationship
If you ask me she looks like a travy!
Actually there's been a rumour that Isis Gee was born with a penis However, nobody managed to prove it. Could it be that those Bed Americans sent us a gender-blender to embarrass our Catholic values? Or, is it a Jewish conspiracy? They seem to have an issue with Poles since the genocide Tamidakika was kind enough to mention...
Because I am fighting my way up to Sui! He agreed to be my man slave so I need to keep him close.
Sui? You are really feeling ambitious today! You do realize that you will need to go through a lot to get there, don't you? Among others it will be MrX and AlphaF you will be under before then...
Sui? You are really feeling ambitious today! You do realize that you will need to go through a lot to get there, don't you? Among others it will be MrX and AlphaF you will be under before then...
Yes, I know it will be a long and painful process....but once I set my mind to something I am determined.
My "send" button in the private messages is not working either... There must be a bug after the changes Admin was making yesterday (he added a new functionality - an "ignore list").
Ok, so far I narrowed down the problem to not being able to send PM's to LIR only... :-S
If anybody else has this problem, please write it here.
My "send" button in the private messages is not working either... There must be a bug after the changes Admin was making yesterday (he added a new functionality - an "ignore list").
Ok, so far I narrowed down the problem to not being able to send PM's to LIR only... :-S
If anybody else has this problem, please write it here.
Weird :S LL tried to send me a pm today as well but said hers wasn't working! Am I blacklisted????
Modify: However....I forgot ...I did get one from Lapinkulta
My "send" button in the private messages is not working either... There must be a bug after the changes Admin was making yesterday (he added a new functionality - an "ignore list").
Ok, so far I narrowed down the problem to not being able to send PM's to LIR only... :-S
If anybody else has this problem, please write it here.
Neither is mine. It is there, but you click it and nothing happens!! that should slow down spammers!!!
I just received a pm so its not affecting everyone
Could it be that you can't receive PMs only from moderators/admins?
Ok I'll pm someone I know and ask them to pm me back
I pm'd 3 people. One replied that she couldn't reply to my message direct - she had to go to my profile and send a message from there. One replied that she tried to send a message but the send button wouldn't work (however I got that one!). Third one hasn't replied at all although still signed in - Modified: Just saw him say in chat room that he received my pm but couldnt reply - he says it said something about 'spam'
I pm'd 3 people. One replied that she couldn't reply to my message direct - she had to go to my profile and send a message from there. One replied that she tried to send a message but the send button wouldn't work (however I got that one!). Third one hasn't replied at all although still signed in - Modified: Just saw him say in chat room that he received my pm but couldnt reply - he says it said something about 'spam'
Thank you Lady in Red for this little experiment. I'm sorry about this problem, will try to fix it as soon as we can. Thanks.
Seems like the send button problem is causing chaos across the whole of the TC network! ............. Bit like the signalling problems of Network Rail here in the UK!
I started to get bored from studying, working and doing something!!!
But i started to believe that i wouldnt be that lucky as a resort worker, even the CV i have!!!!
I started to get bored from studying, working and doing something!!!
But i started to believe that i wouldnt be that lucky as a resort worker, even the CV i have!!!!
Maybe i should change my profession :-S
oh no! another exam time coming... gotta go...
Resort workers come in all ages, shapes and sizes.......... I am sure you don't need a CV, just a roving eye and the gift of the gab
I started to get bored from studying, working and doing something!!!
But i started to believe that i wouldnt be that lucky as a resort worker, even the CV i have!!!!
Maybe i should change my profession :-S
oh no! another exam time coming... gotta go...
Resort workers come in all ages, shapes and sizes.......... I am sure you don't need a CV, just a roving eye and the gift of the gab
Not in my resort they don't! Average age is about 23, all small and slim and the majority very good looking!!! It's like they've been cloned!!!
I started to get bored from studying, working and doing something!!!
But i started to believe that i wouldnt be that lucky as a resort worker, even the CV i have!!!!
Maybe i should change my profession :-S
oh no! another exam time coming... gotta go...
Resort workers come in all ages, shapes and sizes.......... I am sure you don't need a CV, just a roving eye and the gift of the gab
Not in my resort they don't! Average age is about 23, all small and slim and the majority very good looking!!! It's like they've been cloned!!!
Plenty of eye candy then? In Oludeniz, there were several "Fuglies" about and still the dippy girls slumped all over them
I started to get bored from studying, working and doing something!!!
But i started to believe that i wouldnt be that lucky as a resort worker, even the CV i have!!!!
Maybe i should change my profession :-S
oh no! another exam time coming... gotta go...
Resort workers come in all ages, shapes and sizes.......... I am sure you don't need a CV, just a roving eye and the gift of the gab
Not in my resort they don't! Average age is about 23, all small and slim and the majority very good looking!!! It's like they've been cloned!!!
Plenty of eye candy then? In Oludeniz, there were several "Fuglies" about and still the dippy girls slumped all over them
Even "Fuglies" become good looking after 3 or 4 margarita's .. even more so after 3 or 4 "seni seviyorums"
was it used for apologizing... or waiting for some to apologize from you..
I beg your pardon, can be taken as a sarcastic (Hey we are British and good at that!) comment, if you have made a slightly offensive remark to someone.
In the olden days (even before my time ) is was a very polite way of asking for someones forgiveness, if you have mildly offended someone in a face to face conversation, something along those lines anyway.
No doubt it came from our mediaeval times, when one was about to have one's head chopped off for stealing apples or something trivial like that
Wasn't able to get on to TC for a week, for some reason the site wouldn't load at all. Must be a sign from above since I had important stuff at school which I passed with flying colours so far Hope the rest will go fine too now that I have gained access again
Offf I drank redbull after dinner to stay awake after a very tiring week, because I had to go on studying. Now I decided to drink a glass of wine to 'undo' the effect of the redbull so I can actually get some sleep and wake up in time to go to work tomorrow morning, ama nasıl çarptı yaaa :-S
Wasn't able to get on to TC for a week, for some reason the site wouldn't load at all. Must be a sign from above since I had important stuff at school which I passed with flying colours so far Hope the rest will go fine too now that I have gained access again
TLC seems to be in the doldrums just now with only 3 or 4 logging in, sometimes none
I think there is quite a problem with the site at the moment. I know several people who are unable to get in at all for days on end! Personally I can often get in in the mornings but not for the rest of the day :-S
I think there is quite a problem with the site at the moment. I know several people who are unable to get in at all for days on end! Personally I can often get in in the mornings but not for the rest of the day :-S
I’ve been having problems but it depends on where I am and how I am connecting to the internet.
From my office in Sacramento I cannot connect to TC using my own wireless connection (I enter the web address and end up on a search page that shows TC but even if I click on that link I can’t get in).
But if I connect through my company’s wireless I can get in with no problems.
Now, I have been traveling for the past two days and I am about 200 miles from home and I can get in to TC using my own connection again without problems.
It’s very strange!!
I think there is quite a problem with the site at the moment. I know several people who are unable to get in at all for days on end! Personally I can often get in in the mornings but not for the rest of the day :-S
I’ve been having problems but it depends on where I am and how I am connecting to the internet.
From my office in Sacramento I cannot connect to TC using my own wireless connection (I enter the web address and end up on a search page that shows TC but even if I click on that link I can’t get in).
But if I connect through my company’s wireless I can get in with no problems.
Now, I have been traveling for the past two days and I am about 200 miles from home and I can get in to TC using my own connection again without problems.
It’s very strange!!
Do you think TC has been cursed???? (or maybe just certain members )
TLC seems to be in the doldrums just now with only 3 or 4 logging in, sometimes none
I have a different theory.
Inspired by Turkey's approach to YouTube, George Bush and Gordon Brown are taking action in the interests of democracy and world peace to stop "bed" Americans and British from entering sites where they make comments criticising Turkishness.
TLC seems to be in the doldrums just now with only 3 or 4 logging in, sometimes none
I have a different theory.
Inspired by Turkey's approach to YouTube, George Bush and Gordon Brown are taking action in the interests of democracy and world peace to stop "bed" Americans and British from entering sites where they make comments criticising Turkishness.
Yes, the turkish government has threatened George Bush once again to support turkey and their efforts. All bed Amerikans will be held to article 301. I guess I must have slipped through, however I never criticize Turkey.
Do you think TC has been cursed???? (or maybe just certain members )
At this point we are not sure how the curse can be lifted but to get around it on your computer you can follow the steps outlined in the following thread:
I also could not open TC for the past few weeks. It becomes a real luck if I can open the TC using my laptop at home, like now.
When using my mobile, I can always open TC site with the mobile version. Yet if openning with computer version, it always gets the same problem.
Thanks, admin, I will try your instructions posted on the thread.
Do you think TC has been cursed???? (or maybe just certain members )
At this point we are not sure how the curse can be lifted but to get around it on your computer you can follow the steps outlined in the following thread:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_30562
I have the problem only from my job, but at home with my att connections it never happens. I had assumed that my company was excluding sites they consider "education/travel" during peak hours to lower the load on their servers.
I spent a lovely afternoon sunbathing at the ocean yesterday. The best thing about it was that Greenpeace folks didn't try to push me into the water Quoting after Sasha Cohen "Great success!"
Sadly,i just found out that Lapin and Jan have left TLC Wonder why !
And that means we wont be expecting any new threads like 'Whom lapin has threatened today' type i guess
Sadly,i just found out that Lapin and Jan have left TLC Wonder why !
And that means we wont be expecting any new threads like 'Whom lapin has threatened today' type i guess
Oh btw i forgot, i go with LL on that one
But canli, why did you not show your sensitivity when lapin was childishly threatening people here?
He very well deserved 'Whom lapin has threatened today' thread if you ask me..
Sadly,i just found out that Lapin and Jan have left TLC Wonder why !
And that means we wont be expecting any new threads like 'Whom lapin has threatened today' type i guess
Oh btw i forgot, i go with LL on that one
But canli, why did you not show your sensitivity when lapin was childishly threatening people here?
He very well deserved 'Whom lapin has threatened today' thread if you ask me..
+1 - he spent far too much time sending veiled threats by pm. I am sure he didn't leave because of this thread - he is not that sensitive. Sorry to see janiss go though.
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
Adios amigos!
Pity that paranoia stroke more than them,Personally I do not consider them racists,and I do not care if u agree or disagree.
Sadly,i just found out that Lapin and Jan have left TLC Wonder why !
And that means we wont be expecting any new threads like 'Whom lapin has threatened today' type i guess
Oh btw i forgot, i go with LL on that one
But canli, why did you not show your sensitivity when lapin was childishly threatening people here?
He very well deserved 'Whom lapin has threatened today' thread if you ask me..
But canli, why did you not show your sensitivity when lapin was childishly threatening people here?
First,i dont need to show anything handsom,its my opinion and im entitled to it
Second,for me personally,i havent seen any threatening from him here,maybe i missed it but never the less,what would a threaten in forum over the net be ?!
Third,if its as you said,a childish threaten,so when a child bites you for example,you would bite him back ?!!!
Quoting thehandsom:
He very well deserved 'Whom lapin has threatened today' thread if you ask me..
You could have taken it over PM's as a personal matter,even its against the forum rules too as i believe
So,sorry for saying this but the way i see it,it was a childish thread also
Anyway,i didnt say that it was the reason he or jan left,i dont know the reasons,ama as i said i thought that thread was childish so i didnt join it at the time,but the man is already left and i should have said my opinion about it...so i just did
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
Adios amigos!
İ dont consider them racists too AEnigma,they have their own opinions and they were different than yours
İts their rights also
İt doesnt make them racists because they live differently,or they believe differently !
they can say the same about you, 'Anti Turk ' or what ever for same reason too
You think and believe differently
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
Adios amigos!
İ dont consider them racists too AEnigma,they have their own opinions and they were different than yours
İts their rights also
İt doesnt make them racists because they live differently,or they believe differently !
they can say the same about you, 'Anti Turk ' or what ever for same reason too
You think and believe differently
well said canli
It seems that only pro...pro...pro..nobody knows what opinions are appreciated and the opposite considered anti..anti..,biased,etc....
Good boys they are loving their country...why so hard 2 understand for someone who was not brought in that culture???
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
Adios amigos!
İ dont consider them racists too AEnigma,they have their own opinions and they were different than yours
İts their rights also
İt doesnt make them racists because they live differently,or they believe differently !
they can say the same about you, 'Anti Turk ' or what ever for same reason too
You think and believe differently
well said canli
It seems that only pro...pro...pro..nobody knows what opinions are appreciated and the opposite considered anti..anti..,biased,etc....
Good boys they are loving their country...why so hard 2 understand for someone who was not brought in that culture???
Well..
I am sorry but you both got it wrong!!
First of all, what Canli is saying is politically INCORRECT.
"They live differently,or they believe differently" CAN make you racist. Opinions/ideas make people racist/faschist/communist/feminists/sexists etc..
I dont want to talk from their back personally, but i can dig you many many racist comments from their previous threads.
'Loving country' is a different matter here..
It is not a love with knowing what 'loving your country' means..
It is a feeling results of years and years of stupid brain washing. Not love.
It is a love in such as 'if you dont think the way I think, you are my enemy, because I love my country' type love.
It is a love that they love so much so as they can kill country's enemies like Hrant Dink, Orhan Pamuk etc.
We dont need that feeling in Turkey.
That 'so called' love is my beautiful country's enemy, a huge obsticle for creating a democratic/free Turkey.
I wont be crying any crocodile tears that either of those paranoid racists have gone. I attempted many times to try and reason with them and calm things down but they refused to respond, except by threat.
Adios amigos!
İ dont consider them racists too AEnigma,they have their own opinions and they were different than yours
İts their rights also
İt doesnt make them racists because they live differently,or they believe differently !
they can say the same about you, 'Anti Turk ' or what ever for same reason too
You think and believe differently
well said canli
It seems that only pro...pro...pro..nobody knows what opinions are appreciated and the opposite considered anti..anti..,biased,etc....
Good boys they are loving their country...why so hard 2 understand for someone who was not brought in that culture???
Well..
I am sorry but you both got it wrong!!
First of all, what Canli is saying is politically INCORRECT.
"They live differently,or they believe differently" CAN make you racist. Opinions/ideas make people racist/faschist/communist/feminists/sexists etc..
I dont want to talk about their back personally, but i can dig you many many racist comments from their previous threads.
'Loving country' is a different matter here..
It is not a love with knowing what 'loving your country' means..
It is a feeling results of years and years of stupid brain washing. Not love.
It is a love in such as 'if you dont think the way I think, you are my enemy, because I love my country' type love.
It is a love that they love so much so as they can kill country's enemies like Hrant Dink, Orhan Pamuk etc.
We dont need that feeling in Turkey.
That 'so called' love is my beautiful country's enemy, a huge obsticle for creating a democratic/free Turkey.
Come off it the handsome..just admit that you do not like them
İm sorry handsom but it seems that YOU got it wrong here
İts not about politic here,nope,its simply about freedom!
They are free to have their own opinions as you are free to have yours
Simply...FREEDOM !
Living in UK i thought you got it
And frankly,their only mistake here was they were defending their country by the way they see it ,you may agree with it or you may not,that is your opinion,but still that doesnt make them racists!
İm sorry handsom but it seems that YOU got it wrong here
İts not about politic here,nope,its simply about freedom!
Ther are free to have their own opinions as you are free to have yours
Simply...FREEDOM !
Living in UK i thought you got it
And frankly,their only mistake here was they were defending their country by the way they see it ,you may agree with it or you may not,that is your opinion,but still that doesnt make them racists!
I support!!!!So eager some are to call them racists..but They are NOT!!!!
They are free to have their own opinions as you are free to have yours
Simply...FREEDOM !
You got this exactly right.....unfortunatly, the brothers never felt the same way about people and opinions.
They didn't allow for anyone to have their own opinions about Turkey.
And whether the threats were valid or not, no one here should ever be threatened by another member.
İm sorry handsom but it seems that YOU got it wrong here
İts not about politic here,nope,its simply about freedom!
They are free to have their own opinions as you are free to have yours
Simply...FREEDOM !
Living in UK i thought you got it
And frankly,their only mistake here was they were defending their country by the way they see it ,you may agree with it or you may not,that is your opinion,but still that doesnt make them racists!
ha ha
I think you did not know what I am trying to say here..
For example..
There is bnp in the uk..British nationalist party..racist party..fascist party..
Do they have freedom to express their opinions?
YES..
Do I have express my opinion about them bye calling them racist?
YES..
I have right to call BNP ideas as racist and as a Turk, I have right to say what opinions in my country are racists opinions..
That is all..
ha ha
I think you did not know what I am trying to say here..
For example..
There is bnp in the uk..British nationalist party..racist party..fascist party..
Do they have freedom to express their opinions?
YES..
Do I have express my opinion about them bye calling them racist?
YES..
I have right to call BNP ideas as racist and as a Turk, I have right to say what opinions in my country are racists opinions..
That is all..
Yes,you have the right to call BNP ideas as racist,sure
But i dont think you have the right to call anyone racist unless they were officially condemned by it
Or else they also would have the right to call you Anti Turk...or more
And then ?!
Keep exchanging accusations ?!
that would brought us again to ...FREEDOM ?!
U simply miss the Black Sea brothers..what a TC life will be?nobody to argue,nobody to call names..Alpha is quiet enjoying his retirement from TC BORING
You got this exactly right.....unfortunatly, the brothers never felt the same way about people and opinions.
They didn't allow for anyone to have their own opinions about Turkey.
Still,that doesnt make them racists !
Quoting girleegirl:
And whether the threats were valid or not, no one here should ever be threatened by another member.
İ agree with that,tho i dont have any information about such,so i actually cant talk about it
I don't agree with many of their sayings, but I don't think they are real racists either. To be honest, I think it was mainly a problem of English. Often they posted a racist sentence, but when they later explained it, it turned out to be not so racist as it looked at first.
Yet, I wonder what this habit of TC is to keep discussing members that are gone, especially by people who are happy to see those members have gone
ha ha
I think you did not know what I am trying to say here..
For example..
There is bnp in the uk..British nationalist party..racist party..fascist party..
Do they have freedom to express their opinions?
YES..
Do I have express my opinion about them bye calling them racist?
YES..
I have right to call BNP ideas as racist and as a Turk, I have right to say what opinions in my country are racists opinions..
That is all..
Yes,you have the right to call BNP ideas as racist,sure
But i dont think you have the right to call anyone racist unless they were officially condemned by it
Or else they also would have the right to call you Anti Turk...or more
And then ?!
Keep exchanging accusations ?!
that would brought us again to ...FREEDOM ?!
But you are forgeting one thing here I think Canli.
I am Turkish and I like to think that I have some knowledge about Turkish politics in a way that I can make a judgment what ideas are racist ideas.
ha ha
I think you did not know what I am trying to say here..
For example..
There is bnp in the uk..British nationalist party..racist party..fascist party..
Do they have freedom to express their opinions?
YES..
Do I have express my opinion about them bye calling them racist?
YES..
I have right to call BNP ideas as racist and as a Turk, I have right to say what opinions in my country are racists opinions..
That is all..
Yes,you have the right to call BNP ideas as racist,sure
But i dont think you have the right to call anyone racist unless they were officially condemned by it
Or else they also would have the right to call you Anti Turk...or more
And then ?!
Keep exchanging accusations ?!
that would brought us again to ...FREEDOM ?!
But you are forgeting one thing here I think Canli.
I am Turkish and I like to think that I have some knowledge about Turkish politics in a way that I can make a judgment what ideas are racist ideas.
I am not Turkish but of Turkish origin and believe me my family never consider themselves racists although their opinions are so close not to say the same like jan's and lapin's.Strange,perhaps the point of view changes when u emigrate as a Turk abroad and get the grasp of so called reform wind?no idea!
But you are forgeting one thing here I think Canli.
I am Turkish and I like to think that I have some knowledge about Turkish politics in a way that I can make a judgment what ideas are racist ideas.
handsome ?!!! Ok let me say it much MORE clear
Lapin and Jan are NOT ideas,they are poeple,HUMANS
And i dont think you or anyone have the right to call them racits which they were not simply because you dont agree with them !
To condemn anyone by that !
I am not Turkish but of Turkish origin and believe me my family never consider themselves racists although their opinions are so close not to say the same like jan's and lapin's.Strange,perhaps the point of view changes when u emigrate as a Turk abroad and get the grasp of so called reform wind?no idea!
I think, I explained in my previous posts..
My imigration never changed my point of view.
On the contrary, I was more critical with harsher words ragarding racism and nationalism when I was in Turkey.
You are trying to pull the point into a non existing angle here.
I agree.They are people with their beliefs and opinions and they have the same right like others to express their opinions no matter if someone likes it or not!
Actually,i asked this for a reason,you said ''I was more critical with harsher words ragarding racism and nationalism when I was in Turkey.''
So, you were that free in Türkiye to express your opinion in a harsher ways as you said
You have that freedom
Even as i understood,you said the political system is shutting people's mouths !
So you got me confused
Actually,i asked this for a reason,you said ''I was more critical with harsher words ragarding racism and nationalism when I was in Turkey.''
So, you were that free in Türkiye to express your opinion in a harsher ways as you said
You have that freedom
Even as i understood,you said the political system is shutting people's mouths !
So you got me confused
Canli i do not know what is going on but it seems to me that the point of view depends on your conformism skills.thehandsome is a perfect example of it.Who knows if he does not share the same opinions like Lapin and Jan in his house but in the eye of publicity,Tc Publicity goes for totally different ones???
Actually,i asked this for a reason,you said ''I was more critical with harsher words ragarding racism and nationalism when I was in Turkey.''
So, you were that free in Türkiye to express your opinion in a harsher ways as you said
You have that freedom
Even as i understood,you said the political system is shutting people's mouths !
So you got me confused
Canli i do not know what is going on but it seems to me that the point of view depends on your conformism skills.thehandsome is a perfect example of it.Who knows if he does not share the same opinions like Lapin and Jan in his house but in the eye of publicity,Tc Publicity goes for totally different ones???
Canli,
In order the explain properly how political system is shutting people's mouth may take a longer post about the development of freedom of speech in turkey and the recent history of turkey (say from 1970's up to now)
But just a quick note about it will be the number of political prisoners in Turkey since 1980 and the number of court cases against the people who happened to be expressing their opinions.
avalon, look..I never considered myself as conformist. I dont need people agreeing with me. I dont care to be honest.
and for the record, in my house (or where ever I am) I try to be consistant with my ideas. So my ideas are whatever I express here, same in my house as well..
Thoughts,Traditions and belives,do change not even from a country to another,but also with in the same country from a place to another
That goes every where
Sure i will miss the black sea threads
Still wish them hayır
I don't think the problem with BSB was what they thought but how they expressed it. They were biased, one-sided and aggressive, which didn't actually add them credibility. If you think that they were criticised because they love they country, you must have missed 90% of their posts. Though I wouldn't call them racists, they clearly are nationalists and nationalism is not something good like patriotism. They live in a world of paranoia - everybody is out to get them - the USA has a plan to divide them, the Kurds, who, by the way, have no problem with being Turkish, want to take over half of their country, the whole west wants to dominate Turkey. The only point is why. That's what they never explained. Turkey, although surely interesting, is neither a supremacy nor a unique location. BSBs way of debating reminds me somewhat of Achmet The Dead Terrorist - Silence! I kill you!
I know they're probably young and thus more likely to perceive things in black and white only, and I know English is not their native tongue, but they pushed it, most users here aren't native English speakers as well. It'll do them good to calm down, maybe go abroad and see some world so that when they return to Turkey they'll see how wrong they were.
I don't think the problem with BSB was what they thought but how they expressed it. They were biased, one-sided and aggressive, which didn't actually add them credibility. If you think that they were criticised because they love they country, you must have missed 90% of their posts. Though I wouldn't call them racists, they clearly are nationalists and nationalism is not something good like patriotism. They live in a world of paranoia - everybody is out to get them - the USA has a plan to divide them, the Kurds, who, by the way, have no problem with being Turkish, want to take over half of their country, the whole west wants to dominate Turkey. The only point is why. That's what they never explained. Turkey, although surely interesting, is neither a supremacy nor a unique location. BSBs way of debating reminds me somewhat of Achmet The Dead Terrorist - Silence! I kill you!
I know they're probably young and thus more likely to perceive things in black and white only, and I know English is not their native tongue, but they pushed it, most users here aren't native English speakers as well. It'll do them good to calm down, maybe go abroad and see some world so that when they return to Turkey they'll see how wrong they were.
Daydreamer - you are the voice of reason! I would have liked to have looked at your link but that site appears to be banned in Turkey!
Well..
I am sorry but you both got it wrong!!
First of all, what Canli is saying is politically INCORRECT.
"They live differently,or they believe differently" CAN make you racist. Opinions/ideas make people racist/faschist/communist/feminists/sexists etc..
I dont want to talk from their back personally, but i can dig you many many racist comments from their previous threads.
'Loving country' is a different matter here..
It is not a love with knowing what 'loving your country' means..
It is a feeling results of years and years of stupid brain washing. Not love.
It is a love in such as 'if you dont think the way I think, you are my enemy, because I love my country' type love.
It is a love that they love so much so as they can kill country's enemies like Hrant Dink, Orhan Pamuk etc.
We dont need that feeling in Turkey.
That 'so called' love is my beautiful country's enemy, a huge obsticle for creating a democratic/free Turkey.
Perfectly expressed Handsom.
I am sure Canli and Avalon would similarly have defended Hitler!
It seems rather unfair to talk behind people's back.
Although I don't agree with some of what is being said above, some of the comments are a bit strong. It is not exactly talking behind someones back. TC is public and I am sure they both view the site - they have been around here far too long just to walk away. If they wanted to respond they would join again.
I am not defending it but it is not the first time that someone has been discussed after they have been deleted and it wont be the last.
Talking behind someones back is discussing someone via PM and I sure most of us are guilty of that at some point.
I don't agree with many of their sayings, but I don't think they are real racists either. To be honest, I think it was mainly a problem of English. Often they posted a racist sentence, but when they later explained it, it turned out to be not so racist as it looked at first.
Yet, I wonder what this habit of TC is to keep discussing members that are gone, especially by people who are happy to see those members have gone
I agree with this too. Patriotic and nationalist, but I don't believe racist...
I don't think the problem with BSB was what they thought but how they expressed it. They were biased, one-sided and aggressive, which didn't actually add them credibility. If you think that they were criticised because they love they country, you must have missed 90% of their posts. Though I wouldn't call them racists, they clearly are nationalists and nationalism is not something good like patriotism. They live in a world of paranoia - everybody is out to get them - the USA has a plan to divide them, the Kurds, who, by the way, have no problem with being Turkish, want to take over half of their country, the whole west wants to dominate Turkey. The only point is why. That's what they never explained. Turkey, although surely interesting, is neither a supremacy nor a unique location. BSBs way of debating reminds me somewhat of Achmet The Dead Terrorist - Silence! I kill you!
I know they're probably young and thus more likely to perceive things in black and white only, and I know English is not their native tongue, but they pushed it, most users here aren't native English speakers as well. It'll do them good to calm down, maybe go abroad and see some world so that when they return to Turkey they'll see how wrong they were.
handsom,in what region/city in Türkiye were you from ?
Canli hairy never says that like he is ashamed of his origin))))tut,tut,tut
Ohhh i never meant that,but actually he raised many questions in my mind related to that,so i asked.
I have never ever been ashamed of about where I am from..
You are wrong on that (again!! )
Then why have you always been so reluctant to shre this information?
Maybe because its none of anyone's business. Actually, I don't understand the relevance to TC - why should we need to know what part of a country someone was born in? And anyone could say anything - I could tell you I was born in Liverpool, London, Manchester, anywhere in England - how would you know whether or not I was telling the truth?
Because Türkiye is one of the gates to the Middle East and Asia also
Why would the West 'UK' and USA interested in the Middle East and Asia,you can ask them that
We gladly welcome their departure form here !
So,to think that its TOTALLY wrong what you have stated above would be consider a bit naive !
I am sure Canli and Avalon would similarly have defended Hitler!
Hitting two birds with one stone are we ? So was this meant to be for me,or for them ,or for both of us ?!
Are you suggesting they are like Hitler now ? or do you mean i am racists for defending them or what ?!!! Accusing people about things because you dont agree with them is not what we can call tolerance is it ?!
See,there is not much difference between West and East now is there ?!
Even difference in Traditions ,in believes...ect
But STİLL,both tend to attack who doesnt agree with them in different ways of course
İ guess its a Human thing
I don't think the problem with BSB was what they thought but how they expressed it. They were biased, one-sided and aggressive, which didn't actually add them credibility. If you think that they were criticised because they love they country, you must have missed 90% of their posts. Though I wouldn't call them racists, they clearly are nationalists and nationalism is not something good like patriotism. They live in a world of paranoia - everybody is out to get them - the USA has a plan to divide them, the Kurds, who, by the way, have no problem with being Turkish, want to take over half of their country, the whole west wants to dominate Turkey. The only point is why. That's what they never explained. Turkey, although surely interesting, is neither a supremacy nor a unique location. BSBs way of debating reminds me somewhat of Achmet The Dead Terrorist - Silence! I kill you!
I know they're probably young and thus more likely to perceive things in black and white only, and I know English is not their native tongue, but they pushed it, most users here aren't native English speakers as well. It'll do them good to calm down, maybe go abroad and see some world so that when they return to Turkey they'll see how wrong they were.
Then why have you always been so reluctant to shre this information?
Don't you think it's his personal business where he's from?
It is personal of course and no one is forcing him. My only observation is this. In my entire life, I have never met anyone who declined to answer where they are from when asked. I find this very, very strange.
Then why have you always been so reluctant to shre this information?
Don't you think it's his personal business where he's from?
It is personal of course and no one is forcing him. My only observation is this. In my entire life, I have never met anyone who declined to answer where they are from when asked. I find this very, very strange.
I don't find it strange at all, judging by the way he was "asked". He was ridiculed and challenged as part of a childish game. Since it is nobody's business what part of Turkey thehandsom is from, I find it very strange that people keep on making a big deal out of it.
Because Türkiye is one of the gates to the Middle East and Asia also
Why would the West 'UK' and USA interested in the Middle East and Asia,you can ask them that
We gladly welcome their departure form here !
So,to think that its TOTALLY wrong what you have stated above would be consider a bit naive !
I don't think it's more naive than seeing land-hungry enemies everywhere and using scheme maps from 2004 for that. Besides,Turkey is no enemy of the USA, au contraire, it's a US supporter so why should the US go on a war with Turkey if they get what they want from them anyway? Iraq is a different thing. US will put a US favourable government there and that's all.
Besides, you missed one point there - BSB would say there are no problems with Kurds and, at the same time, they'd say that the US supports Kurdish separation. What separation if there are no Kurds unhappy with Turkish nationalism? They would gladly see enemies everywhere. That's actually a must of nationalism. It was the same with Hitler - there were enemies of the Reich, to save his motherland he just had to show them to people. And he did have proofs of it! Hence, bence, Ae's Hitler metaphor that surprised you. Nationalism is nationalism, no matter what country it is.
Then why have you always been so reluctant to shre this information?
Don't you think it's his personal business where he's from?
It is personal of course and no one is forcing him. My only observation is this. In my entire life, I have never met anyone who declined to answer where they are from when asked. I find this very, very strange.
I don't find it strange at all, judging by the way he was "asked". He was ridiculed and challenged as part of a childish game. Since it is nobody's business what part of Turkey thehandsom is from, I find it very strange that people keep on making a big deal out of it.
Some people share every detail of their life and others prefer to keep incognito - it is everyone's perogative to be either way.
Sorry but I dont agree. I dont tell my last name or the city I live in on the internet. It may be clear for everyone that I live in the Netherlands, but only few know through PM what my city is and only catwoman knows my entire address, still waiting for my -afterexam-gift Just joking, hon!
the exact place in TR where he landed it is still a mystery
I don't think that matters Most Turks I know have more hair than I have had on my entire body for all my life, and Im including all the ones I have waxed, shaved, cut, regularly lost
the exact place in TR where he landed it is still a mystery
I don't think that matters Most Turks I know have more hair than I have had on my entire body for all my life, and Im including all the ones I have waxed, shaved, cut, regularly lost
Then why have you always been so reluctant to shre this information?
Don't you think it's his personal business where he's from?
It is personal of course and no one is forcing him. My only observation is this. In my entire life, I have never met anyone who declined to answer where they are from when asked. I find this very, very strange.
You are really bizzare!! If you can tell me "one good reason" about how it might be related to what I write here, I will be happy to say where I am from..
Many of friends already know it.
I pmed canli for example the other night with the info.
why should I post and bother others with that insignificant info?
pm me..ask politely..I will tell..
Besides,Turkey is no enemy of the USA, au contraire, it's a US supporter
Thats why US doesnt enter a war with Türkiye
Quoting Daydreamer:
so why should the US go on a war with Turkey if they get what they want from them anyway?
Because they dont get what they want from them anyway !
The İraq war is a good example too
So in return,although USA and UK occupy İraq,and surely protecting the borders is their responsibilities
Or their puppet government 'İf US ordered them of course' but still it didnt stop the PKK and their attacks,by protecting the borders of the country under their authorities
So made a mess and let Türkiye handle it
İt will be gain by all means
- Will keep İraq occupied in a war with Türkiye and save USA and UK some headache
- Will make Türkiye occupied in a war with PKK and may need or ask for USA help ...what a catch - USA will be against the Turkish operation in the first as a peace maker 'as it happened',then will agree with it,because its looking for its allay interests 'making Türkiye a favor as if turkish will buy it '
- Türkiye will lose its credibility in both the Middle East and the İslamic world for fighting İraq
Türkiye was smart enough not falling in it and the operations were limited as they have said ,and we were smart enough not condemning Türkiye too,so they didnt lose their credibility
İf this is how allaies plays for each other favors,i dont want to think about how will they play against
We have proverb says ' Oh God YOU handle my friends,but my enemies i will handle'
Quoting Daydreamer:
Besides, you missed one point there - BSB would say there are no problems with Kurds and, at the same time, they'd say that the US supports Kurdish separation. What separation if there are no Kurds unhappy with Turkish nationalism?
Well,i didnt miss it,only they are not around to reply or explain so i felt we shouldnt discuss it but still it make sense to me in the concept of war is HELL !
They say there is no problem with Kurd because they see them as Turkish 'Citezens' and they would have same problems just like any Turk in the same areas Kurds live in
On the other hand,if you live in a country,and because of many reasons,wars,politics,...ect through the years it vanished and been into another many countries
Even if you are happy living in those countries,even if you have the rights as a citizen of that country,you still would want to have your country back no matter how many years passed,right ?!
So it make sense
And also it make sense citizen of those countries will be against seperations,no ?!
Quoting Daydreamer:
They would gladly see enemies everywhere. That's actually a must of nationalism. It was the same with Hitler - there were enemies of the Reich, to save his motherland he just had to show them to people. And he did have proofs of it! Hence, bence, Ae's Hitler metaphor that surprised you. Nationalism is nationalism, no matter what country it is.
Thats what my Dictonary says about Nationalism
-Love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it
-The doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other
-The aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination
-The doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals
So as you see,you can have your pick of the kind of Nationalism you should have,or you shouldnt have for all it matters !
So,why would you assume that they took Hitler's chioce of it ?!
İ never read any post for them saying that Türkiye should dominate or such as !
İ have my pick also from this,and i think nationalism is great
İ love my country,and i would have fight for it if its under foreign domination
that would makes me Hitler ?!
Well,i didnt miss it,only they are not around to reply or explain so i felt we shouldnt discuss it but still it make sense to me in the concept of war is HELL !
Thats what my Dictonary says about Nationalism
-Love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it
-The doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other -The aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination
-The doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals
So as you see,you can have your pick of the kind of Nationalism you should have,or you shouldnt have for all it matters ! So,why would you assume that they took Hitler's chioce of it ?!
İ never read any post for them saying that Türkiye should dominate or such as ! İ have my pick also from this,and i think nationalism is great İ love my country,and i would have fight for it if its under foreign domination
that would makes me Hitler ?!
I for one am sad to see Lapinkulta and Janissary leave. I'm not surprised they did, or that so many of our former members have left annoyed and frustrated. The ever diplomatic vineyards has left....can you people get a grip on what you are doing....or is it intentional?
Why should they stay? Certain members here insult them, and Turkish culture over and over again. They don't listen, instead they arrogantly talk about how they 'love' Turkey....but if one reads carefully it's obvious they like the country, not the people or the culture.(maybe certain people who conform to their ideas of how one should be)
You can't even let them use a toilet in peace, but you have to go on about how they s**t making fun of how they 'do' it. Like your wiped but unwashed bottom and sit toilet is better?
Turkey has big problems now. The PKK thing is serious, very serious. There are subtleties few here have any real comprehension about. Some have even suggested Turkey give part of their land to be Kurdistan or part of Armenia....and you wonder why people are upset. You call them paranoid? Are you crazy?
Turkey is part of the Fertile Crescent...the headwaters of the Tigress and Euphrates are there. They have miles of coast...everyone wants waterfront property. Many wars have been fought over just that. Of course they are nationalistic and why not? It's their country and they want to defend it. Can anyone blame them for that?
The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East†has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East†was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome.
The Turkish Chief of Staff, General Buyukanit, contacted the U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Peter Pace, and protested the event and the exhibition of the redrawn map of the Middle East, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.9 Furthermore the Pentagon has gone out of its way to assure Turkey that the map does not reflect official U.S. policy and objectives in the region, but this seems to be conflicting with Anglo-American actions in the Middle East and NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan.
Canli, I'm not going to quote popular dictionary definitions, but there is a difference between patriotism and nationalism. BSB have shown the former rather than the latter - when they judged Bulent Ersoy, when they talked about banished writers and intellectuals. Their attitude was 'the only thing that matters is Turkey' - the rights of individuals come second. But it's not really why I think it's better they left. I don't mind anyone having whatever ideas. Their eagerness to insult everyone and pose threads is the reason. And, frankly speaking, I find it surprising that you, always being fair and polite, don't mind that.
As you noticed yourself - USA don't want war with Turkey. But, according to BSB, USA wanted to take it over, as did UK , Greece and I don't remember what else. They got paranoid, looked for terrorist plots and supporters everywhere and that lost them.
Alameda - girl, read the archives. The Middle East Plan has been already discussed, accounted for and proven ridiculous. I can't remember what thread it was in, but it should be in my archive.
Also, try to imagine that people are free to say what they think and to have a sense of humour. Laughing at toilets means insulting a country? That's unheard of. How come you write about Israeli terrorists? Isn't that insulting? Or, isn't it insulting that you snap at everyone who dares not to go down on his knees every time they hear Turkey, Islam or whatever? Be so lovey-dovey for the world first and then judge. As for people who were in favour of giving Kurds the right to vote whether they'd like to separate from Turkey, I can understand them although I don't agree with them . After all, Turkey supported Kosovo's independence. If a county like Turkey applauds land-theft, why shouldn't it be consequent and do the same on their own backyard?
After all, Turkey supported Kosovo's independence. If a county like Turkey applauds land-theft, why shouldn't it be consequent and do the same on their own backyard?
After all, Turkey supported Kosovo's independence. If a county like Turkey applauds land-theft, why shouldn't it be consequent and do the same on their own backyard?
You can't even let them use a toilet in peace, but you have to go on about how they s**t making fun of how they 'do' it. Like your wiped but unwashed bottom and sit toilet is better?
I wasn't making fun of them, just thought it was odd. It's ok if I comment, but receive comments back that I waste toilet paper. Who cares? Just like some ladies in Europe who don't shave their arm pits..I also think this is disgusting.. But I guess I'm wasting deoderant.. Why do you get so upset with thinking this is offensive? I don't understand.
After all, Turkey supported Kosovo's independence. If a county like Turkey applauds land-theft, why shouldn't it be consequent and do the same on their own backyard?
recognizing Kosovo as independent country was a mistake of international politics.This autonomy should not have been recognized under international law.It is totally artificial creature as Kosovo has never been independent country in its history..well,Silesian claims ..funny in a way could be recognized as right in this aspect as Silesia used to be historically independent with central prince power and ecomony(sorry,just a thought reminding me of Polish history,justified claim in a way..)Kosovo case reminds me of Israel..sorry adm..aritificial creature after 2nd world war...never existing on a map..real threat to world's peace...just like a bomb waiting to go off..
Because they dont get what they want from them anyway !
The İraq war is a good example too
So in return,although USA and UK occupy İraq,and surely protecting the borders is their responsibilities
Or their puppet government 'İf US ordered them of course' but still it didnt stop the PKK and their attacks,by protecting the borders of the country under their authorities
So made a mess and let Türkiye handle it
İt will be gain by all means
- Will keep İraq occupied in a war with Türkiye and save USA and UK some headache
- Will make Türkiye occupied in a war with PKK and may need or ask for USA help ...what a catch
- USA will be against the Turkish operation in the first as a peace maker 'as it happened',then will agree with it,because its looking for its allay interests 'making Türkiye a favor as if turkish will buy it '
- Türkiye will lose its credibility in both the Middle East and the İslamic world for fighting İraq
Türkiye was smart enough not falling in it and the operations were limited as they have said ,and we were smart enough not condemning Türkiye too,so they didnt lose their credibility
İf this is how allaies plays for each other favors,i dont want to think about how will they play against
We have proverb says ' Oh God YOU handle my friends,but my enemies i will handle'
Good observations but missing lots of dots. These are maybe short-term targets. Middle-east is a deep dark well. As for the Kurdish issue part, it is also known that since Arab-Israeli war Kurds are in contact with CIA & Mossad and still continues. And after the first Gulf war including PKK, Kurds went under the control of USA. So it is not possible to get rid of PKK with USA. Uğur Mumcu realised this and wrote seeing future before he bombed . He wrote in his column ““If Kurds are freedom fighters,making war against colonial expansion, whats the mission of CIA and Mossad with Kurds? Or, CIA &Mossad were fighting against antiimperalism and the world could not notice this?â€.
The thing people here could not understand that Turkia is unable to develop politics for south-east. The ones who tries to develop annihilated. Be sure that all of them Kurdish issue related. And by this government Turkia is unable to develop politics for the whole country. As far as i remember our “the handsom†member related them to deep state of Turkia even PKK issue. But his knowledge about deep state is like his history knowledge. The so-called deep-state is nothing but betrayers who permeated into the state especially in MIT, who are in contact with CIA & Mossad. Mumcu got realised this and killed. So it is clear that Turks and Kurds cannot live together anymore since they were promised by imperialists. They are also using Kurds to threaten Iran, building very big airports, army centers, in North Iraq by the help of them And for the last years, PKK is trying to be legalised by them, first step came from EU Brussels. Shortly Kurds are the latest subcontarctors of global forces who fed up with bloody money.
Quoting Daydreamer:
But it's not really why I think it's better they left. I don't mind anyone having whatever ideas. Their eagerness to insult everyone and pose threads is the reason. And, frankly speaking, I find it surprising that you, always being fair and polite, don't mind that.
Actually most of the active Turkish users left the site because of unjustiness of moderator. Imagine a moderator, do not respect people opinions, swear and insult more than members, obsessed with Islam, history and pride of Turks. As a result Turkish members continually provoked by some members and at last they lost their control.Finally the site becomes a place like; let me express this with a Turkish idiom shortly “Kendiniz çalıp kendiniz oynuyorsunuzâ€.
Quoting Daydreamer:
They got paranoid, looked for terrorist plots and supporters everywhere and that lost them.
Paranoid?? Just have a look to Americans to see paranoids. Let me quote again from Mumcu, he wrote in 1984 in his column “ Members of US congress who announced 24th April genocide date and who supports Armenian terrorist organizations, are the descendants of Americans who tried to establish and Armenian state on our lands in 1920â€. This written in 1984 and today seems nothing changed and Turks are paranoids huh?
Quoting Avalon:
I am not Turkish but of Turkish origin and believe me my family never consider themselves racists although their opinions are so close not to say the same like jan's and lapin's.Strange,perhaps the point of view changes when u emigrate as a Turk abroad and get the grasp of so called reform wind?no idea!
Do not take him serious, he do not represent the Turkey, just explains his opinions like everybody. But it seems he has a different agenda. He confuses all terms like nationalistic-patriotic-racist. It is the fact that Turkia is based on Atatürk nationalism, i dont doubt he will call Atatürk nationalism as racism. We see what happens if it is corrupted nowadays. If one invalidates this, country becomes a bloody lake. Will be like free-democratic Iraq , shiites are killing sunnis, sunnis are killing shiites, Kurds killing Turkmens.
For me the most cruel terrorist thing was Hiroshima and Nagasaki..and as far as I remeber there were not acts taken by Islam believers..so terrorism is not an invention by Eastern culture and religion
Btw Armegon i do not confuse anything)))))))))))
Their eagerness to insult everyone and pose threads is the reason. And, frankly speaking, I find it surprising that you, always being fair and polite, don't mind that.
Let's be fair DD,insults were mutual between them and other members
Sometimes were not adressed to them in plain English,sometimes it were
But it was there.
Quoting Daydreamer:
As you noticed yourself - USA don't want war with Turkey. But, according to BSB, USA wanted to take it over, as did UK , Greece and I don't remember what else. They got paranoid, looked for terrorist plots and supporters everywhere and that lost them..
İ dont believe USA wants to take over Türkiye,because simply it cant!
But as i said in my post,it caused problems accourding to its interests
So actually they were not totally wrong !
Quoting Daydreamer:
Alameda - girl, read the archives. The Middle East Plan has been already discussed, accounted for and proven ridiculous. I can't remember what thread it was in, but it should be in my archive.
Yes it has been discussed before,but it doesnt mean it is not true,so i belive they have many reasons to worry
As they said,no smoke without fire !
As far as I remember nobody here would go as far as saying "watch out or I'll..." which actually is what BSB did. That's child's psychology as far as I remember from psychology classes - once a child loses argument, they say you're stupid or, simply, they bite you or whatever
Provoking Turks? Come on, some things that go on there really come as shock to us. Where should we comment on that if not here? Please remember that perception changes with cultural background, what seems just for Turks may be ridiculous for me, a Eastern/Central European and might be unacceptable and appalling to an American.It's not a game titled 'make fun of Turks/Muslims' here. It is our observances and our reaction. We've seen that the folks here have a different sense of humour. Some get infuriated by Muslim jokes while even our Christian members are ok with Christianity jokes. It's all about distance. In another thread Tamidakika used the word 'cage' and was instantly accused of considering women animals, although I'm sure that's not he meant, the way I understood it, he was referring to gender segregation in mosques. Still, for a Muslim, his words were interpreted differently.
I come from a country that has used propaganda of terror for years. USA a global enemy, imperialistic scum that pestered Polish fields with potato-beetle. The only right system (i.e. communism) was promoted, capitalism was constantly criticised, democratic countries were shown as cesspit of moral decay that pose a threat to our values. Of course it was all nonsense, but it was all based on 'evidence.' I'm sure you know how easy it is to manipulate people. In result, some people actually did believe it and would give their lives to protect communism. When I hear global conspiracy theories based on 'evidence' I instantly think back to communism. Brainwashing, unease, fear let governments and religious leaders abuse people. If somebody chooses to believe it, I can't help it, but I will never agree with them.
What canli said above is a bit short sighted actually. Turkey's incursion to northern Iraq was an attempt by the army to keep itself in the center of politics.
Primarily, it was for the internal politics!!
I previously mentioned this on several occasions : We entered northern Iraq many times -I lost count to be honest-
They did not solve anything. did they?
THE LAST ONE DID NOT SOLVE ANYTHING EITHER!!!!!
I am still amazed after zillions of incursions, people -generically speaking- still support these, while shaking with national pride!!
All we end up with deads..
This is very sad, annoying and quite pathetic.
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These are maybe short-term targets. Middle-east is a deep dark well. As for the Kurdish issue part, it is also known that since Arab-Israeli war Kurds are in contact with CIA & Mossad and still continues. And after the first Gulf war including PKK, Kurds went under the control of USA. So it is not possible to get rid of PKK with USA. Ugur Mumcu realised this and wrote seeing future before he bombed . ..
. And by this government Turkia is unable to develop politics for the whole country. As far as i remember our “the handsom†member related them to deep state of Turkia even PKK issue. But his knowledge about deep state is like his history knowledge. The so-called deep-state is nothing but betrayers who permeated into the state especially in MIT, who are in contact with CIA & Mossad. Mumcu got realised this and killed.
I don't think you have much knowledge about the deep state in Turkey. when you say 'SO-called deep-state', you show your 'impeccable' knowledge about it by trying to make them as a trivial matter..(I will recommend you to read Cuneyt Arcayurek -derin devlet 1950-2007-, Suat Parlar -Osmanlidan gunumize Gizli Devlet-, Suat Parlar -Kontrgerilla kiskacinda Turkiye- and Reis (I dont remember the name of its writer now))
So what is deep-state exactly, in a nutshell?
As Demirel (ex PM and the ex president of Turkey) put it: "Deep state is the Army".
btw.. Ugur Mumcu was killed by the deep state..was he not?
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So it is clear that Turks and Kurds cannot live together anymore since they were promised by imperialists.
Well I disagree on that..
We have to live together..
We have to find ways of living together peacefully.
But, however, I can see only one obsticle on this objective and it is nationalism (mainly Turkish nationalism).
If you already believe that we can not live together, we are already lost part of Turkey.
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They are also using Kurds to threaten Iran, building very big airports, army centers, in North Iraq by the help of them And for the last years, PKK is trying to be legalised by them, first step came from EU Brussels. Shortly Kurds are the latest subcontarctors of global forces who fed up with bloody money.
Quoting Daydreamer:
But it's not really why I think it's better they left. I don't mind anyone having whatever ideas. Their eagerness to insult everyone and pose threads is the reason. And, frankly speaking, I find it surprising that you, always being fair and polite, don't mind that.
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Do not take him serious, he do not represent the Turkey, just explains his opinions like everybody. But it seems he has a different agenda. He confuses all terms like nationalistic-patriotic-racist. It is the fact that Turkia is based on Atatürk nationalism, i dont doubt he will call Atatürk nationalism as racism. We see what happens if it is corrupted nowadays. If one invalidates this, country becomes a bloody lake. Will be like free-democratic Iraq , shiites are killing sunnis, sunnis are killing shiites, Kurds killing Turkmens.
That is true that I am just expressing my opinions, like everybody else.
But I quite like to know what my agenda might be.. Like to shed some lights on this issue?
I don't think I am confusing the terms "nationalistic-patriotic-racist". My mind is quite clear about all those.. But what I am sure that, most of the Turks are unaware of where the borders of those terms.
If you think that what you have as nationalism in turkey is the nationalism Ataturk tried to implement, then you have no idea about the transformation of Turkish nationalism during second world war.
What you have is the racist nationalism of Nihat Atsiz not nationalism of Ataturk!!
Even if we ignore Nihal Atsiz factor, we are talking about the time which was 100 years ago. It was the rise of nationalism etc.
Nationalism itself, as an ideolgy, classify people as 'us' and 'them' .
That is part of the reason why it is easy to slide into racism from nationalism (same rule applies to religion as well).
Although Turkish nationalism came as a kind of revenge of Turks been belittled during end of ottoman era, but later on, lifting up Turkish nationalism went into extremism (even at some stage, they opened the grave of Architect Sinan and measured his scalp to see if he was Turkish!!)
The Kurdish problem is purely the result of this extremist nationalism for example. And it is so obvious, the extend of nationalism is undermining Ataturk's main objective of westernization for Turkey..
As one of our professors(Baskin Oran) put it 'nationalism was the necessary to build a state 100 years ago but now you have to get rid of the nationalism in order to keep your state together'.
Good point daydreamer....did you see the BBC series
Century of Self?
We are all propagandized to some degree. We have to try to look through it. The whole series can be seen on youtube.
Quoting Daydreamer:
When I hear global conspiracy theories based on 'evidence' I instantly think back to communism. Brainwashing, unease, fear let governments and religious leaders abuse people. If somebody chooses to believe it, I can't help it, but I will never agree with them.
what seems just for Turks may be ridiculous for me, a Eastern/Central European and might be unacceptable and appalling to an American.It's not a game titled 'make fun of Turks/Muslims' here. It is our observances and our reaction. We've seen that the folks here have a different sense of humour. Some get infuriated by Muslim jokes while even our Christian members are ok with Christianity jokes. It's all about distance. In another thread Tamidakika used the word 'cage' and was instantly accused of considering women animals, although I'm sure that's not he meant, the way I understood it, he was referring to gender segregation in mosques. Still, for a Muslim, his words were interpreted differently.
İ agree with many of that DD
Thats why where you an Eastern/Central European saw nothing wrong with using the word Cage while describing the place where women pray 'which frankly i have found it strange that coming from feminist,and also it was ok with all feminists in THAT matter! but thats another story' i as Eastern Muslim have found it OUTRAGEOUS coming from Eastern in a country where he is serounded by Muslims!
İn my country,we have Christians living with us and you can ask them how a Muslim women should pray,and they will fulfill you with the needed details as asking any Muslim,so actually you dont have to be Muslim to know !
You saw it as gender segregation in mosques,but i see it as very much secular man and how he is thinking of and respecting religious women being in the society
İt has nothing to do with gender segregation !
Because he knows better,even if he is not Muslim,he is living between them,and he knows the rules quite well!
For example,when he or anyone wanted to join the UNİ,he took a test to determine in which collage would he be accepted
So if he wanted to join medical school for example,and he didnt pass the test,will he be STİLL accepted ?
Nope
And never the less if he insisted and went to it and even attened all the clasess would he become a Doctor?
Of course NOT
Because he didnt pass the test
You want to go to UNİ,you must pass tests,you want to be a Doctor,you must be accepted !
That is the rule...take it or leave it
Same in İslam 'or any religion for what it matters !'
The rules here,if you want to pray,you must wash first 'abdest' and women wear scarves when praying
You want to pray,those are the rules,you dont do any of them and STİLL you prayed...fine...but praying is NOT acceptable !
You MUST have abdest before praying,and women MUST wear headscarves while praying or your prayer is NOT acceptable,simple
You pray in straight lines,not leaving spaces between each others, women pray in lines behinde men's lines STİLL has nothing to do with gender segregation,its even logical when we pray,we kneel,we sit,we stand,we bend...ect,so nope,thanks,i dont want men praying in lines behide me !
So dont tell me a man who is living in a Muslim society doesnt know all of that...!
The jews also segregate women and men at synagogue. I don't agree with this practice. If a mosque, synagogue is considered a place of worship for people to come TOGETHER and UNITE...doesn't this defeat the purpose .
İ need to feel comfortable while im praying,i need to feel the spiritual of the mosque,to concentrate on my prayer,...ect
İf you know our prayer,you would know While we pray we dont look even beside us,so i cant have this while im surrounded by strange men and praying together side by side,and in front of me and behinde me !
İ would be a bit alarmed
İ dont want to be alarmed while im praying !
We come to PRAY together yes,this way i cant pray!
Canli....it is just a very different custom for us. As a Catholic, men and women all sit together and pray. Normally, I don't look around and pay attention to who is around me because when I am in church, naturally I pray. But you have to understand how being segregated would feel to an American Catholic. It is against every fiber of our being....that isn't saying that it is wrong for you...but it feels very wrong for us.
Canli....it is just a very different custom for us. As a Catholic, men and women all sit together and pray. Normally, I don't look around and pay attention to who is around me because when I am in church, naturally I pray. But you have to understand how being segregated would feel to an American Catholic. It is against every fiber of our being....that isn't saying that it is wrong for you...but it feels very wrong for us.
Sure Elisabith its different for you,and it should too
You are Christians and we are Muslims,we have different prayers
İf we have same,we would have same religion too.
İf i was supposed to sit and pray at mosque as you do in church,i would not have a problem to sit beside men side by side
But as you said it is different
Ok,let me explain it a bit more,when we pray,specially at Cuma or Bayram salat,it be very crowded,you stand and your body touching the body of the woman beside you
also when you kneel
So,actually i wont be feeling comfortable touching man!
Your prayer is different than ours,so your demandings and rules of prayer are different than ours too
Canli,I understand our prayers our different, but it doesn't change the fact we are ALL humans. Men are NOT superior than women and in my religion we were ALL created equal.
I guess that's why I have a hard time with the whole seperation part. Our churches are also crowded, we kneel and rub elbows sometimes with who ever is sitting next to us. However, for some reason in church I don't think about the person next to me trying to sexual assault me or having motives. Were all there in one commonality, maybe for different reasons but that very hour were all singing the same songs, listening to the same readings and loving our neighbor.
I understand were from different cultures and religions, I just feel it's degrading to women that even if it's crowded in a mosque you have to stand behind the men in line. What makes them more important?
Ok,let me explain it a bit more,when we pray,specially at Cuma or Bayram salat,it be very crowded,you stand and your body touching the body of the woman beside you
also when you kneel
So,actually i wont be feeling comfortable touching man!
If you are praying, it is about your relationship with the One Unique Deity, you are trying to connect to him and pay him your tribute. You shouldn't even feel that someone, whether male or female, is touching you.
And the fact that you don't feel comfortable touching a male person during something pure like prayer, is a rather sexistic and unegalitarian sentiment: it either means you think of every contact between male and female as a possible sexual contact, or you think male and female are not equal thus physical contact is disturbing and should be avoided at any cost.
This also reminds me when I spent the night at a Turkish male friend of mine in Amsterdam. We went out for a drink and there was no train back to my city so I stayed over for the night. When I later told this to a Turkish female friend, she was highly in shock that I had the guts to spend the night with another male. I hadn't even for one single second thought about the fact that he was a male, because I see him as a close friend in the first p lace, and not someone of the opposite sex. There had never been any undecent thought in my head nor in his, we actually sat up for a tea till wee hours, and the next morning he kept knocking the door before entering the room where I slept. But the undecent thoughts are in the heads of the people who think such a thing is impossible.
I wouldn't midn to change my clothes or sleep in the same bed with a male friend that Im closely friends with. Because you both are aware of the fact that you don't see each other that way. This might be another extreme and I dont expect everyone to think by such standards, but in this thread whole other extremes are being told, which I find to be more extreme: they are out of a point of view that opposite sex can only have physical contact if it is in a sexual case or with bad intention. And then considering you are fully dressed in a mosque!
Oh and CANLI, Im not debating whether you should or should not put your scarf while praying and stand behind a man. Because it is not your choice. It is something you believe and simply have to follow. So it is not discussing about how it should or should not be done, it is about how correct the way it was described is. You are not to question Allah's rules, you are to follow them. And I understand how you want to defend what we say, because your faith is the core of your being. But as an outsider, I can question them and say why I think they are wrong. And I believe that actually every muslim or christian or whatever should think about the set of rules and beliefs they are given, to choose whether it is something you really believe in and therefore are willing to follow, or if it is something you feel is unacceptable and therefore decide that what you always believed in, is not good, and stop being a believer or believe in something else.
I don't think it's wrong to question your faith sometimes, in fact I think it's quite healthy. It either reaffirms your beliefs or makes you think of other possibilites. People debate with me all the time on confession. Even my fellow catholic classmates..you know who you are. And usually I take in what they have to say and still conclude what I believe to be what I feel is best for me But it still broadens my mind and forces me to think out of the box.
Believe me I'm still not thrilled with the Catholic church not allowing women to be priests..But just like everything else with the church things do change, heck were in modern times. There are such a shortage of priests that soon or later they will have no other options but to allow women. If things didn't change in my religion, I still would be going to mass everyday listening to it in Latin.
Canli,I understand our prayers our different, but it doesn't change the fact we are ALL humans. Men are NOT superior than women and in my religion we were ALL created equal.
Who said men are superior than women ?
Because they stand in the front lines ?!
You remind me of my Mom,back at school days,she always wanted me to sit at the front desks too
Maybe because teacher was at the front ?!
But i always hated it You know what ? God is every where,at the front and at the back too
We were,and are studying at same places with men,sit at same benches,work at same places
İ dont have a problem with that
İ dont have problem to rub elbows sometimes with who ever sitting beside me too
But i do mind Praying side by side with them,or infront of them
Quoting teaschip:
I understand were from different cultures and religions, I just feel it's degrading to women that even if it's crowded in a mosque you have to stand behind the men in line. What makes them more important?
DD was right i think...
Sure we are from diffrent cultures and different religions
İn my culture,its not even ACCEPTABLE to be in same place with strange man as in spending the night there,or change closes in front of him
And in my religion,it is HARAM to do so
İn your culture it is acceptable,and in your religion...mmm frankly i dont know...also i cant tell !
İs it acceptable ?!
So,i dont know how to explain to you then,that i do NOT accept to pray at same place side by side with men or in front of them
You wouldnt understand !:-S
DD was right i think...
Sure we are from diffrent cultures and different religions
İn my culture,its not even ACCEPTABLE to be in same place with strange man as in spending the night there,or change closes in front of him
And in my religion,it is HARAM to do so
İn your culture it is acceptable,and in your religion...mmm frankly i dont know...also i cant tell !
İs it acceptable ?!
So,i dont know how to explain to you then,that i do NOT accept to pray at same place side by side with men or in front of them
You wouldnt understand !:-S
DD is always right
Well, as I said, my example is a bit extreme here because I am sure there are many women in here who wouldnt do that either. Maybe it is also because I dont have a religion at all. Oh and just a note, it wasnt a strange man, it was a very close friend, like a brother of my boyfriend.
But apart from your religion, just asking as a social question. Why is it not acceptable to stay the night at a male friend? What makes a good male friend different from a good female friend?
Canli,I understand our prayers our different, but it doesn't change the fact we are ALL humans. Men are NOT superior than women and in my religion we were ALL created equal.
Who said men are superior than women ?
Because they stand in the front lines ?!
You remind me of my Mom,back at school days,she always wanted me to sit at the front desks too
Maybe because teacher was at the front ?!
But i always hated it You know what ? God is every where,at the front and at the back too
We were,and are studying at same places with men,sit at same benches,work at same places
İ dont have a problem with that
İ dont have problem to rub elbows sometimes with who ever sitting beside me too
But i do mind Praying side by side with them,or infront of them
Quoting teaschip:
I understand were from different cultures and religions, I just feel it's degrading to women that even if it's crowded in a mosque you have to stand behind the men in line. What makes them more important?
DD was right i think...
Sure we are from diffrent cultures and different religions
İn my culture,its not even ACCEPTABLE to be in same place with strange man as in spending the night there,or change closes in front of him
And in my religion,it is HARAM to do so
İn your culture it is acceptable,and in your religion...mmm frankly i dont know...also i cant tell !
İs it acceptable ?!
So,i dont know how to explain to you then,that i do NOT accept to pray at same place side by side with men or in front of them
You wouldnt understand !:-S
well,as i understood u are quarreling over religio ,its rules,etc....i hate taking part in religious discussions...religion as i said in my former Tc incarnation is a blinder,brainwasher..etc...but i respect all religions..and damn,I believe that God whatever its name is ....is happy when peope pray....no matter how,where,when...
If you are praying, it is about your relationship with the One Unique Deity, you are trying to connect to him and pay him your tribute. You shouldn't even feel that someone, whether male or female, is touching you.
Actually D_K,i dont think that when im entering the Mosques that im entering Heaven and everyone there is an angel
Men or women
And they are not
So actually i would feel if anyone is touching me whether male or female !
Quoting Deli_kizin:
And the fact that you don't feel comfortable touching a male person during something pure like prayer, is a rather sexistic and unegalitarian sentiment: it either means you think of every contact between male and female as a possible sexual contact,
As i said at my post to tea...it would be hard to explain
But i do not,and i believe im right to say most Muslims,do NOT feel comfortable being touched by strangers,and i dont allow it far to think about it as possible sexual contact
İt doesnt last that much
Quoting Deli_kizin:
or you think male and female are not equal thus physical contact is disturbing and should be avoided at any cost.
What this has to do with equality ?!!!
İt has to do with difference in genders
Like it or not,men are men and women are women
We are equal at rights and duties
STİLL we are different...we are women and they are men
You cant change that
And yes physical contact by strangers is disturbing to me,if its not to you,its your business.
well,as i understood u are quarreling over religio ,its rules,etc....i hate taking part in religious discussions...religion as i said in my former Tc incarnation is a blinder,brainwasher..etc...but i respect all religions..and damn,I believe that God whatever its name is ....is happy when peope pray....no matter how,where,when...
You are right about the blinder-brainwasher part, and nor can I say anything about someone blindly following the rules of faith, because that is what faith is: doing as you are told, because you believe in the righteousness of that what you believe in.
But as an outsider it is interesting to debate those to see different points of view. If I talk to CANLI, by no means I am asking her to become an unbeliever like me. I just try to explain how I see what she believes in (and thus why I dont want to believe it), to show what other ideas there are as well, and to hear how she has come to the conclusion that something is right If CANLI were to drink wine, it sure would be lovely to raise my glass with her!! But a tea will do too then
well,as i understood u are quarreling over religio ,its rules,etc....i hate taking part in religious discussions...religion as i said in my former Tc incarnation is a blinder,brainwasher..etc...but i respect all religions..and damn,I believe that God whatever its name is ....is happy when peope pray....no matter how,where,when...
No Avalon,the quarrel is not about religion rules now
Actually its about how can we 'Muslims women' feel not comfortbale having physical contact with strange men ?!
That means men's are superior,and women are .....ect
And that is just because we have that kind of culture which is......
You can fill in the spaces as you like !
But at same time,it was nothing wrong when a man said that Muslim's women pray in CAGES,that doesnt mean that he meant they are like animals even the only thing can be in cages are animals,because SURE he didnt meant it that way !
You know why ?!
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You also can fill in the spaces,or i can do it for you if you want !
Because they ARE MUSLİMS WOMEN!
But apart from your religion, just asking as a social question. Why is it not acceptable to stay the night at a male friend? What makes a good male friend different from a good female friend?
Dont you watch movies ?! Usually in many cases they end up together,so,if the male friends are good friends,same as female friends,by same feelings 'assuming those female are not lesbians of course !' so how come they can end up together ?!
I previously mentioned this on several occasions : We entered northern Iraq many times -I lost count to be honest-
They did not solve anything. did they?
Did it need to solve the problem? I think no need, we entered Iraq using our international rights and if the attacks continues, our rights also reserved. They came from Iraq, killed our people then you want Turkey to watch, we sure go and kill the terrorists.
Quoting thehandsom:
I am still amazed after zillions of incursions, people -generically speaking- still support these, while shaking with national pride!!
All we end up with deads..
This is very sad, annoying and quite pathetic.
Because people want to see them killed who first sneaky killed civilians, soldiers. Are u still amazed? Tell the terrorists, do not kill our people, do not damage the peace of country then maybe you wont.
Quoting thehandsom:
I don't think you have much knowledge about the deep state in Turkey. when you say 'SO-called deep-state', you show your 'impeccable' knowledge about it by trying to make them as a trivial matter.
The fact i called like that i thought they do not represent the folks of Turkey. Actually they are not deep, but no one can touch them or their puppets because of external protection. Mr.handsom do u think Turkey is free country? Turkey lost her freedom in 60s
Quoting thehandsom:
So what is deep-state exactly, in a nutshell?
As Demirel (ex PM and the ex president of Turkey) put it: 'Deep state is the Army'. btw..
Haha, Demirel did not use the words “deep state†with the same meaning of yours. He confessed something there; said “we have inability to govern the country because of anarchyâ€. And whats the source of anarchy? Army caused anarchy?. Surely not, at that period actually during the period of cold war, CIA organised many counter guerilla organisations as a strategy of NATO in country against the ideology of communism and lots people died because of this silly cold war games of two-poled world. But also army made lots of mistakes especially Evren. And MIT was used to control these groups by CIA. Mumcu realised that there was a relation between these counter guerilla groups, cia and pkk. Thats the betrayers i mean, then see what happened pkk firstly given under the control of Iran, after Syria and now found their real masters. See how crooked relations. PKK had never given a decision with self determination in its history always related to external sources. And Uğur Mumcu detected these betrayers who permeated in the state, could also be army members but saying deep state army is nonsense. As i said before the ones who did not accept the exacted south-east politics, immediately annihilated like Mumcu or general Eşref Bitlis.
Quoting thhandsom:
Ugur Mumcu was killed by the deep state..was he not?
Yes, but not the deep state u described.
Quoting thehandsom:
Well I disagree on that..
We have to live together..
Who says? And i talked about the Kurds who serves for the aims of imperialists and the ones who dream a Kurdistan on the lands of Turkey.
Quoting thehandsom:
But what I am sure that, most of the Turks are unaware of where the borders of those terms.
But you sure . You the only one aware of .
Quoting thehandsom:
If you think that what you have as nationalism in turkey is the nationalism Ataturk tried to implement, then you have no idea about the transformation of Turkish nationalism during second world war.
What you try to say?. Somebody erased the ideology of Atatürk nationalism during WW2, students still learn them in schools.
Quoting thehandsom:
What you have is the racist nationalism of Nihat Atsiz not nationalism of Ataturk!!
Even if we ignore Nihal Atsiz factor, we are talking about the time which was 100 years ago. It was the rise of nationalism etc.
Haha, and you follow the nationalism of Atatürk? You contradict yourself above. You are talking about here that Kurds were obsessed, imprisoned ,why you only needed to voice Kurds, or u forgot the mention Turks or other ethnicities who were obsessed, imprisoned during the same period. You are double-faced Mr.handsom, and I can call u Kurdish-racist.
Quoting the handsom:
Nationalism itself, as an ideolgy, classify people as 'us' and 'them' .
These completely wrong description. Whats the classification dependant? If race, then it is racism. All nations in the world call people “us†and “themâ€. They support their countries football team while playing against another country for example.
Quoting thehandsom:
That is part of the reason why it is easy to slide into racism from nationalism (same rule applies to religion as well).
This not includes Atatürk nationalism. And i guess u will again say i have no knowledge of transfromation of Turkish nationalism.
Quoting thehandsom:
The Kurdish problem is purely the result of this extremist nationalism for example. And it is so obvious, the extend of nationalism is undermining Ataturk's main objective of westernization for Turkey..
, You are again false, if u want to see the source of Kurdish problem, just read again my previous post, you will observe who are real problems and this atmosphere surely encourages extremists just like left-right fight before, now ethnicity is being used.
Quoting thehandsom:
As one of our professors(Baskin Oran) put it 'nationalism was the necessary to build a state 100 years ago but now you have to get rid of the nationalism in order to keep your state together'.
Again not includes Atatürk nationalism. Baskın Oran, sweety old-man, confusing all and himself also .
Oh and CANLI, Im not debating whether you should or should not put your scarf while praying and stand behind a man. Because it is not your choice. It is something you believe and simply have to follow. So it is not discussing about how it should or should not be done, it is about how correct the way it was described is. You are not to question Allah's rules, you are to follow them. And I understand how you want to defend what we say, because your faith is the core of your being. But as an outsider, I can question them and say why I think they are wrong. And I believe that actually every muslim or christian or whatever should think about the set of rules and beliefs they are given, to choose whether it is something you really believe in and therefore are willing to follow, or if it is something you feel is unacceptable and therefore decide that what you always believed in, is not good, and stop being a believer or believe in something else.
D_K,
İ did question my believes,and as tea found it is the suitable for her,i found mine suitable for me too
İ've put on my scarf when im out of my home,not just while praying
İ have put it out of convincing not juts obeying
İf it was a matter of obedience,then i should have put it years before i did,but i didnt!
Even it was an order,and i knew that too,but i didnt obey it then
When i felt i can do it,i did it!
So its not a matter of following orders blindly,or else,you would fed up and will stop following them !
As i said,there are mosques with places for women to pray similar to men's place but apart from it,and there are mosques which doesnt have it,and women can pray at lines behinde men's lines
İ pick first ones,as you know the majority is Egypt are Muslims,so we have many mosques,i can have my pick
İf i dont find one,i dont pray at mosque,i dont pray behinde men and i wait to pray at my house
İ take my pick too
So you see,i dont follow rules that i am not convinced by them specially in behaviors
Things like dont drink,dont eat Pork,dont...ect those i follow as rules
So bottom line is,i also questioned my religion,i've asked,i've read before i obey
And i am comfortable the way it is,and the way i am .
Did it need to solve the problem? I think no need, we entered Iraq using our international rights and if the attacks continues, our rights also reserved. They came from Iraq, killed our people then you want Turkey to watch, we sure go and kill the terrorists.
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Because people want to see them killed who first sneaky killed civilians, soldiers. Are u still amazed? Tell the terrorists, do not kill our people, do not damage the peace of country then maybe you wont.
Since you accept those incursions are not solving the problem, why on earth we keep entering northern iraq with the promises from army such as 'this is it..we will finish them this time' and then killing 200-300-500 and get our soldiers killed?
See, even you realize that it is not the solution!!
Then, why are we NOT pursuing REAL solutions then?
Dont you see this? It has been 30 years!! What we have been doing is not producing any solution! we going there, killing some young people, they come back, killing our soldiers.. 30 years..Easy to say but whole 30 years...same thing. again and again. But sides' deads are young people belong to Turkey.
This is madness!!
I told before and I will repeat again:
We (Turks and Kurds) have to live together. It is the real objective!!
Now tell me! did 'going into northern iraq' (more than 25 times) bring us closer to that objective or not?
Quoting armegon:
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Haha, Demirel did not use the words “deep state†with the same meaning of yours. He confessed something there; said “we have inability to govern the country because of anarchyâ€. And whats the source of anarchy? Army caused anarchy?. Surely not, at that period actually during the period of cold war, CIA organised many counter guerilla organisations as a strategy of NATO in country against the ideology of communism and lots people died because of this silly cold war games of two-poled world. But also army made lots of mistakes especially Evren. And MIT was used to control these groups by CIA.
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Yes, but not the deep state u described.
I really recommend you to read the books about "the deep state". There are not very many deep states(or deep state descriptions) in Turkey!!
Demirel, Ecevit (he never said publicly such as 'Deep state is the Army' but many insinuations) and many politicians publicly explained what deep state is.
What is it excatly you are trying to say?
There is a group called counter-guerilla/gladio/mit etc. But this group always worked for the army with the knowledge of army!!
Why do you think many times some genarals are coming up and saying 'I know him, he is a nationalist' for the people taken to courts?
Quoting armegon:
Quoting thehandsom:
Well I disagree on that..
We have to live together..
Who says?
we have to learn to live together peacefully..what are you going to to do with 15 million kurds then?
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Quoting armegon:
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Haha, and you follow the nationalism of Atatürk? You contradict yourself above. You are talking about here that Kurds were obsessed, imprisoned ,why you only needed to voice Kurds, or u forgot the mention Turks or other ethnicities who were obsessed, imprisoned during the same period. You are double-faced Mr.handsom, and I can call u Kurdish-racist.
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This not includes Atatürk nationalism. And i guess u will again say i have no knowledge of transfromation of Turkish nationalism.
I dont think I can be kurdish-racist since I am not kurdish. And I will be glad if you show me inconsistencies in my posts and where did I say I follow the nationalism of Ataturk?
Look, nationalism always requires enemies. it requires 'them'..There is always us and them in matches etc but many other citizens of other countries see 'them' as enemies as we (Turks) do. a tiny example here: the mother of the boy who knifed british hooligans to death, was saying on the telly, 'she was very proud of what her son did'. That type of behaviour can only be explained years and years of 'shovenistic brain washing'. She was just proud his son killed some of 'them' when he found the opportunity and he showed how nationalist he was and how much he loved his country.
Well nationalism is nationalism even if you add Ataturk infront of it. I cant understand really, when it comes to other ideas of ataturk we are easy to forget them but when it comes to nationalism it is that hard. An example of them is 'state control'-devletcilik and we easily forgot it because it was not suitable with the free economic model. Ataturk's ideas are not god given. He himself was a revolutionist.
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Quoting armegon:
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You are again false, if u want to see the source of Kurdish problem, just read again my previous post, you will observe who are real problems and this atmosphere surely encourages extremists just like left-right fight before, now ethnicity is being used.
Kurdish problem is in our borders..Do not look for the reasons outside..
Reading 'sark islahat plani' thread might be a good start to understand what the real problem is.
We are not fighting with 15 million kurds, our figth is with 7 thousand terrorist...
When i was kid, i use to buy pirate tape casette of Ahmet Kaya and always buying one kurdish casette with it, like Şivan Perwer, Şirvan, Koma somethin ( koma mean group and lots of Koma over there ) But i am not kurdish neigther know kuurdish language, i am from blacksea area and grown in istanbul... i just liked music, how did i hear it ?Because all pirate tape sellers were playing it very outlout...so now, in 1990, in this coutry peaople could speak Kurdish, could sing kurdish, could make casette in kurdish, presidend of country say about himself he is kurd ( Turgut Özal)...PKK use to say, they are fighting for kurdish rights...but in the east, they are like mafia, they come your village, they ask your help, if you deny they accuse you for being government spy and kill you...this is how they protect kurdish rights( what ever they are)...they are holding gun and drug markett in the middle east...and that is not government accusation..you can ask any turkish socialist group, and they ll tell you proudly...
commanders like seigneur there and they can kill any member of their unit by the accusation of helping government...pkk says they have land in 4 country, in ıraq,iran,syria and turkey mut most important part is in turkey. one day i asked one kurdish guy whom support pkk if today you had kurdistan, would you go there...he had a samll markett in istanbul, and said no am i stupid ? i ll not tell you rest of converstation...but kurdish rights or independence is a big lie...
so a wolf would fight with a cat ? no..any time he can torn cat in pieces..but if he consider playing little bit, even at the risk of getting some scar, that mean he has a reason...so dont dispise your country or army, if fight took 30 year, reason is "it must be that way"...
again, here i see big lover forum lets check how many of ladies here are in love with turks and how many with kurds...lots of kurdish people try to run out of country, whatever it takes, cheating, breaking heart does not metter. left your wife and kids ( if you find a kurdish man whom grown in his own city, older then 28 and saying you he is single, never get married, eighter he is marginal or liar )and first thing they do when they are out of country, accuse turkey in first converstation..ok, what they give the country beside 8 kids ? %80 of the stealing electricity is using at the east cities, otopark mafia, land mafia, pick pocket organizations are managed by kurds...and some percent of money goes to pkk...if we fight with 15 million kurds we have a reason for that, but we dont...we only fight with bad, as a good ( some time good people for protecting good, does some bad things and that is dilemma of life)
Just love your coutry, because it is what you ll have at the end. to love country is not decorate yourself or environment with tree crasen moon or wolf symbols...or even flags..work for good of your country...i love american system...until they elected, they poke each others eye...but after election, till next campaign they both are ( democrats and republicans) work together for the good of country...this is the patroitism...every nation must have...if kurds see themself as diffrent nation which can not live together with turks, they have a coutry right now, they are free to go...but if they try to step two difrent land in sape time, their legs could be broken...and that is not our mistake but their..
Ok give me your bank account..but if there is a problem for sending money, i dont want to disturb you so give also your social security number...hey by the way what was the maiden name of your mother i get curious suddenly, and i would like to call you can you give me your home, cell and work phone, also i like to write letter what was your addres, with zip code please..did i asked you your e-mail, i like to send you some picture, hey i use my birthday as a password do you do same or what ? oh, i almost forget what was your birthday, day,month and year please...and also if you can send me a picture with your signature i ll be glad, you look like movie star
and then people say there is lots of identity stealing on the internet, where ? i newer seen one
Ok give me your bank account..but if there is a problem for sending money, i dont want to disturb you so give also your social security number...hey by the way what was the maiden name of your mother i get curious suddenly, and i would like to call you can you give me your home, cell and work phone, also i like to write letter what was your addres, with zip code please..did i asked you your e-mail, i like to send you some picture, hey i use my birthday as a password do you do same or what ? oh, i almost forget what was your birthday, day,month and year please...and also if you can send me a picture with your signature i ll be glad, you look like movie star
and then people say there is lots of identity stealing on the internet, where ? i newer seen one
More like Nigerian Spammers You won some billion dollar from lotary or my pastor husband dead and left us some plenty zero bank account i like to transfer you if a pastor ever seen in his life more than a million dolar ( surely if he is not scientologist pastor )
More like Nigerian Spammers You won some billion dollar from lotary or my pastor husband dead and left us some plenty zero bank account i like to transfer you if a pastor ever seen in his life more than a million dolar ( surely if he is not scientologist pastor )
I think the spammers and dudu's learned from each other. The only thing missing from your message to be a full-fledged dudu was the urgent need for surgery for yourself or your mother.
actuallythat was right, i need some brain transplant, i think mine is shirinked
Oh well why didn't you say so!?!?! I will send money immediately. Please send me your bank account number, your mother's maiden name, your first pets name, your street address, date of birth, favorite color and all of your passwords!!
oopss...what i did :S now i gave my secret and lost all my working oprtunity..it is all because i trusted you, i opened my heart adn deepest secrets to you...now ll you left me, ll you abandon me ? or ll you put me on salary like a kind lady
oopss...what i did :S now i gave my secret and lost all my working oprtunity..it is all because i trusted you, i opened my heart adn deepest secrets to you...now ll you left me, ll you abandon me ? or ll you put me on salary like a kind lady
Well......you could revise your post where you gave out your secrets. But then there is that small problem that I quoted it......hhhmmmm....what to do???
I guess for a negotiable fee, I might be able to alter my post as well.
As for the question whether people of opposite sex are allowed to stay together, if I remember correctly from religion classes in secondary school, yes they are. They may even live together as long as they don't have sex...
Dont you watch movies ?! Usually in many cases they end up together,so,if the male friends are good friends,same as female friends,by same feelings 'assuming those female are not lesbians of course !' so how come they can end up together ?!
They are MOVİES! When they have sex in movies, they also just immediately fall asleep after that, not considering the fact that there must be some funky spunk all over the place. But apparantly they fall alseep peacefully! Movies dont display the truth
But at same time,it was nothing wrong when a man said that Muslim's women pray in CAGES,that doesnt mean that he meant they are like animals even the only thing can be in cages are animals,because SURE he didnt meant it that way !
You totally misunderstand this CANLI. If someone compares the PLACE where THEY (who ever thought of putting iron bars and curtains for the womens department) MAKE women pray (not the place the writer of that post asks women to pray) to a cage, it means that the one who ever thought of making such a place for women, thinks of them as animals, not the writer of that post.
Btw, do you happen to have heard of Nasr Abu Zayd? He is a Muslim scholar who gave a lecture at my university. He spoke about women in the Quran and later I got the chance to exchange a few words with him, was really interesting. I remember he is from Egypt, that's why Im asking
Dont you watch movies ?! Usually in many cases they end up together,so,if the male friends are good friends,same as female friends,by same feelings 'assuming those female are not lesbians of course !' so how come they can end up together ?!
They are MOVİES! When they have sex in movies, they also just immediately fall asleep after that, not considering the fact that there must be some funky spunk all over the place. But apparantly they fall alseep peacefully! Movies dont display the truth
You totally misunderstand this CANLI. If someone compares the PLACE where THEY (who ever thought of putting iron bars and curtains for the womens department) MAKE women pray (not the place the writer of that post asks women to pray) to a cage, it means that the one who ever thought of making such a place for women, thinks of them as animals, not the writer of that post.
You said you have been in Türkiye for 1 year and i believe you have visited it before and went to many mosques
Have you seen such place ?!
İ havent been to Türkiye and im SURE there is no place in mosques with iron bars arround it inside mosque and curtains women pray in
So NO,if there is no such a place and the writer of the post used this word then its HİS own thoughts not anyone one else !
İ assume this man is Muslim,or have been following Muslim womens and even got into their minds to reach those conclusions ?!
İ do NOT believe it !
So,now we dont know what we are living through because we got used to it like a victim got used to a kidnapper ?!
And i assume we should wait also for the West to put us of our misery,help us to get through this by reforming our religion or maybe convert it ?!!!!
Look,we are different,and we will be different too
We have different culture and different traditions,Yes we dont much appreciate contacts between male and females unless they are related
And we like it this way
You are not like us,fine,we are different.
We also dont appreciate many of your behaviours in West,and we think its wrong,and we think it brought many troubles to you
Social troubles
Only Western members are more here so you dont feel it
And btw,im not talking about Muslims here,im talking about both Muslims and Christians
Here we are same,with same believes and same traditions
Here in the past,Christian women used to wear viel over their heads,because its ayip to show their hairs
And in village,women still same,Muslims or Christians no differences
And men do NOT force them too,many of our women have their own minds
İ say many,because there are some who are controlled by men also
So its women's choices and women's believes...
Yeah,women making their own bars and we are blind enough not to see it and we are waiting for the West to help us !
Here in the past,Christian women used to wear viel over their heads,because its ayip to show their hairs
And in village,women still same,Muslims or Christians no differences
And men do NOT force them too,many of our women have their own minds
İ say many,because there are some who are controlled by men also
Canli, it is almost perfect what you are saying above.
Could you tell me what will happen to your marriage if you suddenly decide to show your hair and wear a mini skirt?
I know it is a hypothetical question.
But I will appreciate if you answer.
All I have to say here is given the amount spent on products to enhance ones attractiveness and desirability, the proliferation of male enhancement products, there seems to be a real problem between the sexes in Western society.
Maybe the ho hum situation IS something to think about? DId you ever hear the song. Why on earth are there so many Western women PAYING for male attention in Turkey if everything is going so well in your own countries?
Canli, it is almost perfect what you are saying above.
handsome,what is perfect in what im saying above ?!
Muslims women and Christians women ARE wearing vields in villages
Quoting thehandsom:
Could you tell me what will happen to your marriage if you suddenly decide to show your hair and wear a mini skirt?
I know it is a hypothetical question.
But I will appreciate if you answer.
Well,let's not say mini skirt because it would be wild imagination to take off hijab and wear mini skirt unless im forced on hijab,so its way too far,but let's say if i take of hijab not that i will ever consider it of course
But if i did,while im married i think he may not like it and try talk to me through it,but in the end,he will have to accept it!
You see,in marriage usually people who are close in their ways of thinking they got married
So in my case,i wouldnt pick someone who is conservative to marry,or someone who is extreme too
İn other cases,like such it would cause problem
And in another cases too,men would ask their wives to take it off too
So it depends on individuals
My parents were against my hijab
And my father was against my mother hijab way before me,but still she put it on
So,as you see its defferent from man and woman to another.
All I have to say here is given the amount spent on products to enhance ones attractiveness and desirability, the proliferation of male enhancement products, there seems to be a real problem between the sexes in Western society.
Maybe the ho hum situation IS something to think about? DId you ever hear the song. Why on earth are there so many Western women PAYING for male attention in Turkey if everything is going so well in your own countries?
Attack as a form of defense, old, played out trick. This video is about gender separation and presumably it causing backwardness. We can of course have another video about the abhorrent beauty practices in the West. If you want to hear more about it, I recommend this link: Beauty and Mysogyny in the West.
Sorry, the link didn't work....and the other one was very boring. Anyway, I thought it was about gender relations. Key words here 'presumably it causing backwardness.'
' Birth rates in European countries recently have reached a historic low, with the largest and most recent fall occurring in Eastern Europe. '
In fact it's so bad in Europe that incentives have to be implemented....
Sorry, the link didn't work....and the other one was very boring. Anyway, I thought it was about gender relations.
Which link didn't work? The last one I gave about beauty and misogyny? If so, then go to ffiles.net -> "shows" tab -> archives -> scroll down to "Beauty and Misogyny" by Sheila Jeffreys.
Since you accept those incursions are not solving the problem, why on earth we keep entering northern iraq with the promises from army such as 'this is it..we will finish them this time' and then killing 200-300-500 and get our soldiers killed?
What should we do since politicians are not able to produce some politics for south-east because of known reasons? Everybody knows PKK is feding up from drug smuggling and supported by the Kurds in Iraq. When terrorists kill your citizens, you should also kill them thats what the people wants, simple i think.
Quoting thehandsom:
See, even you realize that it is not the solution!!
Then, why are we NOT pursuing REAL solutions then?
Mr.thehandsom i think i expalined this you dont read carefully.
Quoting thehandsom:
we going there, killing some young people, they come back, killing our soldiers
This shows ur sincerety, you cannot even call terrorists as terrorists. You can go by with that young people Mr.thehandsom, read Baskın Oran more maybe he will give some powerpoint lessons to you also .
Quoting thehandsom:
We (Turks and Kurds) have to live together. It is the real objective!!
Now tell me! did 'going into northern iraq' (more than 25 times) bring us closer to that objective or not?
Yes it is real objective but do not forget the citizens of Turkish Republic want to live with the ones who want to live with them. As mentioned before you cannot finish them since all the supports of terrorists be cut. Kurds who are toys of imperialists just like in 20s, simply cannot live with the Turks.
Quoting thehandsom:
There are not very many deep states(or deep state descriptions) in Turkey!! Demirel, Ecevit (he never said publicly such as 'Deep state is the Army' but many insinuations) and many politicians publicly explained what deep state is.
Did i say something like there are many deep states? I said there are many counter guerilla groups which organized by CIA and each had different aim. Ecevit also mentioned the counter gurellia groups and their CIA connection.
Quoting thehandsom:
But this group always worked for the army with the knowledge of army!!
Ja sure, Army gave Turkish Army uniforms to terrorists who killed the civilians, later proved they were made in Armenia. Thats nonsense, you mean anarchy is caused by army which is the founder of this Republic.
Quoting thehandsom:
Why do you think many times some genarals are coming up and saying 'I know him, he is a nationalist' for the people taken to courts?
Actually he said that he is good sergeant not nationalist, do not bastardize thehandsom. What you want him to say he worked with him for years even if he called to give statement in court, he would say the same thing. Also it is cleared that bombing was performed by terrorists and the aim of the bombing is to weaken the army by accusing Genderme Headquarters of Turkish army.
Quoting thehandsom:
I dont think I can be kurdish-racist since I am not kurdish. And I will be glad if you show me inconsistencies in my posts
Thats not important if you are Kurdish or not, i said this because of your writings here, and it still holds Mr.thehandsom. All your posts in this forum is one-sided, i also doubt when you say something good about Turkey because in my point of view you have been never sincere. When an ordinary Turk, read your posts here, be sure that they will say the same thing to you, your agenda is clear as day. I think it is enough.
Quoting thehandsom:
Look, nationalism always requires enemies. it requires 'them'..There is always us and them in matches etc but many other citizens of other countries see 'them' as enemies as we (Turks) do.
Another bad description of nationalism by thehandsom.
Quoting thehandsom:
a tiny example here: the mother of the boy who knifed british hooligans to death, was saying on the telly, 'she was very proud of what her son did'. That type of behaviour can only be explained years and years of 'shovenistic brain washing'. She was just proud his son killed some of 'them' when he found the opportunity and he showed how nationalist he was and how much he loved his country.
, good example of ultraslan fanatics and you reached the conclusion “shovenistic brainwashing†because of his mother said, maybe she grown up with the tales of Nihal Atsız .
Quoting thehandsom:
I cant understand really, when it comes to other ideas of ataturk we are easy to forget them but when it comes to nationalism it is that hard. An example of them is 'state control'-devletcilik and we easily forgot it because it was not suitable with the free economic model. Ataturk's ideas are not god given. He himself was a revolutionist.
, Unfortunately, we lost “state-control†when Ataturk died Mr.thehandsom. And since then we do not product anything in Turkey. Actually the main aim of “state control†is to encourage productivity of the nation and do the actions for benefits of folk and the state. It also encourages private sector under the control of state. So saying it is not suitable for free-economic model is simply absurd. What happened we suddenly entered the free-econonomic model, it only accelerated the colonisation Turkey by imperialists, now we are not economically independent with billions of debts, thanks to Özal & Çiller. Just look at Cuba, dony they do trading in the world? . Simply say i hate Ataturk instead of saying “Ataturk ideas are not god givenâ€, as far as i remember noone mentioned him as a god. Btw such a nice usage of word god from an atheist.
Quoting thehandsom:
Kurdish problem is in our borders..Do not look for the reasons outside..
Reading 'sark islahat plani' thread might be a good start to understand what the real problem is.
, Reading “Seyh Said Rebellion†maybe a good start for you i think, do not come to “Şark Islahat Planı†before the “Seyh Sait Rebellionâ€, and then maybe you can understand if it is in our borders or not, Mr.thehandsom .
Quoting thehandsom:
we have to learn to live together peacefully..what are you going to to do with 15 million kurds then?
Read avaloncravens post and see what we are going to do with 15 million Kurds. Btw good post avaloncraven, you deserve more than two pennies .
All I have to say here is given the amount spent on products to enhance ones attractiveness and desirability, the proliferation of male enhancement products, there seems to be a real problem between the sexes in Western society.
I don't think so, at least I haven't noticed any of my friends being enslaved by the urge to enhance ourselves. Sure people (and thus women as well) like to look good but only few are extreme in that. Besides, take into consideration the fact that we show all our face (and legs and cleavage and arms) so we try to keep it aesthetic. Muslim women who show just the eyes use no make-up, right? Sorry hun, no matter how much you show, you always want to 'enhance' your looks.
At least the west didn't go for the hymen reconstruction plastic surgeries that are a real liberation of Muslim women. Yesterday I watched a TV program about them. Imagine, even in Poland, a country with a really low number of Muslims, there's a huge demand of hymen reconstruction surgeries. Why? Because many German or Dutch Muslims come to have it done. Now that's what I call extreme make-over
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Why on earth are there so many Western women PAYING for male attention in Turkey if everything is going so well in your own countries?
Why the hell do Turkish boys sell themselves? The answer is simple - it is alışverış. I see no difference between a guy paying for a woman's drinks in the bar in Ibiza and a woman buying a guy a watch in Turkey. Those who pay want sex, those paid provide it. Kind of like prostitution but veiled.
Then, there are of course those who fall in love, but that's quite a low percentage. Then it's usually about young Turks desperately looking for chance to runaway from their homeland. Quite surprising really, as Turkey is such a great country and west is nothing to look up to...
' Birth rates in European countries recently have reached a historic low, with the largest and most recent fall occurring in Eastern Europe. '
Yes, unfortunately they did..all because of this ridiculous idea that women should be free to choose a career instead of motherhood. Too bad the weak western men cannot force them into having 6 children! I say - don't let women into universities. Cynicmistic's idea was not bad - compulsory army service for men, compulsory breeding for women. The corrupt west could learn something from extended Muslim families!
Long live compulsory procreation
What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?
What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?
I think your free choice should be to patriotically raise more of your own kind! Russians, Turks... etc. Doesn't matter that 90% of the 6 billion polluting the Earth doesn't have enough food to eat, the real world problem is that we don't have enough Turks/Russians/etc...!!!
Yes, unfortunately they did..all because of this ridiculous idea that women should be free to choose a career instead of motherhood. Too bad the weak western men cannot force them into having 6 children! I say - don't let women into universities. Cynicmistic's idea was not bad - compulsory army service for men, compulsory
breeding for women. The corrupt west could learn something from extended Muslim families!
Long live compulsory procreation
What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?
I do think it's odd that the instinct to reproduce (said by many to be the strongest instinct in all creatures) is in decline in humans, particularly in the places mentioned.
In all things there is an inner and an outer. There are things that have a price and those that are priceless.
I don't see anything wrong with being a mother or home maker. In fact what is more valuable in the long run? A career that is really just a way to earn a few pieces of silver so you can afford a better home? but you give up making a home to get it?
I find it interesting that women who present themselves as feminists seem to have such little respect for motherhood and what women have been doing for thousands of years. Have you ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"?
Is it better to have prepared food from exploited hands in the factory, with who knows what ingredients in it, or food prepared with care to sustain and nourish one's loved ones?
Is it better to send children off to be taken care of those who's motivation is to earn money? I've seen those blank eyed children being pushed around by their sad eyed nannies (whose own children are not being cared for because they have to make a living), while their mothers pursue their "careers"....and I must say it's tragic sight.
Career? What career? 90% of the time you are talking about wage earning employment. You know, making a better widget.. Most women are fitting themselves into a male model, instead of really looking at themselves and making their own model. Many young women now are taking another look at how they manage their careers and being mothers and homemakers and working on redesigning it. My own grandmother had her own business that did quite well. She designed it so she could stay home to be there for her family.
Yes, unfortunately they did..all because of this ridiculous idea that women should be free to choose a career instead of motherhood. Too bad the weak western men cannot force them into having 6 children! I say - don't let women into universities. Cynicmistic's idea was not bad - compulsory army service for men, compulsory
breeding for women. The corrupt west could learn something from extended Muslim families!
Long live compulsory procreation
What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?
I do think it's odd that the instinct to reproduce (said by many to be the strongest instinct in all creatures) is in decline in humans, particularly in the places mentioned.
In all things there is an inner and an outer. There are things that have a price and those that are priceless.
I don't see anything wrong with being a mother or home maker. In fact what is more valuable in the long run? A career that is really just a way to earn a few pieces of silver so you can afford a better home? but you give up making a home to get it?
I find it interesting that women who present themselves as feminists seem to have such little respect for motherhood and what women have been doing for thousands of years. Have you ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"?
Is it better to have prepared food from exploited hands in the factory, with who knows what ingredients in it, or food prepared with care to sustain and nourish one's loved ones?
Is it better to send children off to be taken care of those who's motivation is to earn money? I've seen those blank eyed children being pushed around by their sad eyed nannies (whose own children are not being cared for because they have to make a living), while their mothers pursue their "careers"....and I must say it's tragic sight.
Career? What career? 90% of the time you are talking about wage earning employment. You know, making a better widget.. Most women are fitting themselves into a male model, instead of really looking at themselves and making their own model. Many young women now are taking another look at how they manage their careers and being mothers and homemakers and working on redesigning it. My own grandmother had her own business that did quite well. She designed it so she could stay home to be there for her family.
Now I expect to be flammed....how dare I?
Not from me, I agree with you 100%! I am a little "old fashioned" when it comes to children and motherhood and juggling careers etc. My opinion is you can only do one well! And one has an effect on the other. Problems at work cause problems at home and vice versa.
I believe that lack of values in family life and family breakdowns has had detrimental effects on our social structure. But that does not mean to say that every woman has to have 2.4 chilren. Some people would be better if they never had children. Especialy those who treat their children like an accessory :-S
Not from me, I agree with you 100%! I am a little "old fashioned" when it comes to children and motherhood and juggling careers etc. My opinion is you can only do one well! And one has an effect on the other. Problems at work cause problems at home and vice versa.
I believe that lack of values in family life and family breakdowns has had detrimental effects on our social structure. But that does not mean to say that every woman has to have 2.4 chilren. Some people would be better if they never had children. Especialy those who treat their children like an accessory :-S
Hasn't it been said that the family is the heart of civilization?
Yes, unfortunately they did..all because of this ridiculous idea that women should be free to choose a career instead of motherhood. Too bad the weak western men cannot force them into having 6 children! I say - don't let women into universities. Cynicmistic's idea was not bad - compulsory army service for men, compulsory
breeding for women. The corrupt west could learn something from extended Muslim families!
Long live compulsory procreation
What's freedom of choice if your country's natural growth index is in danger?
I do think it's odd that the instinct to reproduce (said by many to be the strongest instinct in all creatures) is in decline in humans, particularly in the places mentioned.
In all things there is an inner and an outer. There are things that have a price and those that are priceless.
I don't see anything wrong with being a mother or home maker. In fact what is more valuable in the long run? A career that is really just a way to earn a few pieces of silver so you can afford a better home? but you give up making a home to get it?
I find it interesting that women who present themselves as feminists seem to have such little respect for motherhood and what women have been doing for thousands of years. Have you ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"?
Is it better to have prepared food from exploited hands in the factory, with who knows what ingredients in it, or food prepared with care to sustain and nourish one's loved ones?
Is it better to send children off to be taken care of those who's motivation is to earn money? I've seen those blank eyed children being pushed around by their sad eyed nannies (whose own children are not being cared for because they have to make a living), while their mothers pursue their "careers"....and I must say it's tragic sight.
Career? What career? 90% of the time you are talking about wage earning employment. You know, making a better widget.. Most women are fitting themselves into a male model, instead of really looking at themselves and making their own model. Many young women now are taking another look at how they manage their careers and being mothers and homemakers and working on redesigning it. My own grandmother had her own business that did quite well. She designed it so she could stay home to be there for her family.
Now I expect to be flammed....how dare I?
Not from me, I agree with you 100%! I am a little "old fashioned" when it comes to children and motherhood and juggling careers etc. My opinion is you can only do one well! And one has an effect on the other. Problems at work cause problems at home and vice versa.
I believe that lack of values in family life and family breakdowns has had detrimental effects on our social structure. But that does not mean to say that every woman has to have 2.4 chilren. Some people would be better if they never had children. Especialy those who treat their children like an accessory :-S
I do think it's odd that the instinct to reproduce (said by many to be the strongest instinct in all creatures) is in decline in humans, particularly in the places mentioned.
In all things there is an inner and an outer. There are things that have a price and those that are priceless.
I don't see anything wrong with being a mother or home maker. In fact what is more valuable in the long run? A career that is really just a way to earn a few pieces of silver so you can afford a better home? but you give up making a home to get it?
I find it interesting that women who present themselves as feminists seem to have such little respect for motherhood and what women have been doing for thousands of years. Have you ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"?
Is it better to have prepared food from exploited hands in the factory, with who knows what ingredients in it, or food prepared with care to sustain and nourish one's loved ones?
Is it better to send children off to be taken care of those who's motivation is to earn money? I've seen those blank eyed children being pushed around by their sad eyed nannies (whose own children are not being cared for because they have to make a living), while their mothers pursue their "careers"....and I must say it's tragic sight.
Career? What career? 90% of the time you are talking about wage earning employment. You know, making a better widget.. Most women are fitting themselves into a male model, instead of really looking at themselves and making their own model. Many young women now are taking another look at how they manage their careers and being mothers and homemakers and working on redesigning it. My own grandmother had her own business that did quite well. She designed it so she could stay home to be there for her family.
Now I expect to be flammed....how dare I?
I think it is you, alameda, who disrespect working women/working mothers. It is a much more complicated issue then you present it to be (and feminists don't disrespect stay-at-home moms, they just say that women should always try to be independent of their husbands/boyfriends... etc, to be self-sustainable and not dependent on others, for what they do need their own source of income). It is great to be a full time mom, it is equally great to be a working mom, and it would be really great if men would share the burden of child rearing, maybe then women wouldn't have to give up their personal goals completely - don't you think that's actually how it should be? Why does the entire burden of raising children always fall on the shoulders of women? I expect that you will start going on now about 'nature', 'biology'... etc. Please don't, I find this simplistic biologic determinism of yours rather unsophisticated and uninsightful. Some women don't have the luxury of staying at home with kids, maybe you could respect them a little bit as well, what do you think?
Every human being has his/her own dreams and they deserve to follow them. If for a couple that dream involves having children, then as a couple you plan it and help each other for this dream to happen.
Aside from the fact that women should have a choice (and alameda I don’t know where you get the idea that feminist disrespect stay-at-home moms ) there is a major issue here that had not been mentioned.
Many working women have no choice these days. Dual incomes are essential to many families if they want to feed and clothe their children and have a roof over their heads. It is not simply a matter of wanting “pieces of silver“. That statement is completely disrespectful to those women who do not have the luxury of staying home.
Aside from the fact that women should have a choice (and alameda I don’t know where you get the idea that feminist disrespect stay-at-home moms )
Alameda knows - she observes the rotten American society and comments! GG adit it - how many children did you breed? If less than 3 then you're worth nothing. And don't start complaining about not being able to afford them! Marry any guy that has an income and breed!
I'm sure Alameda has at least 6 children and thus works fine populating the Earth.
Yet, my enlightened ideas make me believe that having a choice is an important thing. Although I am currently pregnant, I see nothing wrong about those women who decide not to have children. Still, I deeply respect those who decide to stay at home and bring them up. It's not about what they choose - being a working mother, staying at home or not having children - but about having a choice.
Alameda knows - she observes the rotten American society and comments!
Oh dear! I forgot that alameda is the authority on everything she speaks about! How could I be so stupid as to question anything that comes from her fingertips?!?!?
It is great to be a full time mom, it is equally great to be a working mom, and it would be really great if men would share the burden of child rearing, maybe then women wouldn't have to give up their personal goals completely - don't you think that's actually how it should be? Why does the entire burden of raising children always fall on the shoulders of women?
My daughter-in-law has just gone back to work on slightly reduced hours now the baby is seven months' old - partly from desire, partly from necessity. She is a good mum and my son is a very good dad - he does as much, if not more, than my daughter-in-law. When they visited us recently he was feeding the baby in a restaurant and the Turkish lads were laughing at him saying 'Are you a woman?' They couldn't believe it when I said he also changes nappies, baths the baby and does a great deal of the cooking. I'm not sure he's much help with the cleaning - but then he was always a very untidy child!!
I was a stay-at-home mum - that was what I chose to do and luckily it wasn't essential for me to be earning too. I liked being able to spend a lot of time with my boys (I have 3 so that makes me 'worthy' DD ) and I think they benefited from it. My husband didn't help in the same way my son does but then I accepted at that time that my job was looking after the kids and the house and his was earning the money. Our way worked for us all those years ago and my son's way works for them now.
Alameda knows - she observes the rotten American society and comments!
Oh dear! I forgot that alameda is the authority on everything she speaks about! How could I be so stupid as to question anything that comes from her fingertips?!?!?
Ok so you don't agree with Alameda, but no need to be so venimous with your response.
I think it is you, alameda, who disrespect working women/working mothers. It is a much more complicated issue then you present it to be (and feminists don't disrespect stay-at-home moms, they just say that women should always try to be independent of their husbands/boyfriends... etc, to be self-sustainable and not dependent on others, for what they do need their own source of income).
In no way am I disrespecting women, I am asking both men and women to reevaluate their situation. Life involves alliances. A marriage is not an independent venture, it is an alliance involving people (hopefully) sharing their life and assets. Whatever assets and responsibilities exist should be shared.
Unfortunately in the past, in many parts of the world, all income was distributed solely at the man's discretion. Women had to ask for money to run the home. She literally could be kept barefoot and pregnant. If she was divorced, she had to fight for her share of the assets. If the various functions a traditional wife took care of were salaried positions, very few could afford it. It is complicated, why not look for a solution?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_property
Quoting catwoman:
It is great to be a full time mom, it is equally great to be a working mom, and it would be really great if men would share the burden of child rearing, maybe then women wouldn't have to give up their personal goals completely - don't you think that's actually how it should be?
Quoting catwoman:
Why does the entire burden of raising children always fall on the shoulders of women?
Where do you get the idea I in any way put the entire burden of raising children on women? What I'm talking about, in essence, is labor management. Too many people trying to screw in a one light bulb is not efficient.
Quoting catwoman:
I expect that you will start going on now about 'nature', 'biology'... etc. Please don't, I find this simplistic biologic determinism of yours rather unsophisticated and uninsightful.
Ummm...we should not look at biology? Let's just forget about the fact that men don't have functional mammary glands? Of course, we can always use bottles and formulas ...Oh...we do already...! Have as many children as you want or don't want...but I'm asking why do so many not want to have children? Is that not a reasonable question?
Quoting catwoman:
Some women don't have the luxury of staying at home with kids, maybe you could respect them a little bit as well, what do you think?
How on earth you get the idea I don't respect women who have to work is beyond me. I certainly do, and I also pity them. I am talking about an ideal.
The reality of the situation is you would be hard pressed to find many traditional 'wives' anywhere these days. They are a dying species, and I mean that quite literally. It's mostly men who love having working wives. They want 'career' women. Women who help pay the bills. The actual value brought into the home by homemakers has been vastly undermined. I am only saying we have lost something quite valuable and maybe we (men and women) should reevaluate things.
Why do I choose to work? Uhhh....because I went to university, learned how to do something, and actually enjoy doing it. Do I do it for the money?...not always. When my son was born, I didn't HAVE to work. I could have been a stay at home Mom...but I truely love what I do. I also do volunteer work related to my field...because I love it....It is personally fulfilling and necessary to my personal happiness. Am I a biological freak? Am I a feminist?.....not really....I am making a personal choice, which just makes me human.......My personal thoughts on the subject.
Why do I choose to work? Uhhh....because I went to university, learned how to do something, and actually enjoy doing it.
Uhhh....don't you think home makers also work, and know how to do something?....Excuse me, but it sounds like you imply they don't work or know how to do anything...
Why do I choose to work? Uhhh....because I went to university, learned how to do something, and actually enjoy doing it.
Uhhh....don't you think home makers also work, and know how to do something?....Excuse me, but it sounds like you imply they don't work or know how to do anything...
Hey alameda, why don't you stop being so defensive and actually try to understand that I was merely giving my thougths on the matter. I meant to imply that I wanted to use what I had learned in university. No offense was meant....not quite sure why offense was taken...I find you extremely sensitive about the whole thing. I am a homemaker AS WELL AS a career woman and I do both quite well, thank you.
Ok so you don't agree with Alameda, but no need to be so venimous with your response.
You call that venomous? I call it sarcasm. But if you are going to call me out on my response then you should, in fairness, look at some of alameda's responses and do the same.
The reality of the situation is you would be hard pressed to find many traditional 'wives' anywhere these days. They are a dying species, and I mean that quite literally. It's mostly men who love having working wives. They want 'career' women. Women who help pay the bills. The actual value brought into the home by homemakers has been vastly undermined. I am only saying we have lost something quite valuable and maybe we (men and women) should reevaluate things.
Ok, I see. However, I found your post to be condescending to many women. Women already have so many expectations and pressures to fulfill - 'to be a good mom', 'to be independent enough', 'to prove that we can have a career', 'to always look amazing'... etc, etc.... the list goes on. There's really no need for you or anybody else to judge women based on their choices to do what they find most suitable for themselves. When a woman WANTS to work, people like you put guilt into these women's lives that they are not good enough mothers. I know some women who literally feel relieved to go to work because home drives them crazy (they are single moms).
It is a great progress that women now have careers and became a bit more independent, the next step I hope will be that men will realize that they also need to share the job of taking care of children (only 1.7% of all primary child takers are men in the US).
I really don't understand why you glorify the traditional child caring role of women so much. I find it a very suffocating environment when roles are so strictly divided and pre-organized. People can choose various combinations of work and home, whatever works for them best. And, psychologists say that a good child-care facility is good for children, helps them learn their social skills. Parents can work and can be good parents at the same time, especially when BOTH mother and father are involved. It's not so much about the quantity of the time spent together, but mostly about the quality.
We (women) should support each other instead of being judgmental like that.
One of our greatests poet said
'Al Om madrasaten iza a'adadtha
A'adadt omahtan Tayibai al'araki'
'The Mother is an institute,if you prepar her well,you are preparing a nation with very good roots'
As you see he didnt say a father.
So actually the role of a mother is unique ,very much unique to the fact that she is a woman
İ mean,yes i agree men should help,share ...bla bla,ect
But they can NEVER and will NEVER also take that role
No offence guys,but i think a mother can do good with children without the father than a father can do without a mother
İts hard of course both ways,but kindness,sensitiveness,...ect is in women nature more than men
So yes,i agree that having more time for the children in the women schedule is more important than in the men's
But as gg said,i agree with that too its not optional nowadays,its even a privilege to have such choice
It is a sweet sentiment, canli...but I don't agree with it. The role of father is just as important as the role of mother. Parenting should be a seamless cooperation between two people who make an agreement to share parenting duties...with no one person assuming a more important role. It seems to me that men purposely stress how important mothers are so that they don't feel guilty about only doing a half-ass job.
It is a sweet sentiment, canli...but I don't agree with it. The role of father is just as important as the role of mother. Parenting should be a seamless cooperation between two people who make an agreement to share parenting duties...with no one person assuming a more important role. It seems to me that men purposely stress how important mothers are so that they don't feel guilty about only doing a half-ass job.
İ'd rather agree with that Elisabith to some extent,the role of either father or a mother is completing each other each to her/his nature
Still Fathers generally cant offer same tenderness and kindness as mothers do which is very much important specially to the children's first years
So i believe having mothers around in the children first years is rather important than fathers around
So,in choosing to establish a family,one must carry on his/her duties towards it
So at that times,in my opinion children come first before career as long as you chose to have one
You cant choose to establish a family and have the children then let them suffer the feelings that' neither Mom or Dad are free to be with me ' or ' work comes first then i do '
İn that early ages children need their mothers more
Of course i dont say kids dont need their fathers,but the first person they got to know when opening their eyes is Mother,so their security is there with her
We have different natures,we cant say we are equal so we are same
We are equal,but YES we are different.
Canli, generally speaking it does not matter whether it's a mother or a father, as long as there is caring and love for the child. Research supports this. There are single fathers in the world and their children are doing fine, as long as the fathers take care of them with love and care. There are children who prefer their fathers to mothers when the fathers are more available, more supportive and more loving. Both parents are very important to children and fathers are equally needed and capable.
Again,i dont say father role is not important,and fathers cant offer love and care
But our nature as women to be more tender and kind which is very much needed in children's life
We are not talking about forced stiuations where there is single mother or single father,we are talking generally at normal families which children can enjoy both father and mother
İf in such family father role is more important than mother role to a child in the child first years,then there must be something wrong with the mother psychological at least !
Maybe she is not the mother type after all,and thats fine too,but at this point,she shouldnt have thought of having children at the first place !
Having children is a very great and important decision.
Its a responsibility of forming another human, person personality in life,and effecting it though out his/her years from childhood till growing up
And i dont think we need to debat about how important a mother role is to the infant rather than his father role
İf the child dont recognize his father when born and only know his mother how come they are equally even if father offer same love and care ?
Canli, I think your opinions come from your experience and culture. There is nothing to say a man can not be as nuturing as a woman and just because a woman isn't openly affectionate does not mean she can't be an excellent mother. Raising a child takes loving people.....it doesn't matter if it is a mother, father, grandparent, adoptive parents, two mommys or two daddys (probably more common in Europe and the US than where you are). If children feel loved and their basic needs are taken care of, they will USUALLY grow up to be happy normal people.
Well maybe....
In my culture women tend to be more kind and tender than men
Even if they are equally to them And from my experience my mother was a working mother,even she was taking care of us most and we are almost her life,but i wished she wasnt a working Mom !
So i can same to you too,maybe your opinions come from your experience and culture also
And at this point,all to his/her opinion
But mine is,children needs their mother most till a time they can depend on themselves
Even if father is very much supportive,loving ...ect
But a mother is a mother nothing can take her place.
Again im talking about ideal or normal situation where a child is between his natural mother and father but if the situation is different,then i agree with you
We cant do anything about it at that time.
The hardest job in life is to raise kids...then add a career on top of it. Whether it's a choice a mother makes to have a career or stay at home..I commend them.
I find it's equally important that the father shares in the responsibilites and stops resorting to the ideas that we will take care of everything.
Bye the way I was a daddy's girl, even though my mom was a stay at home mom. So, all of those years with her home with me whether I believe was beneficial or not...I turned out to be a daddy's girl at the end.
The hardest job in life is to raise kids...then add a career on top of it. Whether it's a choice a mother makes to have a career or stay at home..I commend them.
I find it's equally important that the father shares in the responsibilites and stops resorting to the ideas that we will take care of everything.
I was thinking about what Canli wrote that women are more sensitive and affectionate. Thinking about my friends in Poland and their households, I don't find that 100% true, so, perhaps, it is a cultural thing.
I come from a family with a working mother and father. They worked (and still do) similar hours and spent similar amount of time with me and my brother. From the very beginning I was "institutionalised" (haha I know what you're thinking but that's not it...YET) and never felt deprived of love or attention. Never has it crossed my mind to blame mum for not being a housewife.
My brother and his wife took a different approach, as she earns more than him, they decided that my brother would stay at home and look after their two children and she'd be working. The children are happy and this deal somehow works for them. Actually, my brother would come out as an idiot if he insisted that my sister-in-law stayed at home because she's a woman.
I can only repeat what many of you said before, it doesn't matter which path you choose, all are equally hard.
I think banning the tomatoes in the U.S. is part of a conspiracy theory! Who is poisoning our tomatoes?
I am pretty sure that Turkey found out about my conspirary to undermine there country by marrying a Turk and stealing him and his offspring away...so the only thing left to do....poison the tomatoes!!
Not much changes around here then.... posts about muslims, posts about evil USA, posts about evil west and ...right at the bottom, the translation section TRULY never changes!
Basically this site should be re-named "Religion and Love Disputes".
Not much changes around here then.... posts about muslims, posts about evil USA, posts about evil west and ...right at the bottom, the translation section TRULY never changes!
Basically this site should be re-named "Religion and Love Disputes".
What a happy family we are at TC
La le laaaaaaaaaa
Ha ha
By looking at your performance in today's posts, you seem to be the same too Aenigma:
Like a bullet, goes in small and neat and comes out big and nasty.
You have been going right through the posts..
There seems to be more hatred and discontent on TC than usual....I think we need another Love Day! All you need is love!!
And it always seems like it's the same members who are involved with controversy. Some people are bored, if there not complaining or bitching about something.
There seems to be more hatred and discontent on TC than usual....I think we need another Love Day! All you need is love!!
And it always seems like it's the same members who are involved with controversy. Some people are bored, if there not complaining or bitching about something.
It doesn't help of course when you get an admin joining in the free for all as well.
Leave TC for a weekend and now it looks different!!! Looks nice...but the font is a little small on the front page of the forums....or maybe I just need new classes??
Leave TC for a weekend and now it looks different!!! Looks nice...but the font is a little small on the front page of the forums....or maybe I just need new classes??
Leave TC for a weekend and now it looks different!!! Looks nice...but the font is a little small on the front page of the forums....or maybe I just need new classes??
How can a person can feel as a stranger in the middle of the people he thought as they know him the best...
this cannot be possible i might be doing wrong in somewhere...
Everybody sees what s/he wants to see and hears what s/he wants,people dream their own dream so do not make assumptions they know you.Everybody has his or her own life and perception of it.
Stating your mind clearly,saying what you want would help to avoid such misunderstandings
How can a person can feel as a stranger in the middle of the people he thought as they know him the best...
this cannot be possible i might be doing wrong in somewhere...
Everybody sees what s/he wants to see and hears what s/he wants,people dream their own dream so do not make assumptions they know you.Everybody has his or her own life and perception of it.
Stating your mind clearly,saying what you want would help to avoid such misunderstandings
will you tell me something that i dont already know? sorry that upstairs you stated didnt work!
How can a person can feel as a stranger in the middle of the people he thought as they know him the best...
this cannot be possible i might be doing wrong in somewhere...
Everybody sees what s/he wants to see and hears what s/he wants,people dream their own dream so do not make assumptions they know you.Everybody has his or her own life and perception of it.
Stating your mind clearly,saying what you want would help to avoid such misunderstandings
will you tell me something that i dont already know? sorry that upstairs you stated didnt work!
How can a person can feel as a stranger in the middle of the people he thought as they know him the best...
this cannot be possible i might be doing wrong in somewhere...
Maybe you dont explain yourself as much as you should,so you thought people understand you as you are
But the thing that,you need to show more so they understand you best.
Sui,you are revealing your dudu face with this question!!!!!!! next question will be about laptop or mobile...just in case i need to check my account if I can maintain such straightforward "dudu"
How can a person can feel as a stranger in the middle of the people he thought as they know him the best...
this cannot be possible i might be doing wrong in somewhere...
Maybe you dont explain yourself as much as you should,so you thought people understand you as you are
But the thing that,you need to show more so they understand you best.
Sui,you are revealing your dudu face with this question!!!!!!! next question will be about laptop or mobile...just in case i need to check my account if I can maintain such straightforward "dudu"
Offfff!!! come on!!! where is a glass of beer and a laptop pfff.... do you mix the worlds of macros and micros i guess did you drink something?
Sui,you are revealing your dudu face with this question!!!!!!! next question will be about laptop or mobile...just in case i need to check my account if I can maintain such straightforward "dudu"
Offfff!!! come on!!! where is a glass of beer and a laptop pfff.... do you mix the worlds of macros and micros i guess did you drink something?
not yet....just need a good companion.LIR is the first,you can join,we will go Dutch with paying as for micro and macro....are you teasing me ????
Ohhh!!! today is my best day!!! I made it finally!!
I am a dudu now!! i am so happy
Sui...as you are now a certified dudu....please submit your iPod, laptop and cellphone requests via PM. Posting these requests on a forum is absolutely forbidden.
and you see how little is needed to feel happy,just to admit who we really are
No i wasnt a Dudu!!! I just became so because of you dudu lovers
So you admit you are a dudu then..
I told you.. i wasnt happy with being an engineering and being respecful to people and working for better future of humanity... i wasnt having any prim or attention...
so for a better life, where i dont need to work bla bla...
i was trying to be dudu... but its damn hard
and you see how little is needed to feel happy,just to admit who we really are
No i wasnt a Dudu!!! I just became so because of you dudu lovers
So you admit you are a dudu then..
I told you.. i wasnt happy with being an engineering and being respecful to people and working for better future of humanity... i wasnt having any prim or attention...
so for a better life, where i dont need to work bla bla...
i was trying to be dudu... but its damn hard
It figures all the nice guys are gone..they all end up resorting to the dudu club.
If there are any descent men left in this world, please speak up...
It figures all the nice guys are gone..they all end up resorting to the dudu club.
If there are any descent men left in this world, please speak up...
Oh well... i might rethink about being dudu...
i decided... i wont be a dudu
Well, it seems you are easily influenced..Sui. I love you today, but tomorrow I hate you. Maybe you do have some dudu tendencies or maybe you are a very nice guy.
Well, it seems you are easily influenced..Sui. I love you today, but tomorrow I hate you. Maybe you do have some dudu tendencies or maybe you are a very nice guy.
For a couple of years i was trying hard on my being nice boy etc...
but the benefits for a dudu were better than for a nice guy... so i was about gave up!!!
But you reached out and saved me!! thank you my saviour
Well, it seems you are easily influenced..Sui. I love you today, but tomorrow I hate you. Maybe you do have some dudu tendencies or maybe you are a very nice guy.
For a couple of years i was trying hard on my being nice boy etc...
but the benefits for a dudu were better than for a nice guy... so i was about gave up!!!
But you reached out and saved me!! thank you my saviour
I have been called many things in my life, but saviour is an honor. Anyone who needs to be saved, just let me know.
Well, it seems you are easily influenced..Sui. I love you today, but tomorrow I hate you. Maybe you do have some dudu tendencies or maybe you are a very nice guy.
For a couple of years i was trying hard on my being nice boy etc...
but the benefits for a dudu were better than for a nice guy... so i was about gave up!!!
But you reached out and saved me!! thank you my saviour
I have been called many things in my life, but saviour is an honor. Anyone who needs to be saved, just let me know.
teas, I am shocked you are so easily flattered! Don´t you see he is using his dudu charms??? Next thing you know, he will be asking for a laptop!! Don´t do it Teas!!
Well, it seems you are easily influenced..Sui. I love you today, but tomorrow I hate you. Maybe you do have some dudu tendencies or maybe you are a very nice guy.
For a couple of years i was trying hard on my being nice boy etc...
but the benefits for a dudu were better than for a nice guy... so i was about gave up!!!
But you reached out and saved me!! thank you my saviour
I have been called many things in my life, but saviour is an honor. Anyone who needs to be saved, just let me know.
teas, I am shocked you are so easily flattered! Don´t you see he is using his dudu charms??? Next thing you know, he will be asking for a laptop!! Don´t do it Teas!!
teas, I am shocked you are so easily flattered! Don´t you see he is using his dudu charms??? Next thing you know, he will be asking for a laptop!! Don´t do it Teas!!
Oh Elisabeth
I already have 2 laptops and a Desktop PC, and noone of them were given to me by anyother one... I bring a new phylosophy and a perspective to duduness
teas, I am shocked you are so easily flattered! Don´t you see he is using his dudu charms??? Next thing you know, he will be asking for a laptop!! Don´t do it Teas!!
Oh Elisabeth
I already have 2 laptops and a Desktop PC, and noone of them were given to me by anyother one... I bring a new phylosophy and a perspective to duduness
Daydreamer, you made me think, 30 years ago today I gave birth to my oldest son and I had been in hospital 3 months already by that time!
Funny thing I looked at the clock today at 2:30 and remembered, it was the time he was delivered. I remember going under the anaesthetic, seeing the lights spinning above my head, and in those lights was a man and two boys. I remember coming round and seeing this tiny little thing in a incubator, and thinking, it can´t be mine, it is yellow (the lights made him yellow) and too small!
Today, that tiny little baby is 185cm, and as strong as any man I know.
use the "what are you wearing today" thread for sharing this information!
Ahhhhhhh mom!
+1
Exactly GG.
Freedom of expression is eroding on this site day by day.. But GG, we can always go and wake uykusuz up or resurrect his famous thread..
+1
Exactly GG.
Freedom of expression is eroding on this site day by day.. But GG, we can always go and wake uykusuz up or resurrect his famous thread..
Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Don´t play our trump card so early!!!
+1
Exactly GG.
Freedom of expression is eroding on this site day by day.. But GG, we can always go and wake uykusuz up or resurrect his famous thread..
+1
Exactly GG.
Freedom of expression is eroding on this site day by day.. But GG, we can always go and wake uykusuz up or resurrect his famous thread..
hahahah, don´t be such a drama queen canim!!!
I called him the same thing the other day! I think thehandsom needs an academy award for best supporting actor!
Welcome back Karekin04! Unfortunately I am unable to open your post (or any of that thread) because of it´s title and the fact I am at work!!! It will immediately send warning signals to our IT department!
Welcome back Karekin04! Unfortunately I am unable to open your post (or any of that thread) because of it´s title and the fact I am at work!!! It will immediately send warning signals to our IT department!
aww thanks for the flowers Don´t worry I´ll spare you the anticipation and possible accident you might get involved in trying to drive home so fast to read my words of wisdom the girl just said something about finding GROSS stuff in her hubbys history and should she be worried, and I said something to the effect of..... PROBABLY Nice to see you too as always
Has anybody noticed that Aenigmamagnadea is against our forum rules? When her posts appear in the "New in Forums" panel on the right, it ruins the page frame!!!
I can’t help but be dismayed at a couple of things here today.
First, there is much ado about nothing over a ridiculous JOKE! For god´s sake people lighten up!!!!
Secondly, a member - who shall remain unnamed - continually attacks certain members with personal and crude comments, which have to be deleted. This person is so self-righteous and arrogant and can‘t see in the mirror that his own behavior is much worse than those he decries!!
Is he above reproach? Do the same standards not apply….warnings and then removal from the site?
I can’t help but be dismayed at a couple of things here today.
First, there is much ado about nothing over a ridiculous JOKE! For god´s sake people lighten up!!!!
Secondly, a member - who shall remain unnamed - continually attacks certain members with personal and crude comments, which have to be deleted. This person is so self-righteous and arrogant and can‘t see in the mirror that his own behavior is much worse than those he decries!!
Is he above reproach? Do the same standards not apply….warnings and then removal from the site?
I can’t help but be dismayed at a couple of things here today.
First, there is much ado about nothing over a ridiculous JOKE! For god´s sake people lighten up!!!!
Secondly, a member - who shall remain unnamed - continually attacks certain members with personal and crude comments, which have to be deleted. This person is so self-righteous and arrogant and can‘t see in the mirror that his own behavior is much worse than those he decries!!
Is he above reproach? Do the same standards not apply….warnings and then removal from the site?
Oh couldnt find, quote of the day thread.. so i write here...
i am currently playing a game called Call of Duty 2
and while you complete missions... there are favorite quotes from people who affected the worlds history...
wish i could write down all but my hands are slower than the slides
here one of them!
"Better to fight for something than live for nothing." -General George S. Patton
I thought essays on tc were supposed to be about Turkey, not about people´s flings with Turks..
If it´s an interesting story then it can be about flings! What we don´t want is stories about "I went to TR for holiday and I fell in love" and the essay is about how this person feels about the new boy!
I thought essays on tc were supposed to be about Turkey, not about people´s flings with Turks..
If it´s an interesting story then it can be about flings! What we don´t want is stories about "I went to TR for holiday and I fell in love" and the essay is about how this person feels about the new boy!
haha
Well, I am impatiently waiting for the next episode of the ´trio´ or a new one ´a fling with Turkish milk man´
You can tell it´s going to be a bad Monday when you arrive to work and you are wearing to different shoes.):
I did that once! The thing was I didn´t even NOTICE until nearly lunchtime!!! (but then, luckily, neither did anyone else and I managed to spend most of the afternoon with my feet under my desk!!)
I did that once! The thing was I didn´t even NOTICE until nearly lunchtime!!! (but then, luckily, neither did anyone else and I managed to spend most of the afternoon with my feet under my desk!!
I was wondering why I was walking so wierd. One heal is higher than the other. I guess I´ll be at my desk all day too. hahaha
Why do men get lazy in relationships? Because we let them. Some tips on how to prevent that from happening:
Keep him out of his comfort zone by making rules early on, even if he doesn´t like them
Make sure he realizes just how desirable you are to others
Never become lazy yourself
Don´t be at his beck and call
Ensure you retain your friends, interests, vacations and activities to a degree
Never allow him to think you are reliant on him
Keep some of your finances separate
Don´t always return his phone calls
Don´t allow him to know what you are thinking all the time
Socialize without him occasionally
All domestic duties are shared, no excuses
Threaten to dump him occasionally
Use all your womanly powers that you employ so well in the early stages of dating
Ensure you retain male friends you had before
Do not run after him
Go on vacation with your friends
Change your mind about things occasionally and keep him guessing
A relationship is equal through and throught. Let him get the upper hand and allow him to become too comfortable and he will abuse the situation. Just make sure you don´t allow it to happen in the first place.
* Keep him out of his comfort zone by making rules early on, even if he doesn´t like them well.. your choice really, you will be out ´in the market again soon´ ***
* Make sure he realizes just how desirable you are to others dont do it with turkish men, you never know where ´wrath of his jealousy´ may land
* Never become lazy yourself agreed 100% * Don´t be at his beck and call agreed 100%, give us a break * Ensure you retain your friends, interests, vacations and activities to a degree upto a degree, yes * Never allow him to think you are reliant on him * Keep some of your finances separate much better for us too * Don´t always return his phone calls see *** ed answer above * Don´t allow him to know what you are thinking all the time we are not intrested about furniture, colour of the kitchen, your weight, colour of your hair type of things that much anyway..but good decision..dont let us know what you think all the time * Socialize without him occasionally upto a degree, yes. Otherwise, see *** ed answer above * All domestic duties are shared, no excuses * Threaten to dump him occasionally remember the story of boy crying wolf? * Use all your womanly powers that you employ so well in the early stages of dating agreed..but not only in the earl stages..You should use ´all your womanly powers´ all the times * Ensure you retain male friends you had before see *** ed answer above * Do not run after him you can NOT stop it when you feel like running after a man * Go on vacation with your friends see *** ed answer above * Change your mind about things occasionally and keep him guessing This item is pointless..women always change their minds anyway
Why do men get lazy in relationships? Because we let them. Some tips on how to prevent that from happening:............... relationship is equal through and throught. Let him get the upper hand and allow him to become too comfortable and he will abuse the situation. Just make sure you don´t allow it to happen in the first place............
This is absurd!....It sounds like a business negotiation...or buying a carpet in the bazzar....not developing a loving relationship.
You will never know love playing games like this.........
This is absurd!....It sounds like a business negotiation...or buying a carpet in the bazzar....not developing a loving relationship.
You will never know love playing games like this.........
.....try being real....it works better..........
You are free to disagree, you know? But in all these idealistic relationships that start oh so promising, the woman ends up doing everything in no time - she does all the work to maintain the relationship, she does majority if not all the house chores, she has to take care of children and also has to have a job. And the man will go and cheat on her becasue "he didn´t get all he wanted in the relationship". Doesn´t sound all that loving to me. And while these tips sound mechanical now, I hope that women will learn to have higher expectations from their men and for themselves and hopefully men will eventually be forced to pick up the slack.
This is absurd!....It sounds like a business negotiation...or buying a carpet in the bazzar....not developing a loving relationship.
You will never know love playing games like this.........
.....try being real....it works better..........
Don´t you thoroughly contemplate your options, appearance and cost when purchasing a rug? I think the same thing can apply to men. Some women make hasty off the cuff decisions without giving a whole lof of thought into purchasing a rug. If you a buy a rug just for it´s appearance and you don´t care about the quality, the rug may not last.
I think that Alameda is talking about a very idealistic situation. She assumes that a man who loves his girlfriend/wife, will not abuse the wife´s kindness and love. I think this is very much removed from reality.
Of course, I agree that love has to be natural and felt, but we live in a physical world and some things just don´t depend on spirituality. When a person (man or a woman) knows he/she can get away with something, he/she most probably will eventually use this opportunity in one way or another.
Also the problem is that we do not live in an equal world. We do not start from the same spot. Men and women are raised very differently and I think that women are raised thinking that they need to please men, while men are taught to be more egocentric. Therefore, there has to be an active process to reverse this damage and get women on an equal footing with men. Only then, idealistic, true love that not only takes but also gives, can be possible.
So we are posting links now instead of our own opinions?
Ah....love, a very long complicated topic....you didn´t like that song? Something to think about, don´t you think? Too busy to do much typing...sorry. Where is the add link button?
Ah....love, a very long complicated topic....you didn´t like that song? Something to think about, don´t you think? Too busy to do much typing...sorry. Where is the add link button?
Well... I think your own thoughts would be more valuable then a song, but the song was nice, thank you. The add link button is the "link" icon on the bar on top, right next to "go forward", second to the left from the smileys icon. To add a link, highlight a word in your post and click on the link icon, a small box will pop up and insert the URL in the "Link URL" line.
Well... I think your own thoughts would be more valuable then a song, but the song was nice, thank you. The add link button is the "link" icon on the bar on top, right next to "go forward", second to the left from the smileys icon. To add a link, highlight a word in your post and click on the link icon, a small box will pop up and insert the URL in the "Link URL" line.
There is no such thing as you mentioned here....There is only an add quote... box.
Also, have classes started? I got over 6 messages last week saying they were starting, this week nothing, but it looks like they started???
Above the ´add quote box´ there is a grey-coloured bar which has B I UABC etc..ending in .
I am not a member of the classes but I believe they started on Monday 11th
Not on my screen. Directly above the box for adding the message is B I UABC etc..ending in , above that is a blue box with add quote text in it.
As for the classes, I did not get any notification on it´s starting on the 11th. I did get at least half a dozen false start messages, so this time I didn´t know it actually started. I did take Erdinc´s class on Saturday. His class was fabulous and I can hardly wait for another one.
Not on my screen. Directly above the box for adding the message is B I UABC etc..ending in , above that is a blue box with add quote text in it.
Above your text box, there should be these: BIUABC four allign icons, two enumeration icons, go back arrow, go forward arrow, link icon, break link icon and emoticons.
The link icon will be unavailable unless you select a word that you want to make into a link.
Above your text box, there should be these: BIUABC four allign icons, two enumeration icons, go back arrow, go forward arrow, link icon, break link icon and emoticons.
The link icon will be unavailable unless you select a word that you want to make into a link.
hyperlink Ok, I see now.....but the preview option is not available.....I miss it.
hyperlink Ok, I see now.....but the preview option is not available.....I miss it.
Thank you!
Your welcome There is no preview option because right now we are typing in rich text right away, the message is already formatted, so we thought there is no use for a preview option.
Thanks for the link to the vowel harmony lesson though.
Not on my screen. Directly above the box for adding the message is B I UABC etc..ending in , above that is a blue box with add quote text in it.
I do beg your pardon - my mistake, they are actually UNDER the ´add quote´ box - but as you have just listed the things you were asking about you could obviously see them
Hardly anyone reacts on essays... And I think it´s not only me as an essay writer who finds that disappointing. When I look at great essays from Libralady, Leelu and others and I see only 3-10 comments I think ´what a pity, did they/we all wrote for nothing´? (I have to admit that I don´t commented to all essays as well, but I´ve got an excuse - my absence for 8 months... )
Hardly anyone reacts on essays... And I think it´s not only me as an essay writer who finds that disappointing. When I look at great essays from Libralady, Leelu and others and I see only 3-10 comments I think ´what a pity, did they/we all wrote for nothing´? (I have to admit that I don´t commented to all essays as well, but I´ve got an excuse - my absence for 8 months... )
We dont react that much to essays simple because, there is a chance that we may get a bottle of heinz vinager if we do.
I love Turkey as a country, I like many Turkish people I know here on TC, in my hometown or who I´ve met during my travels, I´m jealous about their hospitality and wish my fellow countrymen were the same (and we are not, I know), I´m fond of the culture, history and food of Turkey, so in short: I´m a fan. But what makes me very sick is that all over ´do not even dare to THINK a bad word about my country´, that irrational nationalism as if there is nothing wrong and no-one makes mistakes. (Sorry, I had to get it off my chest.)
I love Turkey as a country, I like many Turkish people I know here on TC, in my hometown or who I´ve met during my travels, I´m jealous about their hospitality and wish my fellow countrymen were the same (and we are not, I know), I´m fond of the culture, history and food of Turkey, so in short: I´m a fan. But what makes me very sick is that all over ´do not even dare to THINK a bad word about my country´, that irrational nationalism as if there is nothing wrong and no-one makes mistakes. (Sorry, I had to get ot off my chest.)
Do you know what I blame this on? Article 301 and mandatory military service to name a few.
Are you calling handsom an animal??? This comment might be considered a personal insult you know - I may have to delete you/it/him/somebody!
OK, well think of him as our fury little friend then! I had no idea that TC was so PC! Sorry, handsom if I let the "cat out of the bag" about your true nature.
OK, well think of him as our fury little friend then! I had no idea that TC was so PC! Sorry, handsom if I let the "cat out of the bag" about your true nature.
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oh yeah i forgot about Handsome! There a discussion on here last year about the ´furriness´ of turkish men and if the memory serves me well, Our friend Handsome was discussed too. which i might add he took in very good humour too.
Still got the pic handsome???? Was such a good, fun thread too . hahahaha.
Merhaba everyone, today I am not working, but I have a tought in my mind : "one minutre of anger takes away 60 secound of your happiness," so please SMILE and everyone will love you
Offf, I just saw this!!! I refuse to be stereotyped like this! (although I agree about thehandsom and GG and PT )
Ok, I will admit it now. PT and I are step sister’s (she of course, being the evil one).
Her mother, alameda, married my father and then drove him mad with her incessant links. Since his institutionalism, I have tried to become of the family, because I thought it would make him happy….but alameda has always told me I will never be as good as PT! There you have it ladies and gentlemen. The whole ugly story....the TRUE reason PT and I don´t get along.
I have the complicated dilema of which train to catch to go to London today for a meeting this afternoon! Do I go on an early train and have a relaxing lunch before my meeting or do I go on a later train and have a sandwich on the train? I need some assistance to sort out this dilema, but I don´t have long to decide!
I have the complicated dilema of which train to catch to go to London today for a meeting this afternoon! Do I go on an early train and have a relaxing lunch before my meeting or do I go on a later train and have a sandwich on the train? I need some assistance to sort out this dilema, but I don´t have long to decide!
Depends who is paying your expense account! Sandwich on the train is cheaper, but more utilitarian. Relaxing lunch sounds good.
A lot of Lehmann Brothers employees can now be seen eating sandwiches on the train....
Hahahahahahha.... so what else does your little munchkin do?
He´s a little terrorist - my arms are knee-length now as he demands to be carried all the time. I don´t have any time to agrue in forums as he demands I devote all my attention to him
He´s a little terrorist - my arms are knee-length now as he demands to be carried all the time. I don´t have any time to agrue in forums as he demands I devote all my attention to him
How dare he???? You can´t let this little person rule your life you know - you must be strong!!! Just remember - only another 18 or so years of this demand for your attention!!!
How dare he???? You can´t let this little person rule your life you know - you must be strong!!! Just remember - only another 18 or so years of this demand for your attention!!!
That´s consolation! Great to know I have just 17 years, 11 months and 4 days left
I have the complicated dilema of which train to catch to go to London today for a meeting this afternoon! Do I go on an early train and have a relaxing lunch before my meeting or do I go on a later train and have a sandwich on the train? I need some assistance to sort out this dilema, but I don´t have long to decide!
Wondering how you sorted out this ´dilemma´! Ah the stresses and strains of the working life - how I miss them!
We have a pool! - it´s a nightmare trying to decide!
I think talking about such dilemmas is cruel and inhumane and should be banned!!!
Have you thought for a moment how someone who has neither of these and instead is suffering at the moment with much more mundane things in life might feel about reading this????????
I think talking about such dilemmas is cruel and inhumane and should be banned!!!
Have you thought for a moment how someone who has neither of these and instead is suffering at the moment with much more mundane things in life might feel about reading this????????
I have the words for you!
"What a selfish lot of women, worrying about pool, beach, bikini blah blah blah..shall I have a raki or an efes?"
Deleting or locking threads without telling the reason or without discussing it in public is disrespecting the people who spent some times searching and writing it..
I don´t think that the so-called pro-PKK messages were aggressive. I have not read any posting that supported PKK or said they are great. I do have read postings that touched the sore spot of brutal actions against people who are accused of sympathising with the terrorist just and solely because they belong to the same group - as if being a right wing American automatically makes you a KKK-supporter, how ridiculous that idea.
I do think however that there is not a communal view between mods. I think it is a very bad development when every mod can do what s/he thinks is right without consent.
I do think however that there is not a communal view between mods. I think it is a very bad development when every mod can do what s/he thinks is right without consent.
İ dont know where have you got that idea .
First,we usually do discuss issues ´when needed´ between us before making a decisions about them
Second,we have the forum rules to get back too
Third,if we will take a permission to each action or decision we take or make,i think then there would be no need to have mods at all unless you think our main job is to do as we have been told !
We work as a team,each offer his/her point of view,and i believe we do have good understanding between us.
Deleting or locking threads without telling the reason or without discussing it in public is disrespecting the people who spent some times searching and writing it..
Then it will give you more time to search about other topics other than these issues. I advise you to profit it.
I feel to give an explanation, even if we have an administration forum and we give our reasons to every decisionand every step we take. Moderators have been given some decision making responsibilities, and authorities. The moderators can use their powers taking its responsiblity, and they give an explanation for their acts to the administration forum. Though all of what they have done are usually changeable things. The threads may have been deleted or locked but the admin can undelete them or unlock them. If an admin is not happy about a mod, he/she can dismiss him/her. I have simply used my powers and the responsibility totally belongs to me and I envisaged all its consequences.
Are you advising me what to write or how to write?
If you have an IDEA and if you think it is correct, I DARE you to post it. Lets see what your ideas are made of..
You have no argument to post..do you?
I, as well, do have arguments. Look I have been already argueing with you. I hope everyone has, but I am not willing to play games here. I am sure that you understand damn well what I mean. Do not do show here. Not posting things about politics does not mean that I have no idea about politics. I support as well freedom of mind and speech, and I have pity as well for all humans and against all inhuman acts, as much as the pity you have for some terrorists that have been tortured.
I advised you to leave the PKK subject aside for a while since you have already contributed a lot on this subject and as you paniced a lot that you wouldn´t be able to write on these for a while.
I, as well, do have arguments. Look I have been already argueing with you. I hope everyone has, but I am not willing to play games here. I am sure that you understand damn well what I mean. Do not do show here. Not posting things about politics does not mean that I have no idea about politics. I support as well freedom of mind and speech, and I have pity as well for all humans and against all inhuman acts.
I, as well, do have arguments. Look I have been already argueing with you. I hope everyone has, but I am not willing to play games here. I am sure that you understand damn well what I mean. Do not do show here. Not posting things about politics does not mean that I have no idea about politics. I support as well freedom of mind and speech, and I have pity as well for all humans and against all inhuman acts, as much as the pity you have for some terrorists that have been tortured.
I advised you to leave the PKK subject aside for a while since you have already contributed a lot on this subject and as you paniced a lot that you wouldn´t be able to write on these for a while.
haha
Look mltm
I dont panic that often
You are showing every single sign of ´i have some ideas but not sure of them´ type of behaviour here.
Instead of locking and deleting the threads I would LOVE to see YOU POSTING YOUR IDEAS.
And let me respond to them..
Regarding your advice about leaving PKK as the subject, I would not burry my head into the sand as you do..
I will write about anything I find related to my country. You delete or lock them and see what happens..OK?
Missing? Mwoh... hair-splitting stuff about titles and how to express one´s opinion. That´s all.
I just read Erdincs post to resign and leave TC. My guess is that someone offended him and the result is we can no longer post about the PKK.. Am I close..
I just read Erdincs post to resign and leave TC. My guess is that someone offended him and the result is we can no longer post about the PKK.. Am I close..
Erdinc thinks that PKK as a topic should not be allowed to be discussed because if it is, it is propaganda that is sympathizing with PKK. Nobody offended him. He said that he cannot work on a site on which PKK is discussed as a topic. At first, his request was seen as overly exaggerated and we did not comply with it, so he left. Later, more Turkish people supported Erdinc´s ideas and it lead to a change in forum rules regarding discussions about PKK.
Erdinc thinks that PKK as a topic should not be allowed to be discussed because if it is, it is propaganda that is sympathizing with PKK. Nobody offended him. He said that he cannot work on a site on which PKK is discussed as a topic. At first, his request was seen as overly exaggerated and we did not comply with it, so he left. Later, more Turkish people supported Erdinc´s ideas and it lead to a change in forum rules regarding discussions about PKK.
It was fair enough to see that response from Erdinc, will you please see that for once? Lets be honest to ourselves, the articles was posted towards the provocative events over kurdish people by non kurdish ones, and stupid governors...
but for gods sake, why there was no investigations and searches about the other side? How about them? Does PKK defend the Kurds, with killing the doctors, engineers and teachers send there??
Erdinc is right, because talking about PKK is nonsense, there are lots of better topics to search about Turkey, which also would enlight people here...
It was fair enough to see that response from Erdinc, will you please see that for once? Lets be honest to ourselves, the articles was posted towards the provocative events over kurdish people by non kurdish ones, and stupid governors...
but for gods sake, why there was no investigations and searches about the other side? How about them? Does PKK defend the Kurds, with killing the doctors, engineers and teachers send there??
Erdinc is right, because talking about PKK is nonsense, there are lots of better topics to search about Turkey, which also would enlight people here...
Always good to see how both sides make effort to understand each other!
It was fair enough to see that response from Erdinc, will you please see that for once? Lets be honest to ourselves, the articles was posted towards the provocative events over kurdish people by non kurdish ones, and stupid governors...
but for gods sake, why there was no investigations and searches about the other side? How about them? Does PKK defend the Kurds, with killing the doctors, engineers and teachers send there??
Erdinc is right, because talking about PKK is nonsense, there are lots of better topics to search about Turkey, which also would enlight people here...
HE is not right..
It is simple..
Somebody posts an idea..
it is just an idea...it is just an idea.it is just an idea...it is just an idea.it is just an idea.it is just an idea.
and and
someone is saying that it should be deleted instead of posting a counter idea.
I am repeating again.. IT IS JUST AN IDEA...
And someone does NOT have a counter idea...or that someone does not believe that he will WIN the argument..
Some one has NO tolerance for different ideas..
And you are supporting banning the ideas.
A huge well done to people who are afraid of and in favour of banning ideas
there are lots of better topics to search about Turkey, which also would enlight people here...
"Better"? "More enlightening?" How?
Perhaps you feel that recipes or advice on how to get a visa are more appropriate?
This is, frankly, stupidity. Why can we discuss some issues about Turkey and not others? Maybe you all lived with censorship so long that you no longer know how to recognise it!
it is just an idea...it is just an idea.it is just an idea...it is just an idea.it is just an idea.it is just an idea.
and and
someone is saying that it should be deleted instead of posting a counter idea.
I am repeating again.. IT IS JUST AN IDEA...
And someone does NOT have a counter idea...or that someone does not believe that he will WIN the argument..
Some one has NO tolerance for different ideas..
And you are supporting banning the ideas.
A huge well done to people who are afraid of and in favour of banning ideas
Talking about ideas were not bad, but Ahmet Turk is the last person i would listen about the terrorist organisation, If you search on net, there was a talking between Babacan and him that Babacan says, you could not end your dialogue with PKK, then Ahmet Turk says, how this would be possible when the sister of this, brother of this on the mountains, that these are the members of that party...
What is shown and people write about the issue has nothing to do with the facts, what happens and sometimes that organisation starts to act and sometimes they stop acting?? Is it because the government becomes sometimes tolerant and not tolerant in south east or in east?
I wish you could write your own opionions but not those articles... I dont think anyone would be afraid of discussing anything.
It is just if it´s worth to say something!!!
Let me tell you the effect of so called Kurdish problem of East! the amazing moving of those people to western cities! thats the effect not PKK!!
Even though you give all they ask for! THAT ISSUE CAN NEVER END!
Perhaps you feel that recipes or advice on how to get a visa are more appropriate?
This is, frankly, stupidity. Why can we discuss some issues about Turkey and not others? Maybe you all lived with censorship so long that you no longer know how to recognise it!
What are you talking about? Is this what you get from what i wrote only? Please enlarge your view and stop hiding after such kinda nicknames... i am sure you were visiting here before...
Let me tell you the effect of so called Kurdish problem of East! the amazing moving of those people to western cities! thats the effect not PKK!!
Even though you give all they ask for! THAT ISSUE CAN NEVER END!
I wonder when you say "it is not worth discussing". EVERYTHING is worth discussing surely.
I love that again the evil west is back on the agenda. Luckily we do not accuse you of being supporters of Bin Ladan and sharing his ideas....because we are not so paranoid as you
What are you talking about? Is this what you get from what i wrote only? Please enlarge your view and stop hiding after such kinda nicknames... i am sure you were visiting here before...
You know very well I am Aenigma, I don´t hide it and also...why should my identity obstruct my point of view?
What are you talking about? Is this what you get from what i wrote only? Please enlarge your view and stop hiding after such kinda nicknames... i am sure you were visiting here before...
She´s not the only one that got that from what you wrote Sui. You want to censor subjects that you don´t personally like.....not much more to it than that.
What are you talking about? Is this what you get from what i wrote only? Please enlarge your view and stop hiding after such kinda nicknames... i am sure you were visiting here before...
She´s not the only one that got that from what you wrote Sui. You want to censor subjects that you don´t personally like.....not much more to it than that.
Look GG, its not the conspiracy theory, it is the basic fact that those terrorist organisation has nothing to do with cultural or ethnic problems which societies might solve eachother, why there is not much problem we hear about indians and black guys in America, why dont have groups as El Quida or PKK?
Think about, these issues wouldnt have end when some guys with who has balls dont take out their fingers
On the other hand, you can discuss anything you want... but i would give my bitter opinions about such topics... if you like or not... thats your problem
Look why dont you understand that, i have patronising ideas about such issues and you have humanistic and global modern opions about it, cant you still talk to me? we argue right?
And Iskoc and other people can decide whatever they want to talk, for me personally, PKK doesnt worth to discuss am i clear enough?
Look GG, its not the conspiracy theory, it is the basic fact that those terrorist organisation has nothing to do with cultural or ethnic problems which societies might solve eachother, why there is not much problem we hear about indians and black guys in America, why dont have groups as El Quida or PKK?
Think about, these issues wouldnt have end when some guys with who has balls dont take out their fingers
On the other hand, you can discuss anything you want... but i would give my bitter opinions about such topics... if you like or not... thats your problem
Indians and black guys in America?
Look, you cannot say it has nothing to do with cultural or ethnic problems - especially when we regularly see racism on this website.
Look GG, its not the conspiracy theory, it is the basic fact that those terrorist organisation has nothing to do with cultural or ethnic problems which societies might solve eachother, why there is not much problem we hear about indians and black guys in America, why dont have groups as El Quida or PKK?
Think about, these issues wouldnt have end when some guys with who has balls dont take out their fingers
On the other hand, you can discuss anything you want... but i would give my bitter opinions about such topics... if you like or not... thats your problem
Sorry....but I really don´t understand your point here. I am talking about the basic right to not be censored because SOME people are uncomfortable with a subject.
Do you only want discussions when there is some conculsion to them?
On the other hand, you can discuss anything you want... but i would give my bitter opinions about such topics... if you like or not... thats your problem
Then why have you been supporting Erdinc´s ´such topic should not be allowed´ ideas, since you are quite happy to give your opinions?
Sorry....but I really don´t understand your point here. I am talking about the basic right to not be censored because SOME people are uncomfortable with a subject.
Do you only want discussions when there is some conculsion to them?
ofcourse no, were there any conclusions in any thread discussed here?
Then why have you been supporting Erdinc´s ´such topic should not be allowed´ ideas, since you are quite happy to give your opinions?
Which one you said is true here?
Personally, i was bored to see only the negative issues of Turkey discussed here thats why i mentioned "better topics", but i would never say lock or delete, or let them not discuss, thats none of my business and the topics you started to create was not nice, up to my thoughts...
look handsom, it is not like you have to either support erdinc or thehandsom... i might think similar to erdinc on this issue... but i wouldnt ask for to be locked or cencored...
Why dont you still accept that, the articles you give simply making people to see that organisation something LEGAL?? which can not be possible?
Personally, i was bored to see only the negative issues of Turkey discussed here thats why i mentioned "better topics", but i would never say lock or delete, or let them not discuss, thats none of my business and the topics you started to create was not nice, up to my thoughts...
Sui, one day you will realise that most good discussion topics are NOT nice! Look at the "success" of peacetrain´s pet thread
Amendment: Ouh it was Ebbryu´s thread..... strange... it felt sooooooooooooo peacetrain!
 OMG so you didn´t understand it either? I thought I was losing it for a minute!Â
Look people, maybe it was because of my bad English...
however i was simply mentioning those Rockafellers, and big boys ruling this world...
You may say i might be paranoid and creating conspiracy theories, but i dont know how many of you dared to notice to a "documentary" i was shouting out here for sometime...
There you can see the ideas about Religions, World Bank, 9/11...
if you want the name you can reach me via pm
but i dont know how many of you dared to notice to a "documentary" i was shouting out here for sometime... There you can see the ideas about Religions, World Bank, 9/11... if you want the name you can reach me via pm
Well I have watched many documentaries Sui, and I don´t base all my views on just one TV show!
Sorry....but I really don´t understand your point here. I am talking about the basic right to not be censored because SOME people are uncomfortable with a subject.
Do you only want discussions when there is some conculsion to them?
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
Look mltm..
What we are writing and discussing here is not a crime..OK?
All the sources are LEGAL in Turkey..OK? (can you show me ONE, just one source I have givenhere which was not legal?)
Kurdish issue is not as taboo as it used to be.. OK?
we are trying to get inline with EU´s laws..OK?
And therefore censoring the ideas is NOT acceptable anymore..OK?
By saying that "we Turks censor the things" is an INSULT TO Turkishness..OK?
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
You haven´t a clue what I do or don´t care about and I don´t see why you want to make this personal.
The limits to basic rights are in topics being censored! I ask over and over....why are people so afraid of discussions and yet I have yet to see a real answer!
What we are writing and discussing here  is not a crime..OK?
All the sources are LEGAL in Turkey..OK? (can you show me ONE, just one source I have givenhere  which was not legal?)
Kurdish issue is not as taboo as it used to be.. OK?
we are trying to get inline with EU´s laws..OK?
And therefore censoring the ideas is NOT acceptable anymore..OK?
By saying that "we Turks censor the things" is an INSULT TO Turkishness..OK?
And it is hugely embarresing..OK?
Are you trying to get inline with EU laws with the discrimating government and their supporters? who they call themselves "us"? what is the value of others thinking?
You haven´t a clue what I do or don´t care about and I don´t see why you want to make this personal.
The limits to basic rights are in topics being censored! I ask over and over....why are people so afraid of discussions and yet I have yet to see a real answer!
No one is supporting TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS!!!
Sorry GG you are wrong, she obviously does have a clue. Meltem has the power to look into our minds - she has already told me today that I do not give a **** about the issue because I am not aware of its sensitivity.
Sorry GG you are wrong, she obviously does have a clue. Meltem has the power to look into our minds - she has already told me today that I do not give a **** about the issue because I am not aware of its sensitivity.
Hmmm.....I wonder if she can tell what I am thinking right now!
Sorry GG you are wrong, she obviously does have a clue. Meltem has the power to look into our minds - she has already told me today that I do not give a **** about the issue because I am not aware of its sensitivity.
What we are writing and discussing here is not a crime..OK?
All the sources are LEGAL in Turkey..OK? (can you show me ONE, just one source I have givenhere which was not legal?)
Kurdish issue is not as taboo as it used to be.. OK?
we are trying to get inline with EU´s laws..OK?
And therefore censoring the ideas is NOT acceptable anymore..OK?
By saying that "we Turks censor the things" is an INSULT TO Turkishness..OK?
And it is hugely embarresing..OK?
Mr. Mackey,
In Turkey kurdish issues has been being discussed more openly lately. Even there is a party which is linked to PKK! No one is put to jail because of these discussions. However, our wish in a forum that is aimed at foreigners is that it is not appropriate to open PKK to discussion so much. Then people who are not sensitive about this issue say their PKK justfying opinions which lead this site to look as a PKK sympathying site. Since we cannot control all the discussions, all the posts the decision not to discuss this issue has been taken. This forum is not a place for these discussions and do not continously accuse us of being enemies of democracy. This is just a site we are running, a cencorship about an issue on a site does not mean that you favor cencorship. Like it would not be wrong to cencor discussing Adam and Eve from a religious perspective in a medical faculty where science is made even if this faculty is in a democratic state.
And foreigners are a bunch of simpletons who cannot decide for themselves what´s what!
It is not to form their opinions. What I said is that foreigners who are not familiar with this subject may say "PKK justifying" things which will cause problem.
In Turkey kurdish issues has been being discussed more openly lately. Even there is a party which is linked to PKK! No one is put to jail because of these discussions. However, our wish in a forum that is aimed at foreigners is that it is not appropriate to open PKK to discussion so much. Then people who are not sensitive about this issue say their PKK justfying opinions which lead this site to look as a PKK sympathying site. Since we cannot control all the discussions, all the posts the decision not to discuss this issue has been taken. This forum is not a place for these discussions and do not continously accuse us of being enemies of democracy. This is just a site we are running, a cencorship about an issue on a site does not mean that you favor cencorship. Like it would not be wrong to cencor discussing Adam and Eve from a religious perspective in a medical faculty where science is made even if this faculty is in a democratic state.
Look mltm!!
Have you asked foreigners about it?
I dont think they are the ones who think that these topics are NOT appropriate for them.
BUT these topics are bothering YOU!!!! IT IS YOU BASICALLY THINKING THAT WAY..
Are you saying that our foreign friends DO NOT have brains to think for themselves? (you sounded like 1980 army generals who tried to dictate people what to think )
You may think that you are running the site. But we are contributing here as well..
I am asking you clearly here again:
If you think a post is saying the wrong things or the idea you disapprove of, THEN POST YOUR OWN IDEA AND SHOW THAT HOW WRONG IT IS..
If you are not doing that but deciding suddenly ´I am going to lock this thread´ is CENSORSHIP.
And also the indication that you have no idea about the issue..
It is like, ´I dont know what the hell you are talking about but I want to lock this subject anyway´
I dont think they are the ones who think that these topics are NOT appropriate for them.
BUT these topics are bothering YOU!!!! IT IS YOU BASICALLY THINKING THAT WAY..
Are you saying that our foreign friends DO NOT have brains to think for themselves? (you sounded like 1980 army generals who tried to dictate people what to think )
You may think that you are running the site. But we are contributing here as well..
I am asking you clearly here again:
If you think a post is saying the wrong things or the idea you disapprove of, THEN POST YOUR OWN IDEA AND SHOW THAT HOW WRONG IT IS..
If you are not doing that but deciding suddenly ´I am going to lock this thread´ is CENSORSHIP.
And also the indication that you have no idea about the issue..
It is like, ´I dont know what the hell you are talking about but I want to lock this subject anyway´
these posts starting with "look Mltm!!" and followed by "ok`s" remind me of the communication style of some certain type of people. when will you come up with the "be clever" warnings, thehandsom?
How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
these posts starting with "look Mltm!!" and followed by "ok`s" remind me of the communication style of some certain type of people. when will you come up with the "be clever" warnings, thehandsom?
these posts starting with "look Mltm!!" and followed by "ok`s" remind me of the communication style of some certain type of people. when will you come up with the "be clever" warnings, thehandsom?
How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
No one should favor any kind of inhuman, violent acts, however dedicating a thread just to show what inhuman acts have been done to some terrorists is not acceptable while these terrorists have been continously killing civils and innocent people in an inhuman way.
The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.
Now I am asking.
trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?
(btw. In the past I have witnessed many attempts by the government of Turkey that they were very very angry with the publications which published these stories..)
And these are the rules:
13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
İ agree with you,that most people who comes to this site to learn about Türkiye are foreigners,and who do this,who offer he information that we seek are the TURKS
Who offer translations,who offer personal experience,who give advice...etc that kind of things which you dont find in books nor google,thats why we come to site like this.
So you think that the site should be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks
And not taking Turksinto considerations ? the one who offer the information and teach us about history,cultural and language?!
What would you call that ?!
Havent you notice something from above posts and the other thread AE has just opened it ?
No one should favor any kind of inhuman, violent acts, however dedicating a thread just to show what inhuman acts have been done to some terrorists is not acceptable while these terrorists have been continously killing civils and innocent people in an inhuman way.
The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.
Now I am asking.
trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?
(btw. In the past I have witnessed many attempts by the government of Turkey that they were very very angry with the publications which published these stories..)
And these are the rules:
13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
Clearly my post is not violating above rules..
we will see if it is still be deleted..
Firstly, there is a comment of you in the start of the article you gave. You do not just give the article. You make a comparison with war crimes whilst it is NOT a war with this terrorist organization. It is a fight and a struggle against them to stop their crimes in a legal country.
And it is in the rules that the decision can base on "personal judgement". So, clearly your post can be locked or deleted.
Firstly, there is a comment of you in the start of the article you gave. You do not just give the article. You make a comparison with war crimes whilst it is NOT a war with this terrorist organization. It is a fight and a struggle against them to stop their crimes in a legal country.
And it is in the rules that the decision can base on "personal judgement". So, clearly your post can be locked or deleted.
I am telling you that it does not fall into the rules admin specified..
And you are saying that ´personal judgment´!!
Can you tell me how you managed to put it into items 13 and 14 in your personal judgment ?
I am telling you that it does not fall into the rules admin specified..
And you are saying that ´personal judgment´!!
Can you tell me how you managed to put it into items 13 and 14 in your personal judgment ?
I thought your english were better than mine. It can be deleted because you do not only put the article but you added your opinion and comment about it. And above all in the rules it says "even these" which include the articles and government decision not even your comment, can be removed.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
I thought your english were better than mine. It can be deleted because you do not only put the article but you added your opinion and comment about it. And above all in the rules it says "even these" which include the articles and government decision not even your comment, can be removed.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
It is not about PKK..
IT is about A TORTURE case..(It does not change the fact that it is done to a PKK member..Torture is torture)
I thought you would see that!!
If you think it is a torture case as no PKK is mentioned WHAT SO EVER will you open the thread?
As for Bush/İraq/US politics...etc its different story,you interfere in our affairs,invade our lands,and you dont want us to have a saying about it?!
So anything that occurs in OUR lands, maybe concerning Turks, Egyptians, Muslims in general, is only OUR concern? Great. Deal. No more comment about the politics, local and national, INSIDE other countries then. For example, if a government forbids scarfs, you are not allowed to discuss because it´s the concern of the government of THAT country and the people live in it.
Maybe I am just tired from the hurricane or perhaps I am just a "silly girl" but Roswitha has been critised for posting articles with no opinion.....now some people are being critised for posting articles with opinions.....are we saying that we can only post opinions with certain articles and not all articles and if so, may we have a list of articles that need an opinion and those that don´t....will somebody please translate what I just typed because I confused myself.....or should this be moved to another forum....I donnu....I am SO CONFUSED!!!
I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.
So anything that occurs in OUR lands, maybe concerning Turks, Egyptians, Muslims in general, is only OUR concern? Great. Deal. No more comment about the politics, local and national, INSIDE other countries then. For example, if a government forbids scarfs, you are not allowed to discuss because it´s the concern of the government of THAT country and the people live in it.
Quoting Elisabeth
Maybe I am just tired from the hurricane or perhaps I am just a "silly girl" but Roswitha has been critised for posting articles with no opinion.....now some people are being critised for posting articles with opinions.....are we saying that we can only post opinions with certain articles and not all articles and if so, may we have a list of articles that need an opinion and those that don´t....will somebody please translate what I just typed because I confused myself.....or should this be moved to another forum....I donnu....I am SO CONFUSED!!!
I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.
I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.
Just to clarify my stand on this issue: I personally disagree with the decision to forbid any topics, I don´t think what we had in the past was wrong. However, because of the overwhelming desire of many Turkish people on this site to not allow PKK as a topic, I respect the decision to do so.
Just to clarify my stand on this issue: I personally disagree with the decision to forbid any topics, I don´t think what we had in the past was wrong. However, because of the overwhelming desire of many Turkish people on this site to not allow PKK as a topic, I respect the decision to do so.
Awww...it must stink for you to be the Momma for all of us bed children that can´t get along!
Just to clarify my stand on this issue: I personally disagree with the decision to forbid any topics, I don´t think what we had in the past was wrong. However, because of the overwhelming desire of many Turkish people on this site to not allow PKK as a topic, I respect the decision to do so.
I would just like to add that I personally disagree with the decision as well. However, my personal opinion is not the issue here.
....will somebody please translate what I just typed because I confused myself.....or should this be moved to another forum....I donnu....I am SO CONFUSED!!!
Reading posts from Turks in the political section, I am constantly left with the feeling that this is not Turkish class at all, but some other country - a regime under harsh dictatorship!!
Strangely, those very people who wish to present a "good side" of Turkey to the world, are the ones who are the worst perpetrators!
The world already sees Turkey as it wishes. They see the good side when it suits their benefits.
And the main concern is to protect our values from defamations.
Strange - that rather contradicts your comment the other day that you don´t wish to see some topics discussed here amongst non-Turkish as you don´t want them to get a bad impression of Turkey...
Strange - that rather contradicts your comment the other day that you don´t wish to see some topics discussed here amongst non-Turkish as you don´t want them to get a bad impression of Turkey...
Wrong. Find me the part I said "I was worried about the bad image this site was giving to foreigners".
What I said before does not contradict with what I say now at all, because I said before that when very delicate topics are discussed, then foreigners who are not well informed and not familiar about the subject, can say easily offending and chaos creating things.
The world already sees Turkey as it wishes. They see the good side when it suits their benefits.
And the main concern is to protect our values from defamations.
Personally I see Turkey like I see every other country (including my own): it has marvellous, wonderful, great aspects and it has aspects I find horrible. Reading time after time that ahum... certain topics are not discussible makes the scale go down to awful. Your advertising campaign ´Hurrah for Turkey´ does not win an Oscar.....
when very delicate topics are discussed, then foreigners who are not well informed and not familiar about the subject, can say easily offending and chaos creating things.
Is your assertion that all foriegners are "not well informed" or is it only targeted at those who are in disagreement with you over certain topics?
when very delicate topics are discussed, then foreigners who are not well informed and not familiar about the subject, can say easily offending and chaos creating things.
Quoting girleegirl
Is your assertion that all foriegners are "not well informed" or is it only targeted at those who are in disagreement with you over certain topics?
and to add that surely contributing and being involved in a debate is part of the learning process and helps become more familiar with the subject .......hmmmm
Sounds like they´re going to get it all too if Bush gives the $700 billion dollars to bail out the financial institutions. I wonder if he´ll also offer to top up all those personal pensions that have reduced in value. Of course not.
The Netherlands ´will´ be represented at the next songfestival by a group of 3 men, De Toppers. If the song fits their personality, it is quite a representation of the Netherlands
And I know its hard to believe that one of them is not gay
The Netherlands ´will´ be represented at the next songfestival by a group of 3 men, De Toppers. If the song fits their personality, it is quite a representation of the Netherlands
And I know its hard to believe that one of them is not gay
De Toppers? Ouch...... there goes what´s left of our ´good´ reputation....
De Toppers? Ouch...... there goes what´s left of our ´good´ reputation....
Yes.. well I tend to think they are quite a ´real´ representation of Dutch music tradition though. But maybe that is because I am overall very pessimisticly stemmed on our national music tradition, so maybe I see it all too dark (or too purple for that matter!!)
Yes.. well I tend to think they are quite a ´real´ representation of Dutch music tradition though. But maybe that is because I am overall very pessimisticly stemmed on our national music tradition, so maybe I see it all too dark (or too purple for that matter!!)
Agree with you on the -part!
We do have better: Blof, Doe Maar, de Dijk, Jazzpolitie, etc. It´s not all that horrible!
We do have better: Blof, Doe Maar, de Dijk, Jazzpolitie, etc. It´s not all that horrible!
Doe Maar, you got a point there. I´m not a big fan of Blof and de Dijk, for some reason Dutch men get this weird pronounciation once they start to sing and it bothers me. They do have some good songs, but overall.. I dont know the Jazzpolitie.
Re-confirmed: studying while lying on bed does NOT work!
Believe me im studying at the dining table, to have some space for papers and laptop, well that doesnt work either. I severely and chronically suffer from the -im having my tea now instead of in 10 minutes-syndrome and -im having tea again-syndrome. It results in spending more time waiting for the water to boil than actual brain activity.
Believe me im studying at the dining table, to have some space for papers and laptop, well that doesnt work either. I severely and chronically suffer from the -im having my tea now instead of in 10 minutes-syndrome and -im having tea again-syndrome. It results in spending more time waiting for the water to boil than actual brain activity.
I guess it´s all about external factors then.... phew! (I was getting worried! )
I guess it´s all about external factors then.... phew! (I was getting worried! )
I managed to work in this ´environment´ nonstop for a small 2 hours though! Praised myself with a full glass of wine afterwards. Excellent combination I might say, a finished chapter and a glass of make-me-feel-better-liquid.
I managed to work in this ´environment´ nonstop for a small 2 hours though! Praised myself with a full glass of wine afterwards. Excellent combination I might say, a finished chapter and a glass of make-me-feel-better-liquid.
OMG... a glass of wine? Even I can tell you that this is NOT going to help you with studying!
Catwoman I feel it my duty to tell you that Meltem is nothing more than a cyber dudu and is USING YOU to get promotion and adminship!!!!
When will you wake up to this fact?
OMG.... are you serious??? She did mention it a couple times... but she also assured me that her feelings are genuine... although I do wonder why she wants a speedy marriage... OMG.. please someone tell me that this is just me being paranoid!
OMG.... are you serious??? She did mention it a couple times... but she also assured me that her feelings are genuine... although I do wonder why she wants a speedy marriage... OMG.. please someone tell me that this is just me being paranoid!
Cat....we all thought you were smarter than this....she is already asking for a chateau!!
Cat....we all thought you were smarter than this....she is already asking for a chateau!!
Stop it you evil, jealous.... She told me that it´s not for money that she loves me... The chateau is just a dream... not something that she has to have!
OMG.... are you serious??? She did mention it a couple times... but she also assured me that her feelings are genuine... although I do wonder why she wants a speedy marriage... OMG.. please someone tell me that this is just me being paranoid!
catwoman what did I tell you? It´s OUR relationship. Do not let anyone ruin it. We trust each other, we believe in each other. All this time along even if when I was not a moderator here, even at times I was mad at you, I was always fidel to this site, and indirectly to YOU. I have not felt these feelings for years, now it´s YOU I know it, the one for me.
My offer for a speedy marriage was only to make you believe in my love, that I´m serious about you, but if it´s what you want, I can give you as much as time you need. With all your suspicions I feel that you really need that time.
catwoman what did I tell you? It´s OUR relationship. Do not let anyone ruin it. We trust each other, we believe in each other. All this time along even if when I was not a moderator here, even at times I was mad at you, I was always fidel to this site, and indirectly to YOU. I have not felt these feelings for years, now it´s YOU I know it, the one for me.
My offer for a speedy marriage was only to make you believe in my love, that I´m serious about you, but if it´s what you want, I can give you as much as time you need. With all your suspicions I feel that you really need that time.
I am so sorry askim that I allowed all these people to put doubt in my mind... Please forgive me... It´s because I feel like all this is too good to be true...
I am so sorry askim that I allowed all these people to put doubt in my mind... Please forgive me... It´s because I feel like all this is too good to be true...
OK, I forgive because it´s excusable because I know that you have never felt such a love before. I´ll show you what true love is. Now please smile because when you smile, it reminds me of roses and I like roses.
OK, I forgive because it´s excusable because I know that you have never felt such a love before. I´ll show you what true love is. Now please smile because when you smile, it reminds me of roses and I like roses.
It seems you DO mind a great deal judging by your last few posts. If you can´t take it, don´t dish it out Sui and stop talking to us like we are morons.
Is it just me who thinks this, or is it because as a child you have no notion of the world and of diseases, or has cancer really ´spread´ ? I can count too many people in my environment who gave their last breath fighting it, or who are fighting it now.
Is it just me who thinks this, or is it because as a child you have no notion of the world and of diseases, or has cancer really ´spread´ ? I can count too many people in my environment who gave their last breath fighting it, or who are fighting it now.
So sorry you are having to see so much of this. It hurts to see people you love suffer so much. Maybe its just that when we get older, we see more sickness and death.
And if you also count the people we don´t love, but who suffer.. you will see quite a lot of suffereing in the world.... it is a harsh and cruel world
True and not so much for the suffering that we endure from natural disease processes....but the suffering we do at eachothers hands is what is really difficult to see.
It seems you DO mind a great deal judging by your last few posts. If you can´t take it, don´t dish it out Sui and stop talking to us like we are morons.
I was just earning two pennies... I am free to say my ideas... and that conversation was between me and Trudy...
plus i never called you names... just wanted to mention how irritating your way of speaking was to me... now let me stay in peace please...
I have just discovered George Carlin. He´s brilliant! I have been watching his shows for the last couple of days. Though it´s a pity that he just passed away this year
Hi Aenigma the queen !! I am the head of the welcome committee here as you very well know.
My greatest and warmest welcome to you!!!!
Please join the conversation!
Feel free to explore the site.
Uncover cool stories and news and participate in lively and friendly discussions that will force you to think about Turkey and other subjects . (No PKK though)
Be inspired, post something , and stake your place in the realm of turkish class.
And make sure you dont give any of your private information to anybody.
Specially your msn and tel (but if you want to, of course it is your decision)
BP´s Statistical Review of World Energy, published yesterday, appears to show that the world still has enough "proven" reserves to provide 40 years of consumption at current rates. The assessment, based on officially reported figures, has once again pushed back the estimate of when the world will run dry.
Dr Campbell, is a former chief geologist and vice-president at a string of oil majors including BP, Shell, Fina, Exxon and ChevronTexaco. He explains that the peak of regular oil - the cheap and easy to extract stuff - has already come and gone in 2005. Even when you factor in the more difficult to extract heavy oil, deep sea reserves, polar regions and liquid taken from gas, the peak will come as soon as 2011, he says.
If this is true we are totally unprepared for this! We can generate alternative forms of power (i.e. nuclear) but this does not power cars or provide gas. Nearly every manufactured product relies on oil
Those damn imperial Brits of the past They make the study of Middle Eastern a huge succession of self-interest treaties and reactionary revolts that are hard to seperate if you have come to read about a few. Pfff. And only one day left to the exam
It is.. I just opened it! It takes a little while to load, but it surely loads.
I get this message when I try to open your topic about visa & bf:
Not in Archive.
No archived versions of the page you requested are available. If the page is still available on the Internet, we will begin archiving it during our next crawl.
Is there a party somewhere? Is it that 70s/80s party?
Why did nobody invite me?
Teas and Sui are in the garden, catwoman is probably face down in a bowl of catnip, genuida is probably off having some clandestine meeting with various members of TC, DD is probably chaning a diaper, gg is out campaigning for Obama, handsom is most likely hacking into some government agency mainframe, Trudy is planning her next vacation, and lesluv is probably plotting her next post......and me.....I was taking a nap!
Teas and Sui are in the garden, catwoman is probably face down in a bowl of catnip, genuida is probably off having some clandestine meeting with various members of TC, DD is probably chaning a diaper, gg is out campaigning for Obama, handsom is most likely hacking into some government agency mainframe, Trudy is planning her next vacation, and lesluv is probably plotting her next post......and me.....I was taking a nap!
god very freaky......i was but i think you are wrong about trudy the handsom and gg.....
Teas and Sui are in the garden, catwoman is probably face down in a bowl of catnip, genuida is probably off having some clandestine meeting with various members of TC, DD is probably chaning a diaper, gg is out campaigning for Obama, handsom is most likely hacking into some government agency mainframe, Trudy is planning her next vacation, and lesluv is probably plotting her next post......and me.....I was taking a nap!
Oh great, why did I get to have least fun? Send me to the beach at once Lizzie!
BTW, my boobs are way bigger too than those allegedly belonging to GG - please remember about that sending me to that sandy place
After heavy thinking and debating the pros and cons of becoming a muslim versus becoming a pastafarian, I have chosen the latter... I advise you to do the same. You can check out our manifesto here: Pastafarian Commandments.
After heavy thinking and debating the pros and cons of becoming a muslim versus becoming a pastafarian, I have chosen the latter... I advise you to do the same. You can check out our manifesto here: Pastafarian Commandments.
Welcome to my religion! Now we just have to convert the others
It´s impossible to keep up with TC - butterflies, balls, blondes who think freely. What´s going on? Is TC sponsored by letter B? even bsb has been mentioned several times recently.
It´s impossible to keep up with TC - butterflies, balls, blondes who think freely. What´s going on? Is TC sponsored by letter B? even bsb has been mentioned several times recently.
It´s impossible to keep up with TC - butterflies, balls, blondes who think freely. What´s going on? Is TC sponsored by letter B? even bsb has been mentioned several times recently.
We are running out of countries to accuse of genocide! Could it be that people are just really crappy (would love to use a much stronger word....however, THE MODS!!!) to eachother?
Boredom or all the sheep bleating has got the better of thehandsom and he has logged in today! Don´t tell me you found an internet cafe in the middle of the Welsh countryside? ............................ no NO NO NO........ you never came across a Take A Break reader who has bought you a laptop with wireless internet???????????????
Boredom or all the sheep bleating has got the better of thehandsom and he has logged in today! Don´t tell me you found an internet cafe in the middle of the Welsh countryside? ............................ no NO NO NO........ you never came across a Take A Break reader who has bought you a laptop with wireless internet???????????????
Come on, have more trust in TheHandsom! I´m sure he made a country generator powered by sheep and used the laptop he had hidden from his family to convince then he was NOT addicted to the Internet (TC in particular)
We are running out of countries to accuse of genocide! Could it be that people are just really crappy (would love to use a much stronger word....however, THE MODS!!!) to eachother?
I did not have time to thoroughly inspect, but I think Bosnia has not been mentioned recently, so there, new day, new topic
rich and poor,so great topic for talk about during daysso no worries i like every single word about whats or what isn´tbut i will try to catch you last fridays of every month
HALIT is paying me no attention AT ALL for the past hour
I must be losing my touch
AENIGMA
Our very young and intelligent and sublimely beautiful sister from UK
So who is MargaretPetson and what is her great attraction??? Maybe you should start a thread - ´Desperately Seeking MargaretPetson´ - maybe?
Bady in Bed
Good and openminded and experienced sister and moderator with the power to delete posts, originally from UK but now living in Turkey and formally known as ´Lady in Red´
Maybe you should start a thread - ´Desperately Seeking MargaretPetson´ - maybe?
Bady in Bed
Good and openminded and experienced sister and moderator with the power to delete posts, originally from UK but now living in Turkey and formally known as ´Lady in Red´
I would, but today I am a bit scared you might delete it
AENIGMA
“Our very young and intelligent” and sublimely beautiful, but rather scared of mods today, sister from UK
Me too! Do you think he is using Yilgun´s list as a reference?
Bady in Bed Good and openminded and experienced sister and moderator with the power to delete posts, originally from UK but now living in Turkey and formally known as ´Lady in Red´
Come on, have more trust in TheHandsom! I´m sure he made a country generator powered by sheep and used the laptop he had hidden from his family to convince then he was NOT addicted to the Internet (TC in particular)
Yes, the one he had hidden in the outdoor dunny The roll of andrex gave the game away
I sent a pm to thehandsome while you were gone and asked if you two were related he said no, not really..then asked him how he came up with his nick, he stated... Unlike thehandsom, I am really handsome .. I told him the verdict was still out, since I haven´t seen a pic of either of you..
I sent a pm to thehandsome while you were gone and asked if you two were related he said no, not really..then asked him how he came up with his nick, he stated... Unlike thehandsom, I am really handsome .. I told him the verdict was still out, since I haven´t seen a pic of either of you..
The one with an e HAD a picture for a short time. Did he delete it because he was afraid?
Now this is getting quite silly..There is also ´thehansom´..I even got confused myself
OK - now listen carefully - YOU are the ORIGINAL version of the various handsom/hansoms. You are known to be very hairy, a a bit of a big flirt and somewhat of an anti-nationalist.
If you want to know what you look like pm me as I took a copy of your original photo! (and of course I have the holiday snaps as well!  
Hey, I placed my bid....that does include shipping as well? Also, is that a wallet or 8x10? All I see is hair.......
Now hold on a minute - we´re getting a bit confused here. The ebay collection was lesluv´s sapýk spam to thehandsomE. I think they´re already open to bidding so you may have won them!
I hadn´t thought of putting up the holiday snaps - I will remove all the ones of me and Trudy and put thehandsom´s up immediately. However, if you´d care to make me a private offer via pm I am sure we can come to some arrangement
Now hold on a minute - we´re getting a bit confused here. The ebay collection was lesluv´s sapýk spam to thehandsomE. I think they´re already open to bidding so you may have won them!
and it was an original piece..... not mass generated (yet)
The evil Brits and bed American members are really living up to our shallow reputation lately. While I notice that Turks continue to debate genocide in Iraq and Schimmel, we are absorbed in wet Mr. Darcys, the Three Handsom(e)s and sapik PMs on e-bay!
The evil Brits and bed American members are really living up to our shallow reputation lately. While I notice that Turks continue to debate genocide in Iraq and Schimmel, we are absorbed in wet Mr. Darcys, the Three Handsom(e)s and sapik PMs on e-bay!
You know, club membership (SSDandL) obliges you to certain duties and responsibilities...
*wonders if she should buy a Take a Break magazine*
But, how could you, how could you do that mistake? (after pregnancy, hormone levels up and down etc?)..
Well yeah, hormons and bottle feeding with one hand, the other on my touchpad...anyone could have made that mistake. Really. Still it is embarrassing. I promise to check out the post count before replying again!
Now hold on a minute - we´re getting a bit confused here. The ebay collection was lesluv´s sapýk spam to thehandsomE. I think they´re already open to bidding so you may have won them!
I hadn´t thought of putting up the holiday snaps - I will remove all the ones of me and Trudy and put thehandsom´s up immediately. However, if you´d care to make me a private offer via pm I am sure we can come to some arrangement
You mean to tell me, I placed a bid for thehandsomE pics instead? I can´t seem to locate the handsom´s pics, what did you post it under?
well teas.. You dont need to bid for my pictures.. I am pming you about them
- we are talking about the pictures I TOOK! - You didn´t know about them! . And I am waiting for teaschip´s pm so we can come to some private arrangement!
Somebody took compromising pics of handsom AGAIN!!? For God´s sake, man! Put some clothes on will you? Stop parading around TC in nothing but your skin!
Somebody took compromising pics of handsom AGAIN!!? For God´s sake, man! Put some clothes on will you? Stop parading around TC in nothing but your skin!
nothing to regret LIZ.....OMG.....cameras stop working with thehairy..cannot manage this impressive shot..haha...
While I am so incredibly proud of my country for moving beyond intolerance and racial ugliness in our historic election tonight, I am equally embarrassed by my home state of California, where, as of this hour, we are passing a law to ban gay marriage.
What a vivid contrast in tolerance and hope for equality for ALL people.
I can only hope that the results will change through the night.
While I am so incredibly proud of my country for moving beyond intolerance and racial ugliness in our historic election tonight, I am equally embarrassed by my home state of California, where, as of this hour, we are passing a law to ban gay marriage.
are you serious???!!! are they reversing that law?
are you serious???!!! are they reversing that law?
Oh yeah...unfortunately I´m serious. So far the ban is passing. It is a disgusting show of intolerance, bigotry, hatred, fear of differences and discrimination that still lives.
Oh yeah...unfortunately I´m serious. So far the ban is passing. It is a disgusting show of intolerance, bigotry, hatred, fear of differences and discrimination that still lives.
well... I think that this particular type of hatred is quite tightly related to our lovely religious, twisted morality.
After everything I have been dealing with since this morning:
I go out to get a quick sandwich; go to the cafe; and ...phew..I have only 2 pounds
walk 200 meters to the cash point;
phew..only one of the hole in the wall is in operation with 28 people in the line
wait for 10 mins;
try to get some money and the bloody machine refuses..
walk into the bank ; qeueu again..
the guy asks me ´have you been on holiday recently?´
they blocked the card because i used it in wales!!
he tells me to phone the main office;
I ask him to land me a fiver for my lunch;
he gives me some money after asking my mother´s maiden name..
and I finally eat my sandwich.
phew!!!
what is next today?
being chased by a polar bear?
Now that is a question!
My day started at 5:30,
6:30 Leave home
6:53 catch train to London,
8:45 catch underground to Liverpool St, more underground to Stratford,
9:30 wait outside station in cold,
9:45 get minibus to Quatermile Lane (the Olympic Park)
10:30 do presentation to Environmental Managers on the site
12:30 try and fend off loads of questions
12:45 catch bus back to Stratford
13:00 get underground blah blah blah
13:45 catch train home
Bolt a very "tasty" not just a sandwich but an M&S sandwich and some exborbitantly priced fruit nicely cut into bike size pieces by poorly paid migrant workers
15:45 arrive home exhausted
16:00 cup of well earned tea
and now I should be writing a report for my boss ....................................
So, the moral of this story? thehandsom you are not alone in your manic day!
After everything I have been dealing with since this morning:
I go out to get a quick sandwich; go to the cafe; and ...phew..I have only 2 pounds
walk 200 meters to the cash point;
phew..only one of the hole in the wall is in operation with 28 people in the line
wait for 10 mins;
try to get some money and the bloody machine refuses..
walk into the bank ; qeueu again..
the guy asks me ´have you been on holiday recently?´
they blocked the card because i used it in wales!!
he tells me to phone the main office;
I ask him to land me a fiver for my lunch;
he gives me some money after asking my mother´s maiden name..
and I finally eat my sandwich.
phew!!!
what is next today?
being chased by a polar bear?
Quoting libralady
Now that is a question!
My day started at 5:30,
6:30 Leave home
6:53 catch train to London,
8:45 catch underground to Liverpool St, more underground to Stratford,
9:30 wait outside station in cold,
9:45 get minibus to Quatermile Lane (the Olympic Park)
10:30 do presentation to Environmental Managers on the site
12:30 try and fend off loads of questions
12:45 catch bus back to Stratford
13:00 get underground blah blah blah
13:45 catch train home
Bolt a very "tasty" not just a sandwich but an M&S sandwich and some exborbitantly priced fruit nicely cut into bike size pieces by poorly paid migrant workers
15:45 arrive home exhausted
16:00 cup of well earned tea
and now I should be writing a report for my boss ....................................
So, the moral of this story? thehandsom you are not alone in your manic day!
Oh my commiserations to both of you!
Let me see - my day today hmmm....
9.00 a.m. - Got up (bit late I must admit but didn´t go to bed til 2.00 a.m. last night)
9.30 a.m. - Breakfast on the balcony - temperature roughly 26 at the moment
10.00 a.m. - Quick look at TC, msn and emails
10.30 a.m. - wandered across to the bank to transfer some money
11.00 a.m. - sitting with a friend on her balcony enjoying a cup of coffee and a chat
12.30 a.m. - back home for lunch (on the balcony!)
2.00. p.m. - wandered down to the town to pay my electriciy bill (42ytl for the month! - yikes its gone up )
2.30 pm. - sitting by the marina eating an icecream
4.00 p.m. - visited another friend married to a Turk and sat in their restaurant for an hour or so catching up on the gossip
5.00 p.m. - back home, made a cake
6.30 p.m. - checking in on TC, msn again
(not every day is like this, generally I have some housework and shopping to do but not today!!)
Now, wait until Aenigma comes and posts something like:
´LL is feeling crappy in these days..How old is she? menapouse?´
Never - LL works very hard and has a very responsible job.
Whereas you...... you play around on TC all day and have some poor aspiring man, probably highly intelligent, under paid and employed as an "IT assistant/administrator", who you refer to as "office boy" and who probably secretly despises you and is, as I type, spitting in the coffee you just insisted he make for you.....
wow.. my day today is soo easy! Thursday is the nicest day of the week!
ive got it easy!
7:00 am--wake up
7:45 am-- be at school
7:45-8:00--run away from teachers who wan t su to stand in the stupid morning assembly sayong the stupid national anthem
8;00-9:45-- English with the craziest teachr int eh world shes so old too! and gets mad when you call her Ms. or Mrs. she says its DR!!! But none of us are used to our teachers being doctores(this year all our tachers are doctors in their subject)
9;45-11:00 am--break plus PE
11:00-12:00--supposed to have a quiz but it was canceled so they sent us up to our class and we did nthg
12:00-1:30-- Biology with the strictest docotr in the world too! hes so strict we all sit like dogs in his session! Nobody makes a peep!And OMG if he asks u a question i practially faint every single time! But if i tell u about him ill never stop and he makes the Hardsedt exams EVER! But hes the best Bio teachr in Egypt really At the end of the year everybody gets (who took with him) A*
1:30--end of school day (thursdays are half days {but only our class})
1:30-3:30--stay at home watching Tv
3:30-- go to school with my mom coz today was a parent teacher meeting and we were going to get our monthly rerprots so i was worrying like OMG OMG!
3;30-5:00--at school, can you belioeve i got 72% in bio??? BUt guess what? that was an A!!!!! I was soo ahppy, because theres a curve, dependign on how hard the exam is, a certain no of ppl ahve to get A´s and a ceertain no has to get B´s, anyway, my mom was pleased so im pleased coz i can do whatever i want and ill get spoiled for a couple of days
LOOOOL!!you know what taht remýnds me of: my brotherö when he wants to wake up earlyö he knows that he wont wake up ö so he sets all the alarms ýn the house on all the mobýles and he makes them one mýnute apart so he make sures that someone ýs goýng to get up and wake hým! It gets on my nerves! I mean ý go and trn off my mobýle and then one mýnute later after ý had just gotten cozy agaýn ýt rýngs!!!! OUFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!
He´s still there - pming away Do you think someone should pm him telling him not to bother??
Do u think hes seeing this? OMg if i was him and i saw it and didnt leave or delete myself, id have no shame lol! i hope he sees it and gets embaressed
Do u think hes seeing this? OMg if i was him and i saw it and didnt leave or delete myself, id have no shame lol! i hope he sees it and gets embaressed
Nope, still busy spamming. (It´s a job as well.... )
Nobody noticed that my typos have become a lot less? Ive been trying! See my last couple of posts ! But not the ones on this forum
lol! U know this sounds like a commercial!
Sorry, Doudi, you´ve asked it: no, I did not notice because it is not true. Taht, nthg, u, ur, presidnt, ahve, dotn are still your favorite words I guess....
Sorry, Doudi, you´ve asked it: no, I did not notice because it is not true. Taht, nthg, u, ur, presidnt, ahve, dotn are still your favorite words I guess....
AAAAAHH!!! give me a wall to bang my head against! Abbreviations dont count!
lol, Trudy! U can read and understand my language! Maybe i should make a language and call it Doudi lanuage and make a site for teaching it
AAAAAHH!!! give me a wall to bang my head against! Abbreviations dont count!
lol, Trudy! U can read and understand my language! Maybe i should make a language and call it Doudi lanuage and make a site for teaching it
Yes, I can read your posts. But like DK said before, I find it annoying when someone uses an abbreviation almost every three words (and I know I am not the only one).
Yes, I can read your posts. But like DK said before, I find it annoying when someone uses an abbreviation almost every three words (and I know I am not the only one).
And there he is....still innocently PMing away. Not knowing that there is a whole conversation about him going on just over to the left. Poor soul. He is clueless. Should I tell him?
And there he is....still innocently PMing away. Not knowing that there is a whole conversation about him going on just over to the left. Poor soul. He is clueless.
And there he is....still innocently PMing away. Not knowing that there is a whole conversation about him going on just over to the left. Poor soul. He is clueless. Should I tell him?
Please do so, GG, but be gentle with him or you get complaints by The Committee Of Protecting New Spamming Members (the TCOPNSM).
So we are not allowed to talk about spammers now????!?!?!
Oh dear - and I was one of the first to start talking about him......I didn´t know I had to warn him, I thought spammers were generally self-destructing
(and I also thought that I was your favourite mod aenigma )
Oh dear - and I was one of the first to start talking about him......I didn´t know I had to warn him, I thought spammers were generally self-destructing
(and I also thought that I was your favourite mod aenigma )
Double-posting again??? You can leave them if you like and I´ll delete them for you - I would like to feel I might be saving you from chronic alcoholism
Double-posting again??? You can leave them if you like and I´ll delete them for you - I would like to feel I might be saving you from chronic alcoholism
Yes I don´t know why I keep doing it. I am not hitting the send button more than once. I appreciate you saving me from drinking so much by offering to delete my extra posts.....that is very "mod-ly" of you.
´An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman went into a bar......................
This site has recently become way too biased against Irishmen. British Imperialist, you are requested to stop! The Irish might be using a weird variety of what they call English, they may love black pudding for breakfast and, yes, they may even consider Lonsdale Sports Clothes fashionable and park their cars at roundabouts, on double yellow lines and generally everywhere else be it a pavement or a lawn. Yet they shouldn´t be subject for jokes here. It is a Turkish Forum and Turks should be laughed at.
So, An Englishman, A Turk and a Scotsman went into a bar............
This site has recently become way too biased against Irishmen. British Imperialist, you are requested to stop! The Irish might be using a weird variety of what they call English, they may love black pudding for breakfast and, yes, they may even consider Lonsdale Sports Clothes fashionable and park their cars at roundabouts, on double yellow lines and generally everywhere else be it a pavement or a lawn. Yet they shouldn´t be subject for jokes here. It is a Turkish Forum and Turks should be laughed at.
So, An Englishman, A Turk and a Scotsman went into a bar............
(you´d think one of them might have seen it!)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr DD
You made me laugh out loud whilst my boss was talking to me about something....(don´t ask me waht, I wasn´t really listening) really important!!!!!
This site has recently become way too biased against Irishmen. British Imperialist, you are requested to stop! The Irish might be using a weird variety of what they call English, they may love black pudding for breakfast and, yes, they may even consider Lonsdale Sports Clothes fashionable and park their cars at roundabouts, on double yellow lines and generally everywhere else be it a pavement or a lawn. Yet they shouldn´t be subject for jokes here. It is a Turkish Forum and Turks should be laughed at.
So, An Englishman, A Turk and a Scotsman went into a bar............
(you´d think one of them might have seen it!)
I actually though (apart from the black pudding) that you were describing a Turk here!
So we are not allowed to talk about spammers now????!?!?!
Quoting lady in red
Oh dear - and I was one of the first to start talking about him......I didn´t know I had to warn him, I thought spammers were generally self-destructing
(and I also thought that I was your favourite mod aenigma )
I was in kind mood last night and thought I would give the chap a chance........... but to no avail, never mind, I am going to stop being nice
Aha! But I will be wearing my lucky Fener Shirt (our secret weapon)
Hadi Fenerrrrrrrr hadiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
I may be wrong but I am sure in one of your previous incarnations (and there have been so many of you ) you posted one time that Fener only won when you WEREN´T wearing your lucky shirt. Or was that Turkey only scored when you took your lucky Turkey shirt off? Or maybe I´m just dreaming the whole thing.
Anyway good luck to them anyway and hopefully we will be watching it on the ´telly´!
I may be wrong but I am sure in one of your previous incarnations (and there have been so many of you ) you posted one time that Fener only won when you WEREN´T wearing your lucky shirt. Or was that Turkey only scored when you took your lucky Turkey shirt off? Or maybe I´m just dreaming the whole thing.
Anyway good luck to them anyway and hopefully we will be watching it on the ´telly´!
You seem to have a problem with my posting quota LIR - are there new forum rules about it now?
Actually, I noticed that when I WATCHED Turkey playing the world cup, they didn´t play so well, so had to stop watching. So yeah, you were dreaming about the shirt.
You seem to have a problem with my posting quota LIR - are there new forum rules about it now?
Actually, I noticed that when I WATCHED Turkey playing the world cup, they didn´t play so well, so had to stop watching. So yeah, you were dreaming about the shirt.
Love you too.....
My post about your posts was a genuine congratulations on your dedication! Are you implying I was being sarcastic?? I am very hurt that you should think so
Hey how do you add pictures? I couldn´t get it to work.
Offffff I will regret this..... ok it is much easier now. When you find the picture you just right click on the mouse and "copy" and then just "paste" it into here.
If you ever watched Turkish teams (and fans) in an important match, you would never say that again
Turkish fans are the best in the world
Actually I never liked football that much untill I was stuck for nearly a year surrounded by guys and a television that seemed to have turned green since the day they bought Lig Tv. Which bothered me in the beginning.. but then I finally learnt to understand the game and when you support a team it is REALLY fun and exciting to watch!!
And you are definitely right when it comes to Turkish fans.
I just got my computer formatted so all the office things are 2007, and i cant do any of the ICT hw!!!! Because we take evrything 2003, because that what the Uk gov. says!! Im soo completely lost!!! I cant do anything, whatever, Mr Sheref said we cant use 2007 anyway! I cant do anything! I feel soo ignorant!
I just got my computer formatted so all the office things are 2007, and i cant do any of the ICT hw!!!! Because we take evrything 2003, because that what the Uk gov. says!! Im soo completely lost!!! I cant do anything, whatever, Mr Sheref said we cant use 2007 anyway! I cant do anything! I feel soo ignorant!
Sounds like a good and valid reason for a party or just a lazy night tonight
I was just about to answer each one of them with "Yes I can but I won´t" but later on decided that I´m not THAT bored and, besides, somebody might consider it bullying
Amazing number of posts from Anka.. Any user from the past who would post with this speed?
i knew only one member: aenigma. she types with the speed of light, i mean she reads it faster than the light speed. often happent i just posted something and there already was a respond. speedy gonzalez
i knew only one member: aenigma. she types with the speed of light, i mean she reads it faster than the light speed. often happent i just posted something and there already was a respond. speedy gonzalez
havent met anyone that fast yet.
...not only that! When you look, she doesn´t even appear to be logged in!!! (maybe she is posting from a parallel universe  
...not only that! When you look, she doesn´t even appear to be logged in!!! (maybe she is posting from a parallel universe  
who knows? !
when you log in, ok? theres no aenigma, ok? and you read forums, right? you post something? you see her response right there, and you quickly check the logged in members, theresnt aenigma. i donno how she does that. maybe shes indeed not from our world?
when you log in, ok? theres no aenigma, ok? and you read forums, right? you post something? you see her response right there, and you quickly check the logged in members, theresnt aenigma. i donno how she does that. maybe shes indeed not from our world?
when you log in, ok? theres no aenigma, ok? and you read forums, right? you post something? you see her response right there, and you quickly check the logged in members, theresnt aenigma. i donno how she does that. maybe shes indeed not from our world?
I made a promise to myself to start checking member galeries after reading Teas´s post-birthday post. I wanted to see her porch and..I saw her! I could have checked her user profile BEFORE I humiliated myself in public writing nonsensical description of users. She´s NOTHING I imagined (to her benefit I must admit)
I made a promise to myself to start checking member galeries after reading Teas´s post-birthday post. I wanted to see her porch and..I saw her! I could have checked her user profile BEFORE I humiliated myself in public writing nonsensical description of users. She´s NOTHING I imagined (to her benefit I must admit)
I was meaning to look up Ann of Green Gables...I don´t have a flag in my yard or drink beer...but give me a Jim Beam and Coke and I´m good to go..
This thing came out last year, and teh truth is i used to watch it and cry, they call it the arabic conscience, but it should be called the world conscience!!!!!
(All these parts are 1 thing but each is 10 minutes long, the thing is 30 minjutes)
(Oh yeah, all imagesd are real, nthg edited or anything, or made i emna , REAL LIFE IMAGES!!)
BTW these are 3parts only and theyre supposed to be 5!!!
If anybody finds them on Youtube plz tell me, and alot of th emanings of the words tehyers aying is lost in the translation, cause really u cant put the escence of what tehyre saying in english , really you cant.
And if u aaw it on Tv it would be much more tragic! I think they cut out some scenes here(and the graphics dont really help)
and on Tv the things were ordered chronologically, it doesnt show here coz the translation!
I found the full one but no translations, i think they cut out some stuff! I guess the really horrible stuff that came on Tv they took out, and i guess u guys wouldnt reslly feel it ciz all the poeple they get talking 1) they re not translating what they say and that teh most tragic thing 2) and these peole taht they get each had a story, taht used to coem on the news and stuff, and this video came at a time when lebanon was being bombed and stuff.. so yeah, i used to sit infront of the Tv watch this shake and cry!!!! EVERY DAY!!!!!!! but i guess u wouldnt feel what there saying and the graphics are terrible too
This thing came out last year, and teh truth is i used to watch it and cry, they call it the arabic conscience, but it should be called the world conscience!!!!!
(All these parts are 1 thing but each is 10 minutes long, the thing is 30 minjutes)
(Oh yeah, all imagesd are real, nthg edited or anything, or made i emna , REAL LIFE IMAGES!!)
BTW these are 3parts only and theyre supposed to be 5!!!
If anybody finds them on Youtube plz tell me, and alot of th emanings of the words tehyers aying is lost in the translation, cause really u cant put the escence of what tehyre saying in english , really you cant.
And if u aaw it on Tv it would be much more tragic! I think they cut out some scenes here(and the graphics dont really help)
and on Tv the things were ordered chronologically, it doesnt show here coz the translation!
I found the full one but no translations, i think they cut out some stuff! I guess the really horrible stuff that came on Tv they took out, and i guess u guys wouldnt reslly feel it ciz all the poeple they get talking 1) they re not translating what they say and that teh most tragic thing 2) and these peole taht they get each had a story, taht used to coem on the news and stuff, and this video came at a time when lebanon was being bombed and stuff.. so yeah, i used to sit infront of the Tv watch this shake and cry!!!! EVERY DAY!!!!!!! but i guess u wouldnt feel what there saying and the graphics are terrible too
too bad!
OKAY OKAY!! Defintely watch the bottom one! Its better! IKt gets the thing from the beggining!
If anybody ahs any questions about anything like wht the guy is saying in the begging feel free to ask!
Oh yeah and that part witht the old guy wearing a fezz playing on that pregnant guitar thing (dont know the name) is telling like a wisdom his father told him a long time ago so yeah.... ehmm..
Of course he will! He has liked ALL the laptops you have sent so far, hasn´t he?
No....he wasn´t happy with one of them...it didn´t have the latest toys on it so he bitterly complained. I told him how sorry I was and how I wasn´t worthy of such a good dudu. He managed to forgive me and we have moved past it. (I think the iPhone helped.)
Are you saying that all kittens are fluffy and cute? Haven´t you ever seen an ugly kitten? Why do all kittens have to be cute? Aren´t you holding them up to a "dog" standard? Kittens should not have to live by a dog expectations, you know!!
Are you saying that all kittens are fluffy and cute? Haven´t you ever seen an ugly kitten? Why do all kittens have to be cute? Aren´t you holding them up to a "dog" standard? Kittens should not have to live by a dog expectations, you know!!
And i better go to bed now before further colours been added
Have a good day
Ps:For some reason i thought you were American,but your ´colourful´ instead of ´colorful´ said other wise,i guess you still can distinguish the Britsh English from the American English after all
And i better go to bed now before further colours been added
Have a good day
Ps:For some reason i thought you were American,but your ´colourful´ instead of ´colorful´ said other wise,i guess you still can distinguish the Britsh English from the American English after all
outed by one letter..... I nearly got away with it ha ha
I was browsing the net on my new phone today and wondered what TC would look like on such a small screen. However, when I tried to load it, the message came up:-
"Turkish Language Class is an adult site. To access this site you will need to call your provider to change the settings"
OMG! Are there hitherto undiscovered naked photos of thehandsom lurking around on this site somewhere?
There are hundreds of new members every month! Most never seem to post a single thing, or even use the language section. They seem to come here and start PMing!!!!
Are there REALLY that many spammers?
And who is Captain Garbage?
My theory? They are deleted spammers and AKA´s of other members who come here to meet others without their online gf/bf knowing
Well isn´t this just so cute...we now have a girIeegirI. Talk about lack of originality. We have idiots trolling the chat rooms and imbeciles playing name games.
Where are the parents of these children....shouldnt they be monitoring when they are using the computer?
Well isn´t this just so cute...we now have a girIeegirI. Talk about lack of originality. We have idiots trolling the chat rooms and imbeciles playing name games.
Where are the parents of these children....shouldnt they be monitoring when they are using the computer?
one of them is a psychology student, doing a phd in virtual reality... or at least so she says.
A quick glance at the posts of someone who complains of being insulted with the word "paranoid"...
Quoting armegon
thehandsom, i began to think you have some problems of remembering,
Quoting armegon
Ohh Eli the silly joke queen, if i need some flattering, i will bow down to the gang but definately im always oppositinal ....
Quoting armegon
So instead of advising me to read the stories you mentioned and trying to display how intellectuel you are, firstly you need to learn to read carefully...
Quoting armegon
An avarage Brit cant say anything to this because of a fear of being called racist and facist so they got bored much. I was labelled racist here many times in fact im not racist and no relation with them , but then i understood they call every Turk or everyone like that if they dont like their thoughts. In case there is much pressure on them, there is no freedom of speech for this poor people to say what they think. They think freedom is to drink drugs, can sleep each night with different man/woman, wearing ridiculous cloths bla bla, even they dont know the meaning of freedom.
What on earth is going on here? And how has the issue about insults turned into yet another east-west war?
Catwoman please clarify something that Trudy mentioned in another post. Posts were recently deleted because someone took offence to the word "paranoid" because the comment suggested they were mentally ill. If this is the case, please tell us why you make available a smiley that means "you are crazy" . Could this also imply someone is mentally ill?
Perhaps you would clarify exactly what we may post now. Until then, I think it is a bit tiresome to continue here.
Someone did not get offended, that someone replied in the same way, but realised only his post was deleted. Do you have reading?
Shall I take offense that your comment implies I am unable to read? Armegon I refuse to join in with this argument. I did not see the original posts, I only know what happened from Canli´s and Catwoman´s comments and from Catwoman´s change to the forum rules.
Someone did not get offended, that someone replied in the same way, but realised only his post was deleted. Do you have reading?
Armegon you are still after your deleted message whereas you should know that it contained a clear personal attack. The message was also restored on condition that you must edit it. Thehandsom´s however remained deleted although the personal attack claim focusing on the word "paranoid" is very weak to say the least.
You should know that many of my messages were deleted in the past too. I never resented as much as you are doing now. There is a process of cooling down and waking up to reality about yours and others manners. I am still expecting this to happen to you.
The whoooooooooooole school todat had this huge fun day and id sall these activities and stuff cuase of Thanksgiving!!!
But of course the british section nooooooooo
why miss? Why them???
well, the brits didnt have pilgrims etc etc, so no huge party for you! Go sit down and listen to your teacher!
As if we could concentrate with all the music and stuff!
(BTW the british section is only highschool, but you can get american education from kindergarten!! :@!!)
Ok, I am sitting down and listening to the Sterophonics - not the teachers !! So what are you saying you could not join in the Thanksgiving? That is for the Americans, the British, we dont have such trivial stuff! We just have Christmas and with the state of the economy, we will be cooking sparrows for dinner............... no Turkey
The whoooooooooooole school todat had this huge fun day and id sall these activities and stuff cuase of Thanksgiving!!!
But of course the british section nooooooooo
why miss? Why them???
well, the brits didnt have pilgrims etc etc, so no huge party for you! Go sit down and listen to your teacher!
As if we could concentrate with all the music and stuff!
(BTW the british section is only highschool, but you can get american education from kindergarten!! :@!!)
Ermm....forgive me if I´m wrong here but weren´t the Pilgrim Fathers originally from England and weren´t they welcomed by the Native Americans of the time? So the American section of your school should have been welcoming the British section to a nice meal of Roast Turkey! - You should have been honoured guests at the party!
I can´t help it. I am a Fatihtarian - like all TC regulars
Canim.... you are a pastafarian and stop converting so often, or you will go to hell from all these religions!! And there´s no such thing as "fatihtarianism", there is only "bitanemism" and you ain´t in it, ok?
Ermm....forgive me if I´m wrong here but weren´t the Pilgrim Fathers originally from England and weren´t they welcomed by the Native Americans of the time? So the American section of your school should have been welcoming the British section to a nice meal of Roast Turkey! - You should have been honoured guests at the party!
OMG! You know thast soooo true!!!´
ill tell them that on saturday
what i cant believe is that todays thursday and im at home! :@
but for some reason i dont tknow why everybody is soo depressed this weekend, almost none of us are goin out (maybe cause we have exams next week
dont ask me why, today i had the wierdest mixturees of feelings! Like i wanted to hit somebody and cry at the same time! It was FREAKY!
Last thursday it was my friends birthday, she ad it at this cafe, okay, so i thought it would be like a normal cafe etc etc
I swera to god, (first of all, at the door there are people, and they ask you who are you going in to see, so i told him my friends name etc etc , teh guys aid 2nd floor and we have to pay this fee to get in{its not a small one miht i add!})anyway, i was goung up the stairs and all i could hear wa sthis pounding music, and the place smelled like cigarettes omg i couldnt breathe, and we were like teh younest people there, turns out it was her brothers idea (her brothers a senior) and the whole place was filled with seniors and theyw ere dancing and the place was full of hot girls and mini skirts in the middle of the winter
This si what happened>> The boys sat down and watched the older girls (loooool!!) or went ina nd danced witht them even though lets say some of tem got deply embaressed
girls>>we sat down, couldnt even hear each other taljkign and we were all pissed off and shouting at her brother lol it wasnt fun at allllllllll! just a lkittle thpugh but not soo much !
so that was a partial waste of a weekend, but at least i saw somewhere new !
(i was gonna suffocvate in there i swear we couldnt breathe!)
A lot of the translation requests lately seem to be introduction messages from websites or first "getting to know you" type messages.
I don´t really understand why girls would go to Turkish chat rooms/websites and want to meet men who don´t speak their language at all!!! I can (almost) understand the ones who met men on holidays and have communication problems, but to actively seek out someone who you are unable to communicate with? Madness!
..... what makes it worse is that one of them (or should I say "two" of them) appear to be "married to a Turk". Is it a case of "when the cat´s away, the mouse will play"?
..... what makes it worse is that one of them (or should I say "two" of them) appear to be "married to a Turk". Is it a case of "when the cat´s away, the mouse will play"?
No, of course not. You don´t see it. It´s a ´scientific´ research of the faithfullness of Turkish men....
..... what makes it worse is that one of them (or should I say "two" of them) appear to be "married to a Turk". Is it a case of "when the cat´s away, the mouse will play"?
Have often been thinking ´they´ used to be ´3´ though!
A lot of the translation requests lately seem to be introduction messages from websites or first "getting to know you" type messages.
- Madness!
Another thing I dont understand is, there are many messages these days were girls have ´accidentally´ received mails from their lovers, or ´accidentally´ saw a message on their bfs facebook or whatever, they keep asking for messages that have nothing to do with them or their relationship, and who generally consist of rude and grammatically incorrect Turkish slang.
When should I start the tedious process of writing Christmas Cards? I have yet to buy any cards..............
Yes me too. Ive got some from last year that are still fashionable (and bought in a shop few people buy so nobody will notice I bought them last year), but because I always buy a few different types of cards, I cant remember whom I sent which card, so now I cant use them anymore because maybe I´ll send someone the same card I sent last year.
Yes me too. Ive got some from last year that are still fashionable (and bought in a shop few people buy so nobody will notice I bought them last year), but because I always buy a few different types of cards, I cant remember whom I sent which card, so now I cant use them anymore because maybe I´ll send someone the same card I sent last year.
Bummer!
Do you really think they´ll remember!! (Unless all your friends save all their Christmas cards!)
Do you really think they´ll remember!! (Unless all your friends save all their Christmas cards!)
boo I was planning to do mine tonight (in work time!) but they´ve just announced they are doing a systems reboot....which generally knocks the whole thing off line for hours
Well I can assure you that everything we learned about William Wallace in our history books is brought to life in glorious (or should I say goryious) vivid technicolour....
Couldn´t really drum up that much enthusiasm for an Austrialian playing a Scots man!
It´s funny how Brits get all uptight when an American actor plays a British man/woman. Yet we quite happily watch them play all kinds of other roles/nationalities!
It was certainly not my favourite film, but it won 5 oscars, so I guess somebody liked it
I was about to post that "According to English dictionaries there are seven days in a week and it begins with Sunday and end with Saturday" but then thought that I´ll come nowhere close to You-Know-Who and will only be accused of being snarky. Oh well, I´ll pass then
It´s funny how Brits get all uptight when an American actor plays a British man/woman. Yet we quite happily watch them play all kinds of other roles/nationalities!
It was certainly not my favourite film, but it won 5 oscars, so I guess somebody liked it
Mel Gibson is an Australian playing a Scot with a Scots accent and from trailers I saw, he did not manage too well - which hence put me off watching the film!!! and there are not many American actors that can play a British role that well, because of the accents! Even Rene Zelwiger struggles............. but I loved Bridget Jones diary
Mel Gibson is an Australian playing a Scot with a Scots accent and from trailers I saw, he did not manage too well - which hence put me off watching the film!!! and there are not many American actors that can play a British role that well, because of the accents! Even Rene Zelwiger struggles............. but I loved Bridget Jones diary
Nothing could ever beat the awfulness of Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins!!! . Americans only know two British accents - Cockney and ´Posh´ (and I don´t mean Victoria Beckham ). It is more than likely though that Americans find Brit actors´ attempts at American accents pretty pathetic!
( I personally think Gwyneth Paltrow does ´British´ quite well though)
Nothing could ever beat the awfulness of Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins!!! . Americans only know two British accents - Cockney and ´Posh´ (and I don´t mean Victoria Beckham ). It is more than likely though that Americans find Brit actors´ attempts at American accents pretty pathetic!
( I personally think Gwyneth Paltrow does ´British´ quite well though)
You know i actually kinda noticed that cause we got a couple of new kids who just came from briatin and they have differnt ways of saying some words, like water
one goes wa-a and the other goes wat-e loooool!
But Ive stopped asking them from where in Britain coz i have no id ea about any city in the uk really, if theyre not from London then i dont know where the hell ur from!
"oh, im from somewhere berween yorkshire and leeds" yeaaah yeaaaaaaah, i got u, whatever lol!
lol, like today, that girls class was supposed to have PE (so did mine!) but then they brought both classes up and said theyd give us and english qquiz instead, and she just stamps in the middle of the hall going "What the hell! I hate this school!"
You know i actually kinda noticed that cause we got a couple of new kids who just came from briatin and they have differnt ways of saying some words, like water
one goes wa-a and the other goes wat-e loooool!
Hehehe there are so many regional accents in the UK, it´s true. I guess one of the main differences in England is between north and south (although all areas of north and south have variations).
In the north they use a short ´a´ - so pass, class, fast.
In the south we use a long ´a´ making these words sound like "parse, clarse and farst
Although I am from the south, I can see that Northern prounounciation is actually more grammatically correct, and probably easier for non-english to understand (apart from t´slang )
Hehehe there are so many regional accents in the UK, it´s true. I guess one of the main differences is between north and south (although all areas of north and south have variations).
In the north they use a short ´a´ - so pass, class, fast.
In the south we use a long ´a´ making these words sound like "parse, clarse and farst
Although I am from the south, I can see that Northern prounounciation is actually more grammatically correct, and probably easier for non-english to understand (apart from t´slang )
yeah, lol, come to egypt and youll find a difference between every town! Theres a bi difference between cairo and alexandria even though theyre close to each other, but i cant understand what the people from the south even say!!!!Really!
yeah... American Idol, americas got talent, so you think you dance etc etc!
Its become a fashion! And theyre always the cruel one and the blunt one which everyone hates!
And tehy always make peoiple cry!
Hehehe! Well it is not so much a "fashion", it is just that those two shows you mention originated in the UK, and Simon Cowell then took them to the US
It was a very funny and enjoyable night indeed!!! I had lots of fun, i had missed loud music and booze and dancing... but
there was a foreign group, and they were looking and showing me and talking something eachother right after i danced very close to my male friend who was very high after having tequila shots quickly, it was fun...
then i said to the man in the group:" I hope you are not thinking that i am a gay"
why i did that i dont know but i hope that he didnt understand the "i am a gay" part only
Lately we had PKK, Turkish Jails (including Midnight Express), YouTube, Armenian "genocide"..... hmmm perhaps it is time for another go at headscarves?
Lately we had PKK, Turkish Jails (including Midnight Express), YouTube, Armenian "genocide"..... hmmm perhaps it is time for another go at headscarves?
Turkish resort boys and where they go in the winter?
Lately we had PKK, Turkish Jails (including Midnight Express), YouTube, Armenian "genocide"..... hmmm perhaps it is time for another go at headscarves?
I have some columnist who wrote a nice article about our Kurdish issue about confessing that we made mistakes and also proving that kurdish is still banned
I have a list about people (more than 100 dissapeared in 1990´s (in south east of Turkey) and some of them found in the tube wells.
A recipe about ´Turkish chili con carne´
A song translation
Humping polar bears and a 1 m long tooth brush designed for a hippo (with pictures)
Ok, it´s Saturday evening and I see the cream of TC is logged on. Does it mean you have no personal life? And before you ask what about me, I assure you I have none whatsoever. Just hoped you were better-off
Now where do I get those exciting drinks? I can´t make up my mind - Trudy or Teas...
Ok, it´s Saturday evening and I see the cream of TC is logged on. Does it mean you have no personal life? And before you ask what about me, I assure you I have none whatsoever. Just hoped you were better-off
Now where do I get those exciting drinks? I can´t make up my mind - Trudy or Teas...
Take a Teas. Much more tastfull and without flu virus.....
Ok, it´s Saturday evening and I see the cream of TC is logged on. Does it mean you have no personal life? And before you ask what about me, I assure you I have none whatsoever. Just hoped you were better-off
Now where do I get those exciting drinks? I can´t make up my mind - Trudy or Teas...
It is only Saturday afternoon here and I have been stuck at home all week with this evil scourge that some fool was passing around at work.
Im thinking that all the teachers gave us soo much homework to do (tehy took advantage of our 10 day break ) and i didnt do not one thing yet! Which include 20 pages of bio 25 IT and 30 Math! And studying for a chemistry and English quiz 1 week after break finishes (ill probably start studying AfTER break!)
Im so happy i only chose to take 5 OL subjects this year! (some of my friends in Saudi Arabia are taking all 8!!!!!)
How on earth I ended up in a carol singing concert!!
Every second song the MC (managing conductor) forced everybody up and everybody was singing ´little betlehem, city of david, lord of the rings´ blah blah..
And my offer to make a maxian wave while we were standing up did not find any supporter..
How on earth I ended up in a carol singing concert!!
Every second song the MC (managing conductor) forced everybody up and everybody was singing ´little betlehem, city of david, lord of the rings´ blah blah..
And my offer to make a maxian wave while we were standing up did not find any supporter..
Hehehe made me giggle
Awwwww I bet you enjoyed it though?
(By the way, is there a carol called "Lord of The Rings")
Have been out for breakfast, made coffee, read the newspaper, played on TC, swapped "last night" stories with colleagues..... I suppose I should do some work soon
My thoughts exactly - if there isn´t there should be!
Well I picked up the word ´lord´ many times.. I assumed it could only be ´lord of the rings´..
The words were so distorted anyway..it seemed to me someone composed something then they found some poems and they tried to fit the poems into the music..
He stated quite clearly yesterday that because I disagreed with his posts, he cannot accept coffee from me! It is so immature Bod. You and I can disagree but it never stops us dancing in the fountain
Well I guess it is up to the moderators to decide what to do eh?
Well don´t look at me because I can´t move or delete from the Music/Lyrics Forum - only DK and libralady can do that. But the Turkish Music/Lyrics Forum is supposed to be for quote: ´Discussion about Turkish music and lyrics, and translation of lyrics´ and links to songs, Turkish or any other (with or without lyrics) should go under ´What are you listening to now?´ So really all Tamiki and TheH´s song posts should be moved - petty maybe, but there is a thread for one thing and a forum for the other so we might as well stick to them. I´m sure DK or LL will do it when they are next here.
Well don´t look at me because I can´t move or delete from the Music/Lyrics Forum - only DK and libralady can do that. But the Turkish Music/Lyrics Forum is supposed to be for quote: ´Discussion about Turkish music and lyrics, and translation of lyrics´ and links to songs, Turkish or any other (with or without lyrics) should go under ´What are you listening to now?´ So really all Tamiki and TheH´s song posts should be moved - petty maybe, but there is a thread for one thing and a forum for the other so we might as well stick to them. I´m sure DK or LL will do it when they are next here.
Agreed 100%..
Apologies from my part for ´being a kid with a kid´
Apologies from my part for ´being a kid with a kid´
I didn`t know you were into the Fatih Terim English, handsom.
besides, why am I being "the kid" here? it was you who made nonsense posts just to mess with me. and guess what, I didn`t even respond to your childish behavior.
I didn`t know you were into the Fatih Terim English, handsom.
besides, why am I being "the kid" here? it was you who made nonsense posts just to mess with me. and guess what, I didn`t even respond to your childish behavior.
Look
I made a mistake there and I am trying to forgive myself about it..
My mistake is being childish beacuse of your childish behaviour. It is not my style..
I clearly explined it previously why single link songs did not suit in that ´THREAD´.
And I am still insisting that I was right about it..
But, I should have stopped there. I am just a user like anybody else in the end (why am I being bothered? no logical explanation)..
As I said it is not my style, but you can keep being childish !!
Apologies again to everyone..
So you are not into F Terim English..eh? you dont know what you are missing boy..
The Irish creativity regarding Polish names is killing me I´ve jut got a letter to a Polish person whom I don´t know (it happens quite often as there are no post codes and mail usually ends up on the wrong doorstep). Anyway, the name should be Sławomir but it reads...Seawormir What a slimy name
A friend of mine named her daughter Sophie to make it easier for her here in Eire but child benefit section keeps calling her...Spohie
I am thinking to open a new thread called ´Off Topic Lounge´ with delicious drinks, marvelous coctails, perfect Turkish coffee and tea (made by a Turk..so unlike the other Lounges ´Turkish touch´ will be there too)..
I am thinking to open a new thread called ´Off Topic Lounge´ with delicious drinks, marvelous coctails, perfect Turkish coffee and tea (made by a Turk..so unlike the other Lounges ´Turkish touch´ will be there too)..
I am thinking to open a new thread called ´Off Topic Lounge´ with delicious drinks, marvelous coctails, perfect Turkish coffee and tea (made by a Turk..so unlike the other Lounges ´Turkish touch´ will be there too)..
TheH - we already have a lounge with drinks served. Is that an attempt to bring in some competition to TC and kick TheAe out of the bartending job? I wouldn´t try if I were you, her baklava is by far the best I have ever eaten (and I am an expert on sweets!)
TheH - we already have a lounge with drinks served. Is that an attempt to bring in some competition to TC and kick TheAe out of the bartending job? I wouldn´t try if I were you, her baklava is by far the best I have ever eaten (and I am an expert on sweets!)
Well DD,
Although that lounge has the blessing of admins, but i think it is abit..ermm..I can not find the right word for it..it is quite off topic and also it is distracting translaters from doing their job..
And our baklava will be home made and its butter will be from Turkey
Although that lounge has the blessing of admins, but i think it is abit..ermm..I can not find the right word for it..it is quite off topic and also it is distracting translaters from doing their job..
Well it was a nice way to meet people who never usually venture out of the translation forum
Off-topic is one BIG lounge anyway
Anyway, why don´t you just open one instead of discussing it? I am very flattered that you want to copy my idea
Actually im getting ;ots and lots and lotssssssss of money, since we get money on bayram! I actually feel kinda guilty getting money without doing anything!
I mean 100 from each realtive and more from grandparents! But im spending it all petty quickly!
But the truth is i ddint make so much this year cause almosta ll my realtives are away!
But I told you several times do not go there..did Not I?
I hope you dont have rabies..
Please make sure you have a full check up..And this is a good lesson for you..
Now that I think of it, maybe it wasn´t the baklava....maybe it was the food that you served the harem! I wouldn´t put it passed you to try to poison us!
I have been using this word incorrectly all my life!!! I hate it when that happens! The other day was the first time I discovered that "Beauchamp" is prounced "Beecham" in the UK. I know the "Magdalen" College = "Maudlen" one, but not this! As I consider myself reasonably intelligent, I find such things frightening to learn!!!
I have been using this word incorrectly all my life!!! I hate it when that happens! The other day was the first time I discovered that "Beauchamp" is prounced "Beecham" in the UK. I know the "Magdalen" College = "Maudlen" one, but not this! As I consider myself reasonably intelligent, I find such things frightening to learn!!!
Me too - and for a lot longer than you - how embarrassing!! I knew the Beauchamp one though!
Lir has sent me some rondom pictures of that horrible lounge.
This is their kitchen:
Yuuuck
How can you implicate me in your jealous plan to close the lounge!! . Such a blatant lie! You know I only let you sneak in the back door because you promised to help with the washing up. I saw you clicking away on your mobile phone but I thought you were just calling for more volunteers
How can you implicate me in your jealous plan to close the lounge!! . Such a blatant lie! You know I only let you sneak in the back door because you promised to help with the washing up. I saw you clicking away on your mobile phone but I thought you were just calling for more volunteers
I guess we should start throwing away some of those takeaway cartons....
I just came back from the hair salon and OMG! UI cant eblieve i cut my ahir sooo short!
from the back, its liek at half my necka nd the sides are under my chin, omg! BUt the uy who cut was really a preoffesional, and the place was like 3 stories high! I wanted it a little longer than that but my haoir was already layered, but it was long, but the was the shortest layer so he had to cut over it, but itll grow
lets see what their reactions are tommorow
nobody has any idea! t just better not be so poofy tommorow coz it looks horrible (cause it was wet and i wnet out like that so it went all crazy and poofy )
I just came back from the hair salon and OMG! UI cant eblieve i cut my ahir sooo short!
from the back, its liek at half my necka nd the sides are under my chin, omg! BUt the uy who cut was really a preoffesional, and the place was like 3 stories high! I wanted it a little longer than that but my haoir was already layered, but it was long, but the was the shortest layer so he had to cut over it, but itll grow
lets see what their reactions are tommorow
nobody has any idea! t just better not be so poofy tommorow coz it looks horrible (cause it was wet and i wnet out like that so it went all crazy and poofy )
But once i sleep itll be back to normal
okay, why in the world were people tortouring me abotu it???? Everybody was like what the hell did you do?? Are you crazy?
It was really frustrating actually!
Especially that this year, we chose between 2 subjects, IT or classic arabic (yuck!)
People who take classic arabic get to come at 9 30, and we hve an hpour break, so we all enter class together at 11, you shouldve seen the reactions!
I guess id di cut ti a bit too short! You know i have it in these really funny short pigtails now cause the long parts by my afce keep getting ij my eeys its sooo frustrating ill go blind!
After much research, we present the annual aeronautical engineers report on the theory of Santa:
No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer, which only Santa has ever seen.
There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn´t (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish & Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total -378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that´s 91.8 million homes. One presumes that there´s at least one good child in each.
Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with. This is due to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits/second. That is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has .001 second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house.
Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles/household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles; not counting stops to do what most of us do at lease once every 31 hours, plus eating etc. So Santa´s sleigh must be moving at 650 miles/second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a pokey 27.4 miles/second. A conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles/hour.
The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 lb.), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300lb. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see #1) can pull 10 TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with 8, or even 9, reindeer. We need 214,200. This increases the payload - not counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. This is four times the weight of the ocean-liner Queen Elizabeth.
353,000 tons travelling at 650 miles/second creates enormous air resistance. This will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth´s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporised within .00426 of a second. Meanwhile, Santa, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 lb. Santa, being very conservative in terms of guessing Santa´s weight, would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 lb. of force. If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he´s dead now.
Bod has a fascination with being on top of everyone! He will stop at nothing to stay on top....even resurrect old and tired threads! You are ruthless, bod, just ruthless!!
Bod has a fascination with being on top of everyone! He will stop at nothing to stay on top....even resurrect old and tired threads! You are ruthless, bod, just ruthless!!
I have my steel toed boots...ready to throw when ready..
I take it the threat of flying shoes was identified a long time ago.......
Oh yeah...shoes, gum, rocks, spitballs.............he still has a problem though when word are hurled at him....he constantly has to have someone tell him what they mean
Oh yeah...shoes, gum, rocks, spitballs.............he still has a problem though when word are hurled at him....he constantly has to have someone tell him what they mean
I´m thinking should I stop wasting time playing in TC and go outside and enjoy that BEAUTIFUL sunshine!!
And you even have to think about that? I would be outside quicker that you could type "thinking" I am thinking, shall I go outside and enjoy the fog soon...............
And you even have to think about that? I would be outside quicker that you could type "thinking" I am thinking, shall I go outside and enjoy the fog soon...............
Is the view outside that bad that you can actually enjoy the fog ???
A "tongue in cheek" comment................. the fog is still there even worse in London and the 4 lines on the underground has severe delays due to "a person under the train"
Deleted a sentance that I felt I should not have written.
I´ll help you with that decision...you can start by deleting mltm´s.......
And how about the posts before mltm´s posts ?
bod´s,femmeous´ and vineyards´ ?
Shouldnt they also be deleted ?
Why start by mltm´s and leave the ones before her´s ?!
Anyway,as i said,i wont delete any post in that thread,whoever want to delete anything would be by other mod not me,let them enjoy their own understanding of the freedom of speech and lighten us all about it.
Let´s all be proud about how far things can get there !
Why start by mltm´s and leave the ones before her´s ?!
Anyway,as i said,i wont delete any post in that thread,whoever want to delete anything would be by other mod not me,let them enjoy their own understanding of the freedom of speech and lighten us all about it.
Let´s all be proud about how far things can get there !
eh, people, people, when will you unerstand one simple thing here? deleting doesnt solve anything. deleting is like silencing, like opressing and jailing. you can do all that and there still be the voices and opinions. by banning or limitting you would turn them into zombies.
and plus, every spoken word will still be there in the air, it doesnt disappear, it will stay in minds.
i think every post should stay as it is, unless you are afraid of the power of spoken and written words. unless you have something to hide and cant stand the existence of other opinions no matter how much it could be insulting.
eh, people, people, when will you unerstand one simple thing here? deleting doesnt solve anything. deleting is like silencing, like opressing and jailing. you can do all that and there still be the voices and opinions. by banning or limitting you would turn them into zombies.
and plus, every spoken word will still be there in the air, it doesnt disappear, it will stay in minds.
i think every post should stay as it is, unless you are afraid of the power of spoken and written words. unless you have something to hide and cant stand the existence of other opinions no matter how much it could be insulting.
And when will you understand another simple thing too ?
There is a difference between expressing your opinion,yourself,voicing whatever you like to say,and insulting others ?
You use your rights,your freedom to say what you want,and also the others has the rights and freedom to be respected where they are
We are not in a jungle so the louder voice wins,that jungles rules
You can say whatever you like agree/disagree with others,and no one can blame or accuse you of insulting the other
But when you call other person names,or insult his/her believes...etc,thats when your rights in freedoms ends and starts the other person rights
Why do you always think of yourself,and what you can do and not think of others too ?
Christmas is that weird time of year when you come to work and start eating chocolates at 8am
This is serious....I managed to give away boxes and boxes of chocolates yesterday but then this morning someone has just brought me in some handmade Belgian chocolates.....its becoming hard to resist...I AM GOING TO BE FAT!
Christmas is that weird time of year when you come to work and start eating chocolates at 8am
This is serious....I managed to give away boxes and boxes of chocolates yesterday but then this morning someone has just brought me in some handmade Belgian chocolates.....its becoming hard to resist...I AM GOING TO BE FAT!
Maybe if I have just one....
Just accept it AE......
You get fatter over xmas and then spend January getting rid of the extra size!!!
Christmas is that weird time of year when you come to work and start eating chocolates at 8am
This is serious....I managed to give away boxes and boxes of chocolates yesterday but then this morning someone has just brought me in some handmade Belgian chocolates.....its becoming hard to resist...I AM GOING TO BE FAT!
Maybe if I have just one....
Oh, canim...poor you! But I know a way to help you - send all those chocolates over here - PMing you my address
why? Have you got anything against me dancing? FYI I have already signed up for Canlý´s Traditional Egyptian Dancing Classes! Watch what you´re saying or we won´t ask you to be in charge of costumes!
why? Have you got anything against me dancing? FYI I have already signed up for Canlý´s Traditional Egyptian Dancing Classes! Watch what you´re saying or we won´t ask you to be in charge of costumes!
Hey...DD be careful...bods favorite dancing is Pole Dancing! He might drag you down on the carpet with Femme and Aenigma!
If my "day of peace in the world/forums" is offensive, please delete it
I wont cry
I don´t personally find it offensive - but keep it clean!!! And another peaceful thread will be nice - a kind of John Lennon/Yoko Ono thing! Will any of it take place on one of bod´s rugs??
I don´t personally find it offensive - but keep it clean!!! And another peaceful thread will be nice - a kind of John Lennon/Yoko Ono thing! Will any of it take place on one of bod´s rugs??
No - don´t answer that please
John Lennon & Yoko Ono? Hmmm, I remember some quite reveiling pictures.....
Actually to be realistic...i hope doudi doesnt have time to come here
Dont you remember how is it being 14 ?!!!
I agree, even though it was a million years ago, I remember. And I certainly wasn´t sitting in front of a computer or a TV or playing video games. I was out having fun with friends and getting exercise and fresh air!
I agree, even though it was a million years ago, I remember. And I certainly wasn´t sitting in front of a computer or a TV or playing video games. I was out having fun with friends and getting exercise and fresh air!
And how did you managed to do that while you supposed to be studying ?!!!
à remember i was watching the TV with my favorites movies at the living room while i was supposed to study in my room
Ãt wasnt an easy task to watch my mother if she comes tho and try to convince her ´ehhmmm,if i have been caught´ that it was an important program and needed to be seen
But that would mean grounded at weekends and no TV !
And how did you managed to do that while you supposed to be studying ?!!!
à remember i was watching the TV with my favorites movies at the living room while i was supposed to study in my room
Ãt wasnt an easy task to watch my mother if she comes tho and try to convince her ´ehhmmm,if i have been caught´ that it was an important program and needed to be seen
Studying? I´m just naturally brilliant so I didn´t need to be bothered with all that studying nonsense!
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2. Avoid Cutting Yourself When Slicing Vegetables By Getting Someone Else To Hold The Vegetables While You Chop.
3. Avoid Arguments With The Females About Lifting The Toilet Seat By Using The Sink.
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5. A Mouse Trap Placed On Top Of Your Alarm Clock Will Prevent You From Rolling Over And Going Back To Sleep After You Hit The Snooze Button.
6. If You Have A Bad Cough, Take A Large Doses Of Laxatives. Then You´ll Be Afraid To Cough.
7. You Only Need Two Tools In Life - Wd-40 And Duct Tape. If It Doesn´t Move And Should, Use The Wd-40. If It Shouldn´t Move And Does, Use The Duct Tape.
8. Remember - Everyone Seems Normal Until You Get To Know Them.
9. Also Remember, If You Can´t Fix It With A Hammer, You´ve Got An Electrical Problem.
Daily Thought: Some People Are Like Slinkies - Not Really Good For Anything But They Bring A Smile To Your Face When They Fall Down The Stairs..
Ãm actually worry if i start to follow it and find myself still lost lol
à read they planing on season 6 too,so its along way still a head...so i was hoping for more clues than confirming that ...i will be lost lolll
The new season starts in the US in January. It is incredibly complicated and nobody can figure it out....but that is by design. You just have to suspend belief and go with it....it´s a fun show that keeps the viewers guessing. There are no answers at this point, even for people who have watched since the beginning.
Today is the first day of Christmas week and I am feeling very sparkley and festive. I declare that for this week ONLY I shall be full of Christmas joy and spirit(s) and seasonal cheer. I shall even be nice to theHandsom
I watched an old firm, "Murder on the Orient Express" which I had not seen for years. The film begins in Istanbul, and I was horrified at the portrayal of the Turks in the film!!!! The film is based in the 1930s, but Turkish people were shown all wearing fez (banned by Ataturk by that time) or Sikh (!!) headwear, all seemed to be Arab. Indian or African race, and were shown running around shouting or trying to sell things to the rich English tourists!
Forget that salak film Midnight Express, THIS film does you much more harm!
Turks were shown............running around shouting or trying to sell things to the rich English tourists!
Well...at least this part isn´t so far from the truth!
But I agree....I watched this movie about a year ago and was pretty shocked. But, if you watch a lot of old films, many of them are racist against many different people. It´s amazing how far we have come in such a short time.....at least I think we have. Even films from the 1970´s can be cringe inducing!
Well...at least this part isn´t so far from the truth!
But I agree....I watched this movie about a year ago and was pretty shocked. But, if you watch a lot of old films, many of them are racist against many different people. It´s amazing how far we have come in such a short time.....at least I think we have. Even films from the 1970´s can be cringe inducing!
well, i recently watched A Tale of Desperaux
everything was Dutch: red hair, houses, soup, collars, paintings, CLOGS, princesses, castles.
Kitty, Bady in Bed, theHairy and GG all in PM conference
Offffffff!! If you must know, we were only discussing the plight of pygmy goats which turned into a heated debate as to whether they have 3 or 4 stomach compartments!!!
Offffffff!! If you must know, we were only discussing the plight of pygmy goats which turned into a heated debate as to whether they have 3 or 4 stomach compartments!!!
wow this is amazing! can i join this conference of utmost importance? im sure i can be helpful with my skills of cutting the guts and bits if necessary
wow this is amazing! can i join this conference of utmost importance? im sure i can be helpful with my skills of cutting the guts and bits if necessary
Of course you can join! You can take bedy´s place. She became so offended that no one agreed with her that there are 3 stomachs that she left in a huff and vowed never to return.
Of course you can join! You can take bedy´s place. She became so offended that no one agreed with her that there are 3 stomachs that she left in a huff and vowed never to return.
i didnt know her from this side i thought she was the most effective pacifist. it must be there something apart the stomach issue that disturbed her calmness and coolness altogether.
thank you for the offer, but i prefer to have my own place instead of replacing someone esp bedy in bed.
btw, we can check the amount of stomachs if you wish, i will bring my scalpels with me.
i didnt know her from this side i thought she was the most effective pacifist. it must be there something apart the stomach issue that disturbed her calmness and coolness altogether.
thank you for the offer, but i prefer to have my own place instead of replacing someone esp bedy in bed.
btw, we can check the amount of stomachs if you wish, i will bring my scalpels with me.
i didnt know her from this side i thought she was the most effective pacifist. it must be there something apart the stomach issue that disturbed her calmness and coolness altogether.
thank you for the offer, but i prefer to have my own place instead of replacing someone esp bedy in bed.
btw, we can check the amount of stomachs if you wish, i will bring my scalpels with me.
Boy does she have you fooled! She has quite the temper and swears like a sailor when she is pissed!
We only meet biannually so our next meeting won´t be until December 23, 2010 but be sure you will get a PM with all the details then. Keep those scalpels sharp!!
Is it just me who wants to shout ´Batman´ whenever I see user ´dinadani´ logged in?
Possibly only the evil Brits will have any idea what I am talking about
Possibly as I have no idea what you mean, but knowing you I assume it´s something funny Darn! I´m so busy in the kitchen and Izmir35 sends me HI FROM BODRUM I don´t have time for that!
Possibly as I have no idea what you mean, but knowing you I assume it´s something funny Darn! I´m so busy in the kitchen and Izmir35 sends me HI FROM BODRUM I don´t have time for that!
The traitor! He sent me the same (maybe it is a friend of LIRs). Anyway, I think you should set aside your 12 COURSES (!!) and talk to him on msn for a while
The traitor! He sent me the same (maybe it is a friend of LIRs). Anyway, I think you should set aside your 12 COURSES (!!) and talk to him on msn for a while
Really? No way! The only thing I share with friends is food, I have NEVER given anyone my msn, it is all mine! You go and talk to him, you still have time to curve a turkey shape in that turnip you bought yesterday
Really? No way! The only thing I share with friends is food, I have NEVER given anyone my msn, it is all mine! You go and talk to him, you still have time to curve a turkey shape in that turnip you bought yesterday
OMG - we agreed NOT TO SELL HER!!! What have you done??
To continue...
Like I said, times were hard and I needed the cash. It was so easy...I got thehandsom to help and told Doudi I was taking her to see the circus, then "accidently" bumped into thehandsom who was disguised as the bearded lady - a quick sack over the head job, and we had sold her to The Amazing MrX and His Performing Sea Lions for 100 quid (20 to theH, 80 to me).
Like I said, times were hard and I needed the cash. It was so easy...I got thehandsom to help and told Doudi I was taking her to see the circus, then "accidently" bumped into thehandsom who was disguised as the bearded lady - a quick sack over the head job, and we had sold her to The Amazing MrX and His Performing Sea Lions for 100 quid (20 to theH, 80 to me).
Job done.
You seem to have forgotten one critical point....it was MY idea to sell her in the first place! Soooooooo......where is my cut!?!?!
Like I said, times were hard and I needed the cash. It was so easy...I got thehandsom to help and told Doudi I was taking her to see the circus, then "accidently" bumped into thehandsom who was disguised as the bearded lady - a quick sack over the head job, and we had sold her to The Amazing MrX and His Performing Sea Lions for 100 quid (20 to theH, 80 to me).
Job done.
was it Doudi?
OMG..
You told me that ´we were getting rid of a nationalist´
GRRRR Back on diet today and doesn´t help when people are using nicknames like .....mschocolate......kellyorange( I´m thinking chocolate orange)........and baklavas!!
Im thinkin i justs aw the best show in my life!!!!!
Elveda derken!!!
OMg today was the last episode! I dont think ive eever cried for 2 hours straight!!!!!
Its sucha greaaaaaaaaaat show with life meanings and ... aaaaaaaaaaaaah its great!!!
wATCH IT!
my eyes are like balloons now, and they were already kinda huge today cxause yesterday at noight i watched (for the millionth time) A walk to remmebr, and cried soooooooooo hard (for the millionth time!!!)
it was soooooooooooo good! for about 2 months i think, it makes u feel so many feeligns at the same time and sympathize with evrry end of the story, and the story is a story of lots of ppl, but u feel like theyre all connected together...
so, now my eyes actually hurt, and my moms like enough, it wasnt that sad, and everythign turmed out ok in the end (except for a couple of things) but they were happpppy tears!!!!
loool!
Anyway, i wonder what ill watch everyday now from 7-8....
WOOOOOOOOOOOW! Cant believe this! the biggest MAngo is in Istanbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul!!
6 FLOORS!
AWESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOME!
If u could only come and see my closet1 I should LAbel MAngo over it
, like my dad is in SAudi arabia now, hes like look what i bought u from Man go (on the web cam,) And he keeps stickign the tag in my face and he goes like Mangoooooooooooo ok? R U happy?
loooooooooool! When i go to turkey this summer (nshallah) I gtg there!
Yes - thank God - we heard Aenigma and thehandsom had sold you to the circus! You seem a little high at the moment though - try to calm down! Oh ..and Happy New Year! (btw ...we missed you )
I am over the worst of the lurgie, but when I was really bad I ordered by shopping online from Tescos....might be an idea?
EDIT: I thought you said you were ON your death bed!
Offfffff salak me
No, today I am begining to surface after 10 days I live two miles from Tesco so the husband gets sent for essentials (and forgets them) Yeh, shopping on line - never been one of my finest moments
well waking up with the cold (even though my bed is next to a radiator) is just my luck! Have only just got out my bed covers and decided I´m just going to have to deal with having a cold *sighs*
well waking up with the cold (even though my bed is next to a radiator) is just my luck! Have only just got out my bed covers and decided I´m just going to have to deal with having a cold *sighs*
i am sorry for your having cold... but i really dying in curiosity about your nick name 2 years ago
i am sorry for your having cold... but i really dying in curiosity about your nick name 2 years ago
well now that would be telling Well it would be 2 years in the summer I think. Lets just say I knew quite a few people who are suprisingly still here, including LIR
well now that would be telling Well it would be 2 years in the summer I think. Lets just say I knew quite a few people who are suprisingly still here, including LIR
Boop, Kai or what was her name....Robyn (or susieK)
well now that would be telling Well it would be 2 years in the summer I think. Lets just say I knew quite a few people who are suprisingly still here, including LIR
well thats the reason for me to ask to make you tell hahahah
Dont listen to him, NightmaresR4Re-Living, he is a nobody
well to give you one more clue (this should do it with you´re memory). If you look on the last message of this link, you may remember who else lived on the IOW for a while
- Thankful, but cold I think I caught the lurgie off of someone
I really sympathise. I had it for a week, and was soooooooooooo cold ALL THE TIME I began to think there was something wrong with the heating. Even with layers of clothes on and the heating turned up high, I could never get warm
I really sympathise. I had it for a week, and was soooooooooooo cold ALL THE TIME I began to think there was something wrong with the heating. Even with layers of clothes on and the heating turned up high, I could never get warm
Paracetamol is your best friend
Well I sleep next to the radiator and someone turnt it off in the middle of the night so you can imagine the effect of sleeping against a cold piece of metal! It is starting to effect the rest of my body too *groans* My feet are in boots that "keep your feet warm up to -35 degree" and are so cold they´ve gone numb, not to mention my hands are of a bluish color.
Well I sleep next to the radiator and someone turnt it off in the middle of the night so you can imagine the effect of sleeping against a cold piece of metal! It is starting to effect the rest of my body too *groans* My feet are in boots that "keep your feet warm up to -35 degree" and are so cold they´ve gone numb, not to mention my hands are of a bluish color.
Paracetamol I will have to try!
Now i doubt if you are human hahaha it is something like X-Files lol
Yes - thank God - we heard Aenigma and thehandsom had sold you to the circus! You seem a little high at the moment though - try to calm down! Oh ..and Happy New Year! (btw ...we missed you )
Thx LIr, but um.... guess i missed alot of things :S
But u know ive felt like ive kinda been living in a circus im BUSY BUSY BUSY!!!!
I feel like im in college
We have soo many office hours almost everyday, and i cant believe i did this but i took a 6th subject this year, (even more surprising is the subject i took! Classical arabic!!!!!!!!!!! But oits reeeaaaaaaaaaaal easy too, and nice , like 6th grade easy, 70 marks are on comprehension anyway in paper 1 what more do u want?And an A* is from 75%)
So i had to catch up, and OMG its crazy , but office hours are actually real fun, especially if we have more than one a day, on weekends we have chemistry at either 10 am or 1 pm, 10 is horible, were alljust awake, and we look drunk and we come early and talk, but the real funs after the office hours, we go to mc donalds or hardees or whatever is close to us, or ifts still early in the morning the whole class(almost and literally) we like go to the supermarket and buy stuff
and then we have math, which is at a different place, so its ,like Enjy ill go with ur dad, and liike we all ride in the end ina couple of cars lool its soo fun,a nd then wehn the office housr of the day are over, like maybe my mom ´ll call and say i cant get u, so i go with one of my friends, or the oppisite , or we all go to Starbucks or Costa and study (or at least thast what we tell our parents, but tis really ahrd to study there )
Everyday i tell my mom stories and my mo0k cracks up!
LOOOOOOOOOL!! I rememberd my MOE arabic teacher (Ministry of Education) ITs obligatory even though we dont follow the public system we have to take the MOE arabic and social syudies if u want to get to any college in egypt (unless ur a foreigner), but the subject isnt importanat and we drive the teacher maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Coz we dont care what he does and we dont have to pay attention we just ahve to apss the subject,
But teh guys real racist , he always kicks the boys put but he just makes the girls stand up in class, and then he makes them sit down again, buit not me loooooooooooool!!!
He says if i dont behave hell traet me likemone of the boys, and then to be more exact hell traet me ´like that peice of garbage Omar Abbass" and lets not start talkign abput HIM
And when are we going to have another installment of Auntie Aenigma´s horoscopes? It is a new year after all....
Exactly!
Where the heck has she gone? I hope the visions of TC members´ future did not overwhelm her to the extent that she quit her job, donned a mean attire and went mad wondering the streets of IOW occasionally utteing a loud cry of despair
She did not see that happening to you this year, did she? You WILL go grey though!
Hah! Horoscopes are fake! (Unless they say great positive things of course...) And grey, me? According to some I´m still ´an evil bed ginger red head´...
Ok, so -- the hacker may still have some users´ account informations that he can log in as, and modify these people´s posts or post new messages and add a [script] that extracts your account information if you click on it. So, if anything like that happens to you (you are re-directed to another site or get a pop-up), CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD AGAIN!
Please... keep reporting any suspicious accounts and threads... and keep changing your passwords if you stumble on a pop-up or if you are redirected anywhere... Thank you everybody for your patience and help.
you missed all the fun. Well, there were threads redirecting users to the other side of the looking glass and then a white rabbit showed up saying he´s hacked the TC because he wanted the laptop I had promised TheHandsom. But Kitty and Admin saved us
Ouh DD are you ok? Have you been manhandled? Ewwwwwww the thought of someone getting into your account is nasty! Go and take a long shower and scrub yourself raw
Ouh DD are you ok? Have you been manhandled? Ewwwwwww the thought of someone getting into your account is nasty! Go and take a long shower and scrub yourself raw
I´m gonna have to...The first thing I did after regaining my account back was...to delete all my pms and it was such a lovely collection of almost 4 years so many things I could hold against so many members...
Offfffff I have just done a stock check and all the pastries have gone, the completely batch of cocktails we mixed (including the Askims and Sevgilims) and all of the spirits
For some reason they left Femme´s soup and LIR´s hand knitted cardie though
Nothing to hide...I just don´t like keeping messages "live" on any site. Also you someone once said that it was easy for people to get in and read them
Nothing to hide...I just don´t like keeping messages "live" on any site. Also you someone once said that it was easy for people to get in and read them
I´m gonna have to...The first thing I did after regaining my account back was...to delete all my pms and it was such a lovely collection of almost 4 years so many things I could hold against so many members...
4 years? it must be a big material useful for sometime in future
i deleted too i had lovely pms from dudus and gossips with duduettes. and my corresspondence with LIR where we regularly discuss what to do with some problematic members or which post to delete next month etc etc.
From a Dutch site: According to the English psychologist Cliff Arnall tomorrow, the 3rd Monday of January, is the most depressing day of the year. People know they broke their New Year promises, bills have to be paid, salary is due only next week and no holiday for most for a long time. The most happiest day of the year is the Friday in June, closest to June 21st, the day Summer starts.
I think I have my most depressing day now....... OMG, What will that be tomorrow?
From a Dutch site: According to the English psychologist Cliff Arnall tomorrow, the 3rd Monday of January, is the most depressing day of the year. People know they broke their New Year promises, bills have to be paid, salary is due only next week and no holiday for most for a long time.
TC Tabliod sources say she is vacationing in beautiful Antalya with a mysterious male stranger. She was spotted in an electronics store trying to buy a laptop and was later seen in a cell phone shop.
TC Tabliod sources say she is vacationing in beautiful Antalya with a mysterious male stranger. She was spotted in an electronics store trying to buy a laptop and was later seen in a cell phone shop.
Well, according to these sources, she is probably not missing us at the moment.. We do urge you though Aenigma, come back here before we have to go get you!
TC Tabliod sources say she is vacationing in beautiful Antalya with a mysterious male stranger. She was spotted in an electronics store trying to buy a laptop and was later seen in a cell phone shop.
And even later at the cash point loaded with bags of electronic good, laptop, phone, wiifit, Playstation, 5 litre of diesel....................................................
And even later at the cash point loaded with bags of electronic good, laptop, phone, wiifit, Playstation, 5 litre of diesel....................................................
She might be hiding somewhere waiting for us to forget she hasn´t STILL provided Scorpio´s horoscope. Ae, you may come out, we won´t forget about it in thousand years, scorpios re worse than elephants, you know
She might be hiding somewhere waiting for us to forget she hasn´t STILL provided Scorpio´s horoscope. Ae, you may come out, we won´t forget about it in thousand years, scorpios re worse than elephants, you know
Silly AE! Is she not aware of our persistence and fortitude?
That was almost a poem H! - I rewrote it better for you though!
I will pm DD
Just to see
If she´d care to meet me
And go over the sea
To look for AE
Copyright: (c) ladyinred
LiR That´s an amazing piece of writing, the hesitation and expectations of the I-speaker, the sea functioning as a metaphor of perils. Truly inspiring.
LiR That´s an amazing piece of writing, the hesitation and expectations of the I-speaker, the sea functioning as a metaphor of perils. Truly inspiring.
You are very kind - it´s so good to know one´s rhymes poetry are is appreciated
People in my Polish forum for mums are mad. Why do I still go there? There must be some truth in the saying that all Poles know everything about medicine and building They take their children to paediatricians every week, do blood tests, poo tests and scans of literally everything. They give their children all kinds of vitamins and prebiotics on a hunch. If one doctor tells them the child is ok, they...change the doctor. People are mad
And even later at the cash point loaded with bags of electronic good, laptop, phone, wiifit, Playstation, 5 litre of diesel....................................................
All for her dudu and the diesel? for his car moped
Perhaps he needs time to prepare for Trudys visit to London
No hurry in that case... if there is no answer to my couchsurf requests, there will be not visit to London! (And is it a coincidence that 3 of the non-replyers are of Turkish descent? )
18 million of dollars...damn!!!!in crisis times no alms,no donations!18 millions to make a dream come true!the biggest Hipotherapy centre in Poland!I spend hours translating brochures into English and Spanish and nothing!!!!Town gave a land in a beautiful park with a palace..the palace owner agreed..but damn..how to get 18 millions??????????Angryyyyyyyyyyyyy.......
Tomorrow I have an interview for a new Job (aaarrgghh)..... So I have an excuse to procrastinate on here (instead of cramming in last minute stealth answers )
Tomorrow I have an interview for a new Job (aaarrgghh)..... So I have an excuse to procrastinate on here (instead of cramming in last minute stealth answers )
What are your top tips during interviews?
Since I´m usually doing the hiring here is what I suggest to prepare:
1. Be on time
2. Research the company. Memorize some facts about the company
3. Prepare a list of questions you would like to ask....Just don´t ask how soon you can take time off.
4. Dress for Success
5. You should be doing at least 60% of the talking, I would say no more than this. You don´t want to take over the entire interview. Avoid going into to much of your personal life.
6. Project positiveness
7. Be prepared to answer questions and give examples. Don´t forget in the end the positive results and outcomes.
Since I´m usually doing the hiring here is what I suggest to prepare:
1. Be on time
2. Research the company. Memorize some facts about the company
3. Prepare a list of questions you would like to ask....Just don´t ask how soon you can take time off.
4. Dress for Success
5. You should be doing at least 60% of the talking, I would say no more than this. You don´t want to take over the entire interview. Avoid going into to much of your personal life.
6. Project positiveness
7. Be prepared to answer questions and give examples. Don´t forget in the end the positive results and outcomes.
8. Lastly, just be at ease and yourself.
Good luck, I´m sure you will do fine.
thanks teas
1. yip I´ve slotted 2 hours in for a one hour journey!! (well it is London!!)
2. Job with company that I´m already working for so I´m well up to speed
3. that a hard one I never know what to ask.....
4. easy It´s a uniformed position so should be worn
5. I soooo hate talking about myself ...selling yourself etc
6. yeah I can do that ...I´m generally an upbeat kinda girl
7. they never ask the questions I´ve prepared in advance grrrr
The confused face of one of my students who - as a joke - asked me to marry him in his own language Papiamento, but I did understood him..... (and I said no!)
Above was a joke, but now I am very serious: I received a text message from that same student saying: ´I love you.´ I am convinced for 99% that he is joking but what if - that 1% doubt - he is not? I deleted it and I did not answer it but what should I do when he is in my class the next time? Should I tell him not to send texts like that anymore? Should I ignore it and act as if he did not sent it? Should I .... Advice please!!
Trudy, I´d take it as a joke and would ignore it for now. If the situation repeats itself, I´d have a talk with that student and tell him he either has to change his class or give up bothering you. Otherwise you´d have to report it.
Trudy, I´d take it as a joke and would ignore it for now. If the situation repeats itself, I´d have a talk with that student and tell him he either has to change his class or give up bothering you. Otherwise you´d have to report it.
Of course if you like him, marry him
Lessluv - good luck with your interview
hey reply declaring your undying love also....normally makes them run a mile
Trudy, I´d take it as a joke and would ignore it for now. If the situation repeats itself, I´d have a talk with that student and tell him he either has to change his class or give up bothering you. Otherwise you´d have to report it.
Of course if you like him, marry him
Lessluv - good luck with your interview
Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! (I do like him but definitely NOT in that way!!!)
hey reply declaring your undying love also....normally makes them run a mile
Actually that might work, that´s what my colleague did when one of her students told her he loved her. She looked at him and said - well, then I suppose we need to get married now That knocked him off his feet. But Trudy´s admirer might already be prepared for that
The confused face of one of my students who - as a joke - asked me to marry him in his own language Papiamento, but I did understood him..... (and I said no!)
Above was a joke, but now I am very serious: I received a text message from that same student saying: ´I love you.´ I am convinced for 99% that he is joking but what if - that 1% doubt - he is not? I deleted it and I did not answer it but what should I do when he is in my class the next time? Should I tell him not to send texts like that anymore? Should I ignore it and act as if he did not sent it? Should I .... Advice please!!
If he is over 15, you should not ignore it as a joke if you ask me..
You should speak to him and you should be quite firm..If you dont, there is a chance that he was talking about it to his friends and you might be labeled as all sorts of things..
But Trudy´s admirer might already be prepared for that
He is probably a member of this website and is spying on you right now! I am sure that handsom has more than one ID! He is getting much smarter since DD and I caught him trying to woe us both!
If he is over 15, you should not ignore it as a joke if you ask me..
You should speak to him and you should be quite firm..If you dont, there is a chance that he was talking about it to his friends and you might be labeled as all sorts of things..
Of course, it is just my idea..
The man is 48, divorced and living as a single parent with his daughter!
I do like him as an enthousiastic student, but this behaviour - even when we all in class joke at lot - makes me feeling very unfortable. If it is true, I think he should leave school - as there is no other class of his level than the one I teach, if it is not true, will I not make a fool of myself to start a serious conversation?
you should talk with him after class, ask him what the message means. if the kid states it´s a joke or if you consider it, act mature and say it is not something you appreciate or tollerate and lest he wants his parents called, he should stop immedialty and forever with it. If he says he really feels like that, you should take some moments to act mature and mother-like with him. Talk to him about life and love in general. After all, at this age these kind of crushes hide emotional disorders and lack of mother care. (i am posting without reading the further comments on this). good luck!
Quoting Trudy
Quote: Trudy
The confused face of one of my students who - as a joke - asked me to marry him in his own language Papiamento, but I did understood him..... (and I said no!)
Above was a joke, but now I am very serious: I received a text message from that same student saying: ´I love you.´ I am convinced for 99% that he is joking but what if - that 1% doubt - he is not? I deleted it and I did not answer it but what should I do when he is in my class the next time? Should I tell him not to send texts like that anymore? Should I ignore it and act as if he did not sent it? Should I .... Advice please!!
Ignoring him is what is either hurtful for him or embarassing for you-if a joke- as an unsolved problem. Leaving school? why on erath´s sake? because an innocent sms? maybe you should leve school... if not able to deal more intimate situations with a student... Being an adult asks for acting like one. you are talking like you were in love with him, too! He should leave school... C´mon!
Quoting Trudy
The man is 48, divorced and living as a single parent with his daughter!
I do like him as an enthousiastic student, but this behaviour - even when we all in class joke at lot - makes me feeling very unfortable. If it is true, I think he should leave school - as there is no other class of his level than the one I teach, if it is not true, will I not make a fool of myself to start a serious conversation?
Ignoring him is what is either hurtful for him or embarassing for you-if a joke- as an unsolved problem. Leaving school? why on erath´s sake? because an innocent sms? maybe you should leve school... if not able to deal more intimate situations with a student... Being an adult asks for acting like one. you are talking like you were in love with him, too! He should leave school... C´mon!
Maybe you should read more before you reply, portokal, with such judgement. It wasn´t the first time he said something like this. Besides you have no idea what type of school I teach.
The man is 48, divorced and living as a single parent with his daughter!
I do like him as an enthousiastic student, but this behaviour - even when we all in class joke at lot - makes me feeling very unfortable. If it is true, I think he should leave school - as there is no other class of his level than the one I teach, if it is not true, will I not make a fool of myself to start a serious conversation?
Trudy
Go for it..
You just text him back and say ´Me too´
(and then start searching for cheap deals of mobile phones and laptops on the net.. )
I think for a 48 y old man (in general for an adult), what he´s been doing cannot be regarded and treated the same way as for a 15 y old adolescent.
Sending a text message of "I love you"! In my opinion, you should not ignore it, and behave as if nothing happened. It will just show that you are not professional, or you are weak. His behaviours are not in the toleration limits. You should, somehow solve it, by calling him after class for a serious talk, and ask him what his intention is. Do not get mad, look quiet calm yet determined. Do not personalize it, just tell him that in that establishment behaviours of this kind are not accepted and tolerated. Tell him that if such behaviours continue, you have to let the administration know about it so that necessary steps are taken.
I guess you are right, Trudy, and I apologize... I did not noticed he is 48.
Then, I would presume it is sort of special school. Sorry again. Anyway, you should deal with the subject, in my opinion. You are the teacher, you have an authority and there should be respect, also. If not there is respect to be learned. Good luck with this situation!
Quoting Trudy
Maybe you should read more before you reply, portokal, with such judgement. It wasn´t the first time he said something like this. Besides you have no idea what type of school I teach.
The man is 48, divorced and living as a single parent with his daughter!
I do like him as an enthousiastic student, but this behaviour - even when we all in class joke at lot - makes me feeling very unfortable. If it is true, I think he should leave school - as there is no other class of his level than the one I teach, if it is not true, will I not make a fool of myself to start a serious conversation?
How did he get your private number? Perhaps he felt having that gave him license. At any rate, you really should set him straight ASAP, otherwise, he may think you are being coy.
After class, and just tell him that you got his sms´s and you dont like or encourage that behaviour, and the relationship that you already have ´teacher to a student relationship´ doesnt include this.
And add that you didnt talk with him about the first sms guessing it is a joke and its already ended !
“To dream anything that you want to dream. That´s the beauty of the human mind. To do anything that you want to do. That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits. That is the courage to succeed.”
How did he get your private number? Perhaps he felt having that gave him license. At any rate, you really should set him straight ASAP, otherwise, he may think you are being coy.
All my students have my number because the company does not provide me a company mobile. They have to call when they cannot come for whatever reason and the school administration is sometimes (many times) not reachable - meaning no one answers the phone! Therefor my colleguages and I give students our private numbers, so they are able to make a call.
canli deletes only those posts that criticises her religion/culture. her religion is so weak that cant stand and face any criticism. it must be defended by blood. thats why islam issues fatwas on salman rushdie and ayaan hirsi. islam doesnt issue a fatwa on islamic terrorists like osama bin laden and other thousands of them.
and this is the beauty of islam. cant stand it? destroy it for the sake of allah.
Yet it never reads so on the cans of evaporated carmelised milk that I buy. Hehe I´ve just noticed the link you gave provides link to Krowki ( traditional Polish sweets that bring back my childhood)
why on earth my MD´s little dog is laying in the middle of the office and licking his private parts constantly!
You actually answered that question in one sentence That´s probably because the dog´s male. You´d do the same if it weren´t for social rules (please appreciate I didn´t mention physical abilities )
You actually answered that question in one sentence That´s probably because the dog´s male. You´d do the same if it weren´t for social rules (please appreciate I didn´t mention physical abilities )
If social rules did not exist, I would be in Ireland right now DD
I want my latte back!! I figured that much of it out myself!!!
I started thinking about why THIS THREAD got closed and I must say I have no idea. I don´t remember but since it was Erdinc who closed it, there must have been a debate about Ataturk or perhaps somebody posted a weird picture, mods deleted it he got angry and started cursing the mods, mods banned him and locked the thread with the discussion. Who was it?
I started thinking about why THIS THREAD got closed and I must say I have no idea. I don´t remember but since it was Erdinc who closed it, there must have been a debate about Ataturk or perhaps somebody posted a weird picture, mods deleted it he got angry and started cursing the mods, mods banned him and locked the thread with the discussion. Who was it?
I am happy that i got my VISA and TICKET to Vienna!!!! yuppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Congratulations!!!!now you will change your music taste to Mozart,Beethoven and Strauss familydrink Vienna coffee and put on weight with Vienna famouse cheese cake....
Congratulations!!!!now you will change your music taste to Mozart,Beethoven and Strauss familydrink Vienna coffee and put on weight with Vienna famouse cheese cake....
tebrikler tekrar!
naaaaaahhhh!!! nothing can change my music taste and i am on diet hahahaa
I started thinking about why THIS THREAD got closed and I must say I have no idea. I don´t remember but since it was Erdinc who closed it, there must have been a debate about Ataturk or perhaps somebody posted a weird picture, mods deleted it he got angry and started cursing the mods, mods banned him and locked the thread with the discussion. Who was it?
awwww soooo cute! the piggy looks tempting slurrrp
That reminds me....I heard yesterday that there are rumors going around work about why I have been working from home for so long.
So yesterday I decided to start a rumor of my own.
I told my friend to tell everyone that I had a seizure and accidentally bit my tongue off and had to have a transplant with a pig tongue. And now when I try to speak, all I can say is "oinkkkkk"!
That reminds me....I heard yesterday that there are rumors going around work about why I have been working from home for so long.
So yesterday I decided to start a rumor of my own.
I told my friend to tell everyone that I had a seizure and accidentally bit my tongue off and had to have a transplant with a pig tongue. And now when I try to speak, all I can say is "oinkkkkk"!
That reminds me....I heard yesterday that there are rumors going around work about why I have been working from home for so long.
So yesterday I decided to start a rumor of my own.
I told my friend to tell everyone that I had a seizure and accidentally bit my tongue off and had to have a transplant with a pig tongue. And now when I try to speak, all I can say is "oinkkkkk"!
heh heh I love rumours ha ha lots of fun to be had.....especially watching it travel round getting more and more distorted....when it eventually comes back it will be a completely different story
heh heh I love rumours ha ha lots of fun to be had.....especially watching it travel round getting more and more distorted....when it eventually comes back it will be a completely different story
Exactly! That´s how everything got started in the first place! It´s like kids playing the telephone game. By the time the truth comes full circle it´s a completely different story!
I can´t wait to hear what it will end up being when I am ready to go back.
Hmmmmm. Maybe I should start a new rumor everyday!
Exactly! That´s how everything got started in the first place! It´s like kids playing the telephone game. By the time the truth comes full circle it´s a completely different story!
I can´t wait to hear what it will end up being when I am ready to go back.
Hmmmmm. Maybe I should start a new rumor everyday!
I want my latte back!! I figured that much of it out myself!!!
Ok,ok will tell you more but just leave the latte out of it .
There was a problem then regarding some member
He had mmm let´s say a misunderstanding with Erdinç, fire works started here and there, you can guess the rest.
So people as i remember were talking about that incident in that thread and that was the end of the thread .
Ãf i got anything wrong ...correction is welcome, i remember that was the first dedikodu some members told me when i first came here after right that incident lol
I expect she locked it because you aren´t really supposed to post on it as a thread - its just a thread containing links to the other admin related threads so they can be easily found. Nothing sinister involved!!
I expect she locked it because you aren´t really supposed to post on it as a thread - its just a thread containing links to the other admin related threads so they can be easily found. Nothing sinister involved!!
i didnt think of sinister, it was weird, because it was open before.
Canli was right to lock that thread after some blonde moron posted there without reading previous posts We should try not to cause too much mess int his forum, so she was right to do it, she also should have deleted the posts we put there, they were not to the point.
I think that we have had enough discussions about israel and gaza!!! I´m getting of it...
We are all tired of it, but not a fraction as tired of it as those people living in the middle of it. When ever I find myself getting tired of the problems in Iraq or Gaza, I think of those who havedied, lost their homes, loved ones or been injured. I think of living without water, electricity, food and re-evaluate my feelings.....Yes....it is very tedious....
i know this. you dont care for those who suffer from the hands of muslims everyday in africa, middle east and far east (across the whole euroasia). you never mention about these painful facts. but of course, people in iraq and palestine are of high importance to you. what else should i expect from you?
Quoting alameda
We are all tired of it, but not a fraction as tired of it as those people living in the middle of it. When ever I find myself getting tired of the problems in Iraq or Gaza, I think of those who havedied, lost their homes, loved ones or been injured. I think of living without water, electricity, food and re-evaluate my feelings.....Yes....it is very tedious....
I love these groups on Fb , u know the things girls need to know about guys and vice versa, ANYWAy
2day i read things girls need to know about guys, i chose my FAVs
(oh, BTW this was written by a guy)
2. "Hey, are you busy?" or "Are you doing something?" ~ two phrases guys open with to stop from stammering on the phone.
3. Guys may be flirting around all day but before they go to sleep, they always think about the girl they truly care about.(or we like to think so!!!!!!)
4. Before they call, guys try to plan out a little about what they´re going to say so there aren´t awkward pauses, but once he´s on the phone he forgets it all and makes it up as he goes.
5. Guys go crazy over a girl´s smile when they’re attracted to them
6. Guys will do anything just to get you to notice him.
7. Guys are good flatterers when courting but they usually stammer when they talk to a girl they really like.
8. Guys hate asking parents for money to buy girls presents. So they come up with ideas like saving their lunch money for a week. But it never works because guys are always hungry so they end up asking the parents for money anyway.(hilarioussssssssssssss)
9. A usual act that proves that the guy likes you is when he teases you.(recently learned that is TRUE!, but i think 4 like skool only, any older than that then the guys still a real kid!)
10. Guys use words like hot or cute to describe girls. We rarely use beautiful. If a guy uses that, he likes you a whole hell of a lot.
11. Guys think WAY too much. One small thing a girl does, even if she doesn´t notice it can make the guy think about it for hours, trying to figure out what it meant.
12. Guys seek for advice from girls not other guys. Because most guys think alike, so if one guy´s confused, then we´re all confused.(Soooooooooo true!!!)
13. Guys use words like hot or cute to describe girls. We rarely use beautiful. If a guy uses that, he likes you a whole hell of a lot.
14. Guys think WAY too much. One small thing a girl does, even if she doesn´t notice it can make the guy think about it for hours, trying to figure out what it meant.
15. Guys seek for advice from girls not other guys. Because most guys think alike, so if one guy´s confused, then we´re all confused.(looooooooooooooooool!! I diots!! I can imagine them all sitting in a circle,
-yeah, im stumped!!!
-me too,
-lets eat!!!,
loooooooooool)
16. If the guy does something stupid in front of the girl, he will think about it for the next couple days or until the next time he spends time with the girl.
17-When a guy asks you to leave him alone, he´s just actually saying, "Please come and listen to me."(thats sooo sweet!!!! Like a child!!! Its so cute!)
18. When a guy looks at you for longer than a second, he´s definitely thinking something
19. Guys really think that girls are strange and have unpredictable decisions and are MAD confusing but somehow are drawn even more to them.
20. We love it when girls talk about there ass.(i just thoyght this one was funny )
21.Even if they refuse it all guys are ticklish on the ribs.(really? Ill have to try )
okay i chose these out 80, theyer all real nice
i really sympathized with guys after i read them, theyre really like babaies or animals! So stubborn and yeah, no need to o on! But really, i actually feel sorry for them!!!!
I watched some episodes of "Dr Quinn the Medicine Woman" and now I feel sad that Sully and Dr Mike are not real people who really live together in Colorado Springs... etc etc... but that they were just acting.. I feel like a child who is told that Santa Claus doesn´t really exist..
I watched some episodes of "Dr Quinn the Medicine Woman" and now I feel sad that Sully and Dr Mike are not real people who really live together in Colorado Springs... etc etc... but that they were just acting.. I feel like a child who is told that Santa Claus doesn´t really exist..
I watched some episodes of "Dr Quinn the Medicine Woman" and now I feel sad that Sully and Dr Mike are not real people who really live together in Colorado Springs... etc etc... but that they were just acting.. I feel like a child who is told that Santa Claus doesn´t really exist..
Awwwww poor Kitty...how about you moving there and making friends with a guy in )whatcha call them) -> Mockasins (?)
I´m thinking how very sorry I am for all you poor snow bound Brits. Meanwhile I am enjoying Spring-like weather here in sunny Northern California. Highs today expected to be near 70 F.
I´m thinking how very sorry I am for all you poor snow bound Brits. Meanwhile I am enjoying Spring-like weather here in sunny Northern California. Highs today expected to be near 70 F.
GG even if I bothered to check how much 70F is, I wouldn´t be able to HATE you more than I do now It´s snowing, I can´t go out for a walk as pushing a pram is no fun with snow getting into your eyes and my husband called me saying he´s stuck somewhere near Dublin and managed to make 2km within 1 hour!!! 3 cm of snow and it´s a national disaster
I´m thinking how very sorry I am for all you poor snow bound Brits. Meanwhile I am enjoying Spring-like weather here in sunny Northern California. Highs today expected to be near 70 F.
GG even if I bothered to check how much 70F is, I wouldn´t be able to HATE you more than I do now It´s snowing, I can´t go out for a walk as pushing a pram is no fun with snow getting into your eyes and my husband called me saying he´s stuck somewhere near Dublin and managed to make 2km within 1 hour!!! 3 cm of snow and it´s a national disaster
You hate me? Ok, I will help you hate me more....it´s about 21 C.
Actually, while I LOVE the warm weather, it is not good for us right now. We have had abysmal rainfall the last couple of years and are heading to a drought.
GG even if I bothered to check how much 70F is, I wouldn´t be able to HATE you more than I do now It´s snowing, I can´t go out for a walk as pushing a pram is no fun with snow getting into your eyes and my husband called me saying he´s stuck somewhere near Dublin and managed to make 2km within 1 hour!!! 3 cm of snow and it´s a national disaster
booo , here´s me moaning about roads not being cleared for a day......if you have not managed to dig your way out in a week send out SOS messages can dispatch food parcels heheh......cavan is not well known for snow clearing abilities
booo , here´s me moaning about roads not being cleared for a day......if you have not managed to dig your way out in a week send out SOS messages can dispatch food parcels heheh......cavan is not well known for snow clearing abilities
I shall remember it
Finally Mr Daydreamer made it through Dublin. Getting from Blackrock onto N3 took him 4 hours instead of 20 min!
Regrets are not about whether or not we make a mistake. Regrets are about not trying your best with all the experience you have to do the best you can in any given situation. As long as you try your best, there is no room for regrets in life.
When we have done the best we can, with the knowledge or experience we have at the time, we are living in the now for new experiences to occur. As this is a learning ground for the soul, we will all make mistakes. And we will certainly and surely learn from those mistakes.
If we are smart enough to get it, we will not repeat the lessons. If we are not smart enough, the lessons will come time and again to teach us that particular lesson. The lesson is often dressed up differently to keep you growing and changing. But it will return as the lesson the soul needs to learn before spirituality can blossom.
The secret to living without regrets is to realise we are not perfect and will make mistakes. But in knowing this, we move on from the lesson and take the value of its message.
The grieving process is about defined steps: Anger, Bargaining, Grief, finally Acceptance. In our anger we regret the things we didn´t do when the relationship was alive. We never regret what we did do, whether it turned out good or bad for the relationship.
When bargaining we try to use our regrets to release the relationship to its final rest. Even though we would give anything to continue in it for longer, we bargain our regrets to make a deal for more time, more love, more companionship.
When we grieve, it is for the lost relationship in all its many patterns and interactions. You turn around and want to say something to someone who just isn´t there. In that grief you realize that the time and love you did share was so much more important than living in regret for the things you didn´t do.
I can only say that before you find yourself in the grieving process, be sure to do all the things your mind or heart can conceive. In that way you will never regret what you didn´t do. You will have fulfilled all the joy of a relationship well nurtured.
Regrets are not about whether or not we make a mistake. Regrets are about not trying your best with all the experience you have to do the best you can in any given situation. As long as you try your best, there is no room for regrets in life.
When we have done the best we can, with the knowledge or experience we have at the time, we are living in the now for new experiences to occur. As this is a learning ground for the soul, we will all make mistakes. And we will certainly and surely learn from those mistakes.
If we are smart enough to get it, we will not repeat the lessons. If we are not smart enough, the lessons will come time and again to teach us that particular lesson. The lesson is often dressed up differently to keep you growing and changing. But it will return as the lesson the soul needs to learn before spirituality can blossom.
The secret to living without regrets is to realise we are not perfect and will make mistakes. But in knowing this, we move on from the lesson and take the value of its message.
The grieving process is about defined steps: Anger, Bargaining, Grief, finally Acceptance. In our anger we regret the things we didn´t do when the relationship was alive. We never regret what we did do, whether it turned out good or bad for the relationship.
When bargaining we try to use our regrets to release the relationship to its final rest. Even though we would give anything to continue in it for longer, we bargain our regrets to make a deal for more time, more love, more companionship.
When we grieve, it is for the lost relationship in all its many patterns and interactions. You turn around and want to say something to someone who just isn´t there. In that grief you realize that the time and love you did share was so much more important than living in regret for the things you didn´t do.
I can only say that before you find yourself in the grieving process, be sure to do all the things your mind or heart can conceive. In that way you will never regret what you didn´t do. You will have fulfilled all the joy of a relationship well nurtured.
Deep and meaningful!! One thing in my life, I regret nothing I have done..............
Hmmmmm ....I´ve been looking at the main page for ooooh all of five minutes, and I can´t for the life of me work out, what is soooo astounding on there (although it looks great btw) that has kept babyglam fixated on the page for ....ooooh.... at least 2 weeks now...
Hmmmmm ....I´ve been looking at the main page for ooooh all of five minutes, and I can´t for the life of me work out, what is soooo astounding on there (although it looks great btw) that has kept babyglam fixated on the page for ....ooooh.... at least 2 weeks now...
Could it be that she passed away having overloaded her brain with Turkish words? And, poor girl, still is there in her armchair in front of the monitor with TLC´s home page on the screen. We´ll see what´ll happen when they´ll cut off electricity
This new editing notifications on posts is the WORST thing for me! I write my posts very quickly and then usually go back and correct any errors....now I will actually have to spend more than 2 seconds on each post and check it first!
This new editing notifications on posts is the WORST thing for me! I write my posts very quickly and then usually go back and correct any errors....now I will actually have to spend more than 2 seconds on each post and check it first!
Hmmmmm ....I´ve been looking at the main page for ooooh all of five minutes, and I can´t for the life of me work out, what is soooo astounding on there (although it looks great btw) that has kept babyglam fixated on the page for ....ooooh.... at least 2 weeks now...
Here is my theory:
Just look for someone else who is "looking at the main page" and my guess is they are chatting in msn together
Hmmmmm ....I´ve been looking at the main page for ooooh all of five minutes, and I can´t for the life of me work out, what is soooo astounding on there (although it looks great btw) that has kept babyglam fixated on the page for ....ooooh.... at least 2 weeks now...
....and she is still there! My only sensible theory is that she logs in each morning and leaves her pc on to be ready to post quickly if she needs a translation from sms or msn! - otherwise I go with DD´s theory!
....and she is still there! My only sensible theory is that she logs in each morning and leaves her pc on to be ready to post quickly if she needs a translation from sms or msn! - otherwise I go with DD´s theory!
I am glad that all the 21813 users don´t do the same thing
It would be hell to spy on everyone.... and that box would be a bit crushed!
It´s boring! Something to do with leaving mini-chat open when you sign out - your name still appears when the page refreshes. Babyglam just disappeared for a minute there but now she is back - and she has been joined by kapachristy!!!
It´s boring! Something to do with leaving mini-chat open when you sign out - your name still appears when the page refreshes. Babyglam just disappeared for a minute there but now she is back - and she has been joined by kapachristy!!!
It´s boring! Something to do with leaving mini-chat open when you sign out - your name still appears when the page refreshes. Babyglam just disappeared for a minute there but now she is back - and she has been joined by kapachristy!!!
doesn´t have to be boring heh heh... either kapa and baby are having wild virtual liaisons with each other or sharing a dudu
Where are Teas and GG? I miss my fellow bed Amerikans!
Teas and I were involved in a vicious battle over a dudu and she was holding me captive in her basement for the last few weeks...I´m not sure how long really. I lost track of days after my lipstick wore down and I could no longer mark the passage of time on the wall!!
I have only just escaped and I am seeking refuge and asylum here in TC!!!
Teas and I were involved in a vicious battle over a dudu and she was holding me captive in her basement for the last few weeks...I´m not sure how long really. I lost track of days after my lipstick wore down and I could no longer mark the passage of time on the wall!!
I have only just escaped and I am seeking refuge and asylum here in TC!!!
Thank God you made it! - Have you had her arrested?? You´ve missed so much fun over the last week or so!!
Thank God you made it! - Have you had her arrested?? You´ve missed so much fun over the last week or so!!
Yes, you missed, fighting, whining, accusations, insults and the latest propaganda smears! You and teas just need to put your petty dudu differences aside!
I was actually giggling myself while typing it... community service is in my nature what else can I do with such a talented tongue but lick... icecream of course.
Quoting mltm
your deleted post made my day thank you, for putting a smile on my face today. I had a bad day.
I was actually giggling myself while typing it... community service is in my nature what else can I do with such a talented tongue but lick... icecream of course.
Sure, please do pm. I am planning to form a society of relief providers composed of community-service-oriented individuals such as myself. I believe in the way of the tongue on the path to world peace. I also think that it may cure me from ranting too much on forums.
i see you still dont understand of what i worry about.
i worry about them being deleted whatever they are.
mltm, you dont fit into democracy.
It´s a shame TLC is not like a TV programme that can be recorded and played back later. You missed the most comically hilarious exchange ever seen on TLC (in my opinion of course, and of course, that is, apart from the obscenity . . . which incidentally was mentioned on numerous occasions and not really aimed at you apart from that first instance).
I agree with you on one thing, name calling and obscenities aimed don´t hurt but I guess we agree to be bound by the rules when we sign up here and have to accept that our posts may be deleted from time to time and we may get our hands slapped.
btw . . . who deleted my "donkey" post? eh? Come on! Own up! Who did it? (Who cares? Not me)
It´s a shame TLC is not like a TV programme that can be recorded and played back later. You missed the most comically hilarious exchange ever seen on TLC (in my opinion of course, and of course, that is, apart from the obscenity . . . which incidentally was mentioned on numerous occasions and not really aimed at you apart from that first instance).
I agree with you on one thing, name calling and obscenities aimed don´t hurt but I guess we agree to be bound by the rules when we sign up here and have to accept that our posts may be deleted from time to time and we may get our hands slapped.
btw . . . who deleted my "donkey" post? eh? Come on! Own up! Who did it? (Who cares? Not me)
in fact those spoken words never get lost despite "your" idea of deleting or correcting them. they hang in air. but im afraid you dont understand it.
what i have realized is that nobody is so excited about those deleted posts as you, libra and mltm. i think i know the reason.
It´s a shame TLC is not like a TV programme that can be recorded and played back later. You missed the most comically hilarious exchange ever seen on TLC (in my opinion of course, and of course, that is, apart from the obscenity . . . which incidentally was mentioned on numerous occasions and not really aimed at you apart from that first instance).
I agree with you on one thing, name calling and obscenities aimed don´t hurt but I guess we agree to be bound by the rules when we sign up here and have to accept that our posts may be deleted from time to time and we may get our hands slapped.
btw . . . who deleted my "donkey" post? eh? Come on! Own up! Who did it? (Who cares? Not me)
in fact those spoken words never get lost despite "your" idea of deleting or correcting them. they hang in air. but im afraid you dont understand it.
You´re right, I haven´t a clue what you´re talking about . Do I care what you think? Not really. You are just another hamster on it´s wheel, like the rest of us.
Quote: femmeous
what i have realized is that nobody is so excited about those deleted posts as you, libra and mltm. i think i know the reason.
Well not many saw the exchanges in their entirety. "Excited" is inaccurate, amused would be the word I would choose. You might get excited by comical exchanges but then whatever floats your boat I guess.
You might like to take a look at the "pickles" thread as it seems there´s enough vinegar in your mood to help cynic out with his cucumber problem.
Oh and btw, if you see a stray donkey, please let handsom know . . . it´s his
in fact those spoken words never get lost despite "your" idea of deleting or correcting them. they hang in air. but im afraid you dont understand it.
what i have realized is that nobody is so excited about those deleted posts as you, libra and mltm. i think i know the reason.
The post I deleted referred to you - the rest - deleted by someone else (and I think probably catwoman if you notice her post) - were an exchange of ridiculously crude comments exchanged between cynicmystic and the handsom which made most of us laugh but had little to do with anything really and needed deleting in the hopes they would come to their senses before further embarrassing themselves. I don´t think anyone is ´excited´ about them - we just all felt they should be removed.
The post I deleted referred to you - the rest - deleted by someone else (and I think probably catwoman if you notice her post) - were an exchange of ridiculously crude comments exchanged between cynicmystic and the handsom which made most of us laugh but had little to do with anything really and needed deleting in the hopes they would come to their senses before further embarrassing themselves. I don´t think anyone is ´excited´ about them - we just all felt they should be removed.
Any chance we can move on from this now please?
go on.
to me things are clear. it was just libra who was too excited "saving me from embarasment".
old chestnut thinks that i would get caught in her net of exaggerated gossips via pms.
then we will have a full set, a nice triangle or trinity: canli, alameda and libra
They are ready and waiting Obviously these are just their namesakes. They paid to have a donkey named after each of them whilst out on a TLC trip a week last Tuesday. They thought they were going on a retreat but ended up on a donkey sanctuary. You would have been invited but there were no fat donkeys available .
Oh and me too:
The likeness is uncanny . . .
Edited (2/21/2009) by peacetrain
[I had need of the poopa scoopa]
Edited (2/21/2009) by peacetrain
You know how I look forward to your parcels of knitted fashionable garments and seasonal fruit. Every Thursday a hellocopter drops them into my garden.
You know how I look forward to your parcels of knitted fashionable garments and seasonal fruit. Every Thursday a hellocopter drops them into my garden.
Wow! I will be the belle of the beach this year!
...is that like a talking one!! - ok - off to buy the wool ......
You were supposed NOT to argue without me 17 pages in "Are Kurds Turkish or are they Kurds" and 15 in "Is Cynicmistics a chauvinististic pig or just lacking sense of proportion" Is that supposed to be a truce?!
You were supposed NOT to argue without me 17 pages in "Are Kurds Turkish or are they Kurds" and 15 in "Is Cynicmistics a chauvinististic pig or just lacking sense of proportion" Is that supposed to be a truce?!
But I warned you DD. did I not?
And when I asked for your mobile number, your reply was:
"Mobile number..well..I´ll give you a hint - it consists of numbers only, and there are no letters in it. Neither is there number 9".
You were supposed NOT to argue without me 17 pages in "Are Kurds Turkish or are they Kurds" and 15 in "Is Cynicmistics a chauvinististic pig or just lacking sense of proportion" Is that supposed to be a truce?!
DD, pls, stop provoking young knowledgable sexy turks. it may upset elder members.
I am finding this habit of emboldening parts of quotes in posts quite irritating, it dose my eyes is ........ perhaps because of the mix up with mine and Tamis washing ealier today
I am finding this habit of emboldening parts of quotes in posts quite irritating, it dose my eyes is ........ perhaps because of the mix up with mine and Tamis washing ealier today
I am finding this habit of emboldening parts of quotes in posts quite irritating, it dose my eyes is ........ perhaps because of the mix up with mine and Tamis washing ealier today
So annoying!! I give up reading half the time because I can´t keep track of who´s answering who (actually it´s more that I can´t be bothered keeping track )
I´m trying to sell it on ebay but so far no takers.
Too late. Arrangements are in the final stages. You must immediately pack your bags and prepare for the shuttle driver to pick you up and take you to the Greyhound bus station.
He will be there sometime between now and midnight.
Yes!! When you left us before because of a certain self-righteous person, who shall remain nameless. Luckily for us, you had a change of heart and came back
Yes!! When you left us before because of a certain self-righteous person, who shall remain nameless. Luckily for us, you had a change of heart and came back
That´s interesting.....that certain self-righteous person was blaming ME for that particular exile at the time....
Yes!! When you left us before because of a certain self-righteous person, who shall remain nameless. Luckily for us, you had a change of heart and came back
Oh, that´s what you mean. I thought - very scared - you meant you once ordered me to go to CA..... (which I didn´t... )
Dudu-ism is spreading fast... now I get requests at couchsurfing as well..... A 23-year old (young!!) guy from Antalya ´wants to meet me because he finds my profile so nice´..... Anyone with a ´nice´ but witty comment I can send? Helllllppppppp!!!
Dudu-ism is spreading fast... now I get requests at couchsurfing as well..... A 23-year old (young!!) guy from Antalya ´wants to meet me because he finds my profile so nice´..... Anyone with a ´nice´ but witty comment I can send? Helllllppppppp!!!
"Would you date your mother" seems to work for me
Edited (2/26/2009) by libralady
[Not that I couch surf, but works on here :):)]
Dudu-ism is spreading fast... now I get requests at couchsurfing as well..... A 23-year old (young!!) guy from Antalya ´wants to meet me because he finds my profile so nice´..... Anyone with a ´nice´ but witty comment I can send? Helllllppppppp!!!
Dear Sir,
Thank you for responding to my profile. I can´t wait to meet you. I hope you don´t mind cats, as I have 37 of them. They will be surfing the couch with you, so you won´t feel lonely. As for me, I have a slight problem with mobility as I am too fat to get off the couch. So, I hope you don´t mind surfing on just the corner of the couch. In case you are wondering, I don´t have a real bed, as my late husband died in it, and I am still waiting for them to come and remove his body. Damn Dutch coroners office is as slow as molassas....but I am sure you understand.
Thank you for responding to my profile. I can´t wait to meet you. I hope you don´t mind cats, as I have 37 of them. They will be surfing the couch with you, so you won´t feel lonely. As for me, I have a slight problem with mobility as I am too fat to get off the couch. So, I hope you don´t mind surfing on just the corner of the couch. In case you are wondering, I don´t have a real bed, as my late husband died in it, and I am still waiting for them to come and remove his body. Damn Dutch coroners office is as slow as molassas....but I am sure you understand.
Thanks for your inquiry.....
Elisabeth, you give me stomach pain and I´m laughing so loud my neighbours ask if I can make less noise!
"hi...........it is me ali i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is alibayrak20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
see the suggestion? In case you didn´t know, the best way to improve your English is to learn it from a Pole
"hi...........it is me ali i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is alibayrak20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
see the suggestion? In case you didn´t know, the best way to improve your English is to learn it from a Pole
Aenigma and some members of CGG are looking for a male stripper for that ´illegal lounge thread´..
That is low, coarse, vulgar, crude and gross..!!!
I have (had) the perfect candidate for that earlier........... someone got hold of my msn and started to try and chat with me, first I had a request for a video call, then SEX? quickly followed by WEBSEX?
Will he do?????? He sounded keen..........
Edited (2/28/2009) by libralady
[Not as keen as me to get rid of him :(:( ]
I have (had) the perfect candidate for that earlier........... someone got hold of my msn and started to try and chat with me, first I had a request for a video call, then SEX? quickly followed by WEBSEX?
Will he do?????? He sounded keen..........
But LL
could you tell us ´how someone gets hold of your msn´?
could you tell us ´how someone gets hold of your msn´?
How come they never get hold on my msn?
How come I still dont have Melek´s msn?
How come I never get holds of DD´s msn?
They all are a huge mysteries to me..
But theh!!! It is scary........ it is not on my contact list, it is a HUGE mystery to me.................I cant delete it as I cant find it!!! If you help me, I will get you Meleks MSN or DD or both (as moderator I can´t allow favourites............. )
But theh!!! It is scary........ it is not on my contact list, it is a HUGE mystery to me.................I cant delete it as I cant find it!!! If you help me, I will get you Meleks MSN or DD or both (as moderator I can´t allow favourites............. )
Don´t expect any help from Mr. "IT" Handsom .... all that talk of his "work" is just a cover, he is a waiter in Bodrum...
I have (had) the perfect candidate for that earlier........... someone got hold of my msn and started to try and chat with me, first I had a request for a video call, then SEX? quickly followed by WEBSEX?
Will he do?????? He sounded keen..........
Some girls have all the luck.
Edited (2/28/2009) by girleegirl
[clicked on the wrong smilie ;)]
Do you think I should have clicked the "accept" button??
Absolutely! And then the "Print Screen" button and then post it on TC. Who knows, it might have been Freshman (or Freshmen), our once famous TC webcam exhibitionist...
"hi...........it is me ali i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is alibayrak20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
see the suggestion? In case you didn´t know, the best way to improve your English is to learn it from a Pole
omg, i got the same exact message. hahaha. i´m gonna talk to him and see what he´s up to
"hi...........it is me ali i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is alibayrak20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
see the suggestion? In case you didn´t know, the best way to improve your English is to learn it from a Pole
"hi...........it is me thehandsom i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is thehandsom20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
"hi...........it is me thehandsom i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is thehandsom20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
well, everybody was posting the spams out on forums why cant i?
i also wanted to show that i have my own spam? whats wrong with pasting it here?
Oh what a revelation! Now I know how these poor dudu´s feel when they see their sincere and heartfelt professions of love posted out in the open for the whole world to see!!!
are you admitting now that you yourself became a dudu?
Quoting girleegirl
Oh what a revelation! Now I know how these poor dudu´s feel when they see their sincere and heartfelt professions of love posted out in the open for the whole world to see!!!
To me, reading Nazim Hikmet´s ´memleketinden insan manzaralari´ -human landscapes from my country- means, reading the most beautiful stories about most graceful people from one of the most sublime poets ever lived on this earth.
Well i tried to elude him, writing to my alter-ego... in vain!
handsome is not good at all,he lacks intelligence that me and my twin TC sister has..not to mention divine abilities...so porto do not give up so easily...if ppl confuse us -let them have fun..in lach´en..a lak´tech....
"hi...........it is me thehandsom i can speak turkish need to improve my english...so i suggest to do voice chating via yahoo massenger or skype my account in both of them is thehandsom20 it is the best way to do language and culture exchange....so i hope u add me and meet there....i am serous...and i will do my best for the benefit of both of us....i have no aims other than what i mentioned...it is just language exchange......really....hope u understand me....thanks alot."
Puzzled how strange some people can be.............. who judge others by what they think they know, without bothering to ask the person.............. I think you are far better off without such judgemental people in your life
Puzzled how strange some people can be.............. who judge others by what they think they know, without bothering to ask the person.............. I think you are far better off without such judgemental people in your life
Although it is not a story telling time let me share psychological one with you
"Once long ago in a paradise some soul was hanging around having nothing to do,the soul was curious about so many things and heaven was an ideal place in which most of the things the soul heard about during heavenly classes did not occur.
So the soul approached the Good Spirit asking"How can I learn what is envy,anger,hatred,etc when such things cannot be found here?I want to incarnate-send me to the place where I can learn all-the soul insisted.
´Well,if you want it so much,a deal ...on one condition-Great Spirit said
you can´t do it alone,you have to find other souls which will accompany you.´
´But there is one obstacle,when it happens you will not remember that here you are friends and you lead peaceful coexistence.There in order to learn you can be enemies,you can hate each other,get angry with each other,etc... so ..when you are fed up with some people around remember they could be your beloved friends in the roles of your earthy teachers
"
Just a story,???
Edited (3/2/2009) by adana
[reason]
Edited (3/2/2009) by adana
[grammar]
Edited (3/2/2009) by adana
[must like editing]
Puzzled how strange some people can be.............. who judge others by what they think they know, without bothering to ask the person.............. I think you are far better off without such judgemental people in your life
Although it is not a story telling time let me share psychological one with you
"Once long ago in a paradise some soul was hanging around having nothing to do,the soul was curious about so many things and heaven was an ideal place in which most of the things the soul heard about during heavenly classes did not occur.
So the soul approached the Good Spirit asking"How can I learn what is envy,anger,hatred,etc when such things cannot be found here?I want to incarnate-send me to the place where I can learn all-the soul insisted.
´Well,if you want it so much,a deal ...on one condition-Great Spirit said
you can´t do it alone,you have to find other souls which will accompany you.´
´But there is one obstacle,when it happens you will not remember that here you are friends and you lead peaceful coexistence.There in order to learn you can be enemies,you can hate each other,get angry with each other,etc... so ..when you are fed up with some people around remember they could be your beloved friends in the roles of your earthy teachers
Spring is in the air! The TC folks abandoned arguing over different issues (all issues for that matter) and started personal fights. perhaps I should come up with an alter-ego (Nightdreamer?) to have a nice to the point debate...On the second thought nay, I didn´t indulge in the THE fad so why should I do it this time...
Spring is in the air! The TC folks abandoned arguing over different issues (all issues for that matter) and started personal fights. perhaps I should come up with an alter-ego (Nightdreamer?) to have a nice to the point debate...On the second thought nay, I didn´t indulge in the THE fad so why should I do it this time...
I think another "certain member" had a better idea.... create an alter ego who praises all your posts and posts WONDERFUL comments about your poems!
There is a high level of jealousy in tc at the moment..
from my part what i feel is that i over sleep every event and then i come in the morning and do my home work i.e. read all the posts at my morning coffee even that i still dont get everything to the end because some posts ultimately get deleted (without my permission )
so in conslusion i would say theres too much sleeping goes on tc (from my part)
Somehow I have this inane ability to attack attract "strange" people who want to have a conversation with me.
Standing on the cold platform this morning waiting for the train to London, this woman came up to me and started asking me questions................. was I a teacher, did I work in Whitehall..................... bla bla bla thank goodness the train arrived and she sat in another carriage
Edited (3/3/2009) by libralady
[Ooooops there is something wrong with my keyboard............ keeps missing letters and putting in the wrong ones........ :)]
Somehow I have this inane ability to attack "strange" people who want to have a conversation with me.
Standing on the cold platform this morning waiting for the train to London, this woman came up to me and started asking me questions................. was I a teacher, did I work in Whitehall..................... bla bla bla thank goodness the train arrived and she sat in another carriage
A dinner... (where is Ae to read... ) discussions... and it is almost proven fact sometimes that cliches work, imposing attitudes gain respect... I could give a red dry wine at it´s best for some mannerism.
Can I cam2cam with you too handsome... I can´t seem to forget how you told you didn´t like the tellak. We just have to cam2cam dude. Just shed your inhibitions. let´s become one.
Quoting thehandsom
Beautiful femme can go to cam2cam with me anytime ..
It´s difficult to ignore the stupid and silly posts of someone despicable but I made a promise to myself and so far I can keep it..... (At another forum there is an ignore-button, meaning one does not even see the posts of the person ignored. Might be an idea here too.... )
Edited (3/4/2009) by Trudy
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It´s difficult to ignore the stupid and silly posts of someone despicable but I made a promise to myself and so far I can keep it..... (At another forum there is an ignore-button, meaning one does not even see the posts of the person ignored. Might be an idea hear too.... )
It´s difficult to ignore the stupid and silly posts of someone despicable but I made a promise to myself and so far I can keep it..... (At another forum there is an ignore-button, meaning one does not even see the posts of the person ignored. Might be an idea here too.... )
Hi Trudy, I do hope you are not referring to me. You must realise that Femmeous is the most dispicable member of TC and we all despise her. In fact, there a big conspiracy about her... if you want you can join our secret society the GFOG (Get Femme Out Gang).
Hi Trudy, I do hope you are not referring to me. You must realise that Femmeous is the most dispicable member of TC and we all despise her. In fact, there a big conspiracy about her... if you want you can join our secret society the GFOG (Get Femme Out Gang).
Femme, don´t believe her! (She was even worse in that PM)
My sweet, dear Aenigma. Nothing could be further from the truth - I adore you, I worship you. Yes, my post was about Femmeous - that evil Borat has finally worn me down. It would be a pleasure to join your secret society.
Are we all meeting again this Thursday, same time, same place as usual (dont tell Femme)
Why do I spend money on toys? NO matter how attractive looking they are, they always lose when my baby sees a remote control or an empty bottle of Pepsi...
Why do I spend money on toys? NO matter how attractive looking they are, they always lose when my baby sees a remote control or an empty bottle of Pepsi...
Why do I spend money on toys? NO matter how attractive looking they are, they always lose when my baby sees a remote control or an empty bottle of Pepsi...
One must learn to unexpect The expected within life — By erasing all predrawn conclusions And remember nothing about the future.
I remember a book..It was written by a guy called Julius Fuchik "NOTES FROM THE GALLOWS"
(http://www.trussel.com/hf/heros.htm) (it is an amazing book btw..if you read it you will be surprised how a person who knows will be excecuted very soon, can be so lively, so forgiving and at the same time does not flicker a bit about what is right )
I think (I am not sure entirely) it was in that book..
it was saying that
´in life, you have to be your own prosecuter, your own lawyer and the most importantly your own judge and the decisions the judge gives, must be implemented, even they hurt´
Look..I dont give a damn thing about sacred things or morality coming from dogmas like religions but there have always been something that I do respect in a kind of religious way and one of them is mother and her baby.
I did not like your insinuation and I would not like it from anybody..
that comment deserved to be said OHA according to me..
Look..I dont give a damn thing about sacred things or morality coming from dogmas like religions but there have always been something that I do respect in a kind of religious way and one of them is mother and her baby.
I did not like your insinuation and I would not like it from anybody..
that comment deserved to be said OHA according to me..
To recognise when you have made a mistake is one thing, but to learn from that mistake and never to make the same one again, is another thing ................
To recognise when you have made a mistake is one thing, but to learn from that mistake and never to make the same one again, is another thing ................
The tulips should be behind bars like dangerous animals; They are opening like the mouth of some great African cat
(it is not my thought, I just ran across it... it is yours)))))
i prefer poppies but anyway
Tulips by Sylvia Plath
The tulips are too excitable, it is winter here. Look how white everything is, how quiet, how snowed-in I am learning peacefulness, lying by myself quietly As the light lies on these white walls, this bed, these hands. I am nobody; I have nothing to do with explosions. I have given my name and my day-clothes up to the nurses And my history to the anaesthetist and my body to surgeons.
They have propped my head between the pillow and the sheet-cuff Like an eye between two white lids that will not shut. Stupid pupil, it has to take everything in. The nurses pass and pass, they are no trouble, They pass the way gulls pass inland in their white caps, Doing things with their hands, one just the same as another, So it is impossible to tell how many there are.
My body is a pebble to them, they tend it as water Tends to the pebbles it must run over, smoothing them gently. They bring me numbness in their bright needles, they bring me sleep. Now I have lost myself I am sick of baggage ---- My patent leather overnight case like a black pillbox, My husband and child smiling out of the family photo; Their smiles catch onto my skin, little smiling hooks.
I have let things slip, a thirty-year-old cargo boat Stubbornly hanging on to my name and address. They have swabbed me clear of my loving associations. Scared and bare on the green plastic-pillowed trolley I watched my teaset, my bureaus of linen, my books Sink out of sight, and the water went over my head. I am a nun now, I have never been so pure.
I didn´t want any flowers, I only wanted To lie with my hands turned up and be utterly empty. How free it is, you have no idea how free ---- The peacefulness is so big it dazes you, And it asks nothing, a name tag, a few trinkets. It is what the dead close on, finally; I imagine them Shutting their mouths on it, like a Communion tablet.
The tulips are too red in the first place, they hurt me. Even through the gift paper I could hear them breathe Lightly, through their white swaddlings, like an awful baby. Their redness talks to my wound, it corresponds. They are subtle: they seem to float, though they weigh me down, Upsetting me with their sudden tongues and their colour, A dozen red lead sinkers round my neck.
Nobody watched me before, now I am watched. The tulips turn to me, and the window behind me Where once a day the light slowly widens and slowly thins, And I see myself, flat, ridiculous, a cut-paper shadow Between the eye of the sun and the eyes of the tulips, And I hve no face, I have wanted to efface myself. The vivid tulips eat my oxygen.
Before they came the air was calm enough, Coming and going, breath by breath, without any fuss. Then the tulips filled it up like a loud noise. Now the air snags and eddies round them the way a river Snags and eddies round a sunken rust-red engine. They concentrate my attention, that was happy Playing and resting without committing itself.
The walls, also, seem to be warming themselves. The tulips should be behind bars like dangerous animals; They are opening like the mouth of some great African cat, And I am aware of my heart: it opens and closes Its bowl of red blooms out of sheer love of me. The water I taste is warm and salt, like the sea, And comes from a country far away as health.
But I fear I am too much of a horder to ever make it work!!!
I remember my first day at Uni. We were told that, as prospective teachers, out lives would never be the same beause we would become horders. "oooh that looks interesting I´ll keep that , I may be able to use that some day (never)" ha ha ha
I hereby would like to officially file a protest against your not working on Sundays. I was hoping I could drop off my landry in the laundrammamammama since I (unlike some people) have to work today. I guess I´ll have to buy some new clothes today.
you are lucky. look at us. we are bored. we dont know what to do, so we organise some vigils for cyber souls. while you can keep yourself busy working hard.
Quoting Melek74
Got any extras?
I hereby would like to officially file a protest against your not working on Sundays. I was hoping I could drop off my landry in the laundrammamammama since I (unlike some people) have to work today. I guess I´ll have to buy some new clothes today.
you are lucky. look at us. we are bored. we dont know what to do, so we organise some vigils for cyber souls. while you can keep yourself busy working hard.
I wish, I´m manning the hotline today. Not that many people want to kill themselves on a Sunday. We have a brilliant automated system though:
Hello, you´ve reached the psychiatric hotline. The counselor on staff is away at the vigil. For assistance please press the appropriate option. If you´re depressed, it doesn´t matter which number you press, nobody will pick up anyway. If you´re schizophrenic, please listen to the little voice inside you and it will tell you which number you press. If you have multiple personalities, please press 1, 2, and 3. If you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, please press #4 repeatedly. If you have paranoid thoughts, please stay on the line, so we can trace the call. If you´re passive-agressive ... Alameda? Alameda? I told you not to call here so often ....
Edited (3/8/2009) by Melek74 Edited (3/8/2009) by Melek74
I wish, I´m manning the hotline today. Not that many people want to kill themselves on a Sunday. We have a brilliant automated system though:
Hello, you´ve reached the psychiatric hotline. The counselor on staff is away at the vigil. For assistance please press the appropriate option. If you´re depressed, it doesn´t matter which number you press, nobody will pick up anyway. If you´re schizophrenic, please listen to the little voice inside you and it will tell you which number you press. If you have multiple personalities, please press 1, 2, and 3. If you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, please press #4 repeatedly. If you have paranoid thoughts, please stay on the line, so we can trace the call. If you´re passive-agressive ... Alameda? Alameda? I told you not to call here so often ....
OMG this must be framed and hung on a wall its a killer comment!
Quoting Melek74
Hello, you´ve reached the psychiatric hotline. The counselor on staff is away at the vigil. For assistance please press the appropriate option. If you´re depressed, it doesn´t matter which number you press, nobody will pick up anyway. If you´re schizophrenic, please listen to the little voice inside you and it will tell you which number you press. If you have multiple personalities, please press 1, 2, and 3. If you have obsessive-compulsive disorder, please press #4 repeatedly. If you have paranoid thoughts, please stay on the line, so we can trace the call. If you´re passive-agressive ... Alameda? Alameda? I told you not to call here so often ....
Maybe not necessary for all to tell, but those interested in Turkey pictures and who haven´t noticed: I´m uploading my pictures again. So far 532 and - rough guess - over 300 to come.
Quitting smoking after 18 years is one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life!
Aww....good luck porto! My husband quit last year and I think it is still a little difficult for him but his asthma has mysteriously disappeared! I hope you are feeling better soon!
Aww....good luck porto! My husband quit last year and I think it is still a little difficult for him but his asthma has mysteriously disappeared! I hope you are feeling better soon!
Thank you Lisa, hope the same, too. It is said first month is harder... ))) Glad to know your husband is better!
Quitting smoking after 18 years is one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life!
Tell me about it! I managed to quit smoking when I was pregnant and now...I´m smoking again! With every single pack of cigarettes I proise myslef it´s the last one. And you know what? It never is
Tell me about it! I managed to quit smoking when I was pregnant and now...I´m smoking again! With every single pack of cigarettes I proise myslef it´s the last one. And you know what? It never is
Keeping fingers crossed for you though!
Thank you!
yes... well.. thinking at your health and stuff should be a good motivator... maybe? I will get back with details when I am through with it.
Bod is off work sick and having to live at his ex´s as he has had a fire at home making his own house uninhabitable. Living here is OK except I can´t drive and there is nothing anywhere near here - the nearest shop is a 40 min walk away
Bod is off work sick and having to live at his ex´s as he has had a fire at home making his own house uninhabitable. Living here is OK except I can´t drive and there is nothing anywhere near here - the nearest shop is a 40 min walk away
Oh Bod, that is awful.... Here is a bunch flowers and hope everything is soon OK.
I am still thinking if I start a new thread as ´western women : ) ´ with picture of ´Dita Von Teese´ or put couple of s under every single picture in Turkish Men thread..(apart from Ayhan Isik´s picture)
I am still thinking if I start a new thread as ´western women : ) ´ with picture of ´Dita Von Teese´ or put couple of s under every single picture in Turkish Men thread..(apart from Ayhan Isik´s picture)
I am still thinking if I start a new thread as ´western women : ) ´ with picture of ´Dita Von Teese´ or put couple of s under every single picture in Turkish Men thread..(apart from Ayhan Isik´s picture)
Forum rules post 3 - one cannot object on a forum rule only in private through PM´s to admin or mods!!!! What about an open debate?!
Forum rules 4 - if one is continously provocing fights and stuffs between users (in other words INSTIGATING) one will be deleted - how, upon which criteria will this be decided? Upon user´s willingness to jump to fight?
I LOVE CENSORSHIP!!! It brings along law and order! Yeah!!!
I sometimes do wonder why on Earth and Solar System I frequent this website...
Yeah, do you have a problem with that, you bed salak amerikan? Opps I broke the rules
Democracy is not something we can practice on this site.....we are in a dictatorship.....and our dictators are demanding that we play nice OR ELSE! Stop being so contrary Aenigma!
I expect the next rules will read something like this:
1. You will not believe in any philosophy, religion, or creed. Any expression to the contrary will be deleted.
2. You will only post your opinions if it promotes the greatness of Turkey. If you happen to have a contrary opinion - keep it to yourself.
3. Do try to keep the Turks on this site happy. Enough said.
4. Do not try to understand the mods. This will cause conflict and will make you use common sense. We discourage the use of common sense since it can be construed as an opinion.
I expect the next rules will read something like this:
1. You will not believe in any philosophy, religion, or creed. Any expression to the contrary will be deleted.
2. You will only post your opinions if it promotes the greatness of Turkey. If you happen to have a contrary opinion - keep it to yourself.
3. Do try to keep the Turks on this site happy. Enough said.
4. Do not try to understand the mods. This will cause conflict and will make you use common sense. We discourage the use of common sense since it can be construed as an opinion.
Do you have any to add?
Only my own new rule
5. Do not try to argue with Tami or Sui. You will waste precious hours of your life in doing so, and at the end of the day, you may as well try to discuss the issue with a dead sheep
5. Do not try to argue with Tami or Sui. You will waste precious hours of your life in doing so, and at the end of the day, you may as well try to discuss the issue with a dead sheep
6. You can only refer to dead sheep if they died of natural causes.
"There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted without a warning."
I don´t read this as meaning you can´t argue your point in forums - in my opinion it is intended to try and stop personal animosity between some members getting in the way of your right to do so.
"There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted without a warning."
I don´t read this as meaning you can´t argue your point in forums - in my opinion it is intended to try and stop personal animosity between some members getting in the way of your right to do so.
There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted again without a warning.
This rule is added to make moderators´ job easier at monitoring the forum.
I actually don’t have much of a problem with this rule as long as the “contributors” are looked at with equanimity and fairness. I wonder how this would be administered though. Is warning/deletion at the discretion of mods/admins? Will warnings/deletions be because of a complaint?
From what I have seen, it appears that all it takes is one person to make a complaint and posts will get deleted without much thought as to what part the “complainer” played in the back and forth. Said complainer’s comments, which may be just as insulting and inflammatory, are left just because the accused does not feel the need to complain.
There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted again without a warning.
This rule is added to make moderators´ job easier at monitoring the forum.
I actually don’t have much of a problem with this rule as long as the “contributors” are looked at with equanimity and fairness. I wonder how this would be administered though. Is warning/deletion at the discretion of mods/admins? Will warnings/deletions be because of a complaint?
From what I have seen, it appears that all it takes is one person to make a complaint and posts will get deleted without much thought as to what part the “complainer” played in the back and forth. Said complainer’s comments, which may be just as insulting and inflammatory, are left just because the accused does not feel the need to complain.
"There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted without a warning."
I don´t read this as meaning you can´t argue your point in forums - in my opinion it is intended to try and stop personal animosity between some members getting in the way of your right to do so.
LIR, LIR, LIR.......please don´t take me so seriously. Besides, what is wrong with a little animosity?
There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted again without a warning.
This rule is added to make moderators´ job easier at monitoring the forum.
I actually don’t have much of a problem with this rule as long as the “contributors” are looked at with equanimity and fairness. I wonder how this would be administered though. Is warning/deletion at the discretion of mods/admins? Will warnings/deletions be because of a complaint?
From what I have seen, it appears that all it takes is one person to make a complaint and posts will get deleted without much thought as to what part the “complainer” played in the back and forth. Said complainer’s comments, which may be just as insulting and inflammatory, are left just because the accused does not feel the need to complain.
It is no longer an option.....please get in line and you will be given your opinions!
what are you talking about... it´s not about your opinions, but about how you express them. and yes, we are not a democracy here, but not a dictatorship either -- we do listen to people´s concerns. and this rule is not for people who joke around, but those who make us lock or delete threads or have to constantly watched, like certain dudus.
what are you talking about... it´s not about your opinions, but about how you express them. and yes, we are not a democracy here, but not a dictatorship either -- we do listen to people´s concerns. and this rule is not for people who joke around, but those who make us lock or delete threads or have to constantly watched, like certain dudus.
Personally, I don´t see the point in making complaints to admin, so I don´t. Really there is no deterrent anyway. If a member is deleted they simply join again, and again . . .
what are you talking about... it´s not about your opinions, but about how you express them. and yes, we are not a democracy here, but not a dictatorship either -- we do listen to people´s concerns. and this rule is not for people who joke around, but those who make us lock or delete threads or have to constantly watched, like certain dudus.
I realize that catwoman, I was just teasing. Do you need another fur ball treatment? How about some nice catnip?
I wonder how popular your site would be without those "dudus" you seem to point at with your bold letters...
Wouldn´t your favorite "dudu-luvers", who happen to be above the guidelines when it comes to vulgarity, feel lonely with nobody to pick on?
It is good that you guys have rules. But then, those rules should be applied fairly without double-standard or personal favors.
Another point that you seem to stay silent about is the amount of "Turk-bashing" that seems to be perfectly legit on this site. Not that I am a nationalist, and would not give a rat´s bum about it, but one of these days, you guys may actually bump into a truely "nationalistic" Turkish cyber nerd, who will take it personally. Then, we would see whether you would delete his posts or whether he would delete the mods together with the whole site.
Some of the posts that the mods allow to stay are disgusting. So stop acting like the snow white...
Quoting catwoman
what are you talking about... it´s not about your opinions, but about how you express them. and yes, we are not a democracy here, but not a dictatorship either -- we do listen to people´s concerns. and this rule is not for people who joke around, but those who make us lock or delete threads or have to constantly watched, like certain dudus.
Yes exactly..what a threat...we are so scared!! yeah yeah..
so many comics here, offff!
"cat, if you dont shut them up all, a real turk will come and nuke your site. but of course, im not a nationalist, i dont even bother to move my cobra!"
"cat, if you dont shut them up all, a real turk will come and nuke your site. but of course, im not a nationalist, i dont even bother to move my cobra!"
Unfortunately, you are incapable of making the cobra move
You will have to settle down for a grass snake
Quoting femmeous
so many comics here, offff!
"cat, if you dont shut them up all, a real turk will come and nuke your site. but of course, im not a nationalist, i dont even bother to move my cobra!"
Yeah very good for you with your degree in computer science...
I am sure you are an MIS genie. Nevertheless, most of top hackers neither have degrees like you nor do they happen to be older than 18...
Some happen to hack into Citibank others into the Pentagon... Some post photoshopped images of Bus Junior that the National Post... Others dilute 1 cent per account from each bank in the world...
One of them is known as "Venom", A Turkish hacker, who is currently jailed not for getting caught for hacking, but for tax evasion...
For your information, one doesn´t need a drgree in computer science to hack in style, nor do they have to be licenced programmers...
Most happen to be whiz kid internet nerds...
You still haven´t answered the question mr. expert... What is so unhackable about your computer? Are you immune?
Any more clever wisdom? ...
Quoting thehandsom
Somebody should know that I am holding a degree in computer science and has been working as a programmer for a long time..
what a Lord Muck....your ego is still scratching the ceiling!
I am not..
If you keep insisting that a computer nerd will hack into my computer I will warn you saying that I am a programmer to stop YOU making yourself a fool..
What is the big deal about being a programmer anyway!! PHEW!!
Are you saying that you are such a programmer that no one can actually hack into your computer on this planet?
You should work for the Pentagon man. They need talent like you in the cyber warfare that they have been engaged in the past decade. Where have you been?
Quoting thehandsom
I am not..
If you keep insisting that a computer nerd will hack into my computer I will warn you saying that I am a programmer to stop YOU making yourself a fool..
What is the big deal about being a programmer anyway!! PHEW!!
Are you mad that handsom turned you down on my DuDu thread? Don´t be so angry adana kebab...
Ohhh bebegim,I have already forgotten that you keep on matching me with theH..thank you for your care but it is none of your business...animosity between us is as wide and eternal as the universe..so give up,pls,even your Cobra dance will not make me go for it!!!!
Go give handsom a wet little kiss on his cheek... Make him blush...
I promise.. If you just do that one little thing I asked, I will be your cam slave...
Forever... and ever
Quoting adana
Ohhh bebegim,I have already forgotten that you keep on matching me with theH..thank you for your care but it is none of your business...animosity between us is as wide and eternal as the universe..so give up,pls,even your Cobra dance will not make me go for it!!!!
Go give handsom a wet little kiss on his cheek... Make him blush...
I promise.. If you just do that one little thing I asked, I will be your cam slave...
Forever... and ever
I love being begged...in this situation
will think about it.....under one condition....you will quit kebab partchange white speedo to red...stop giving my msn in public..list of one condition not closed yet....
will think about it.....under one condition....you will quit kebab partchange white speedo to red...stop giving my msn in public..list of one condition not closed yet....
I don´t read this as meaning you can´t argue your point in forums - in my opinion it is intended to try and stop personal animosity between some members getting in the way of your right to do so.
There will be a rule added to our TC forum rules: if a user continuously contributes to fights and problems between users, that person may/will be deleted from the site after the third warning from an administrator. If the user returns to the website, and continues with the same behavior, she/he may be deleted again without a warning.
This rule is added to make moderators´ job easier at monitoring the forum.
I actually don’t have much of a problem with this rule as long as the “contributors” are looked at with equanimity and fairness. I wonder how this would be administered though. Is warning/deletion at the discretion of mods/admins? Will warnings/deletions be because of a complaint?
From what I have seen, it appears that all it takes is one person to make a complaint and posts will get deleted without much thought as to what part the “complainer” played in the back and forth. Said complainer’s comments, which may be just as insulting and inflammatory, are left just because the accused does not feel the need to complain.
No, this is something that will come from the Admin after a consensus when we realize that a person notoriously causes trouble, for example by constantly harassing someone in the forum, or by contributing to serious fights, or something of that sort. At the moment we decided only the main admin to be sending official warnings. Moderators can send warnings in pm´s about specific issues and posts, but these ´warnings´ are not the same thing.
Now, I am aware of a few characters such as those you described...
I would be more than delighted to provide a list (in other words snitch) if the administrators would be willing to listen...
I am here to do my best best to make TLC a better place...
Let´s get rid of the trouble makers...
I know who they are... I really do...
Quoting catwoman
No, this is something that will come from the Admin after a consensus when we realize that a person notoriously causes trouble, for example by constantly harassing someone in the forum, or by contributing to serious fights, or something of that sort. At the moment we decided only the main admin to be sending official warnings. Moderators can send warnings in pm´s about specific issues and posts, but these ´warnings´ are not the same thing.
No, this is something that will come from the Admin after a consensus when we realize that a person notoriously causes trouble, for example by constantly harassing someone in the forum, or by contributing to serious fights, or something of that sort. At the moment we decided only the main admin to be sending official warnings. Moderators can send warnings in pm´s about specific issues and posts, but these ´warnings´ are not the same thing.
The warm weather is bringing out the nutters - I have been asked some very strange questions today by the dear "public"..... I am desparately trying to feel the lurveeee though!
The warm weather is bringing out the nutters - I have been asked some very strange questions today by the dear "public"..... I am desparately trying to feel the lurveeee though!
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like you are on loop when reading cynics posts?
First it was all about handsom (who he continues to stalk)…..then he went on and on about fish, fish, fish….then he moved on to harassing Trudy….and now he is on the kitty parade.
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like you are on loop when reading cynics posts?
First it was all about handsom (who he continues to stalk)…..then he went on and on about fish, fish, fish….then he moved on to harassing Trudy….and now he is on the kitty parade.
Get a new shtick dude!!!
YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha
It is much more like an untrained puppy that tries to bite your feet really..
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like you are on loop when reading cynics posts?
First it was all about handsom (who he continues to stalk)…..then he went on and on about fish, fish, fish….then he moved on to harassing Trudy….and now he is on the kitty parade.
Get a new shtick dude!!!
YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come on, his posts are full of knowledge and logics with which he invaded hearts and minds of some female tc members
We are searching several databases to find a perfect match for tami. There doesn´t seem to be any American women who are willing..........Perhaps we can check elsewhere? Femme, do you have any unmarried, somewhat shaven down Borat relatives for him?
We are searching several databases to find a perfect match for tami. There doesn´t seem to be any American women who are willing..........Perhaps we can check elsewhere? Femme, do you have any unmarried, somewhat shaven down Borat relatives for him?
I have been asking around here today - it seems nobody wants him ermmm is free to date him
We are searching several databases to find a perfect match for tami. There doesn´t seem to be any American women who are willing..........Perhaps we can check elsewhere? Femme, do you have any unmarried, somewhat shaven down Borat relatives for him?
why do you need shaved Lis? Maybe he would prefer other way round
Tired of needing visa with not just a small amount to pay but loads of paperwork to fill in for almost every country you like to visit? Become Dutch and most of the world is open to you. But beware, thanks to my ´fine´ government the demands for this have increased. From now on, people wanting the Dutch citizenship need to: pass a language + culture exam (European level A2, costs about 550 euro excluding lessons), live in the country 5 years (but only 3 if you are married to a Dutch citizen) and give up your other citizenship as two nationalities are no longer accepted.
Effects of these new rules: the number of people that want to become Dutch has decreased enormously. In 1996 there were 30.000 Turkish people in the Netherlands who wanted to get a Dutch passport and in 2007 there were only 1800 Turkish people with the same wish. And I guess the same goes for people from other countries.
Tired of needing visa with not just a small amount to pay but loads of paperwork to fill in for almost every country you like to visit? Become Dutch and most of the world is open to you. But beware, thanks to my ´fine´ government the demands for this have increased. From now on, people wanting the Dutch citizenship need to: pass a language + culture exam (European level A2, costs about 550 euro excluding lessons), live in the country 5 years (but only 3 if you are married to a Dutch citizen) and give up your other citizenship as two nationalities are no longer accepted.
Effects of these new rules: the number of people that want to become Dutch has decreased enormously. In 1996 there were 30.000 Turkish people in the Netherlands who wanted to get a Dutch passport and in 2007 there were only 1800 Turkish people with the same wish. And I guess the same goes for people from other countries.
I read about this a couple of weeks ago, and the culture test involves being exposed to porn and homosexuality! Like I said at the time, that might put a few people off
I am literally crapping bricks laughing at this one...
Nice one libra
Quoting libralady
I read about this a couple of weeks ago, and the culture test involves being exposed to porn and homosexuality! Like I said at the time, that might put a few people off
Tired of needing visa with not just a small amount to pay but loads of paperwork to fill in for almost every country you like to visit? Become Dutch and most of the world is open to you. But beware, thanks to my ´fine´ government the demands for this have increased. From now on, people wanting the Dutch citizenship need to: pass a language + culture exam (European level A2, costs about 550 euro excluding lessons), live in the country 5 years (but only 3 if you are married to a Dutch citizen) and give up your other citizenship as two nationalities are no longer accepted.
Effects of these new rules: the number of people that want to become Dutch has decreased enormously. In 1996 there were 30.000 Turkish people in the Netherlands who wanted to get a Dutch passport and in 2007 there were only 1800 Turkish people with the same wish. And I guess the same goes for people from other countries.
buuuufuuu. bulka z maslem! in poland you have to wait about 10-12 years (doesnt matter if you are married or not) in order to receive the citizenship, the police checking you up every year twice or so with stupid questions like if you are a member of a terrorist group and if you own automatic weapon.
if i didnt have a headache now, i would give you a nice post to this. ehhhhhhhh!
OH? Do you have headache canim? I told you not to tear yourself apart to cook or do something for me! I need you one piece Do you want me to bring you Hypocrat on the way back from work?
OH? Do you have headache canim? I told you not to tear yourself apart to cook or do something for me! I need you one piece Do you want me to bring you Hypocrat on the way back from work?
Today in London I arrived to find the underground station closed, so I had to walk to the office - then when I was coming home tonight, the underground was delay due to "Person under train"....... and that is the description they use
Today in London I arrived to find the underground station closed, so I had to walk to the office - then when I was coming home tonight, the underground was delay due to "Person under train"....... and that is the description they use
it is happening all the time now the one yesterday was only 30....cannot ever comprehend the pain someone must be in to have to do that to themselves
i can use the word H*J in my posts and i can heavily insult everyone who dares speak against me and my posts wont get deleted.
but if i question someone´s logic regarding history using a slight sarcasm it gets deleted, because im Femme.
Canimbebegimsekerim Femme abla it´s spelt with CH
and on deleting and warnings, almost everybody has been warned and got their posts deleted. What´s the big deal? Why cry about it? Want a hankie or a pat on the head? Life is tough, mods are rough (yeah, right) and TC goes on...
and on deleting and warnings, almost everybody has been warned and got their posts deleted. What´s the big deal? Why cry about it? Want a hankie or a pat on the head? Life is tough, mods are rough (yeah, right) and TC goes on...
no, its not a big deal at all. my posts get deleted everyday, but i dont moan everyday. its just unfair. someone can insult right and left. but your little comments get deleted because that someone barks that "piece of shit" is something insulting, while it wasnt directed at anyone.
its gone, deleted. oh shame on you, you arent here to look after us.
Oi! I´ve got my private little terrorist to look after I can´t be here 24/7 so you should be on guard during my absence And I wouldn´t worry about people insulting Dobrowskisness (they humiliate themselves perfectly without our help )
Oi! I´ve got my private little terrorist to look after I can´t be here 24/7 so you should be on guard during my absence And I wouldn´t worry about people insulting Dobrowskisness (they humiliate themselves perfectly without our help )
you are lucky with your little terrorist. you dont witness a daily terror on here.
btw, we dont talk about doborwoski being insulted. i mean who cares? kazakhs became kazakhis, then cossacks, well, who cares?
its not my point. its about regime that rises once to deal the terror and you get caught up in a wave.
One of our great writers Cetin Altan once said that ´Turkish (eastern) men never had duelling tradition. Instead, we have had ambush tradition´.
My thought is , if we had the duel tradition, would some of Turkish men would be different? more gentlemen? more trustworthy? more discreet? more of a man like man?
Do you mean Turkish men, or "eastern" men? Or, eastern Turkish men?
Or, all of the above?
Regarding your gentleman-like inquiry about melek74, you should ask her yourself...
I am sure you know very well how to contact her.
It is very gentlemen-like of you, as a fellow Turkish man, to pick on her like this on the forum btw...
Maybe, Cetin Altan was right, after all...
Quoting thehandsom
One of our great writers Cetin Altan once said that ´Turkish (eastern) men never had duelling tradition. Instead, we have had ambush tradition´.
My thought is , if we had the duel tradition, would some of Turkish men would be different? more gentlemen? more trustworthy? more discreet? more of a man like man?
One of our great writers Cetin Altan once said that ´Turkish (eastern) men never had duelling tradition. Instead, we have had ambush tradition´.
My thought is , if we had the duel tradition, would some of Turkish men would be different? more gentlemen? more trustworthy? more discreet? more of a man like man?
And would melek74 still be here ?
What does she have to do with duels? Somebody please brief me on what´s been on TC over the weekend, I hate missing info
One of our great writers Cetin Altan once said that ´Turkish (eastern) men never had duelling tradition. Instead, we have had ambush tradition´.
My thought is , if we had the duel tradition, would some of Turkish men would be different? more gentlemen? more trustworthy? more discreet? more of a man like man?
And would melek74 still be here ?
Well I guess you should know. If Melek left, I´m sure it was on her own terms....but I do remember Azymuth commenting on why she was leaving.....she was welcomed so nicely.
à think whatever the reason is ´which i dont know it´, but Melek didnt stated it before she left, and just left, so i guess we better keep it that way too.
We wouldn´t want to emberrass anyone. (not referring to melek btw)
Quoting CANLI
à think whatever the reason is ´which i dont know it´, but Melek didnt stated it before she left, and just left, so i guess we better keep it that way too.
à think whatever the reason is ´which i dont know it´, but Melek didnt stated it before she left, and just left, so i guess we better keep it that way too.
My thought is , if we had the duel tradition, would some of Turkish men would be different? more gentlemen? more trustworthy? more discreet? more of a man like man?
So you mean, Turkish men and as general Eastern men are less of being gentelmen, less trustworthy, less discreet, less of a man like man ?!
If you only knew what a great personality Cetin Altan was, you would perhaps feel how he must be twitching for having been quoted by h in this manner...
Poor man. A true intellectual (referring to Altan, not h) misrepresented (by h)...
Quoting CANLI
thehandsom, it was you who said that in here, so you should have expected people to have their thoughts about it as well, logical mý ?! lol
this morning i was watching "the noddy" boy. where he solves a problem. and i thought that it is a brilliant way to raise your children. to teach children how to face and solve problems.
its not the same where a wolf chases a hare, or anything nationalistic or a political propaganda to brainwash little minds.
what is double? is it a double portion? how much of water i must add? and ice, where shall i get it?
maybe you should order it in lounge?
Indeed a double portion (make it triple), 2 ice cubes and the water besides it in another glass. I asked you to pour it because in the Lounge no one ever serves me (though I tip quite generous!).
Indeed a double portion (make it triple), 2 ice cubes and the water besides it in another glass. I asked you to pour it because in the Lounge no one ever serves me (though I tip quite generous!).
i will do everything for your tips. i even will come and iron your clothes.
thank you for teaching me how to serve raki. wait a minute, i will fetch one from the basement.
Indeed a double portion (make it triple), 2 ice cubes and the water besides it in another glass. I asked you to pour it because in the Lounge no one ever serves me (though I tip quite generous!).
then you are a typical gang_girl. you are mean and stupid. your posts contain zero information. you are a simple-minded cultureless uneducated amerikan.
Even theH seems to have become too bored to post...
is there anything to post?
shall i post my saturday? i hung my laundry out, a sunny day. then i visited the nearest park to float on a swan. we had ice-cream, crisps, coffee. and im back at home to report all this to you for your boring saturday. libra may have a look and be jealous of my posts.
shall i post my saturday? i hung my laundry out, a sunny day. then i visited the nearest park to float on a swan. we had ice-cream, crisps, coffee. and im back at home to report all this to you for your boring saturday. libra may have a look and be jealous of my posts.
OMG
Exactly my point, you are much better when you have someone to argue with
And what would you have done if she was? Shown your muscles?
He would have done his usual mating ritual of shaking his shaggy hair and stamping his feet on the ground.....isn´t that how he lured us all into his harem?
He would have done his usual mating ritual of shaking his shaggy hair and stamping his feet on the ground.....isn´t that how he lured us all into his harem?
I have a cloggie! As a matter of fact I have 3 of them - two back home in Poland - original used Dutch klompe I got when our school did a students exchange with a school in Zwolle and the third one is actually a flower pot mr daydreamer brought me from a trip of his (I was tring to grow flowers in it as it came with some weird bulbs but I failed. On the second thought maybe it´s better. You never know what kind of stuff you´re bringing from there )
Anyway, I wanted share a thought with yous (I know the word "yous" is incorrect but I love the way the Irish use it ):
I have a cloggie! As a matter of fact I have 3 of them - two back home in Poland - original used Dutch klompe I got when our school did a students exchange with a school in Zwolle and the third one is actually a flower pot mr daydreamer brought me from a trip of his (I was tring to grow flowers in it as it came with some weird bulbs but I failed. On the second thought maybe it´s better. You never know what kind of stuff you´re bringing from there)
Anyway, I wanted share a thought with yous (I know the word "yous" is incorrect but I love the way the Irish use it ):
i thought this grows only in boratstan i remember the situation when talking to western guests they were shocked that all types of those plants grow in Almaty almost in everywhere in the city and nobody knows about them and nobody cares, because nobody knows of their existence.
Thank [insert your chosen deity here] that I can connect my laptop to the internet via my mobile phone. I have just moved into a new house for six months while my house is being sorted and I don´t have a ´phone line yet!
It has only taken six weeks to get sorted - but at last I have my own living space again!!!
They didn´t sell her for a limping camel again, now, did they? The last time got them into real trouble once the new owner unpacked the box and saw the contents
10 posts (ermm 9 posts) to go and I am on top of Libralady
I might just post a few Janissary style smilies...
Rushing off to check! You are taking advantage of my busy working week
This is not fair!! I have not been able to get to a computer til tonight and you have got on top of me.......... I know your game, trying get under thehandsom
Edited (3/26/2009) by libralady
[Had to check out the seriousness of the situation............. ]
Femme is fine - but recovering from a nasty case of sunburn. I have left a few sticks of Yemeni Rock in the Transation Lounge but it´s first come, first served I´m afraid.
Femme is fine - but recovering from a nasty case of sunburn. I have left a few sticks of Yemeni Rock in the Transation Lounge but it´s first come, first served I´m afraid.
P.S. Did you get our postcard?
Wowwwwwwwww! Yemeni Rock is my favourite!
I got your postcard today thank you. But ... you didn´t give me important news...like..what style of Burka are they all wearing this spring? Shall I stick to blue?
I got your postcard today thank you. But ... you didn´t give me important news...like..what style of Burka are they all wearing this spring? Shall I stick to blue?
I got your postcard today thank you. But ... you didn´t give me important news...like..what style of Burka are they all wearing this spring? Shall I stick to blue?
according to someone the west hates muslims, but somehow the west has allowed millions of muslims to settle in the west with their full rights to practise and spread their religion.
Femme - the harem has obviously stolen your ability to speak proper English - please report to the Translation Lounge for a refresher course as soon as possible.
Femme - the harem has obviously stolen your ability to speak proper English - please report to the Translation Lounge for a refresher course as soon as possible.
San marino versus Poland..world cup 2010 elimination-0-10....
the joy exactly the same like after taking a candy from a kid away......
poland-professional footballers...it is not an art to win over plumbers,carpenters,bakers,shoemakers....in case of San Marino.And do not say we Poles cannot laugh at ourselves)))
Btw.It is good that A.Małysz or r.Kubica do not play soccer.........
San marino versus Poland..world cup 2010 elimination-0-10....
the joy exactly the same like after taking a candy from a kid away......
poland-professional footballers...it is not an art to win over plumbers,carpenters,bakers,shoemakers....in case of San Marino.And do not say we Poles cannot laugh at ourselves)))
Btw.It is good that A.Małysz or r.Kubica do not play soccer.........
I thought you were a Turkish man... off.. .that psych degree of yours..
congratulations to theH and catwoman on their extraordinary efforts today to make some awesome members leave!
Nobody makes anyone ask to be deleted...they do it of their own accord. And many times when people try to guess why someone left, they end up being wrong anyway.
I hope that the members that left today will do as they have done before and come back and I also hope that they did not leave for the reason that you assume. It would be very disappointing for such strong characters to walk away because of frustration.
How friendships can develop and then be destroyed by the interference, possessiveness and jealousy of others ............... and a few other things about friendships.
If this wasn´t my site, I would have left a long time ago because of awesome members like you.
this is not your site, only Suleyman Fatih Akgul´s site, and you must be grateful to him for making you a babydoll (this site I mean) to play.
by the way some, members have left from here as it seems. It doesn´t matter really. They´ll cum back. They can´t live without this babydoll. wartrain, backtrain, shittrain, playtrain, bedtrain etc? guess what... let´s make a poll.
this is not your site, only Suleyman Fatih Akgul´s site, and you must be grateful to him for making you a babydoll (this site I mean) to play.
by the way some, members have left from here as it seems. It doesn´t matter really. They´ll cum back. They can´t live without this babydoll. wartrain, backtrain, shittrain, playtrain, bedtrain etc? guess what... let´s make a poll.
My thoughts today are more than slightly envious.......
I have just dropped my ex off at the airport. She is now sitting in the departure lounge at Manchester Airport, drinking Gin & Tonic and waiting to board her flight to Ãstanbul!
Weird things are happening...no fights, no arguments, Alpha woke up from his winter sleep and....Babyglam got through the main page and is reading poem 8 now Was there anything about that in the TLC Great Book of Prophecies?
Weird things are happening...no fights, no arguments, Alpha woke up from his winter sleep and....Babyglam got through the main page and is reading poem 8 now Was there anything about that in the TLC Great Book of Prophecies?
The great book of prophecies says the following:
.......and low, there was a great wailing and the clouds came upon TC and many members fled. But then a great prophet appeared and said unto them...."stop your whining lest thou be struck down by massive amounts of privates messages."
.......and low, there was a great wailing and the clouds came upon TC and many members fled. But then a great prophet appeared and said unto them...."stop your whining lest thou be struck down by massive amounts of privates messages."
I didn´t whine but still no arguements, no fights and no private messages.....
The prophecy further states......."be careful what ye wish for, lest it be granted."
I seem to remember many many many posts of other members (not Trudy) saying things like...."why can´t we just all get along?" Well, now it seems nobody has anything to say so we are all getting along....wish granted!
The prophecy further states......."be careful what ye wish for, lest it be granted."
I seem to remember many many many posts of other members (not Trudy) saying things like...."why can´t we just all get along?" Well, now it seems nobody has anything to say so we are all getting along....wish granted!
Come on...you know how it works - we argue for m onths and then when we´re at each other´s throat we take a step back, book a spa, calm down and...return with double zeal
Just wondering, in the Netherlands most of us have this weekend 4 days off: Good Friday, Saturday and two Easter days. Meaning also tomorrow I´m off. How´s that in other countries? Working / school tomorrow?
In Poland there is no day off on Good Friday but Monday is off like in the Netherlands. Actually Monday is fun day because we have this tradition of sprinkling people with water tomorrow (sprinkle is just a term as you may get a bucketful of water poured over you ). We call it Wet Monday. Lots of fun when you´re young and like getting wet
In Poland there is no day off on Good Friday but Monday is off like in the Netherlands. Actually Monday is fun day because we have this tradition of sprinkling people with water tomorrow (sprinkle is just a term as you may get a bucketful of water poured over you ). We call it Wet Monday. Lots of fun when you´re young and like getting wet
I´m happy I don´t live in Poland (and that I´m not that young anymore... )
Ok..))))))))))))let me be your online guide....in Cracow Lizard King in Sławkowska street..wonderful club ....close to Main Market....than Pausa in karmelicka street and small market..mały rynek clubs...wow..sounds nice clubbing and carpe diem as well,and Wawel courtyard-one of 7 main Earth chakrs...ehhhh...more info?
Edited (4/22/2009) by adana
[a bit of explanation]
And do not forget to visit Cracow´s dragon and listen to the tune from mariacki church,buy Ptasie Mleczko..Bird´s milk box of chocolate or Bitter by Wawel,and visit Sukiennice-Cloth market stalls in Main market..
Thanks for your help, Adana, I´m sure I will enjoy my visit (but for another ´love´ there´s no place in my heart, I already have two.... )
Wait till you see Cracow......it will be overdominating,eternal,new luvvvvvvvvvvvvvv))))))))))))))))and the map to Lizard King club..worth..bars in guitars shape,wonderful caves and concerts each Saturday))and bathrooms-just poshhh)))))))))))))))))
Still trying to get used to the new, kinder, gentler TC......cat, would you please forward me the updated user manual.....I seem to be having trouble finding the explosively anrgy posts!
Still trying to get used to the new, kinder, gentler TC......cat, would you please forward me the updated user manual.....I seem to be having trouble finding the explosively anrgy posts!
Well Elisabeth you had better get used to the watching paint dry atmosphere after some of the more colourful members have deleted/been deleted.
When they verify the differences between the modal and the auxiliary verbs cleary, they can start differentiate between them...and NOT a second BEFORE ..´head banging´
Reading through the early posts on the ´What made you scared today?´ thread brought it home to me that TC´s not so much fun anymore
Very true. All the fun people have left or don´t post (hardly) anymore! I miss them all: Elisabeth, teaschip, GG, DD, lessluv, TheAenigma, femme, thehandsome, Deli_Kizin, CW and probably more. Only boring translation requests are what´s left.
Very true. All the fun people have left or don´t post (hardly) anymore! I miss them all: Elisabeth, teaschip, GG, DD, lessluv, TheAenigma, femme, thehandsome, Deli_Kizin, CW and probably more. Only boring translation requests are what´s left.
Very true. All the fun people have left or don´t post (hardly) anymore! I miss them all: Elisabeth, teaschip, GG, DD, lessluv, TheAenigma, femme, thehandsome, Deli_Kizin, CW and probably more. Only boring translation requests are what´s left.
Very true. All the fun people have left or don´t post (hardly) anymore! I miss them all: Elisabeth, teaschip, GG, DD, lessluv, TheAenigma, femme, thehandsome, Deli_Kizin, CW and probably more. Only boring translation requests are what´s left.
Awww I can´t access the Internet during the day as My Little Terrorist is attracted to the laptop like a moth to light. He keeps pulling the cord, banging on the keyboard and closing the lid. Have you ever tried being amusing when you have to fight the one who´s going to choose your nursing home in a couple of years?
Awww I can´t access the Internet during the day as My Little Terrorist is attracted to the laptop like a moth to light. He keeps pulling the cord, banging on the keyboard and closing the lid. Have you ever tried being amusing when you have to fight the one who´s going to choose your nursing home in a couple of years?
Last weekend it was 37 degrees....now it is 08 to 13........brrrrr....and I had the central heating turned off last week....thinking it wasn´t going to get cold for a while.....brrrrr......I sit here with heavy socks, flannel PJs....my cats are huddled around a portable heater.
I´m close to the water where the type of cold is clammy, it sticks to you, crawls into any opening and winds around your arms and legs...it crawls down the back....brrrr.....
Last weekend it was 37 degrees....now it is 08 to 13........brrrrr....and I had the central heating turned off last week....thinking it wasn´t going to get cold for a while.....brrrrr......I sit here with heavy socks, flannel PJs....my cats are huddled around a portable heater.
I´m close to the water where the type of cold is clammy, it sticks to you, crawls into any opening and winds around your arms and legs...it crawls down the back....brrrr.....
I thought it was the thought of sore feet? - and if you lost any weight you´d disappear!!!
Both canim, both! Plus the thought of sitting in a too tight dress, and having a monkey made of your hair... still the thought of sore feet is the worst one..
Both canim, both! Plus the thought of sitting in a too tight dress, and having a monkey made of your hair... still the thought of sore feet is the worst one..
Sorry, canim, I didn´t notice you with the new burka. You used to have the kind where I could see your eyes.....but your new one veils your face....it is impossible to tell if you are lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR!
Sorry, canim, I didn´t notice you with the new burka. You used to have the kind where I could see your eyes.....but your new one veils your face....it is impossible to tell if you are lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR!
It´s her new work attire...and I thought her new burka was white?
Sorry, canim, I didn´t notice you with the new burka. You used to have the kind where I could see your eyes.....but your new one veils your face....it is impossible to tell if you are lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR!
Sorry, canim, I didn´t notice you with the new burka. You used to have the kind where I could see your eyes.....but your new one veils your face....it is impossible to tell if you are lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR!
Buuuuuut I don´t wear one ..... I´m a liberal lady don´t forget and now with my new slimline figure only burkinis will do
GG, I would like to give back the see-thru burka I borrowed from you. And by the way, when you said you never wear anything under your burka.....did you mean this one? People were looking at me like I was crazy!
GG, I would like to give back the see-thru burka I borrowed from you. And by the way, when you said you never wear anything under your burka.....did you mean this one? People were looking at me like I was crazy!
Yes, the see-thru burka is the best to wear sans under garmets. All the air that flows around in there.......it´s just so comfy!
I have this mind set that I can do anything a man can do, well almost. Until yesterday...I bought new shutters for my house and that meant having to take the old ones off.. My poor hands are no more delicate female hands.. This is the one time I could really use a man´s hands....ooh this didn´t sound right.
I have this mind set that I can do anything a man can do, well almost. Until yesterday...I bought new shutters for my house and that meant having to take the old ones off.. My poor hands are no more delicate female hands.. This is the one time I could really use a man´s hands....ooh this didn´t sound right.
lol ooo eeer missus.......I´m sure you won´t be short of offers now!!
Sorry, canim, I didn´t notice you with the new burka. You used to have the kind where I could see your eyes.....but your new one veils your face....it is impossible to tell if you are lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR!
OMG... now that is an offence, I make sure that my burkas are top of the line, new fashion, and you say that you confuse me with the tasteless styles of lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR???
OMG... now that is an offence, I make sure that my burkas are top of the line, new fashion, and you say that you confuse me with the tasteless styles of lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR???
I´ll have moved on from the burka....... revurka is all the style here
OMG... now that is an offence, I make sure that my burkas are top of the line, new fashion, and you say that you confuse me with the tasteless styles of lessluv, gg, trudy, LL or LIR???
Oh canim hasn´t anyone ever told you that jealousy is ugly?
Wondering if ´4 beds ensuite´ means 2 separate rooms, connected to each other with a door, or does it mean that the bathroom is ensuite and not shared. The word ensuite implies the first, but when looking further and seeing ´single bed ensuite´ exists as well, something is telling me we might have made the wrong reservation..
Wondering if ´4 beds ensuite´ means 2 separate rooms, connected to each other with a door, or does it mean that the bathroom is ensuite and not shared. The word ensuite implies the first, but when looking further and seeing ´single bed ensuite´ exists as well, something is telling me we might have made the wrong reservation..
Usually this means two adjoining rooms and usually they also have seperate bathrooms.
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not close or compact in structure or arrangement; having spaces between the parts; open: a loose weave.
15.
having few restraining factors between associated constituents and allowing ample freedom for independent action: a loose federation of city-states.
16.
not cohering: loose sand.
17.
not strict, exact, or precise: a loose interpretation of the law.
18.
Sports.
a.
having the players on a team positioned at fairly wide intervals, as in a football formation.
b.
(of a ball, hockey puck, etc.) not in the possession of either team; out of player control.
–adverb
19.
in a loose manner; loosely (usually used in combination): loose-flowing.
–verb (used with object)
20.
to let loose; free from bonds or restraint.
21.
to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty.
22.
Chiefly Nautical. to set free from fastening or attachment: to loose a boat from its moorings.
23.
to unfasten, undo, or untie, as a bond, fetter, or knot.
24.
to shoot; discharge; let fly: to loose missiles at the invaders.
25.
to make less tight; slacken or relax.
26.
to render less firmly fixed; lessen an attachment; loosen.
–verb (used without object)
27.
to let go a hold.
28.
to hoist anchor; get under way.
29.
to shoot or let fly an arrow, bullet, etc. (often fol. by off): to loose off at a flock of ducks.
LOSE -verb, lost, los⋅ing.
–verb (used with object)
1.
to come to be without (something in one´s possession or care), through accident, theft, etc., so that there is little or no prospect of recovery: I´m sure I´ve merely misplaced my hat, not lost it.
2.
to fail inadvertently to retain (something) in such a way that it cannot be immediately recovered: I just lost a dime under this sofa.
3.
to suffer the deprivation of: to lose one´s job; to lose one´s life.
4.
to be bereaved of by death: to lose a sister.
5.
to fail to keep, preserve, or maintain: to lose one´s balance; to lose one´s figure.
6.
(of a clock or watch) to run slower by: The watch loses three minutes a day.
7.
to give up; forfeit the possession of: to lose a fortune at the gaming table.
8.
to get rid of: to lose one´s fear of the dark; to lose weight.
9.
to bring to destruction or ruin (usually used passively): Ship and crew were lost.
10.
to condemn to hell; damn.
11.
to have slip from sight, hearing, attention, etc.: to lose him in the crowd.
12.
to stray from or become ignorant of (one´s way, directions, etc.): to lose one´s bearings.
13.
to leave far behind in a pursuit, race, etc.; outstrip: She managed to lose the other runners on the final lap of the race.
14.
to use to no purpose; waste: to lose time in waiting.
15.
to fail to have, get, catch, etc.; miss: to lose a bargain.
16.
to fail to win (a prize, stake, etc.): to lose a bet.
17.
to be defeated in (a game, lawsuit, battle, etc.): He has lost very few cases in his career as a lawyer.
18.
to cause the loss of: The delay lost the battle for them.
19.
to let (oneself) go astray, miss the way, etc.: We lost ourselves in the woods.
20.
to allow (oneself) to become absorbed or engrossed in something and oblivious to all else: I had lost myself in thought.
21.
(of a physician) to fail to preserve the life of (a patient).
22.
(of a woman) to fail to be delivered of (a live baby) because of miscarriage, complications in childbirth, etc.
–verb (used without object)
23.
to suffer loss: to lose on a contract.
24.
to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game: We played well, but we lost.
25.
to depreciate in effectiveness or in some other essential quality: a classic that loses in translation.
26.
(of a clock, watch, etc.) to run slow.
—Verb phrase
27.
lose out, to suffer defeat or loss; fail to obtain something desired: He got through the preliminaries, but lost out in the finals.
On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim I had to stop for the night There she stood in the doorway; I heard the mission bell And I was thinking to myself, ?this could be heaven or this could be hell? Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way There were voices down the corridor, I thought I heard them say...
Welcome to the hotel california Such a lovely place Such a lovely face Plenty of room at the hotel california Any time of year, you can find it here
Her mind is tiffany-twisted, she got the mercedes bends She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat. Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
So I called up the captain, ?please bring me my wine? He said, ?we haven?t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine? And still those voices are calling from far away, Wake you up in the middle of the night Just to hear them say...
Welcome to the hotel california Such a lovely place Such a lovely face They livin? it up at the hotel california What a nice surprise, bring your alibis
Mirrors on the ceiling, The pink champagne on ice And she said ?we are all just prisoners here, of our own device? And in the master?s chambers, They gathered for the feast The stab it with their steely knives, But they just can?t kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door I had to find the passage back To the place I was before ?relax,? said the night man, We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave
free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.
2.
free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered: loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.
3.
uncombined, as a chemical element.
4.
not bound together: to wear one´s hair loose.
5.
not put up in a package or other container: loose mushrooms.
6.
available for disposal; unused; unappropriated: loose funds.
7.
lacking in reticence or power of restraint: a loose tongue.
8.
lax, as the bowels.
9.
lacking moral restraint or integrity; notorious for his loose character.
10.
sexually promiscuous or immoral; unchaste.
11.
not firm, taut, or rigid: a loose tooth; a loose rein.
12.
relaxed or limber in nature: He runs with a loose, open stride.
13.
not fitting closely or tightly: a loose sweater.
14.
not close or compact in structure or arrangement; having spaces between the parts; open: a loose weave.
15.
having few restraining factors between associated constituents and allowing ample freedom for independent action: a loose federation of city-states.
16.
not cohering: loose sand.
17.
not strict, exact, or precise: a loose interpretation of the law.
18.
Sports.
a.
having the players on a team positioned at fairly wide intervals, as in a football formation.
b.
(of a ball, hockey puck, etc.) not in the possession of either team; out of player control.
–adverb
19.
in a loose manner; loosely (usually used in combination): loose-flowing.
–verb (used with object)
20.
to let loose; free from bonds or restraint.
21.
to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty.
22.
Chiefly Nautical. to set free from fastening or attachment: to loose a boat from its moorings.
23.
to unfasten, undo, or untie, as a bond, fetter, or knot.
24.
to shoot; discharge; let fly: to loose missiles at the invaders.
25.
to make less tight; slacken or relax.
26.
to render less firmly fixed; lessen an attachment; loosen.
–verb (used without object)
27.
to let go a hold.
28.
to hoist anchor; get under way.
29.
to shoot or let fly an arrow, bullet, etc. (often fol. by off): to loose off at a flock of ducks.
LOSE -verb, lost, los⋅ing.
–verb (used with object)
1.
to come to be without (something in one´s possession or care), through accident, theft, etc., so that there is little or no prospect of recovery: I´m sure I´ve merely misplaced my hat, not lost it.
2.
to fail inadvertently to retain (something) in such a way that it cannot be immediately recovered: I just lost a dime under this sofa.
3.
to suffer the deprivation of: to lose one´s job; to lose one´s life.
4.
to be bereaved of by death: to lose a sister.
5.
to fail to keep, preserve, or maintain: to lose one´s balance; to lose one´s figure.
6.
(of a clock or watch) to run slower by: The watch loses three minutes a day.
7.
to give up; forfeit the possession of: to lose a fortune at the gaming table.
8.
to get rid of: to lose one´s fear of the dark; to lose weight.
9.
to bring to destruction or ruin (usually used passively): Ship and crew were lost.
10.
to condemn to hell; damn.
11.
to have slip from sight, hearing, attention, etc.: to lose him in the crowd.
12.
to stray from or become ignorant of (one´s way, directions, etc.): to lose one´s bearings.
13.
to leave far behind in a pursuit, race, etc.; outstrip: She managed to lose the other runners on the final lap of the race.
14.
to use to no purpose; waste: to lose time in waiting.
15.
to fail to have, get, catch, etc.; miss: to lose a bargain.
16.
to fail to win (a prize, stake, etc.): to lose a bet.
17.
to be defeated in (a game, lawsuit, battle, etc.): He has lost very few cases in his career as a lawyer.
18.
to cause the loss of: The delay lost the battle for them.
19.
to let (oneself) go astray, miss the way, etc.: We lost ourselves in the woods.
20.
to allow (oneself) to become absorbed or engrossed in something and oblivious to all else: I had lost myself in thought.
21.
(of a physician) to fail to preserve the life of (a patient).
22.
(of a woman) to fail to be delivered of (a live baby) because of miscarriage, complications in childbirth, etc.
–verb (used without object)
23.
to suffer loss: to lose on a contract.
24.
to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game: We played well, but we lost.
25.
to depreciate in effectiveness or in some other essential quality: a classic that loses in translation.
26.
(of a clock, watch, etc.) to run slow.
—Verb phrase
27.
lose out, to suffer defeat or loss; fail to obtain something desired: He got through the preliminaries, but lost out in the finals.
Hahaha, and this was in relation to..?? Or did you just want to give us the various meanigs of ´loose´?
Amazed - that someone who has been a member of this site for more than 3 years under various nicknames and who has asked for hundreds and hundreds of translations is STILL unable to work out the simplest Turkish sentence.
Amazed - that someone who has been a member of this site for more than 3 years under various nicknames and who has asked for hundreds and hundreds of translations is STILL unable to work out the simplest Turkish sentence.
I can´t believe this happens, LIR! Say it isn´t so........do you think he/she has multiple dudus too??? SHOCKING! SO SHOCKING!!
I don´t know if I "prefer" this version ....... but I love the Gipsy Kings. Saw them a few years ago and we had sooooooo much fun at the concert. We danced all night!
Amazed - that someone who has been a member of this site for more than 3 years under various nicknames and who has asked for hundreds and hundreds of translations is STILL unable to work out the simplest Turkish sentence.
Come on LIR...we don´t have members like that here..
Amazed - that someone who has been a member of this site for more than 3 years under various nicknames and who has asked for hundreds and hundreds of translations is STILL unable to work out the simplest Turkish sentence.
I hope she´s not talking about me.. I thought I disguised all my other accounts well..
catgirl.......catperson.....catastrophe.....catmando...... catdoggydog........catastrophic......catsup.....NOT very good disguises!!!
Catastrophe is NOT me, ok? And as for the rest of them.. I do not think LIR would have guessed all of them if you hadn´t just made it public, you evil!!!
Catastrophe is NOT me, ok? And as for the rest of them.. I do not think LIR would have guessed all of them if you hadn´t just made it public, you evil!!!
Well - now I´m guessing you must be cat, cat-b, catbird, catclaws09, cat-erpillar, catgirl (and catgirl1969) as well! And this is just far too many nicknames for one person - even if it is your site!
Well - now I´m guessing you must be cat, cat-b, catbird, catclaws09, cat-erpillar, catgirl (and catgirl1969) as well! And this is just far too many nicknames for one person - even if it is your site!
Thank you for confirming that "catastrophe" has NEVER been my nickname!!
I responded to an announcement of a girl in Ankara who is looking for a flatmate, I am excited and hoping that we can work something out! The location is perfect for me, and the price is much better than what I would pay in a dormitory!
I responded to an announcement of a girl in Ankara who is looking for a flatmate, I am excited and hoping that we can work something out! The location is perfect for me, and the price is much better than what I would pay in a dormitory!
What exactly is a member with the nickname ´Iluvturkishmen´ - whose reason for using Turkish Class is ´I Love Turkish Men!´ - hoping to get out of this site??
??
Edited (7/28/2009) by lady in red
[misspelling of the word ´luv´ :)]
Edited (7/28/2009) by lady in red
What exactly is a member with the nickname ´Iloveturkishmen´ (whose reason for using Turkish Class is ´I Love Turkish Men!´  hoping to get out of this site??
Dang it...that´s what my new nickname was going to be.. My guess would be Turkish men.
What exactly is a member with the nickname ´Iluvturkishmen´ - whose reason for using Turkish Class is ´I Love Turkish Men!´ - hoping to get out of this site??
??
I´m thinking she is after some "turkish lovin"......
I am thinking I am not even going to LOOK at Trudy´s response to my last post because I know that evil cloggie has posted a picture of some revolting, nasty, digusting, hideous eight-legged creature of satan!!
I am thinking I am not even going to LOOK at Trudy´s response to my last post because I know that evil cloggie has posted a picture of some revolting, nasty, digusting, hideous eight-legged creature of satan!!
whomever this Tami guy is, he must have been really influential on you, or maybe I should say traumatic.
what makes you think so? you should really find out who he is, you will be surprised how much you have in common with him, he might even be living on your street!
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
Silly bed Americans!
We do it to annoy you evil brits and to give you something to talk about! I could care less that you couldn´t care less and furthermore....who gives a damn?
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
We do it to annoy you evil brits and to give you something to talk about! I could care less that you couldn´t care less and furthermore....who gives a damn?
Not to mention were not as heartless as you Brits..
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
God must have created British English to be spoken by a woman. What they call as The Standard English is a language so eloquent and so nice to hear, well, as long as it is spoken by a lady. It seems that about the time when English was winning over Dutch, the early settlers decided they would sound ridiculously soft when they blew somebody´s head off and, discarded all the exquisite aspects of the language.
In British English too, there are certain phrases that sound wrong. One of them is "have got" or "have"
indicating possession. The Brits say "have you money" or "have you got money". God only knows how come "got" got there or why a "special" auxiliary is needed when a simple verb would suffice.
Quoting lady in red
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
God must have created British English to be spoken by a woman. What they call as The Standard English is a language so eloquent and so nice to hear, well, as long as it is spoken by a lady. It seems that about the time when English was winning over Dutch, the early settlers decided they would sound ridiculously soft when they blew somebody´s head off and, discarded all the exquisite aspects of the language.
In British English too, there are certain phrases that sound wrong. One of them is "have got" or "have"
indicating possession. The Brits say "have you money" or "have you got money". God only knows how come "got" got there or why a "special" auxiliary is needed when a simple verb would suffice.
"have you money" is simple present tense, the verb is "have".
"have you got money" is present perfect tense, the verb is "get".
Have you got money? = Have you acquired/obtained money?
You´re correct in the context of the 2nd sentence.
Vineyards was referring to the redundant use of "got" in first.
what I mean is they are just gramatically correct. I wasn`t referring to the use of the word "got". Even when its use is concerned it sounds quite right to me.
"I have got money" means I have acquired money and I still have it.
Something that´s always puzzled me - - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something? In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.
If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care. But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left! That makes much more sense don´t you think?
Silly bed Americans!
It shows that we could care less, if we cared to, but we do not actually care anymore (it´s not worth the effort), even though there are still some dregs left in the bottom of the bag.
Instead we are NOT going to care at all...............it´s implied....
Of course, they are grammatically correct. There is no doubt about it. Though perfectly valid for all intents and purposes, there are certain words, phrases or sometimes entire sentences borrowed from other languages. The structure in question for example contains words that entered the language from old Germanic dialects. When this is the case, more than often specific rules such as those applying to conjugation, pluralization etc are also imported. We have many examples to that in Turkish too. For example, the words : nizam, tanzim, intizam, muntazam are all derived from the same root and are conjugated according to the rules of the Arabic language. Through extensive usage, we (at least until lately) used these variations as if it were the most natural thing to conjugate words like that.
Political, religious or other influences temporarily open a window into another language. The words or usages that came through that window may or may not last. If you checked out a Turkish dictionary belonging to some 50 years ago, you would be amazed at the number of Arabic and Persian words. Many of them however have now disappeared. The birth and the divergence of other dialects of English might be signalling a new phase of development driven mostly by the internal dynamics of the English language.
Not long ago, before Roger Ascham and other (patriotic!) educators initiated the education reform in England, French and Latin were primarily used in education. It is through their efforts that English has gained the support of its own people. Similar things can be said of the Finnish,Greek, Bulgarian and Hungarian languages. In all these countries, the patriotic sentiment was instrumental in the revival of the domestic tongues.
Quoting mhsn supertitiz
what I mean is they are just gramatically correct. I wasn`t referring to the use of the word "got". Even when its use is concerned it sounds quite right to me.
"I have got money" means I have acquired money and I still have it.
God must have created British English to be spoken by a woman. What they call as The Standard English is a language so eloquent and so nice to hear, well, as long as it is spoken by a lady. It seems that about the time when English was winning over Dutch, the early settlers decided they would sound ridiculously soft when they blew somebody´s head off and, discarded all the exquisite aspects of the language.
In British English too, there are certain phrases that sound wrong. One of them is "have got" or "have"
indicating possession. The Brits say "have you money" or "have you got money". God only knows how come "got" got there or why a "special" auxiliary is needed when a simple verb would suffice.
´Have you money?´ sounds completely weird to me! - You could say ´Do you have money?´ or as you said ´Have you got money?´ both - to me - would translate as ´are you wealthy?´ rather than ´have you any cash on you?´
´Got´ is a strange word (and I´m sure some Turks are sniggering now!) and I have no idea how it ´got´ into the English vocabulary. Why do we say ´I´ve got to go now´ meaning ´I must go now´? (another strange thing we tend to say is ´I´m going to go now´ - what´s wrong with ´I´m going now´? - why stick the infinitive in there?)
I think we use ´get/got´ so much because it´s a lazy way of avoioding longer words
´Have you money?´ sounds completely weird to me! - You could say ´Do you have money?´ or as you said ´Have you got money?´ both - to me - would translate as ´are you wealthy?´ rather than ´have you any cash on you?´
´Got´ is a strange word (and I´m sure some Turks are sniggering now!) and I have no idea how it ´got´ into the English vocabulary. Why do we say ´I´ve got to go now´ meaning ´I must go now´? (another strange thing we tend to say is ´I´m going to go now´ - what´s wrong with ´I´m going now´? - why stick the infinitive in there?)
I think we use ´get/got´ so much because it´s a lazy way of avoioding longer words
Check your grammer book, hopefully you will understand.
God must have created British English to be spoken by a woman. What they call as The Standard English is a language so eloquent and so nice to hear, well, as long as it is spoken by a lady.
Interesting. I always thought it to sound better when spoken by a male .. especially by the likes of Jeremy Irons or Alan Rickman or any reincarnation of the James Bond fellow really. Maybe it´s just a sexy accent regardless.
Although the older I get, the more it sounds to me like somebody speaking with a mouthful of mashed potatoes.
Interesting. I always thought it to sound better when spoken by a male .. especially by the likes of Jeremy Irons or Alan Rickman or any reincarnation of the James Bond fellow really. Maybe it´s just a sexy accent regardless.
I have to agree with you Melek....I love talking to my evil British friends. I always marvel at the fact that no matter how angry they get, they always manage to sound so polite. I took a British friend to get her drivers license here in the states. They were so rude to her (it was actually quite embarrasing) and she just gave it right back to them in such a nice way that the morons didn´t even realize that they were being insulted! She promised to teach me this technique and to also detect when I was being insulted by another evil Brit...hehehe.
She promised to teach me this technique and to also detect when I was being insulted by another evil Brit...hehehe.
I hope you do not neglect to share this precious knowledge with the rest of us who might ever be risk of being insulted by evil Brits!
What I absoltely LOVE about the British way of communicating is the humor of understatement. I recall a story I heard from my former bf, who happened to be British, who totalled his father´s car at age 16 and when he came home announced it to his parents as "There seems to be A BIT OF a problem with the car." Coupled with his accent, that is just something that makes me laugh every time I think about it.
My favorite book EVER is full of such wonderful British humor (I´m referring to "Three Men in a Boat" of course).
I believe _AE_ was supposed to be teaching a class about "how to insult with a smile". Of course this was in her last incarnation (the aenigma.....or something like that) Not sure if she is still interested.But, of course, I would be happy to share whatever tidbits I have learned.
I believe _AE_ was supposed to be teaching a class about "how to insult with a smile". Of course this was in her last incarnation (the aenigma.....or something like that) Not sure if she is still interested.But, of course, I would be happy to share whatever tidbits I have learned.
You didn´t notice?
I have been giving examples ever since I came back!
I have been giving examples ever since I came back!
Melek....note to self....British humor is so powerful that we don´t even notice when someone is teaching us....OFFFFFF we have so much to learn! I will try to be more aware of your stealth humor in the future!
British humor is so powerful that we don´t even notice when someone is teaching us....OFFFFFF we have so much to learn! I will try to be more aware of your stealth humor in the future!
Melek....note to self....British humor is so powerful that we don´t even notice when someone is teaching us....OFFFFFF we have so much to learn! I will try to be more aware of your stealth humor in the future!
Humour (note we Brits use a ´u´ ) I have no examples of humour - NONE WHATSOEVER. I thought you were asking about insulting with a smile?
It would need to be a bloody big peace pipe but a more environmentally friendly version would be an olive branch or several olive branches...............
you`ll still be here on tc after your prostate operation which I suppose is due in a few years? good for you, you will enjoy knitting with trudy.
dude, this is so pathetically low... you are proving yourself as a primitive person. if you have a problem with a person based on legitimate reasons, then if you are slightly intelligent, you can question those things, but this kind of comment is really disgustingly low. I also think that this qualifies as a personal attack, and if you continue with it despite this warning, they will be deleted, and if you still continue, your account will be deleted. I am sick of this in this forum. take care of your private problems via PMs.
dude, this is so pathetically low... you are proving yourself as a primitive person. if you have a problem with a person based on legitimate reasons, then if you are slightly intelligent, you can question those things, but this kind of comment is really disgustingly low. I also think that this qualifies as a personal attack, and if you continue with it despite this warning, they will be deleted, and if you still continue, your account will be deleted. I am sick of this in this forum. take care of your private problems via PMs.
look who is talking about being low. I don`t call people "asshole" on the forum. Can we say the same for you?
People are arguing on TC I´m beginning to have panic attacks and feel insecure. I want my peaceful forum back again Who´s gonna pay for my therapy now?
People are arguing on TC I´m beginning to have panic attacks and feel insecure. I want my peaceful forum back again Who´s gonna pay for my therapy now?
Ae is about leave DD..Everything will be fine again soon
And geez..what a drama!! we have been going through the same thing again and again!!
Of course YOU don´t....YOU are never wrong.....YOU never take responsiblity for what YOU do. And geez....if YOU didn´t have this insatible need to have the last word maybe YOU wouldn´t have to go through the same thing again and again!!!
Of course YOU don´t....YOU are never wrong.....YOU never take responsiblity for what YOU do. And geez....if YOU didn´t have this insatible need to have the last word maybe YOU wouldn´t have to go through the same thing again and again!!!
Sorry kitty....I do still want some poetry!
Sorry but, I think it was more than ´the need to have the last word thing´..
As usual, I would not like her leaving really..There was something strange this times as I felt as if I was the center of her attention since her return..God knows why..
Sorry but, I think it was more than ´the need to have the last word thing´..
As usual, I would not like her leaving really..There was something strange this times as I felt as if I was the center of her attention since her return..God knows why..
It all went very quiet all of a sudden...... nobody posting....nobody ´important´ seems to be pm´ing (just spammers I think) ......calm before the storm??
Oops! spoke too soon and too slow posting
Edited (9/2/2009) by lady in red
[we´re off again!]
I would like to be able to do my ´job´ as an Admin without constant little sniping digs about ´friendships´, ´collaborations´ ´manipulation´ etc. It seems I´m not considered intelligent or capable enough of having opinions of my own.
The people who voted for me as Admin told me they did so because they thought I was fair. If people now think I´m not suitable for the job - believe me - I´m quite happy to chuck it in - I really don´t need the aggravation.
I would like to be able to do my ´job´ as an Admin without constant little sniping digs about ´friendships´, ´collaborations´ ´manipulation´ etc. It seems I´m not considered intelligent or capable enough of having opinions of my own.
The people who voted for me as Admin told me they did so because they thought I was fair. If people now think I´m not suitable for the job - believe me - I´m quite happy to chuck it in - I really don´t need the aggravation.
exactly, enough of playing kindergarden games, personal posts will be deleted immediately from now on.
exactly, enough of playing kindergarden games, personal posts will be deleted immediately from now on.
Wonderful news, but was this not already in the rules anyway? If this rule is applied consistently then that is good news. If it continues as BEFORE then expect to be deleting a lot of posts because all people see is that some people are allowed to name-call, make innunendo, etc. (yourself included) while others are not - even if they are retaliating!
I realise that you will all just make the usual denials of unfair moderating blah blah... so I guess everything will just continue as before!
EXTRACT FROM FORUM RULES
Admins and moderators have the right to delete posts if these posts contain abusive, vulgar, insulting language, are particularly offensive or if posts contain personal attacks (or negative statements about another person´s character if it results in a conflict between members).
Edited (9/3/2009) by _AE_ Edited (9/3/2009) by _AE_ Edited (9/3/2009) by _AE_
I am probably the most "thrusted" person around here.....except for Teas, with whom I have the deepest thrust, since she will be handling my accounts from now on.
I am probably the most "thrusted" person around here.....except for Teas, with whom I have the deepest thrust, since she will be handling my accounts from now on.
I am going to set up a Paypal account for those seeking Lis´s services. Certified checks are also welcomed. Make payable to the Thrusted Foundation.
Well..... What have you all been up to while I´ve been breaking in my Cuban Dudu.....Thankfully my spanish is OK so didn´t need to post translation requests on Spanish Language Class
Well..... What have you all been up to while I´ve been breaking in my Cuban Dudu.....Thankfully my spanish is OK so didn´t need to post translation requests on Spanish Language Class
Ahhh... so that´s what you´ve been doing while we were missing you!!!
My thoughts are with the families of the victims of 9/11.
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury,pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love. For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen
My thoughts are with the girls in Afghanistan who can go to school again And to myself, how I´m not studying hard enough and totally messing up the great chances that I´ve been given, just because I live in a Western country... and now I feel some shame...
You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you. Brian Tracy
Why do people post such provocative threads, with invitations in the title designed to cause more of the childish squabbles we have now grown accustomed to and which contribute nothing in the way of "discussion", and then have the gall to complain about other people´s posts being boring... *yawn*
Starting to wonder why people are lowering their standards sooo much for love-partners... It seem that some boys and girls mess up so much, that other losers start to look great! It looks like we are happy with somebody who doesn´t cheat/ doesn´t ask our for money/doesn´t ask for a visa. And some people even will be happy with just one of that list.
Today I thought for one second "I´m to picky, I keep complaining to my partner, and he never asked me for money or something like that" ...and then luckily I got my brain back and realized that I have to have more demands than just "don´t ask me for money" YES, you DO have to do the dishes sometimes sweetheart, even though you DON´T ask me for money
Starting to wonder why people are lowering their standards sooo much for love-partners... It seem that some boys and girls mess up so much, that other losers start to look great! It looks like we are happy with somebody who doesn´t cheat/ doesn´t ask our for money/doesn´t ask for a visa. And some people even will be happy with just one of that list.
Today I thought for one second "I´m to picky, I keep complaining to my partner, and he never asked me for money or something like that" ...and then luckily I got my brain back and realized that I have to have more demands than just "don´t ask me for money" YES, you DO have to do the dishes sometimes sweetheart, even though you DON´T ask me for money
So what are you saying LIR? Are you back writing love letters again?
Mr. LIR just can´t seem to stop marrying too many women...but alas. LIR is willing to keep forgiving him, so who are we to be so critical? He NEVER asks for money, or laptops or cellphones, so I think he really loves her.
Mr. LIR just can´t seem to stop marrying too many women...but alas. LIR is willing to keep forgiving him, so who are we to be so critical? He NEVER asks for money, or laptops or cellphones, so I think he really loves her.
I didn´t realize Mr. LIR was Mormon? Hmm, who knew...Maybe that why LIR is so forgiving. Then I wonder why she is sending letters to inmates...is it because she is lonely or socially isolated?
Fascinated with the term "bloody hell". Would it be strange coming from a bed Amerikan rather than an evil Brit...I want to adopt this to my vocabulary.
Boiling beetroot sounds much more productive - but dont forget to come back and write an essay on your experiences (and let us know where you will be going next!)
Boiling beetroot sounds much more productive - but dont forget to come back and write an essay on your experiences (and let us know where you will be going next!)
Yehhhh beetroot has won..... oh and I will be going to my kitchen next
If you cant find what you need on your football team... you can get rid of from your sadness with watching womens volleyball game Poland vs. Germany is a good choice
If you cant find what you need on your football team... you can get rid of from your sadness with watching womens volleyball game Poland vs. Germany is a good choice
Aferin Sui..and hope you see that we are winning for now
Yehhhh beetroot has won..... oh and I will be going to my kitchen next
I´m curious how you prepare your beetroot. I do it with a little salt, vinegar. I use three kinds of vinegar, rice, apple cider and basalmic. I´ve taken to adding some garlic as of late. What do you do with it then, how do you eat it...serve it?
I´m curious how you prepare your beetroot. I do it with a little salt, vinegar. I use three kinds of vinegar, rice, apple cider and basalmic. I´ve taken to adding some garlic as of late. What do you do with it then, how do you eat it...serve it?
What the heck is beetroot? Remember I don´t get around...
I´m curious how you prepare your beetroot. I do it with a little salt, vinegar. I use three kinds of vinegar, rice, apple cider and basalmic. I´ve taken to adding some garlic as of late. What do you do with it then, how do you eat it...serve it?
I cook it! My mom eats the cooked beetroot with raw unions, but that´s just yucky!
He is a nationalist and and admin in another Turkish forum site; he keeps holding/delaying my posts because he does not like my ideas..
..why has he decided to follow me out of blue?
I am getting paranoid?!!!
If you are so paranoid about it why mention it in a public forum and draw attention to the fact you have a twitter account and confirming to the person who has decided to follow you that they in fact are following the person they intended to.
I´m curious how you prepare your beetroot. I do it with a little salt, vinegar. I use three kinds of vinegar, rice, apple cider and basalmic. I´ve taken to adding some garlic as of late. What do you do with it then, how do you eat it...serve it?
In Poland we have beetroots in a soup (usually the Ukrainian Borsh with beans, carrots and paotatoes) or as a salad to go with dinner. Then it´s grated and pickled with chopped onions
In Poland we have beetroots in a soup (usually the Ukrainian Borsh with beans, carrots and paotatoes) or as a salad to go with dinner. Then it´s grated and pickled with chopped onions
Reading this reply to a long translation request just now:
Quoting fuki
I wouldn´t be bothered to send him a long translated version of the letter. He can find somebody to get it translated. If he won´t, I would assume that he isn´t interested in learning your explanations.
I thought, this is a really good point! All these girls who ask for translations - don´t they ever wonder why their boyfriends can´t get off their a**** and find someone to translate for them and get their messages translated to/from English if they care so much??? For example they could join TC themselves! - but then again I suppose they are probably too busy multi-tasking texting!
I never understood people who have a relationship with somebody they cannot understand. If my partner whispers sweet little nothings in my ear, I prefer to understand them without a translator whispering them in my other ear.
I did not know that I am being followed by ´a nice looking girl´ with the info "Find THE hottest sexy partner Visit ...."
Woohoo
Are we going to be informed of every person that starts to follow you ? If there is more to come I will start to prepare myself now, this much excitement might be be too much to handle
Are we going to be informed of every person that starts to follow you ? If there is more to come I will start to prepare myself now, as it is just so thrilling and it may be too much to handle
I never understood people who have a relationship with somebody they cannot understand. If my partner whispers sweet little nothings in my ear, I prefer to understand them without a translator whispering them in my other ear.
still in Turkey,fed up a bit with official meetings,simultaneous translation,high heel shoes and formal clothes..anyway TC is going on)))
had wonderful afternoon today,sitting in a cafe´s garden with academics,professors of literature and musicians playing saz,asked for Kazim Koyuncu song and got it)wonderful gift for a kus.Met Ahmet Turan Kul a contemporary poet with whom had nice chat about poetry,hiding tears listening to his poems in Turkish,
like
anne baba ve çocuk
anne ekmek
baba su
çocuk su ýþýtlýsi
ekmek kokusu
anne dere
baba tepe
çocuk
çaðlarýn doðrultusu
anne yer
baba gök
çocuk
yaþma tutkusu
wonderful person he is...
have fun TC,I am enjoying myself with wonderful ppl)))
Edited (10/9/2009) by birdy
[long nails makes birdy losing letters)))]
Anyone else bored with the "QWX" thread now, or is it just me?
I guess we can say one good thing is that it has stuck to topic...
Well, whether it is a head scarf, a Turkish husband, QWX, religion or politics....it is pretty clear that they all end up the same way. It would be nice if someone would come up with an original response.
I think we should just issue forms for responses! (The Pro-Turkish Government response form, the Anti-Kurdish response form...not to be confused with the other form, the anti Western response form....this can be broken down into subcatagories for Amerikan and Brits, the anti social form, the feminist response form, the religious angle form, the fill in the link form...etc....)
I think we should just issue forms for responses! (The Pro-Turkish Government response form, the Anti-Kurdish response form...not to be confused with the other form, the anti Western response form....this can be broken down into subcatagories for Amerikan and Brits, the anti social form, the feminist response form, the religious angle form, the fill in the link form...etc....)
Can I leave creating the form, collating responses and analysing the data to you? I am a little busy with my playing working so don´t have time
Here is the first one: Turkish Nationalist Response Form.
Turkey is AWESOME. How dare you insult the greatest culture ever to grace the planet! _______________ (insert country of choice) is full of stinking, lying bastards! Every other place on the planet is horrible! How can you even get through a day without being Turkish! QWX are stupid letters! How can you think about using such inferior letters? Our military will stamp out everyone who insults our Turkishness.
I have an opinion! I found it on_________________ (fill in link). The reason I feel this way is because I read it on ___________(fill in link). I live vicariously thru_________________(fill in link). You can´t argue with me because my opinion has been carefully thought and I have further evidence that my opinion is true because I found it on _________________(insert link) AND I have references:
observing turkish female team at work and dabrowski one came to conclusion
we do most of work,men are just decoration
like a flower attached to a fur...not neccessary and damn pushy..obciach!!!!
you can do the work. men will always be there to give you instructions and to make sure you`re doing the work right. Don`t worry we will never leave you women alone!
you can do the work. men will always be there to give you instructions and to make sure you`re doing the work right. Don`t worry we will never leave you women alone!
ahh,AE ´s sultan tami,long time not to see each other))such supportive words i got from you
we know we can do the work,we call ourselves"power girls"but have you ever been in situation that you must interprete others words and make up a sentence in a sec not with agreement with original not appropriate one????
I have an opinion! I found it on_________________ (fill in link). The reason I feel this way is because I read it on ___________(fill in link). I live vicariously thru_________________(fill in link). You can´t argue with me because my opinion has been carefully thought and I have further evidence that my opinion is true because I found it on _________________(insert link) AND I have references:
___________________________ (insert link)
___________________________ (insert link)
___________________________ (insert link)
Quoting Elisabeth
Here is the first one: Turkish Nationalist Response Form.
Turkey is AWESOME. How dare you insult the greatest culture ever to grace the planet! _______________ (insert country of choice) is full of stinking, lying bastards! Every other place on the planet is horrible! How can you even get through a day without being Turkish! QWX are stupid letters! How can you think about using such inferior letters? Our military will stamp out everyone who insults our Turkishness.
Here comes another one: Farmville Farmers Response Form.
We, the people from the agrarian walk of life find your post extremely biased. The observation is true as since the moment you posted it, our crops began to wither and our livestock became confused. Cows ceased to provide milk, pigs no longer find truffles, chicken no longer lay eggs, ducks and swans fail to lose downfeathers and elephants do not produce circus peanuts anymore. We advise you to rethink your opinion or all our effort is futile, which may result in global famine.
Thinking of a new plan... My previous plan (win lotery, buy vacation house in turkey, buy a ticket for a short trip to turkey whenever I want to go because I´m rich now) didn´t work out again. I need to re-plan
Tami, some of the words you used to describe Trudy in your deleted post are as you very well know, quite unacceptable. I think I will delete your account if you do it again. You have been warned about this before.
Now i understand how my mother was suffering about household chores... after trying to clean and defreeze the refrigirator... Housewives rullaz!!! lol
Housewives are a thing of the past - sorry to disappoint you Sui. Most people have to juggle working, keeping the house clean, cooking, child care... - you are just doing what all men and women have learned to do
Housewives are a thing of the past - sorry to disappoint you Sui. Most people have to juggle working, keeping the house clean, cooking, child care... - you are just doing what all men and women have learned to do
....all men?
(I have scientific facts to back up this sexist statement )
It must be the circles you mix in CW - most of the males I know under 30 are very self sufficient, do all the main cooking in the house and don´t make a big song and dance about it
It must be the circles you mix in CW - most of the males I know under 30 are very self sufficient, do all the main cooking in the house and don´t make a big song and dance about it
But you yourself said "most men" now!! Plus I assure you there´s still a lot who don´t.. especially in countries like Turkey!
Wondering why thehandsom was deleted "for personal reasons" why everyone else who leaves is "user´s request".
Now...this either implies that thehandsom was deleted against his will because of the personal reasons of a moderator, OR....... the others all left for impersonal reasons - maybe "business reasons"?
Ahh the mysteries/irregularities of TC
Edited (10/17/2009) by _AE_ Edited (10/17/2009) by _AE_
[Grrrrrr nails are too long to type!!!!!]
Wondering why thehandsom was deleted "for personal reasons" why everyone else who leaves is "user´s request".
Now...this either implies that thehandsom was deleted against his will because of the personal reasons of a moderator, OR....... the others all left for impersonal reasons - maybe "business reasons"?
Ahh the mysteries/irregularities of TC
haha
I didnt understand who, with whom, where and when???
I think the one who deleted his account, cried on keyboard
Wondering why thehandsom was deleted "for personal reasons" why everyone else who leaves is "user´s request".
Now...this either implies that thehandsom was deleted against his will because of the personal reasons of a moderator, OR....... the others all left for impersonal reasons - maybe "business reasons"?
Ahh the mysteries/irregularities of TC
Haha! Could it not be for HIS personal reasons??? But it seems that no one is that bothered anyway
Haha! Could it not be for HIS personal reasons??? But it seems that no one is that bothered anyway
Well, as I said, surely most people leave for PERSONAL reasons, but it is always written as "user´s request". It implies that the others left for business reasons!!
Well, as I said, surely most people leave for PERSONAL reasons, but it is always written as "user´s request". It implies that the others left for business reasons!!
Doh!! Get what you mean - now who is the Salak round here??
It must be the circles you mix in CW - most of the males I know under 30 are very self sufficient, do all the main cooking in the house and don´t make a big song and dance about it
Now it is the deadline on the age thing, my son is above the deadline age and does all the cooking at home and has always been very self sufficient (due to the fact that I was an awful mother  
I agree! Where is this magical man-well, where cooking and cleaning men spring from? Statistics show that the majority of household chores are carried out by women, even when they have full-time jobs, in every country around the world... although the younger generation has some improvement, it´s not much...so where are these men I want to trade my model in for a self-sufficient one!
(ps: I also have myself to blame... I shouldn´t take care of my ´man´ the way as I do )
Housewives are a thing of the past - sorry to disappoint you Sui. Most people have to juggle working, keeping the house clean, cooking, child care... - you are just doing what all men and women have learned to do
i am not disappointed at all... i simply just tried to mention how big and important work houswives are doing...
I was not boasting myself as i am doing something very extraordinary but again it seems i couldnt succeed to explain myself with my words
btw... i think what i made bold on up should have been "learnt" right?
btw... i think what i made bold on up should have been "learnt" right?
Actually there is no such word (officially) as learnt. Another common one is "spelt" (i.e. have I spelt that correctly). Both are not English words - learned and spelled are correct.
HOWEVER (a big however) it is considered commonplace to use these misspellings now (particularly in the US)
Actually there is no such word (officially) as learnt. Another common one is "spelt" (i.e. have I spelt that correctly). Both are not English words - learned and spelled are correct.
HOWEVER (a big however) it is considered commonplace to use these misspellings now (particularly in the US)
you know the best you are the brit... even though the dictionary of Turkishclass doesnt say so
Actually there is no such word (officially) as learnt. Another common one is "spelt" (i.e. have I spelt that correctly). Both are not English words - learned and spelled are correct.
HOWEVER (a big however) it is considered commonplace to use these misspellings now (particularly in the US)
I don´t think www.askoxford.com agrees with you
"These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity."
"These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity."
OK I know I was being a purist! Slang and popular words are added to the Oxford English Dictionary every year - ´dealt´, ´learnt´ and ´spelt´ have been added too. But....the fact is, it is still considered to be poor grammar! Grrrrrrr!
OK I know I was being a purist! Slang and popular words are added to the Oxford English Dictionary every year - ´dealt´, ´learnt´ and ´spelt´ have been added too. But....the fact is, it is still considered to be poor grammar! Grrrrrrr!
"These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity."
+1
Thats what they taught us at the uni. The books were from 70´s.
I feel so left out - new latest craze seems to be having a Jailbird Dudu I need to visit Turkish prisons and get one for myself
Sounds like a plan - you definitely won´t have a problem with that - post an ad saying "A British blonde with passion for footbal and no brains is looking for a special friend she could sponsor" That will make your postman stay on strike forever
Sounds like a plan - you definitely won´t have a problem with that - post an ad saying "A British blonde with passion for footbal and no brains is looking for a special friend she could sponsor" That will make your postman stay on strike forever
Mwaahahahahaha!
(Btw am i imagining it or were you just here as "daydreamer" without the capital "D"? )
(Btw am i imagining it or were you just here as "daydreamer" without the capital "D"? )
Canim, have you forgotten the old tc trick to log on using capital and small letters at random? For the first few minutes your nick is displayed just like you typed it
Canim, have you forgotten the old tc trick to log on using capital and small letters at random? For the first few minutes your nick is displayed just like you typed it
Ouh I never knew that "old trick"!!!
I feel so left out now...you never tell me ANYTHING!
Without Tami and TheHandsom is the forum going to be subjected to travel plans, knitting patterns, cooking tips and love poems?
(Apart from the occasional Yoda style, self important post from AlphaF of course)
Funny you should say that............ see new thread that I started:
"A place for sharing knitting and crochet tips"
A comfortable and cosy place to hang out and share tips and patterns, sipping your Earl grey, whilst you wait for your translations, a goody goody alternative to hanging out in the "Translation Lounge"
Funny you should say that............ see new thread that I started:
"A place for sharing knitting and crochet tips"
A comfortable and cosy place to hang out and share tips and patterns, sipping your Earl grey, whilst you wait for your translations, a goody goody alternative to hanging out in the "Translation Lounge"
I could not find it anywhere I particularly wanted to post this pattern for Lady in Red - I want her to knit me another suit for work
How many women in the world actually stand like that
btw, I love the new look AE, I was knitting you these for winter but I see they are far to modern for your taste
Ouh I loveeeeeee the colour!!! And its a great idea - pink leg warmers with black heeled shoes! Awwwwwww it is a BIT modern for me, but I will give it a go, if you think it will look good
Ouh I loveeeeeee the colour!!! And its a great idea - pink leg warmers with black heeled shoes! Awwwwwww it is a BIT modern for me, but I will give it a go, if you think it will look good
I recall bod wearing something similar some time ago. Can you do a pair in lovat green only slightly longer LL?
I thought I had been called everything on this site....a Nazi, bed Amerikan, NOW I AM A BEAR KILLER! I just can´t take it anymore. To top it all off....I have no serious language questions!
I thought I had been called everything on this site....a Nazi, bed Amerikan, NOW I AM A BEAR KILLER! I just can´t take it anymore. To top it all off....I have no serious language questions!
Well, I don´t know about the other things you have been called...but from your own testimony....given the proper circumstance, you would be a bear killer.
I love the fact that it can be 2.35 and that there is still a place open accross the street selling cigarettes (or beer, or bugles, or all at the same time )
I love the fact that it can be 2.35 and that there is still a place open accross the street selling cigarettes (or beer, or bugles, or all at the same time )
If you had stuck to the original nickname some 4 years ago, do you realise you would more than likely be at the top of the leader board???? Is that not incentive enough???
Finally, you may not realise it but this is a phonetic symbol /æ/ (like the vowel you have in cat/mad and it is really hard for foreigners to pronounce (usually replaced by /ʌ/ as in cut or /e/ as in let . It is about time you changed that discriminatory nickname!
Why is Tami deleted for saying "Christian Nazis" when people have regularly used the words "Muslim Terrorists". A regular member here once even said to Tami "are you taking flying lessons while you are in the US". Why is that acceptable?
I dont often agree with Tami´s posts and resent being called both ´Christian´ and ´Nazi´, but it is clear to me that the only reason he does that is in retaliation for the global use of the words "Muslim" and "terrorist" when referring to anyone from certain countries in the east. If we resent it when he returns the favour, then we should look to ourselves first.
The new rules of "Zero Tolerance" leaves us with a very vague set of rules to follow, i.e. if someone "finds something offensive" the post is deleted. This depends on the thickness of skin of cetain members surely? With regard to swearing, there is no determination as to whether swearing is banned completely (in which case most mods should be deleted too!!!). In summary, I see no change whatsoever, other than an increase in ambiguity.
I dont often agree with Tami´s posts and resent being called both ´Christian´ and ´Nazi´, but it is clear to me that the only reason he does that is in retaliation for the global use of the words "Muslim" and "terrorist" when referring to anyone from certain countries in the east. If we resent it when he returns the favour, then we should look to ourselves first
I never agree with his posts but I dont see reason for deletion?
Yeah he annoyed me but he certainly didnt offend me
I dont often agree with Tami´s posts and resent being called both ´Christian´ and ´Nazi´, but it is clear to me that the only reason he does that is in retaliation for the global use of the words "Muslim" and "terrorist" when referring to anyone from certain countries in the east. If we resent it when he returns the favour, then we should look to ourselves first
I never agree with his posts but I dont see reason for deletion?
Yeah he annoyed me but he certainly didnt offend me
Well some people were offended - which was why he was deleted the first time round and he was warned when he returned but chose to ignore the warning.
And to AE - Tami is not from one of the ´countries in the east´ that people tend to cite when talking about terrorists, neither is he - on his own admission - a muslim. There are plenty of TC members who are both muslim and from one these countries but I don´t see any of them spouting ´christian nazi´ all over the place. And you say it´s Tami´s reaction to the global use of the words ´Muslim´ and ´Terrorist´ together - have you really seen that much of it in TC?? As far as I can see, any anti-Muslim feeling in TC seems to be almost solely concerning the treatment of women.
The issue with Tamtam is that he was not actually interested in debate, discussion or education. He is interested in inciting people and clearly too many people took his bait. Problem is, he wasn´t/isn´t the only one doing it.
Handsom always incited but was not taken to task for it (as far as anyone here could see) because his views seemed to be more "popular". Was the difference that he contributed to the forum in other ways and tami didn´t???
And Ros....another who is famous for inciting things with her cut-and-paste posting method.....quite similar to tami but again, more popular viewpoint???
People are too thin skinned. It´s really quite simple people.....if you don´t like what someone posts, don´t read it.
Do I care if someone calls me a christian or a nazi....hell no.....because I know I am neither.
Why is Tami deleted for saying "Christian Nazis" when people have regularly used the words "Muslim Terrorists". A regular member here once even said to Tami "are you taking flying lessons while you are in the US". Why is that acceptable?
I dont often agree with Tami´s posts and resent being called both ´Christian´ and ´Nazi´, but it is clear to me that the only reason he does that is in retaliation for the global use of the words "Muslim" and "terrorist" when referring to anyone from certain countries in the east. If we resent it when he returns the favour, then we should look to ourselves first.
The new rules of "Zero Tolerance" leaves us with a very vague set of rules to follow, i.e. if someone "finds something offensive" the post is deleted. This depends on the thickness of skin of cetain members surely? With regard to swearing, there is no determination as to whether swearing is banned completely (in which case most mods should be deleted too!!!). In summary, I see no change whatsoever, other than an increase in ambiguity.
I don´t think there´s a single member here who´s called all Muslims terrorists. Quite contrary, most people here act really delicately discussing things like Islam, women´s rights etc for fear of being politically incorrect. What is wrong about calling terrorists terrorists and Muslims Muslims? There are millions of Muslims in the world and only a small percentage are terrorists. Being Muslim does not mean you´re a terrorist. Just like being European doesn´t make you Christian or Nazi. Sure, there are people who call themselves both but why extend it over the whole population? The thing is while non-Muslim folks here always mark the line between Muslims and Muslim terrorists or Muslims and Radical Muslims, Tami felt that it´s ok to call all Europeans/Americans Nazi Christian. Am I the only one seeing the difference between his approach and people criticising Muslim terrorists?
I don´t think Tami deserved to be deleted, he was fun And besides, what harm has he done? Unless he resorts to personal insults he should be free to advocate whatever he wants. After all, Jesus was free to start his church, so was Mohammet, why not Tami (sav)? After all if you know he´s just wrong, why do you feel insulted? If I had him write that my feminism results from the fact that I have testicles it wouldn´t make it true, would it? It would just show he´s confabulating
To cut long story short, I want Tami back, he amused me and I´m gonna miss it.
And I wonder who dared to take offence at his words...I haven´t seen too many people complaining in the forums...
I don´t think Tami deserved to be deleted, he was fun And besides, what harm has he done? Unless he resorts to personal insults he should be free to advocate whatever he wants. After all, Jesus was free to start his church, so was Mohammet, why not Tami (sav)? After all if you know he´s just wrong, why do you feel insulted? If I had him write that my feminism results from the fact that I have testicles it wouldn´t make it true, would it? It would just show he´s confabulating
To cut long story short, I want Tami back, he amused me and I´m gonna miss it.
To cut long story short, I want Tami back, he amused me and I´m gonna miss it.
Yeah I do agree with this
Ama..... the Church of Tami? Tamifarianism?
Sounds better than MhsnSupertitizianism or Hayvanferifianism...Now, are memebres called Tamists or what? You may as well remain just an enthusiasts and then be called |Tamiphile, or you may act agains his doctrines and be called A-Tamist
Sounds better than MhsnSupertitizianism or Hayvanferifianism...Now, are memebres called Tamists or what? You may as well remain just an enthusiasts and then be called |Tamiphile, or you may act agains his doctrines and be called A-Tamist
HOw about The Holly Scrolls of TLC? or, perhaps, it should be something more technologically advanced like The Holy WeHateChristianNazists.Com Website?
HOw about The Holly Scrolls of TLC? or, perhaps, it should be something more technologically advanced like The Holy WeHateChristianNazists.Com Website?
I think The Tami Scrolls. Great - I will get them translated into 900 languages and distrubute them into hotel rooms right away boss!
He was a evil little man who loved snow globes. I shall miss the charm of his misguided hostility...his overall hatred of America and the ease with which he could spew his vemonous rhetoric! I can remember the first post like it was yesterday, "Nazi´s and other Evils of the West." Never had anyone dared to question the Good West V. Evil East before! Never had anyone turned the tables on us Bed Amerikans and Brits before (such an original thought!!).
Why don´t you all write a petition to Benedictus in Vatican City to ask if he can declare Tami holy? Maybe he can at the same time change November 1st from All Saints into ´Tami Deletion Day´......
Why don´t you all write a petition to Benedictus in Vatican City to ask if he can declare Tami holy? Maybe he can at the same time change November 1st from All Saints into ´Tami Deletion Day´......
Awwwww sorry canim - we realise that people who disagree with you MUST GO!
Yeah, I thought so But then I thought that it was pretty weird to react to PMs from anonymous users who do not participate in fights debates in the forums but read what others write and take personal offence. A bit like people peeping through other people´s windows and being deeply moved by nudity inside
But that´s just my thought.
OT (Off topic <-sorry, couldn´t resist ) is there a word in English describing a letter/phone to authorities or police in which people anonymously inform them about other people breaking the law? I tried online dictionaries but found nothing. The word I mean has negative conotations
It is really great that some people did not feel offended/annoyed by Tami or want him out. It is also not at issue what opinions he has -- his opinions were tolerated for a very long time and it was not until his notoriously hateful language reached our limits that his account was deleted. We do not have any obligation to have to tolerated his inciting hatred here daily and turning this forum to a place full of purely hateful posts of his. If he had taken the hint and learned to express actual opinions, then there would be no problem.
It is also not simply using the phrase "christian nazi" that gets people deleted, but a continuous usage and the resulting form of racism (for lack of a better word). The term "muslim terrorist" definitely has not been used here in the same way, if it was, it was definitely not a hate language (as it had always been in teh case of Tami).
And lastly, if Tami and those who defend him, are such reasonable, thick skinned people, why are they so touched by a single, very old remark about tami learning to fly airplanes?
OT (Off topic <-sorry, couldn´t resist ) is there a word in English describing a letter/phone to authorities or police in which people anonymously inform them about other people breaking the law? I tried online dictionaries but found nothing. The word I mean has negative conotations
Not sure if what you refer to has to be a letter, but the some of the nouns are: snitch, fink, weasl, stool pigeon, informant......although those are not necessarily anonymous.........and these are USA terms in particular.
Then there is the term Whistleblower, but that is considered heroic in as much as they are bringing to light practices which are against the public interest....think big tobacco....
It is really great that some people did not feel offended/annoyed by Tami or want him out. It is also not at issue what opinions he has -- his opinions were tolerated for a very long time and it was not until his notoriously hateful language reached our limits that his account was deleted. We do not have any obligation to have to tolerated his inciting hatred here daily and turning this forum to a place full of purely hateful posts of his. If he had taken the hint and learned to express actual opinions, then there would be no problem.
It is also not simply using the phrase "christian nazi" that gets people deleted, but a continuous usage and the resulting form of racism (for lack of a better word). The term "muslim terrorist" definitely has not been used here in the same way, if it was, it was definitely not a hate language (as it had always been in teh case of Tami).
And lastly, if Tami and those who defend him, are such reasonable, thick skinned people, why are they so touched by a single, very old remark about tami learning to fly airplanes?
Its really great that you felt you had to justify your actions to "us" - but as far as I am aware, we are still allowed to express our own opinion, and I still stand by mine.
I guess the collective remark made in the bottom paragraph was for me? Well I am neither thick skinned or claim to be "reasonable" but I still find it strange that such comments are tolerated while others are not.
By the way, may I be the first to wish you a very Happy Birthday
Its really great that you felt you had to justify your actions to "us" - but as far as I am aware, we are still allowed to express our own opinion, and I still stand by mine.
I guess the collective remark made in the bottom paragraph was for me? Well I am neither thick skinned or claim to be "reasonable" but I still find it strange that such comments are tolerated while others are not.
I did NOT feel that I had to justify my actions, just thought you´d be interested to know, that´s all! And you do not have to defend why you had posted here, you are quite allowed!
And once again, sincere apologies for any discrepancies in our moderating. Constructive criticism is welcome, and we´ll do all we can to listen and take into consideration all suggestions. We also greatly appreciate your (collective ) appreciation of our work!!
I did NOT feel that I had to justify my actions, just thought you´d be interested to know, that´s all! And you do not have to defend why you had posted here, you are quite allowed!
And once again, sincere apologies for any discrepancies in our moderating. Constructive criticism is welcome, and we´ll do all we can to listen and take into consideration all suggestions. We also greatly appreciate your (collective ) appreciation of our work!!
It is really great that you did NOT feel that you had to justify your actions
I would show a lot more appreciation to mods if Trudy they refrained from sarcastic comments and taunts about the rules being "the opinion of admin/mods" only.
Furthermore, Miss Catnip, you did NOT thank me for the birthday flowers!
Why don´t you all write a petition to Benedictus in Vatican City to ask if he can declare Tami holy? Maybe he can at the same time change November 1st from All Saints into ´Tami Deletion Day´......
What a great idea.....I am going to start making the prayer cards!!
I´m wondering why there wasn´t a cheap ticket from Izmir back home that went at a better time then 5 in the morning...ugh.... checked in at a quarter before 4, had a horrible drive to Adnan Menderes airport...seriously, what was that mist-bank all about?!?!
Now my thoughts go to my bed, but think I´ll be totally jet-lagged and I´ll wake up in the middle of the night if I go now...
Just wondering if the global conspiracy thingy might be linked to your being post-swine flu and overdoing Tamiflu
OMG - I used to also think Tamiflu was a drug, but I suspect it is EVEN WORSE than Swine Flu
Take care everyone - if you have ever had a post directly before or after one of Tami´s, if you have had DIRECT communication/arguments with him...you may also be infected!
TURKISH CLASS IS NOW IN QUARANTINE - TAMI FLU OUTBREAK!!!!!!!!
OMG - I used to also think Tamiflu was a drug, but I suspect it is EVEN WORSE than Swine Flu
Take care everyone - if you have ever had a post directly before or after one of Tami´s, if you have had DIRECT communication/arguments with him...you may also be infected!
TURKISH CLASS IS NOW IN QUARANTINE - TAMI FLU OUTBREAK!!!!!!!!
I am immune to Tamiflu! I get the shot every year. Perhaps this is why I can completely ignore it when there is an outbreak!!!! I hear though, that there is an "alpha" strain of the tamiflu. It causes any latent homophobic tendancies to surface!
Had my first midterm exam at ODTÜ, didn´t really go as hoped for. The wine with friends was a cheer up though. And having the house for myself for a week too!
Had my first midterm exam at ODTÜ, didn´t really go as hoped for. The wine with friends was a cheer up though. And having the house for myself for a week too!
The first ones are always the hardest, hang in there canim!
Had my first midterm exam at ODTÜ, didn´t really go as hoped for. The wine with friends was a cheer up though. And having the house for myself for a week too!
Sorry DK....if you´re not feeling better soon....just drink a little more wine!
Hahaha its a joke, I got an AA (as a grade, not as my new hangout place without wine).
Ohh Ive been missing warm wine here! They dont sell it in stores as far as Ive seen, but have been told that as soon as the cold kicks in (which it surely did), it will be sold in pubs and taverns! When midterms are over, here I come!
I´m wondering why it is possible to have my post delivered in Brasil, guaranteed, in three days...but when I want to send something to Turkey they say "uhhh...about 8 to 10 days...I don´t know...maybe longer... maybe shorter..."
I have received my wii at 18.50 And I´m very pleased with my wii fit Luckily there is not fat-meter on the thing... The wii just told me I can actually gain weight... he doesn´t have a clue... I´m just bones and fat
No, Alameda, I wasn´t talking about you although many a time it makes me wonder why you feel like providing links for concepts everyone who graduated from primary school is well familiar with. But, that´s your thing, it doesn´t make me scroll 10 pages just to read one sentence and so it doesn´t annoy me!
No, Alameda, I wasn´t talking about you although many a time it makes me wonder why you feel like providing links for concepts everyone who graduated from primary school is well familiar with. But, that´s your thing, it doesn´t make me scroll 10 pages just to read one sentence and so it doesn´t annoy me!
I provide links because I, and millions of others, was trained to provide footnotes in written material. The footnote provides information or source matter should one desire to do more research into the matter. As this is HTML....links perform a similar function.
Even though you are very well educated and don´t seem to require any additional references..............There may be others less well endowed, or just curious, who can use, and appreciate the links. I love links.
Its really a good feeling to able to pull out every screw on the laptop and seeing that there is no screw remained after gathering all the parts together
Its really a good feeling to able to pull out every screw on the laptop and seeing that there is no screw remained after gathering all the parts together
But i need a new fan? ((
Now how about putting all those screws back in the right places?........how many screws do you have there?
No, Alameda, I wasn´t talking about you although many a time it makes me wonder why you feel like providing links for concepts everyone who graduated from primary school is well familiar with. But, that´s your thing, it doesn´t make me scroll 10 pages just to read one sentence and so it doesn´t annoy me!
Quoting alameda
I provide links because I, and millions of others, was trained to provide footnotes in written material. The footnote provides information or source matter should one desire to do more research into the matter. As this is HTML....links perform a similar function.
Even though you are very well educated and don´t seem to require any additional references..............There may be others less well endowed, or just curious, who can use, and appreciate the links. I love links.
I know something about somebody I realllly don´t like. Somebody is trying to mess up his entire life... now my thought is...should I tell this guy I dislike that he´s being scammed, or should I just leave it, and hope for him to find out by himself or perhaps not even care if he finds out since he´s a not so good person.
I know something about somebody I realllly don´t like. Somebody is trying to mess up his entire life... now my thought is...should I tell this guy I dislike that he´s being scammed, or should I just leave it, and hope for him to find out by himself or perhaps not even care if he finds out since he´s a not so good person.
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...where´s my penny?
Hmmm.. interesting dilemma! Hope you find your penny somewhere in a store maybe..
I just thought that if you really appreciate someone´s work on the web site, you can say ´thank you´ by posting a comment on their profile. A "thank you page" is something we thought of doing a while ago, so this could be another way to achieve this goal..
How do I heal my mouth faster? Burned my mouth a few days ago, and the gums of my upper teeth are hurting (not the front teeth, just in the back). This makes it impossible for me to eat any kind of slightly hard food without hurting myself... And I like to eat But I don´t like to hurt myself ouch
How do I heal my mouth faster? Burned my mouth a few days ago, and the gums of my upper teeth are hurting (not the front teeth, just in the back). This makes it impossible for me to eat any kind of slightly hard food without hurting myself... And I like to eat But I don´t like to hurt myself ouch
You should use this as a chance to lose some pounds if you have any extra
You should use this as a chance to lose some pounds if you have any extra
hope you get well soon anyway
I don´t have any extra My almost famous wii fit told me that I was perfect (I think I love him) and that I could even gain a few pounds to reach the perfect BMI of 22! ... I´m not going to gain those pounds if it´s up to me though
Shouldn´t Birdy, who translated her nickname into Polish, spell it Ptaşek to make it easier to pronounce by Turks?
DD missed ,............paddy sold but keeping her Polish identity!!!!!!!!!!TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!why I cannot stay long away from youand where is femme....i tend to miss her............damn nostalgic i become...........
Shouldn´t Birdy, who translated her nickname into Polish, spell it Ptaşek to make it easier to pronounce by Turks?
tried to register as Birdy,birdiee,birdee
and so on but got the answer"the user name already exist....ptaszek sounds so nice and familiar...although ptashek can be AE pronouncation difficulty but I hope she will manage
I don´t have any extra My almost famous wii fit told me that I was perfect (I think I love him) and that I could even gain a few pounds to reach the perfect BMI of 22! ... I´m not going to gain those pounds if it´s up to me though
dont believe in them!! they always lie to make you addicted to them and love them
and so on but got the answer"the user name already exist....ptaszek sounds so nice and familiar...although ptashek can be AE pronouncation difficulty but I hope she will manage
Lemon, if you promise to make soup for me, I will get you a visa to the US...Texas is very warm!!
no joke, im serious. its bleedin cold here. im a good woman, get me outa here.
i promise i cook all sorts of soups for ya. send me visa, find an accomodation for me, or can i stay at your house? and then i cook you whatever you wish, even baklava.
no joke, im serious. its bleedin cold here. im a good woman, get me outa here.
i promise i cook all sorts of soups for ya. send me visa, find an accomodation for me, or can i stay at your house? and then i cook you whatever you wish, even baklava.
How about Turkey, where you would be seeing 4 seasons its not a desert like Texas also closer to your home Also soups are from me! but cant promise for a baklava
You can enjoy winter sports as well as get warm easily
How about Turkey, where you would be seeing 4 seasons its not a desert like Texas also closer to your home Also soups are from me! but cant promise for a baklava
You can enjoy winter sports as well as get warm easily
Elisabeth can you beat my bid?
I live in Southeast Texas....nowhere near a desert...stop trying to steal lemon from me! You only want her for the baklava!
There should be a button on msn that changes the tone of your comments...like "sarcasms font" and "joking voice font", "serious font", etc.... would really help a lot, and save my behind out of a lot of misunderstandings
There should be a button on msn that changes the tone of your comments...like "sarcasms font" and "joking voice font", "serious font", etc.... would really help a lot, and save my behind out of a lot of misunderstandings
thank you canim, you the most decent person in TC and i love you too
How do you know that she is the most decent person? Was there a "most decent person of 2009" contest that I didnt know about? Yilgun will hear of this!!!
.. I am thinking...that I have no resolutions for the new year. I remember having a bad end at 2008, and I said very loudly "2009 is going to be MY year, it will be GREAT!" ...and 2009 was my worst year EVER...everything that could go wrong did go wrong, so for 2010... I´m going to keep my mouth shut!!! And knock on every piece of wood I see
My thoughts...are empty... I don´t dare to have a thought for 2010...
ahh.. and I love it. that is.. if one didn´t have to drive on icy roads
Hahaha! I slid to work this morning.......... I tried desparately hard not to hit the heavy goods lorry on the tiny country roads........... and I expect to slide home tonight!!!!
I was thinking about the good old days, when I would go into a chat-room, about 10 years ago. Met an e-mail friend for life there. Chatrooms turned into weird horny guys-rooms pretty fast, which is a shame. And now I started to think about forums and such. I would like to get into contact with people from different countries, it´s always nice to talk to new people. But now when somebody sends you a pm in a forum, 9 out of 10 it´s spam from one of those weird horny guys! It´s a shame you can´t just meet healthy-headed people anymore, in an easy way. You have to treat anybody who says "hi" like a suspect
I was thinking about the good old days, when I would go into a chat-room, about 10 years ago. Met an e-mail friend for life there. Chatrooms turned into weird horny guys-rooms pretty fast, which is a shame. And now I started to think about forums and such. I would like to get into contact with people from different countries, it´s always nice to talk to new people. But now when somebody sends you a pm in a forum, 9 out of 10 it´s spam from one of those weird horny guys! It´s a shame you can´t just meet healthy-headed people anymore, in an easy way. You have to treat anybody who says "hi" like a suspect
I have to say, I have met some really nice people on this site. Sorry to hear you get so much spam.
I met a lot of great friends here too, but I never answer a "hi how are you gimme your msn" PMs. I have a rule of answering PMs only from people who post in the forum
I don´t smoke and don´t drink coffee... I already had tea and am still bored I did my daily voodoo ritual, and I already told my friend to call me if he´s free. My other friends, I already spoke to them today, so already know everything they had to tell me... I think I need to make some more friends
I don´t smoke and don´t drink coffee... I already had tea and am still bored I did my daily voodoo ritual, and I already told my friend to call me if he´s free. My other friends, I already spoke to them today, so already know everything they had to tell me... I think I need to make some more friends
Maybe you can find on the . Then you can spend all your time on the translation forum and being or over the dudu you met on the . Or you can just have more fun making up stories with smileys.
Nah, a dudu is not my style... but perhaps I can think of a dudu smiley...spend my time on designing it, and making the life of all turkish forum members easier.
Nah, a dudu is not my style... but perhaps I can think of a dudu smiley...spend my time on designing it, and making the life of all turkish forum members easier.
Nah, a dudu is not my style... but perhaps I can think of a dudu smiley...spend my time on designing it, and making the life of all turkish forum members easier.
So I just got back from a cruise with my Aunt who works for the police department. It just so happenes the activities director on our ship was Turkish. My Aunt mentions to me that her and her husband plays computer games against the Turks and how vulgar they are with their language. Her exact statement was "they use filthy language and hate Americans". Oh boy how that sadden me. Here I go again trying to defend a whole country.. See what a few bad seeds do...leaving a lasting impression. At least by the end of the cruise our Turkish director left a better impression of Turks.
So I just got back from a cruise with my Aunt who works for the police department. It just so happenes the activities director on our ship was Turkish. My Aunt mentions to me that her and her husband plays computer games against the Turks and how vulgar they are with their language. Her exact statement was "they use filthy language and hate Americans". Oh boy how that sadden me. Here I go again trying to defend a whole country.. See what a few bad seeds do...leaving a lasting impression. At least by the end of the cruise our Turkish director left a better impression of Turks.
So I just got back from a cruise with my Aunt who works for the police department. It just so happenes the activities director on our ship was Turkish. My Aunt mentions to me that her and her husband plays computer games against the Turks and how vulgar they are with their language. Her exact statement was "they use filthy language and hate Americans". Oh boy how that sadden me. Here I go again trying to defend a whole country.. See what a few bad seeds do...leaving a lasting impression. At least by the end of the cruise our Turkish director left a better impression of Turks.
maybe showing your aunt the "insulting britishness" thread would help her find out what hatred and filthy language mean.
I cannot use my interactive account because of mobile approval code, a new system in Turkish banks till 01/01/2010. They send a password to ur mobile via sms but since im abroad and my phone number which is recorded on their system is not open for roaming, i cannot receive smses. I called the customer services of my service provider to use roaming, they replied not possible since im abroad, i called the banks to change my phone number recorded on their system, they replied not possible since im abroad, i asked the girl on the phone "suppose im a person who is not using cellphones, dont i have right to use internet to access my account?", the answer was funny, she said " we sent you a device that generates mobile approval code with a reasonable price", i said "ok", but then she said "the first code will come to my cellphone". Simply now i have debts, i cannot pay, i need to send money but i cannot . The last way out is to send my sim card to Turkey ...
I cannot use my interactive account because of mobile approval code, a new system in Turkish banks till 01/01/2010. They send a password to ur mobile via sms but since im abroad and my phone number which is recorded on their system is not open for roaming, i cannot receive smses. I called the customer services of my service provider to use roaming, they replied not possible since im abroad, i called the banks to change my phone number recorded on their system, they replied not possible since im abroad, i asked the girl on the phone "suppose im a person who is not using cellphones, dont i have right to use internet to access my account?", the answer was funny, she said " we sent you a device that generates mobile approval code with a reasonable price", i said "ok", but then she said "the first code will come to my cellphone". Simply now i have debts, i cannot pay, i need to send money but i cannot . The last way out is to send my sim card to Turkey ...
The next step is to ask somebody to send you their mobile phones or laptops or paying off your debts
On a serious note, that´s a frustrating situation, kind of a catch 22 - if you can´t use a mobile, they´ll send you a device that´ll send you a code to your mobile. i hope you´ll get it sorted soon. And it´s strange you cannot activate roaming from abroad. I remember I did after I realised I hadn´t done it before going abroad. My friend went to my operator and said I needed it. And that was it.
The next step is to ask somebody to send you their mobile phones or laptops or paying off your debts
On a serious note, that´s a frustrating situation, kind of a catch 22 - if you can´t use a mobile, they´ll send you a device that´ll send you a code to your mobile. i hope you´ll get it sorted soon. And it´s strange you cannot activate roaming from abroad. I remember I did after I realised I hadn´t done it before going abroad. My friend went to my operator and said I needed it. And that was it.
I had already done it, my debts were paid, thanks to family , no problem till next month . Regarding the roaming, my operator says i should have opened roaming service before i had gone abroad. Btw im using an invoiced number, so they are also asking for ID card...
The new TLC source of all knowledge barbapedia has a lot to say on each topic from women-men affair ,phone lines ,etc,etc to Turkish internal issues,army,etc,etc
the hottest topic ever! it keeps coming back. and i still dont understand turks. im trying to, but my way of thinking fails me in getting into the turkish minds although im quite more turkish than anything else (i mean the mentality).
eu promised, eu failed. i think in some aspects mutually.
turkey is a power (according to turks themselves). the power in every sense - military, economy, territory, education etc!(which of course im trying to explain myself despite the huge proportions of turkish diaspora in all the western world)
then why eu is needed? then why turkey is offended so big time? why is this all whinning and anger?
oh, bwt, just two pennies of mine.
the whole discussion resembles the talks at the bazar which never ends and goes nowhere.
A few decades back, Turkey used to be a lot poorer than it is today. The country faced a series of catastrophies that began with the decline and the eventual collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
Turkey had to wage an unbelievably expensive war on dozens of fronts in a geography ranging from The Caucasus to North Africa. When everything was over, there was an Anatolia invaded by the British, French and Italian soldiers.
The road to the collapse of the empire began in the Balkans with the spread of the nationalist sentiment. You remember Lord Byron, Lawrence of Arabia etc. Turkish republic was founded on a similar nationalistic principles. The roots of Turkishness were sawn during that period. All the major events of the period including the alleged massacre of the Armenians can be linked to this nationalist upheaval.
We are talking about a staggering poverty, pain and unbearable sufferings which constituted the basis of ethnic awareness. The political machine that created this movement made sure that this nationalistic upheaval must be limited to the exact borders of the Ottoman Empire. We would observe years later during the collapse of the Soviet Empire that such things can be planned beforehand and with staggering precision.
Going back to Turkey: Ataturk determined that Turkey must turn its face to the West. He changed so many aspects of society in order to ease the transformation. He revolutionized the educational system to block the venues of superstitious thinking and backward philosophies.
After Ataturk´s death in 1938, another world war began. Though Turkey was not a part of it, it bore the devastating economic consequences. There was a huge economic crisis in the country. Food was sold by ration and the rapid industrialization that marked the first decades of the new republic had come to a halt.
In the 50´s a pro-American party won the election. They had a problem with some of the reforms Ataturk had introduced. They wanted to have a more Islamic Turkey and they wanted the country to follow the example of the US. Tightening mutual relations created a more obedient Turkey which determined its policies in line with the US.
Turkey became a member of many European organizations during this entire period. It was a founding member of The European Council, UN and NATO. Therefore, The EU is considered as a natural next step.
Economically, Turkey does not need the EU. Maybe we just think that we are looking for a better organized country with less conflict and more efficiency. As you can see, the entire history of the new republic is a history of Europeanization. It is such that the concept "europeanization" almost exclusively refer to Turkey.
Quoting lemon
Turkey and EU!
the hottest topic ever! it keeps coming back. and i still dont understand turks. im trying to, but my way of thinking fails me in getting into the turkish minds although im quite more turkish than anything else (i mean the mentality).
eu promised, eu failed. i think in some aspects mutually.
turkey is a power (according to turks themselves). the power in every sense - military, economy, territory, education etc!(which of course im trying to explain myself despite the huge proportions of turkish diaspora in all the western world)
then why eu is needed? then why turkey is offended so big time? why is this all whinning and anger?
oh, bwt, just two pennies of mine.
the whole discussion resembles the talks at the bazar which never ends and goes nowhere.
Wondering if a ´20 Best Fonts´ list or ´Font of the Week´ post is likely in the near future.
I was thinking along these lines when I was waiting to get my coffee this morning. They asked if I wanted the "coffee of the day".....I replied, "yilgun...is that you?"
A few decades back, Turkey used to be a lot poorer than it is today. The country faced a series of catastrophies that began with the decline and the eventual collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
Turkey had to wage an unbelievably expensive war on dozens of fronts in a geography ranging from The Caucasus to North Africa. When everything was over, there was an Anatolia invaded by the British, French and Italian soldiers.
The road to the collapse of the empire began in the Balkans with the spread of the nationalist sentiment. You remember Lord Byron, Lawrence of Arabia etc. Turkish republic was founded on a similar nationalistic principles. The roots of Turkishness were sawn during that period. All the major events of the period including the alleged massacre of the Armenians can be linked to this nationalist upheaval.
We are talking about a staggering poverty, pain and unbearable sufferings which constituted the basis of ethnic awareness. The political machine that created this movement made sure that this nationalistic upheaval must be limited to the exact borders of the Ottoman Empire. We would observe years later during the collapse of the Soviet Empire that such things can be planned beforehand and with staggering precision.
I had some friends (now passed on) who survived that period. They told me they used to collect animal dung to sift through, in the hope of finding grain, seeds or beans to salvage.
Very little is understood about this period. How many connect the Great Influenza Epidemic to that period? The Russian Revolution.....
Today is a special day of my beloved friend-a person who has always had good word for me,who always supports me,helps me not expecting anything in return,who I can rely on!!!!Happy birthday TAMI!!!!!!!!!
AEwould you please finish your vacation ,leave all dudus and come back!!!!The only ppl I can fool around with now are LIR and raindropsbut since I am running out of money you left for gifts I desparately need you.
Is ´Amber Lonsinger´ trying to compete with Yilgun, King of the Changing Font?? And why is it whenever I read ´Amber Lonsinger´ my brain thinks ´Pippi Longstocking´??
The place is under Polish siege...even an innocent topic like Irish-Turkish connections ends up with a plate of bigos and a shot of vodka. Run for the hills!
The place is under Polish siege...even an innocent topic like Irish-Turkish connections ends up with a plate of bigos and a shot of vodka. Run for the hills!
DD you know when evil cannot manage he sends Dobrowski´s girls!!!
Is ´Amber Lonsinger´ trying to compete with Yilgun, King of the Changing Font?? And why is it whenever I read ´Amber Lonsinger´ my brain thinks ´Pippi Longstocking´??
What is better...the beach in the winter or the beach in the summer?
On the one hand, empty beach, wind blowing through your hair, clearing your head... but also freezing your behind off.
On the other hand, sunshine, getting a tan, relaxing and swimming... but also being like sardines in a can on the crowded sand, children kicking balls in your face, and getting sun-burned.
What is better...the beach in the winter or the beach in the summer?
On the one hand, empty beach, wind blowing through your hair, clearing your head... but also freezing your behind off.
On the other hand, sunshine, getting a tan, relaxing and swimming... but also being like sardines in a can on the crowded sand, children kicking balls in your face, and getting sun-burned.
BM which beaches u r talking about?If Turkish I know such deserted ones in summer,that u would be surprised)))
turkishness under attack, again! the ghost of handsome scares the good turks and their good friends.
unite turks, unite, the ghost can bite your soft parts!
Honest question Lemon, I am not really trying to offend or anything, just expecting an honest answer. Why do I get the impression that you are actually enjoying this ?
i knew, that theres something wrong with you. you forgot i sent you to a psycho-mending doctor along with other members. i even paid for that.
btw, your defence of turkishness is hopeless. try harder.
Lemon ,I thought you are more intelligent than you appeared here.I am not defending anything right now,I am just ridiculing your own words and teasing you,which I love
as your answers are often so smart.As in example given.
It seems to me that my posts make you uneasy and you bother your Kazakh mind with me.Good.
Thank you for thinking about company for me,believe me if..we would have a lot of fun,so far our fun is observing your poor attempts to be wittyThank you and peace upon you too.
Honest question Lemon, I am not really trying to offend or anything, just expecting an honest answer. Why do I get the impression that you are actually enjoying this ?
of course I enjoy this. finally its something different from the poetry and love stuff.
you see, you change and exchange and develop thanks to such discussions. how else would you know other people´s thoughts? how else would you learn about other opinions other than turkishness supporting filled with praise and false flattering statements coming from self-praising and self-loving, self promoting turks helped out by the devoted fan group of ptaszek types members?
you see, the majority of turks (maybe like yourself) cant stand any criticisism of turks and turkey (including its culture and religion). e.g. armegon (and his friends) is terrified to discover posts that dont praise turkey or turkishness. and if another turk comes out and says something different he freaks out and panics and starts his "clown" terminology.
i mean how sad is that! is there any chance for a change?
of course I enjoy this. finally its something different from the poetry and love stuff.
you see, you change and exchange and develop thanks to such discussions. how else would you know other people´s thoughts? how else would you learn about other opinions other than turkishness supporting filled with praise and false flattering statements coming from self-praising and self-loving, self promoting turks helped out by the devoted fan group of ptaszek types members?
you see, the majority of turks (maybe like yourself) cant stand any criticisism of turks and turkey (including its culture and religion). e.g. armegon (and his friends) is terrified to discover posts that dont praise turkey or turkishness. and if another turk comes out and says something different he freaks out and panics and starts his "clown" terminology.
i mean how sad is that! is there any chance for a change?
Change, why? To become what in the end? It´s their good and bad qualities, together, that define the people called Turks(or any other group out there). Self-praising, self-glorification, unjustified pride, thinking they are different from every other people out there or whatever, these are an integral part of Turkish identity. Take, for example; being overprotective and jealous of ones woman. It is appreciated as a masculine attribute and is a huge turn on for many foreign women although they wouldn´t admit it (some do, you can read it up in the forums). But when it comes to being overprotective of ones country and nationality, is it suddenly a no-no ?. Well maybe both comes with the package and are somehow connected
Anyway; take all these features that you find Eastern/Backwards/Meaningless in Turkish people and replace them with Western values, you won´t have "perfect" Turks in the end, you will have swarthier Europeans. I for one, am not interested.
(Turks getting humiliated, Turks arguing with Turks, Turks exchanging phone numbers & adresses to beat each other up, I can´t see how this is triggering any change btw. Looks pretty old school to me. )
you see, the majority of turks (maybe like yourself) cant stand any criticisism of turks and turkey (including its culture and religion). e.g. armegon (and his friends) is terrified to discover posts that dont praise turkey or turkishness. and if another turk comes out and says something different he freaks out and panics and starts his "clown" terminology.
i mean how sad is that! is there any chance for a change?
@Yersu, its her character simply .
@ faulty, is there any chance for your hate of anything Turkish to change? Why are you so eager to criticize anything Turkish, at the same time here you are praising anything western? Do you want to teach Turks lesson? Anyway i know its because of hate. Its true now you find a new toy called inter, he talks instead of you, and you seem very comfortable with his silly jokes while you praising those. Faulty, there were many posts here, that dont praise holly Turks and Turkey before, werent they? And all were making you happy, do not be terrified if some of us opposes to those, its not always the truth... Sorry for squeezing lemon to your fun
Why are you so eager to criticize anything Turkish, at the same time here you are praising anything western?
I´m not lemon but I still will answer. I don´t think any of the regular posters here is only criticising Turkey or only praising the west. But in cases criticism or praise is at its place, it should be possible to do so. I love Turkey but I´m not blind for the bad things that happen. I also love my own country and for that I´m not blind as well, so I´ll praise when needed and I´ll criticise when needed. I´m just afraid that thát difference is something you don´t want to see, Armegon.
Thanks for the lesson Trudy, i will note those, dont worry ...
Quoting Trudy
I´m not lemon but I still will answer. I don´t think any of the regular posters here is only criticising Turkey or only praising the west. But in cases criticism or praise is at its place, it should be possible to do so. I love Turkey but I´m not blind for the bad things that happen. I also love my own country and for that I´m not blind as well, so I´ll praise when needed and I´ll criticise when needed. I´m just afraid that thát difference is something you don´t want to see, Armegon.
you see, you change and exchange and develop thanks to such discussions. how else would you know other people´s thoughts? how else would you learn about other opinions other than turkishness supporting filled with praise and false flattering statements coming from self-praising and self-loving, self promoting turks helped out by the devoted fan group of ptaszek types members?
you see, the majority of turks (maybe like yourself) cant stand any criticisism of turks and turkey (including its culture and religion). e.g. armegon (and his friends) is terrified to discover posts that dont praise turkey or turkishness. and if another turk comes out and says something different he freaks out and panics and starts his "clown" terminology.
i mean how sad is that! is there any chance for a change?
show me the country lemon in which ppl are not self-praising, self centred and self promoting.If there is such a country in which ppl will not behave like that I will tend to agree with you. You called me devoted fan,yes,I am but not of members here but of Turkey which I consider my second motherland.I see her vices but also her potential and love her,deeply.
Can you stand overcriticism? or criticism?Rhetorical question,no need to answer.
People in Turkey will not change if they don´t want and all efforts from foreigners do not make
sense.And why should they change,to flatter foreign expectations?To westernize in the way we did?To follow ilussions of being united?Let them be the way they are and tolerate them as they tolerate us.
show me the country lemon in which ppl are not self-praising, self centred and self promoting.If there is such a country in which ppl will not behave like that I will tend to agree with you. You called me devoted fan,yes,I am but not of members here but of Turkey which I consider my second motherland.I see her vices but also her potential and love her,deeply.
Can you stand overcriticism? or criticism?Rhetorical question,no need to answer.
People in Turkey will not change if they don´t want and all efforts from foreigners do not make
sense.And why should they change,to flatter foreign expectations?To westernize in the way we did?To follow ilussions of being united?Let them be the way they are and tolerate them as they tolerate us.
what the heck?
all nations are self-loving and self promoting less or more. and to your surprise, I dont condone that. only fools praise themselves. so this argument of yours i turn down.
you are not only a devoted fan, but an akward flatterer, the kinds I cant stand.
Btw, I am not asking turks to become westernized, because the positive values that may exist in the western countries arent their property. those values are for all. some of them are equality and tolerance. if you think these are the attributes of the west, and the east shouldnt apply I feel sorry for you.
so far I dont see turks flattering westerners, but other way around.
as for tolerance, dont be so smart, my darlink, you tolerate only things you like (what i know from your posts). and if anyone has come with other than turk praising you raise and oppose. hahaha so much of a tolerance. thank you!
all nations are self-loving and self promoting less or more. and to your surprise, I dont condone that. only fools praise themselves. so this argument of yours i turn down.
you are not only a devoted fan, but an akward flatterer, the kinds I cant stand.
Btw, I am not asking turks to become westernized, because the positive values that may exist in the western countries arent their property. those values are for all. some of them are equality and tolerance. if you think these are the attributes of the west, and the east shouldnt apply I feel sorry for you.
so far I dont see turks flattering westerners, but other way around.
as for tolerance, dont be so smart, my darlink, you tolerate only things you like (what i know from your posts). and if anyone has come with other than turk praising you raise and oppose. hahaha so much of a tolerance. thank you!
you still are spreading your hatred,not nice in a case of a devoted christian but your christianity must be the old testament one,obviously.
if you can´t stand my posts don´t read them -it will save your headaches in fact "lata mi to koło d*****"
you are not an authority to judge people from their post.Have you heard"do not appear before host" anyway your attempts to play God like are appreciated.
And I don´t care about your response or your interest in me.You simply measure me your own measure.Bcs of it I also feel sorry for you.
you still are spreading your hatred,not nice in a case of a devoted christian but your christianity must be the old testament one,obviously.
if you can´t stand my posts don´t read them -it will save your headaches in fact "lata mi to koło d*****"
you are not an authority to judge people from their post.Have you heard"do not appear before host" anyway your attempts to play God like are appreciated.
And I don´t care about your response or your interest in me.You simply measure me your own measure.Bcs of it I also feel sorry for you.
Wow! Tc is boiling and I had nothing to do with it
Ok, now my thoughts:
reading Polish forums, I read posts by Poles about how crappy our country is and everybody insults everybody
reading Irish forums, i read posts by Paddies about how crappy their country is and some people insult everybody
reading TC, I read posts by Turks about how little does the west know about their magnificence and when one person says that "we Turks are not so maginificent" he gets jumped on as if he suggested introducing compulsory pork lunches at school.
Ohh really? Did they say in those forums that Irishs and Poles rape their daughters & sons, abuse their relatives? Did they say Irishs and Poles wanna sleep with married foreign women? If so, sorry we dont put all blame on whole nation by generalizing because of perverts. By the way you think this forum is full of Turks, if you want to see, how crappy Turkey and Turks, you should visit Turkish discussion forums, insults are flying but first you should learn Turkish if you are that interested.
Quoting Daydreamer
Wow! Tc is boiling and I had nothing to do with it
Ok, now my thoughts:
reading Polish forums, I read posts by Poles about how crappy our country is and everybody insults everybody
reading Irish forums, i read posts by Paddies about how crappy their country is and some people insult everybody
reading TC, I read posts by Turks about how little does the west know about their magnificence and when one person says that "we Turks are not so maginificent" he gets jumped on as if he suggested introducing compulsory pork lunches at school.
Armegoncim, the Irish constantly joke about interbreeding It´s a small, isolated island, you know Poles don´t talk about incest, they just call each other thieves, parasites, morons etc. The only Turkish forum I used to read back in the day when I could understand written Turkish was seslisozluk. And it was a really nice place, people got banned at even the slightest suspection of critique of turkey
Poles look like Turks then, seslisozluk is not a suitable forum i think, visit somewhere where politics being discussed, you will see the same things, as you said people call eachother thieves, idiots other insults you cannot imagine ...
Quoting Daydreamer
Armegoncim, the Irish constantly joke about interbreeding It´s a small, isolated island, you know Poles don´t talk about incest, they just call each other thieves, parasites, morons etc. The only Turkish forum I used to read back in the day when I could understand written Turkish was seslisozluk. And it was a really nice place, people got banned at even the slightest suspection of critique of turkey
Armegoncim, the Irish constantly joke about interbreeding It´s a small, isolated island, you know Poles don´t talk about incest, they just call each other thieves, parasites, morons etc. The only Turkish forum I used to read back in the day when I could understand written Turkish was seslisozluk. And it was a really nice place, people got banned at even the slightest suspection of critique of turkey
and my questions about turkish womens rights never got answered its a taboo too.
Ohh really? Did they say in those forums that Irishs and Poles rape their daughters & sons, abuse their relatives? Did they say Irishs and Poles wanna sleep with married foreign women? If so, sorry we dont put all blame on whole nation by generalizing because of perverts. By the way you think this forum is full of Turks, if you want to see, how crappy Turkey and Turks, you should visit Turkish discussion forums, insults are flying but first you should learn Turkish if you are that interested.
Oh evet tabii canım.... for the Irish anyway! armegon, if you where in Ireland you would see a nation full of people fiercely proud of being Irish yet never fail to run their country down haha... and as for the rest, oh you have no idea, (I don´t think I really need to mention the whole sickening priest scandal)
btw, this is the land where the nickname sheepshagger is a term of endearment
awww! Goodmorning, Miss Lemon! It is a very nice and sunny day, isn´n it? I am seeing butterflies flying, hearing birds singing, feeling the sun shining... Life (and perhaps love as well) is beuatiful... Well.. the bottom line: marry me?
Hi girlygirl! You know, whether only today or not is a pure secret between us. Ok, here is the bottom line: marry me? hehe!
Ohhh I have waited years to hear these words from you pagli
Quoting pagliaccio
awww! Goodmorning, Miss Lemon! It is a very nice and sunny day, isn´n it? I am seeing butterflies flying, hearing birds singing, feeling the sun shining... Life (and perhaps love as well) is beuatiful... Well.. the bottom line: marry me?
OK, OK, I admit it...I am anxiously awaiting dudu season this year. Looking forward to all the "I love you" translations...then by September the, "I know how busy you are, but please when you buy more credits would you text me?" translations and finally in December the "do you think he is cheating" translations. Usually by January we are into the, "you broke my heart, but I will always love you...will never forget you," translations. After all these years on TC, I am not sure if my Turkish is improving or if the messages are just looking familiar.
I´m glad lemon will join the fight against Westernization. Soon we will not find the lemon on this evil invention called internet anymore, since it is clearly too Western and brings in too many Western evilness into the lemon-tree. Next step, throwing the phone, tv and radio out of the house.
I´m glad lemon will join the fight against Westernization. Soon we will not find the lemon on this evil invention called internet anymore, since it is clearly too Western and brings in too many Western evilness into the lemon-tree. Next step, throwing the phone, tv and radio out of the house.
what a nonsense! you talk as if technology and scientifical advance means westernization!
how short-sighted and limited your thinking is!
by advising me to throw phones away you talk simpletons. my argument is not about technology. its about morality.
Internet, discovered by one of those evil Western people... Phone, same story, TV, same story.. Come on, why be so hypocritical? I thought Westernization was something bad right, so why join in the using of these Western devices that broadcast Western opinions throughout the world?
Internet, discovered by one of those evil Western people... Phone, same story, TV, same story.. Come on, why be so hypocritical? I thought Westernization was something bad right, so why join in the using of these Western devices that broadcast Western opinions throughout the world?
go back to my previous post. I talk MORALITY.
most of our technological inventions we too owe to japan, korea and israel, miss!
How do you know that? Im talking about millions of years of savings, not only talking about modern age. It should be generalization of course ...
how do i know what?
how do you know about millions of years? what millions of years? where?
I wasnt generally talking about science. Notice that I mentioned westernization and Barba interpreted it as a scientific heritage or technological advance.
didnt you know that westernization means TV, radio, phone and Internet. and the west holds the patten for that?
Media like internet are a vehicle Westernization. I think I made that point clear but I guess I have to spell it out.
My guess that the remark about Jesus being a liberal Jew, was more about his judging of other people. The way Jesus has been described, Jesus seemed to be well aware of human limitations, and didn´t judge people for these limitations. He was more liberal in the sense that he wasn´t pressuring other people into being very strict Jews, and would judge them and preach doom and gloom if they would slip up. Error is human. This is a good lesson to learn, whatever your religion is. To NOT judge people. He without sin cast the first stone...
Some followers of Jesus have seemed to forgotten all about these lessons. And that´s a shame. People have turned religion into something that is used to judge others, instead of improving ones own ways of living, and improving the lives of others with love and without judgement.
Media like internet are a vehicle Westernization. I think I made that point clear but I guess I have to spell it out.
My guess that the remark about Jesus being a liberal Jew, was more about his judging of other people. The way Jesus has been described, Jesus seemed to be well aware of human limitations, and didn´t judge people for these limitations. He was more liberal in the sense that he wasn´t pressuring other people into being very strict Jews, and would judge them and preach doom and gloom if they would slip up. Error is human. This is a good lesson to learn, whatever your religion is. To NOT judge people. He without sin cast the first stone...
Some followers of Jesus have seemed to forgotten all about these lessons. And that´s a shame. People have turned religion into something that is used to judge others, instead of improving ones own ways of living, and improving the lives of others with love and without judgement.
All you stating is that Media and any other gadgets are the tools used for any propaganda.
Jesus was not a liberal. He said those who dont believe in Me will go to Hell. How about that? I repeat He was controversial, because He shook the grounds under the hypocrite jews and their priests. He called to love one another even enemies. Does this make Him liberal? Since when liberty equals love?
Hmm, and in my bible studies they always said that Jesus said he was the son of God, and he himself never actually stated that he WAS God. I guess I need to dust my bible of again, to find that passage in which Jesus said the believe in Me or go to hell comment.
Hmm, and in my bible studies they always said that Jesus said he was the son of God, and he himself never actually stated that he WAS God. I guess I need to dust my bible of again, to find that passage in which Jesus said the believe in Me or go to hell comment.
If you dont mind, i will also try to answer this. I am not much knowledged about christianity & its doctrines. But regarding what i read about christianity, i think your question is related to doctrine trinity which is such confusing, in other words not only bibles and gospels. So your question is related to term "triune and or trinity" means "One God in three persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit". None is greater than the other, none is dissimilar in substance than the other. In that case Jesus is also God and in that case what lemon said is truth according to principles of christianity. Christians please correct me if i am wrong ...
Hmm, and in my bible studies they always said that Jesus said he was the son of God, and he himself never actually stated that he WAS God. I guess I need to dust my bible of again, to find that passage in which Jesus said the believe in Me or go to hell comment.
Actually...he did say in John 14:6 "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Which can be loosely interpreted to mean that you will not get to heaven except thru me. I just hink Jesus was too polite to say..."believe in me or go to hell." He knew he was the son of God and had an understanding that you must acknowledge that to get to the kingdom of heaven.
I don´t really want to enter into this argument...but I couldn´t help myself...
I was talking about what Jesus said, and I know the passages that were presented here before. Thanx for giving them I know that for Christians Jesus is basically God, but I was talking about statements that Jesus himself made. I´m pretty sure he mentioned believe in God But I was doubtfull about the "worship me or end up in hell" thing.
I was talking about what Jesus said, and I know the passages that were presented here before. Thanx for giving them I know that for Christians Jesus is basically God, but I was talking about statements that Jesus himself made. I´m pretty sure he mentioned believe in God But I was doubtfull about the "worship me or end up in hell" thing.
I am going to have to start praying for you barba!
If you dont mind, i will also try to answer this. I am not much knowledged about christianity & its doctrines. But regarding what i read about christianity, i think your question is related to doctrine trinity which is such confusing, in other words not only bibles and gospels. So your question is related to term "triune and or trinity" means "One God in three persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit". None is greater than the other, none is dissimilar in substance than the other. In that case Jesus is also God and in that case what lemon said is truth according to principles of christianity. Christians please correct me if i am wrong ...
You are more knowledgable than our friends from post-christian countries. You are correct.
I guess people didn´t understand my comment. I wasn´t talking about what Christians believe (shortly said, Jesus is God), but what Jesus himself said (believe in God, he didn´t say believe in the man who is Jesus).
I don´t think Jesus was a liberal in the sense that he said that the rules of the Thora should be bend or something. I think he was strict in that sense of the word. But I think he was forgiving to those who slipped up, and in that sense was a liberal. I guess it is a difference in what people see as liberal or not. My view of somebody who´s not liberal, is somebody who is not only strict on himself but also very quick to judge others and be unforgiving if they don´t follow the rules. For me, Jesus is not that type of man. I don´t think Jesus would stand behind the crusades for example. He doesn´t seem the "believe in the Christian religion or I´ll chop your head off" type.
Speaking about Dutch. I am watching a film about a great woman whom many Dutch dont remember today because they are too busy with their freedom "to love themselves".
Speaking about Dutch. I am watching a film about a great woman whom many Dutch dont remember today because they are too busy with their freedom "to love themselves".
Corrie Ten Boom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBEPb2knrHY
Indeed, I never heard of her so I just read her biography on Wikipedia. She was a resistance fighter in WWII and, I think more important, an evangelist of very orthodox-protestant beliefs. For me not too interesting, what I read sounds a lot like these television evangelists like Billy Graham.
Indeed, I never heard of her so I just read her biography on Wikipedia. She was a resistance fighter in WWII and, I think more important, an evangelist of very orthodox-protestant beliefs. For me not too interesting, what I read sounds a lot like these television evangelists like Billy Graham.
You are a generation of hippies, no wonder you know things that can be only interesting to your own pleasure.
I call you ignorant, because you said Corrie was resistance fighter, which she never was. You compared her to Billy Graham, a tele-evangelist who has a comfortable life and enjoys his fame, which she never was either.
I haven´t heard about her either, and I´m from a different generation as Trudy... So... how about that I don´t know if you realise this, but there were a lot of brave women in Holland who were in the resistence. We can´t know the name of every single one of them. Do you know the name of every single person who did something good for your country? I do honour everybody who wasn´t afraid too fight for freedom in the war. So respect to this previously unknown (to me) woman, even though I might not agree with her religious views.
Now perhaps you should stop calling everybody who doesn´t agree with you a hippy. You´re starting to sound like Cartman from Southpark.
You are a generation of hippies, no wonder you know things that can be only interesting to your own pleasure.
I call you ignorant, because you said Corrie was resistance fighter, which she never was. You compared her to Billy Graham, a tele-evangelist who has a comfortable life and enjoys his fame, which she never was either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhVC9q_ZlDs
Ignorant or not, Corrie WAS in the resistance in WWII (Dutch resistance against the Germans, she and her family helped Jews, they ended up in a concentration camp Ravensbruck). I compared her to Billy Graham not because of her life style but because she was preaching like he was.
Just thinking that how lovely it can be to see Pagli and Ptaszek tying the knots and she lives happily ever after in a way she decides not come to tc anymore and I eventually miss her too.. I know it is dream but I always hope
Just thinking that how lovely it can be to see Pagli and Ptaszek tying the knots and she lives happily ever after in a way she decides not come to tc anymore and I eventually miss her too.. I know it is dream but I always hope
haha..i am rolling wih laughter..well, not coming to Tlc when you hate the Black sea,which i love..when you want to have a peace i love to disturb)))when you came back when i was about to leave))) when you are a hidden nationalist whereas i am open???forget!!!!!!!!!
Julien Sorel and Oblomov: Two different, even almost opposite, heroes of the two well-known novels: The Red and The Black by Stendhal and Oblomov by Goncharov. I was once like a Julien Sorel - rash, dynamic, agile, energetic. Because I had already implemented and expreienced my own French Revolution. For some time, however, I feel exactly like Oblomov - lazy, indolent, weak, boring, suffocating... calm before the storm... Then this time I must be waiting for my own Russian Revolution. I´m waiting and will see...
Im sick and tired of those who look for a dirt under your nails. Of those who constantly are offended by anything or anyone. You cant say this or that. Whatever you say or do offends someone.
Im sick and tired of those who look for a dirt under your nails. Of those who constantly are offended by anything or anyone. You cant say this or that. Whatever you say or do offends someone.
Folks, it doesnt make sense. Get a life! Breathe!
Lemon I am offended by this comment! My nails are very clean...how can you even THINK I would have dirt under them?!?!
I have been here for just a few days, a few people already have asked for my deletion..
Geezz..
you are again flattering yourself!!!I haven´t asked it ..what I did was asking for my account deletion but kocurek does not want me to go...so!!!Geeezzzzzzzz and other sighs to pocket...yeni turku on....we will see again at battle field balim))))sooonnnnnnnnnn
you are again flattering yourself!!!I haven´t asked it ..what I did was asking for my account deletion but kocurek does not want me to go...so!!!Geeezzzzzzzz and other sighs to pocket...yeni turku on....we will see again at battle field balim))))sooonnnnnnnnnn
I was not to be honest.. I was just a bit surprised to see that..
But anyway, I have changed..as you can see I am not that argumentative anymore!!
you are again flattering yourself!!!I haven´t asked it ..what I did was asking for my account deletion but kocurek does not want me to go...so!!!Geeezzzzzzzz and other sighs to pocket...yeni turku on....we will see again at battle field balim))))sooonnnnnnnnnn
I think, may be I should make it public to all my friends and all my non friends:
I do no longer consider myself as a dudu!!!
I am elevating myself to a guru level and I would like to think that I am a dudu-guru.
From now on I will be doing ´consultancy only´ on this matter.
The handsome!!! you are baaaack! ... and the best of all... you don´t consider yourself a dudu anymore!!... wonder why?... i hope you remember me, and i am not here writing too much and looking like a crazy stalker hahahaha... anyway long time has passed..
The handsome!!! you are baaaack! ... and the best of all... you don´t consider yourself a dudu anymore!!... wonder why?... i hope you remember me, and i am not here writing too much and looking like a crazy stalker hahahaha... anyway long time has passed..
Oh I remember you!!! You´re the one with the low self-esteem problem!!!
The handsome!!! you are baaaack! ... and the best of all... you don´t consider yourself a dudu anymore!!... wonder why?... i hope you remember me, and i am not here writing too much and looking like a crazy stalker hahahaha... anyway long time has passed..
Awwww..Kemale..
How can I forget you and your wisdom..
I just checked your profile..Now you are married.. wow..(I think you were not, 2 years ago)
Your husband is so lucky..
And now I feel pessimistic and depressed again as I know in my heart, I will never be able to find a girl as wise as you are..
Back button is a browser functionality, it should work independent of the site you are on. Can it be not working because you opened a link in a new tab or a new window?
It became very hot lately - this summer weather came suddenly out of nowhere. First day I thought it would disappear soon since such nice days dont last long.
Plus days are longer and you can enjoy the light, the Sun.
I just checked your profile..Now you are married.. wow..(I think you were not, 2 years ago)
Your husband is so lucky..
And now I feel pessimistic and depressed again as I know in my heart, I will never be able to find a girl as wise as you are..
offf...
I want to get drunk ..
i didnt mean to make you feel this way.. you are kidding right?... i know it will pass, cause you know there are always newbies coming around, fresh air to welcome! oyyyy my always remembered handsome after all this time you should have already learn to get some girls don´t ya? hueheuheue if not im here to continue sharing my wisdom with you hahahaha
and yes, i got married, you are right i wasnt before...and now i live in istanbul!!! two years passed and after living in colombia with my husband we moved here.... and the best is that FINALLY i am learning turkish... i am actually going to an academy...tömer of the university of ankara... have you heard of it?
i didnt mean to make you feel this way.. you are kidding right?... i know it will pass, cause you know there are always newbies coming around, fresh air to welcome! oyyyy my always remembered handsome after all this time you should have already learn to get some girls don´t ya? hueheuheue if not im here to continue sharing my wisdom with you hahahaha
and yes, i got married, you are right i wasnt before...and now i live in istanbul!!! two years passed and after living in colombia with my husband we moved here.... and the best is that FINALLY i am learning turkish... i am actually going to an academy...tömer of the university of ankara... have you heard of it?
anyway its good to be back...
Well excuse me Kemale but 2 whole years passed and it is same old same old..
It seems no newbies or no fresh air for me at all..I am beginning to believe some are born lucky (ie your husband) and some are born cursed (like me). May be this is simply my faith..
I am really happy for you that you live in Istanbul now and everything has been working for you very well...
Well maybe, just thinking laudly, do you have a sister or a friend around? I am not expecting them as wise as you are but with this rate, I have no hope for myself at all....
where is this picture you say? on his profile you say?
Noooooo! Let me explain - theh said he was taking his top off......you mentioned The Sun....I was hoping you wouldn´t see theh on Page 3.....I was trying to be funny....clearly it didn´t work...
Noooooo! Let me explain - theh said he was taking his top off......you mentioned The Sun....I was hoping you wouldn´t see theh on Page 3.....I was trying to be funny....clearly it didn´t work...
Why are you seeming to tremble and fear of lemon, LIR? Does she have a whip in hand, or what?
Noooooo! Let me explain - theh said he was taking his top off......you mentioned The Sun....I was hoping you wouldn´t see theh on Page 3.....I was trying to be funny....clearly it didn´t work...
Well excuse me Kemale but 2 whole years passed and it is same old same old..
It seems no newbies or no fresh air for me at all..I am beginning to believe some are born lucky (ie your husband) and some are born cursed (like me). May be this is simply my faith..
I am really happy for you that you live in Istanbul now and everything has been working for you very well...
Well maybe, just thinking laudly, do you have a sister or a friend around? I am not expecting them as wise as you are but with this rate, I have no hope for myself at all....
well dear handsome what can i say... first of all i think everyone is lucky, the difference is that luck arrives at different times of life for everyone!! so just be patient...
otherside if you are not kidding, i DO have a sister and she is single!, she is very intelligent and to be honest, very beautiful!!... ... you will have to pass me your CV so i can study it... ah and dont forget picture is obligatory!!
well dear handsome what can i say... first of all i think everyone is lucky, the difference is that luck arrives at different times of life for everyone!! so just be patient...
otherside if you are not kidding, i DO have a sister and she is single!, she is very intelligent and to be honest, very beautiful!!... ... you will have to pass me your CV so i can study it... ah and dont forget picture is obligatory!!
But Kemale..
I have been patient all those years and nothing has changed I dont think I am lucky at all.. I really think that actually I am sooo unlucky..
But who knows..May be my luck is changing I am sure your sister is very beautiful and smart. Of course. Because She is YOUR sister
I am sending you my CV with a picture
You will also see my email and tel number, in case you need to contact me
Thought this was worth some thought. How many argument fallacies can be identified on this website? We are ALL guilty!
Top 10 Argument Fallacies Of All Time
1. Ad Hominem Argument: Disputing a position or argument by criticizing its source.
2. Straw Man: Disputing a position by exaggerating it, misrepresenting it or otherwise distorting it
3. Argument from Outrage: This should be self-explanatory. Many political talk shows are often reduced to shouting matches where guests compete for the loudest volume and sharpest insults
4. Scare tactics: Utilizing fear, not evidence, in one´s argument.
5. Hasty Conclusion: Also known as over-generalizing. For example, it´s a hasty generalization that all baseball players use steroids simply because a few have developed bulging neck muscles.
6. Group Think: When loyalty to a group values affects one´s own judgement in ways that range from the amusing to the dangerous.
7. Red Herring: This attention-span fallacy works best on people who are unable to stay focused long enough to notice that the question answered is not the question that was asked.
8. Wishful thinking: A refusal to acknowledge the truth.
9. Argument from popularity: Believing that if "everyone" believes it, it must be true.
10. Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc: Just because two things happened around the same time doesn´t mean one caused the other.
Source: Moore. B & Richard P. (2008) Critical Thinking (8th Ed)
If this wasn´t leading to a horrible environmental disaster, it would be quite funny to see how BP is coming up with idiotic plans all the time to stop the oil spill. Who would have thought, that the "let´s shoot garbage at it" plan would fail?
If this wasn´t leading to a horrible environmental disaster, it would be quite funny to see how BP is coming up with idiotic plans all the time to stop the oil spill. Who would have thought, that the "let´s shoot garbage at it" plan would fail?
Bloody pathetic - if only that was strong enough to describe this nothing short of catastrophic disaster....... I know "we will drill some more holes" plan sounds like another good one, that is if the "lets use robbots" plan fails!
Eye for an eye is an ancient law to regulate the social life. It is not about hitting one another as you simplified in your example. It was an actual law practiced in its all seriousness. There was a judicial system who took care of disputes. You intentionally broke someone´s arm or leg yours would be broen as an act of justice, so you would learn a lesson of pain and misery.
People like you or your guru Ghandi pay no attention to the ancient civilizations reality but analyze it through the eyes of a humanist. You cant simply comment on the issues that happent long time ago.
Eye for an eye is an ancient law to regulate the social life. It is not about hitting one another as you simplified in your example. It was an actual law practiced in its all seriousness. There was a judicial system who took care of disputes. You intentionally broke someone´s arm or leg yours would be broen as an act of justice, so you would learn a lesson of pain and misery.
People like you or your guru Ghandi pay no attention to the ancient civilizations reality but analyze it through the eyes of a humanist. You cant simply comment on the issues that happent long time ago.
An eye for an eye was a good law when it was written. I know this, I have read my bunch of history (and religious) books. Before it was, you break my teeth, and I will kill you. But to go on about how "an eye for an eye just makes people lose on eye" is clearly not understanding the point Ghandi tried to make. People seem to think that what horrible actions they do are justified, because somebody else did something to them first. American airplanes bombs a mountain village in Afghanistan because an Afghani trained-terrorist bombed a building killing thousands... seems to be eye for an eye, does it not? If you are only looking for a calculation sum, you are clearly missing the point.
And yes, I think Ghandi was a pretty great guy. You disagree?
An eye for an eye was a good law when it was written. I know this, I have read my bunch of history (and religious) books. Before it was, you break my teeth, and I will kill you. But to go on about how "an eye for an eye just makes people lose on eye" is clearly not understanding the point Ghandi tried to make. People seem to think that what horrible actions they do are justified, because somebody else did something to them first. American airplanes bombs a mountain village in Afghanistan because an Afghani trained-terrorist bombed a building killing thousands... seems to be eye for an eye, does it not? If you are only looking for a calculation sum, you are clearly missing the point.
And yes, I think Ghandi was a pretty great guy. You disagree?
This is an ancient law that you and your friend Ghandi are turning into a philosophy and thus feeling you are smarter than those in the ancient times.
I have no intention to understand Ghandi. My reason is you dont make an ornage out of an apple.
Now, talking about bombings in Afghanistan. This is politics and this is money. War is a big business. The war in Iraq is not held out revenge but out of politics and business. "The Revenge" was created for the mass via mass media.
As for Ghandi. No, I dont think he was a great guy. Neither is Mandela together with Dalailama.
If you don´t understand the great influence of people like Ghandi and Mandela, than your brain works in a totally different way than mine. You must not see the greatness in people bringing peace without firing guns. If you don´t see that, than anything I might say here will have the same effect as talking to a wall. For whatever reason you don´t think that what these people did is special, I disagree with you. This does not mean I have disrespect for past customs. It is just a disagreement. Let´s just keep it at that.
If you don´t understand the great influence of people like Ghandi and Mandela, than your brain works in a totally different way than mine. You must not see the greatness in people bringing peace without firing guns. If you don´t see that, than anything I might say here will have the same effect as talking to a wall. For whatever reason you don´t think that what these people did is special, I disagree with you. This does not mean I have disrespect for past customs. It is just a disagreement. Let´s just keep it at that.
That is absolutely correct.
Strange, yesterday I too wanted to write the same "talking to the wall".
I believe in God and only Him I respect and worship. Everything and everyone that is not from God is evil. Men´s good deeds are filthy rugs in the eyes of God.
People create their own heros and gods such as Ghandi or Mandela or even Obama.
Strange, yesterday I too wanted to write the same "talking to the wall".
I believe in God and only Him I respect and worship. Everything and everyone that is not from God is evil. Men´s good deeds are filthy rugs in the eyes of God.
People create their own heros and gods such as Ghandi or Mandela or even Obama.
This is the reason.
What does this have to do with God? Saying that Ghandi and Mandela were great men, does not discredit God in any way. Mandela himself said that his believe in God, and his Christian religion gave him the strength he needed during is trials. I think I can say that somebody is a great man, without disrespecting God. Otherwise we should also delete all human names from the bible, the quran, etc. Saying men´s good deed are filthy rugs, is REALLY not understand what goodness is. So, when I help people, as I always thought God wants me to, he is despising me? Why am I doing it then? Might as well sit at home, and complain and be angry all the time then.
What does this have to do with God? Saying that Ghandi and Mandela were great men, does not discredit God in any way. Mandela himself said that his believe in God, and his Christian religion gave him the strength he needed during is trials. I think I can say that somebody is a great man, without disrespecting God. Otherwise we should also delete all human names from the bible, the quran, etc. Saying men´s good deed are filthy rugs, is REALLY not understand what goodness is. So, when I help people, as I always thought God wants me to, he is despising me? Why am I doing it then? Might as well sit at home, and complain and be angry all the time then.
First and foremost to make things clear, God is the jealous God. People´s worshipping Ghandi and Madela discredits God. You know, they say that Hitler too was a christian. If Mandela was a true believer he wouldnt do things he has done in his life.
Human names are discriptors and are not for to worship. Human names in the Bible are there to tell the stories.
I didnt say that men´s good deeds are filthy rugs, Jesus did. So you are saying that Jesus didnt have an understanding of what goodness is.
Why are you helping? I tell you, you are doing it out of your own glory. You want people see and know that you are helping them. There is no a single good human being in this world.
You do not believe in God. Your human reasoning is understandble and suitable only for humans, but God stands above all and He wont play the games humans play.
You are not from God. Everyone who doesnt worship God is not from God.
I know its difficult to understand.
May I ask what your believes are? Do you have a religion, or a private set of believes, because I´m totally lost in trying to figure out what the heck you believe in.
May I ask what your believes are? Do you have a religion, or a private set of believes, because I´m totally lost in trying to figure out what the heck you believe in.
Because Barba you know nothing about religions. You think you know and you are trying to figure out my religion. I dont have a religion. I have a faith. I believe in Jesus Christ. You believe in yourself, in your own goodness and kindness. Believe me, men´s good deeds are filthy rugs in the eyes of God.
Now you and other TC-ists may think I am gone crazy. Its ok.
Believe me, men´s good deeds are filthy rugs in the eyes of God.
Says who.... You? Your God??
Not you nor anyone in this earth is the voice of God (with all my respect)... The existing Prophets were messengers sent to guide people in their way finding God by prophecies and revelations... And absolutely you and your words are not one of them so you can´t say what God´s opinion is regarding any topic...
Anyway that is the point of faith, confidence, belief, trust... without questioning nor knowing anything, having no evidence whatsoever... That is real faith!
Not you nor anyone in this earth is the voice of God (with all my respect)... The existing Prophets were messengers sent to guide people in their way finding God by prophecies and revelations... And absolutely you and your words are not one of them so you can´t say what God´s opinion is regarding any topic...
Anyway that is the point of faith, confidence, belief, trust... without questioning nor knowing anything, having no evidence whatsoever... That is real faith!
Whatever Im saying is based on Bible. If you have a problem with what I said, then you have a problem with God.
And yes nobody listened to existing prophets. Their words and messages were written down so anyone who who read or heard still had a chance to repent before the Almighty and Highest.
Ah, the very angry Christian religion, now I understand. You must really not like yourself. Because, yes, I DID read the Bible, and it says "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" (levictus 19) ... you seem to think all people are useless, and their good actions are filthy rugs...
And if I remember my studies well, didn´t the Bible also state "But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also." (Mathew 5:39) Which has the same ati-vengance message as the "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" remark.
I would advise you to open your Bible again, read the message of respect and love that it holds, and then come back to talk some more.
"But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also."
One of my favourite quotes! I do personally like Jesus a lot due to this saying.
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While on the subject, may I ask why you resist me then? I have been running behind you, trying to convince and force you to marry me, but all you do is just to resist me! barba, please, I beg you... As Jesus suggests, don´t resist me anymore! What´s more, I am irresistable - you just need see this.
No, there arent many gods. Theres one true living God - YHWH.
My favourite Bible text: 1 Corinthians 13, vs 1-7
Love
1. If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Funny, all the ´real´ Christians I meet always seem to ´forget´ this text. They ´know´ what the truth is, they can tell what is right and what is wrong, they can judge over others. Surprised I left Christianity a long, long time ago?
Ah, the very angry Christian religion, now I understand. You must really not like yourself. Because, yes, I DID read the Bible, and it says "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" (levictus 19) ... you seem to think all people are useless, and their good actions are filthy rugs...
And if I remember my studies well, didn´t the Bible also state "But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also." (Mathew 5:39) Which has the same ati-vengance message as the "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" remark.
I would advise you to open your Bible again, read the message of respect and love that it holds, and then come back to talk some more.
Strange in one sentence you say its the very angry christian religion. and in the other sentence you pick opposite statements reffering to Bible verses.
As for your last comment, I open that Bible everyday. Yesterday I read Psalm 8 and Hebrews first few chapters. The day before I read Acts and then the Gospel of Luke. so on and on.
Its just an example for you how well I may know the Bible.
You speak about love. I speak about punishment.
This same God is saying that He is gonna destroy this whole earth and heaven killing everyone. At the time of deluge He killed everyone except 8 people.
Now, do you hate this God?
He will not accept anyone to Himself who will not accept his salvation. Billions of people including millions of christians are not saved.
1. If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Funny, all the ´real´ Christians I meet always seem to ´forget´ this text. They ´know´ what the truth is, they can tell what is right and what is wrong, they can judge over others. Surprised I left Christianity a long, long time ago?
Not surprised at all that you left Christianity. Christianity is a religion with hundreds of denominations in it. You should believe in God not in religion. And real Christians are not a club for adoring each other.
Be real. God is not only Love and Mercy, He is also Wrath and Justice.
If He was just God of Love and Mercy there would be no sufferring, no tears.
You see most of you avoid deep thinking, avoid difficult subjects. Run away from reality into something cosy or into your work or family. But there will come a day you will have to face the reality - your death from which you will not escape.
And the gunman from Cumbria was a guy just like you. Nobody suspected him of the evil he has committed. He was a nice guys, regularly spent his time in the local pub. Neighbours and friends loved him. He probaly also helped some charity as do millions in this country. Just a nice guy.
Lemon...I will make it simple for you... You are NOT God, so you have no idea what aybody´s innermost thoughts and ideas are. You don´t know if I´m good or bad. You don´t know what I can and can´t do. You are not allmighty, and therefor you can´t make allmighty statements. If you say you believe in the Bible, then preach the Bible. If you don´t believe in the things the Bible writes, then don´t say that what you believe in is from the Bible. You say "God is not all Love and Mercy"... Well, God is not all wrath and vengance either! He/she might be in reality, but if you believe in the Bible, then you believe in a mercifull God. If you think God is like a kid playing with ants, just bugging us and stamping on us to kill us in the end, fine. But then you can´t say that what you believe is from the Bible, because the Bible shows a God with a harsh and a soft side.
By the way, you don´t have to warn us and frighting us for death. I know I will die one day, and I´m not afraid of it. I might get run over a bus tomorrow, and the running over bit would be a downer, but the dying bit is a part of life.
1. If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Funny, all the ´real´ Christians I meet always seem to ´forget´ this text. They ´know´ what the truth is, they can tell what is right and what is wrong, they can judge over others. Surprised I left Christianity a long, long time ago?
Good post Trudy! I am with you on the "real" Christians, if there weren´t so many hypocrits about.
I particulary like 7) as this must refer to those Priests that molested those children....... and those who condem others for having different beliefs or ways of life (thinking Uganda now, and the treatment of gays!)
I feel like TC has turned into Sunday school all of a sudden. What the bible says can/is and will be debated until Jesus himself comes down and explains it to us again (and most people don´t really think that will ever happen). We could argue about it until the cows come home...but lets face it....we can all read the very same book and come up with totally different ideas about its meaning. This is why there are so many different Christian denominations.
lemon...you seem to have a very intolerant view of God. I am a believer myself, but I don´t think God is as petty as you describe...so I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment. I hope and pray that there is room in heaven for me, a Catholic, my husband, a Muslim, and all my pastafarian friends who are far more tolerant and ethical than many "christians" that I know.
I must admit I got a wee bit confused, is Lemon´s God JHWH meaning the Old Testament creator of everything or is it the Catholic God as in Holy Trinity (god, son and holy spirit)? And, does saying that those who don´t worship God are not from God, means that God created only a certain group of people, who worship him, while the others, either not worshipping any gods or worshipping the wrong ones, were created by somebody (thing?) else?
That reminds me of a joke:
An atheist dies and gets to hell. The devil is showing him around, there are naked women having sex everywhere, loads of alcohol, good music and happy people. then he spots a group of people screaming, sitting in huge pots hanging over fire. He asks the devil what that is supposed to mean, to which the devil replies: "Oh, pay no attention to them. they are Catholics. They have it as they wished"
means that God created only a certain group of people, who worship him, while the others, either not worshipping any gods or worshipping the wrong ones, were created by somebody (thing?) else?
Jehovah Witnesses do say that. Only 144.000 baptised Christians will have a heavenly resurrection. All other people will only have an earthly resurrection.
means that God created only a certain group of people, who worship him, while the others, either not worshipping any gods or worshipping the wrong ones, were created by somebody (thing?) else?
Jehovah Witnesses do say that. Only 144.000 baptised Christians will have a heavenly resurrection. All other people will only have an earthly resurrection.
Do they? I´ve never really invited them in when they knocked on my door so i don´t know the basics. I have a friend, though, who decided to leave this sect because she found too many contradictions in what they teach. The lovely thing about it was that once she left them, her whole family was told to ignore her. Now even her mother won´t talk to her.
I just remember that my Jehova´s friend couldn´t eat cake on my birthday, since birthday cake is evil. Birthday cake means you´re worshipping the birthday girl... hm, not my kind of belief Give me my cake!
Lemon...I will make it simple for you... You are NOT God, so you have no idea what aybody´s innermost thoughts and ideas are. You don´t know if I´m good or bad. You don´t know what I can and can´t do. You are not allmighty, and therefor you can´t make allmighty statements. If you say you believe in the Bible, then preach the Bible. If you don´t believe in the things the Bible writes, then don´t say that what you believe in is from the Bible. You say "God is not all Love and Mercy"... Well, God is not all wrath and vengance either! He/she might be in reality, but if you believe in the Bible, then you believe in a mercifull God. If you think God is like a kid playing with ants, just bugging us and stamping on us to kill us in the end, fine. But then you can´t say that what you believe is from the Bible, because the Bible shows a God with a harsh and a soft side.
By the way, you don´t have to warn us and frighting us for death. I know I will die one day, and I´m not afraid of it. I might get run over a bus tomorrow, and the running over bit would be a downer, but the dying bit is a part of life.
Oh, thank you for pulling me down to earth. I thought I was God. Barba, why are you so unrealistic, untrue, and artificial? You behave like a teenager. You explain things to me that I´ve known for years. I´ve studied Bible in many ways. I have it even in Greek (konkordancja) to compare with KJV and Tysiaclatka in Polish. My husband completed two years of Biblical seminary. We both can read and write Greek. Bible is a daily bread to me. I wonder where do get your arrogance.
If you want to know the truth. Your payment is death. My payment is death. If you dont believe me, open the Bible and read it. Read the whole New Testament. You will be shocked that you are heading straight to hell together with other billions of people. Who said so? Bible said so.
God is holy and is not even a bit tolerant.If God was all loving and tolerant would He send His one and beloved Son to death on a cross? If God was merciful would there be hell and punishment? Read the whole Old Testament and tell me then if you still see God in pink tinted glasses?
I warn you. I said what I said. It is your business. You can ignore me and continue your wonderful life.You are definitely a better person than me.
I must admit I got a wee bit confused, is Lemon´s God JHWH meaning the Old Testament creator of everything or is it the Catholic God as in Holy Trinity (god, son and holy spirit)? And, does saying that those who don´t worship God are not from God, means that God created only a certain group of people, who worship him, while the others, either not worshipping any gods or worshipping the wrong ones, were created by somebody (thing?) else?
Theres no such a thing like a catholic god.
God created everyone and everything except evil. When I say those who dont worship God arent from God it means, they dont belong to the community of God. They will be rejected.
So everyone who is not saved by Jesus doesnt belong to God. He/she will be cut off and thrown into the fire as a useless vine or olive tree.
Hmm... strange and interesting! Sorry, but the question arises immediately: Did God forget to create ´evil´ or did he simply leave it to humans to create? Maybe he simply thought that creating ´evil´ cannot be his business but human´s? Or maybe he got too tired by creating almost everything and when it came to creating ´evil´, he said: ´Evil, eh? I don´t care!´
And what was the sin of ´evil´, in order not to be created by God?
means that God created only a certain group of people, who worship him, while the others, either not worshipping any gods or worshipping the wrong ones, were created by somebody (thing?) else?
Jehovah Witnesses do say that. Only 144.000 baptised Christians will have a heavenly resurrection. All other people will only have an earthly resurrection.
Incorrect. It is about 12 Jewish tribes not christians. 12000 from each tribe to be left on earth to reign together with Jesus.
Theres nothing like heavenly or earthly resurrection.
I just remember that my Jehova´s friend couldn´t eat cake on my birthday, since birthday cake is evil. Birthday cake means you´re worshipping the birthday girl... hm, not my kind of belief Give me my cake!
They dont celebrate any of those events that is celebrated in the world.
I agree with them in this regard. Because, the origins of all holidays are the pagan.
Birthdays are pagan. Jews never celebrated them. They did celebrate commemorations (some of events or the dates of death).
Christmas is pagan. We all know that. It was accustomed into christianity.
Easter is pagan as well. It should be Pasha, kept as pasHa (without those stupid eggs and bunnies).
Hmm... strange and interesting! Sorry, but the question arises immediately: Did God forget to create ´evil´ or did he simply leave it to humans to create? Maybe he simply thought that creating ´evil´ cannot be his business but human´s? Or maybe he got too tired by creating almost everything and when it came to creating ´evil´, he said: ´Evil, eh? I don´t care!´
And what was the sin of ´evil´, in order not to be created by God?
Well, my answer is simple. Evil was not created. Evil emerges automatically when or where theres no God. The lack or absence of God equals to evil.
When the angel said to himself I dont need God, I am God to myself, he automatically turned into evil. This is how evil came into existence.
Humans when they wanted to become like God they automatically turned into evil.
Its like with darkness and light. Darkeness doesnt exist. Darkness is the lack of light.
Evil emerges automatically when or where theres no God. The lack or absence of God equals to evil.
Another question arises: Why did and still does and probably will God let ´evil´ automatically emerge (no matter from what, how, when and in which forms)?
Another question arises: Why did and still does and probably will God let ´evil´ automatically emerge (no matter from what, how, when and in which forms)?
Now this is called freedom. You are free to choose any of the options. Theres no middle. It is only black and white. (if you think of other colors, you deluded).
He created all good and free. Even in your life He gives you freedom. You can choose Him or reject Him.
He didnt create bio-robots or zombies. He created humans with full rights to choose - free will.
Oh, thank you for pulling me down to earth. I thought I was God. Barba, why are you so unrealistic, untrue, and artificial? You behave like a teenager. You explain things to me that I´ve known for years. I´ve studied Bible in many ways. I have it even in Greek (konkordancja) to compare with KJV and Tysiaclatka in Polish. My husband completed two years of Biblical seminary. We both can read and write Greek. Bible is a daily bread to me. I wonder where do get your arrogance.
If you want to know the truth. Your payment is death. My payment is death. If you dont believe me, open the Bible and read it. Read the whole New Testament. You will be shocked that you are heading straight to hell together with other billions of people. Who said so? Bible said so.
God is holy and is not even a bit tolerant.If God was all loving and tolerant would He send His one and beloved Son to death on a cross? If God was merciful would there be hell and punishment? Read the whole Old Testament and tell me then if you still see God in pink tinted glasses?
I warn you. I said what I said. It is your business. You can ignore me and continue your wonderful life.You are definitely a better person than me.
Being optimistic about the meaning of life doesn´t make me a teenager. It just makes me a positive person, who doesn´t think life is all about being a grouch.
Being merciful is not ruled out by having punishment. They CAN go together, you know. Punish those who show no remorse, be merciful to those who regret their bad actions and seek forgiveness.
And what exactly are you warning me for? For death? Since when is death a bad thing. You can´t warn me for hell, since you don´t know anything about me, and as we both agree, you are not God. And according to the Christian believes, only God can judge, not you.
Being optimistic about the meaning of life doesn´t make me a teenager. It just makes me a positive person, who doesn´t think life is all about being a grouch.
Being merciful is not ruled out by having punishment. They CAN go together, you know. Punish those who show no remorse, be merciful to those who regret their bad actions and seek forgiveness.
And what exactly are you warning me for? For death? Since when is death a bad thing. You can´t warn me for hell, since you don´t know anything about me, and as we both agree, you are not God. And according to the Christian believes, only God can judge, not you.
Barba, when you say that lemon is not God, makes you a teenager.
Since when death is good?
I warn everyone. I warn you because you are definitely heading to hell despite your positive attitude to everything. Im telling you God is not a daddy or a fella. He is holy and just. He will send my family and friends to hell if they dont repent and start living with God. Do I like it? No. Truth doesnt have to be something you like or enjoy.
You cant make God fit your box of ideas. He is sovereign.
He flooded the earth together with men, women and children. He burnt Sodoma and Gomorah completely together with men, women and children - where do you see mercy? He led Jews in desert for 40 years - He was not merciful to them. He didnt let Moses enter the promised land, because of the punishment.
And you know nothing about so called christian beliefs, nothing.
1) lemon IS not God... should I say that lemon is God to make myself look like an adult?
2) Death is good if you go to heaven.
3) Only God can judge. What exactly do you know about my life, that you are so sure I´m going to hell? You seem to be very keen condemming people you don´t even know. You are so sure I don´t know anything about the bible, well... looky here:
"The Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, "The Lord! The Lord, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness and truth…" (Exodus 34:6) "Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is also merciful." (Luke 6:36)
"For the LORD your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your forefathers, which he confirmed to them by oath."(Deuteronomy 4:31)
Hm, interesting. Does this say the Father (aka GOD) is merciful? It´s pretty literal. Are you saying there are lies in the Bible, lemon?
"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy" (Matthew 5:7)
"For the man who has had no mercy will be judged without mercy, but mercy takes pride in overcoming judging." (James 2:13)
1) lemon IS not God... should I say that lemon is God to make myself look like an adult?
2) Death is good if you go to heaven.
3) Only God can judge. What exactly do you know about my life, that you are so sure I´m going to hell? You seem to be very keen condemming people you don´t even know. You are so sure I don´t know anything about the bible, well... looky here:
"The Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, "The Lord! The Lord, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness and truth…" (Exodus 34:6) "Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is also merciful." (Luke 6:36)
"For the LORD your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your forefathers, which he confirmed to them by oath."(Deuteronomy 4:31)
Hm, interesting. Does this say the Father (aka GOD) is merciful? It´s pretty literal. Are you saying there are lies in the Bible, lemon?
"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy" (Matthew 5:7)
"For the man who has had no mercy will be judged without mercy, but mercy takes pride in overcoming judging." (James 2:13)
Wow... If I were you lemon, I would be worried!
2) Death was never good. Death is the end, it is sadness. If death is good then why dont we kill each other send us to heaven? If death is good then kill yourself now and enjoy heaven straight away. To those who completely believed and put their trust in God death is a way from one life to another which must come by the will of God not ours.
3) I dont condemn you and I dont judge you, God does. and He will send you to hell, be sure of it, not out of love but out of hate of your sins. I can say to you: Barba, God is kind and love, therefore you deserve heaven. This will make you feel better. But will that be true?
Here Mathew 7:22
21 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?" 23 And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."
Lets take the very beginning of Bible, namely Genesis. God punishes Adam and Eve straight away. He still takes care of them, but makes them to bear the consequences of their disobedience. So, where do you see tolerance, love and mercy in this matter?
The Bible is full of promises of hell and punishment for those who disobey God. And its also full of promises for blessings and heaven who choose to live with God.
There will be false teachers so called wolves in the skin of sheep. They will even pretend angels of light. Those false teachers teach that the same thing you preach, Barba, Love, Mercy, Tolerance and Peace.
In the Book of Revelation (the last book of bible) it says that Jesus will come fully armed with a sword in His mouth to destroy lawless world.
The problem with you, Barba (and others who claim to be clever than God Himself) is that you never read Bible. None of you sat and read the whole book of 66 books. And yet come, and give judgments or disbeliefs or even quotes pulled out of the context.
Its not me who is in trouble, Barba, its you. Because you ignore God by pleasing yourself with verses cut of its context. You are like this pharisee in this parable.
9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: ´God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.´
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ´God, have mercy on me, a sinner.´
14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Way to go to ignore the parts of the bible that talk of mercy, and just focus on the wrath. Lemon, you must be very special that you know exactly what God thinks of me. I never knew there was a human-being who held the power to know what God is thinking.
Way to go to ignore the parts of the bible that talk of mercy, and just focus on the wrath. Lemon, you must be very special that you know exactly what God thinks of me. I never knew there was a human-being who held the power to know what God is thinking.
Whatever I say is my opinion only (based on my knowledge of Bible). Everyone who is not born again and didnt repent will go to hell automatically, because every thought, word and deed of yours will speak against you at the day of Judgement.
I never claimed that God is not mericful. He is all kindness and goodness along wrath and justice. I give you a whole picture, two sides of a coin. While you prefer only one side and ignore the other side.
Yes, I know what God is thinking (despite your sarcasm and refusal to understand my posts but pick on my personality), because its written in the Bible that theres no a single good person in this world who would deserve heaven. That is why all humans are going to hell if they dont reconcile with God.
If I know something then I know and I am confident of my knowledge unlike you, Barba, that is why I discuss. When I dont know I withdraw and admit I am no expert on it.
In most of my posts in the past I gave you unbeatable arguments in whatever discussions we had. Your arguments are cheap and dont hold a thing, but you still insist that you know something. Where do you get this arrogant confidence?
Different topic... is anybody else feeling guilty about the World Cup Soccer thing? Up to this event, I was surprised to see they chose South Africa for this. And I was worried for the human rights in that area. A high increase of prostitution, human trade, and most shockingly child prostitution can be seen in the country, due to the event. So, before the World Cup hype was in full swing, I though about not watching it. But like always, I get swepped away! It´s the same as with the Chinese Olympics. Before I was all about the human rights and worried, but when it all started I was back behind my tv cheering for my countrymen and countrywomen. I was just wondering if anybody else is feeling like a total hypocrite
Be real. God is not only Love and Mercy, He is also Wrath and Justice.
If He was just God of Love and Mercy there would be no sufferring, no tears.
Right ! There would be no hell, no divine justice, no need to have faith etc as well in that case and also "unconditional love" & "God is love" concepts totally fail, at least that is what i understood...
Interesting and i agree. God did not create evil, in our disobedience we create evil. But again all is from God, by free will which is given by God we use our ego, pride and selfishness to create evil.
Interesting and i agree. God did not create evil, in our disobedience we create evil. But again all is from God, by free will which is given by God we use our ego, pride and selfishness to create evil.
All from God except for evil. God is holy therefore evil cannot come from Him. Evil is an automatic appearance in the lack of God. When you reject God you belong to Evil.
... Well, I´m going to go a throw my laptop in the trash, since I probably see this as God as well. I think I´ll just sit in a dark room, not look at anything that gives me joy. Because if something gives me joy, it must be because it´s becoming my new God. And we all know that ain´t good. Loving my family, enjoying the sun on my face, everything is just selfish and worshipping semi-Gods. In the dark room I will spend my days waiting for my horrible death. I think I will also stop eating, since food also gives me joy and I probably see a hamburger as God as well, and his wrath will fall upon me for worshipping burgers. Even though I will spend my days just praying and dying, I´m sure I will end up in hell anyway, since lemon said so, so... goodbye my dear fellow forummers. See you there!!!
... Well, I´m going to go a throw my laptop in the trash, since I probably see this as God as well. I think I´ll just sit in a dark room, not look at anything that gives me joy. Because if something gives me joy, it must be because it´s becoming my new God. And we all know that ain´t good. Loving my family, enjoying the sun on my face, everything is just selfish and worshipping semi-Gods. In the dark room I will spend my days waiting for my horrible death. I think I will also stop eating, since food also gives me joy and I probably see a hamburger as God as well, and his wrath will fall upon me for worshipping burgers. Even though I will spend my days just praying and dying, I´m sure I will end up in hell anyway, since lemon said so, so... goodbye my dear fellow forummers. See you there!!!
Don´t do it! Though we walk in the valley of the shadow of cyberspace, we should fear no thread!
... Well, I´m going to go a throw my laptop in the trash, since I probably see this as God as well. I think I´ll just sit in a dark room, not look at anything that gives me joy. Because if something gives me joy, it must be because it´s becoming my new God. And we all know that ain´t good. Loving my family, enjoying the sun on my face, everything is just selfish and worshipping semi-Gods. In the dark room I will spend my days waiting for my horrible death. I think I will also stop eating, since food also gives me joy and I probably see a hamburger as God as well, and his wrath will fall upon me for worshipping burgers. Even though I will spend my days just praying and dying, I´m sure I will end up in hell anyway, since lemon said so, so... goodbye my dear fellow forummers. See you there!!!
If you really believe in true Biblical God, not imagined Santa, then you should pray and ask what is the purpose of your life. If He says, enjoy, do whatever you want to, then why not? Take it easy. There was no sin. Sin is a myth so is wrath and punishment. Jesus didnt suffer and die on a cross, its a myth too. Or maybe He suffered on the cross so that you can enjoy your burgers and have a nice sun tan, oh, yes, definitely.
As for loving family Jesus recommends to leave your family, to deny yourself and carry your cross. But of course you dont know of such verses.
Enjoying life is not a sin. Actually not enjoying life is a sin. Google acedia, and you´ll know what I mean.
And if your mother or father need your help, Jesus didn´t say you should leave them. You should honour your parents (the Bible says so) and so leaving your family is not always the best thing. If my mom is sick, I don´t think God would say it was a sin for me to stay at home and take care of her.
Ah, the very angry Christian religion, now I understand. You must really not like yourself. Because, yes, I DID read the Bible, and it says "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" (levictus 19) ... you seem to think all people are useless, and their good actions are filthy rugs...
And if I remember my studies well, didn´t the Bible also state "But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also." (Mathew 5:39) Which has the same ati-vengance message as the "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" remark.
I would advise you to open your Bible again, read the message of respect and love that it holds, and then come back to talk some more.
OOff i did get tired of reading what it sounds to me as a "fanatic lemonade"...
By the way who said being a teenager is a bad thing?? It seems doing (or reading) the same text too much it does make you loose it...
kudos for barba, i love your simple and concise explanations! but i think is worthless to try to explain something to a person who is "blocked" and why not saying it brainwashed... because noone has the absolute truth about anything, but sadly some lem..uhmm people think they do...
OOff i did get tired of reading what it sounds to me as a "fanatic lemonade"...
By the way who said being a teenager is a bad thing?? It seems doing (or reading) the same text too much it does make you loose it...
kudos for barba, i love your simple and concise explanations! but i think is worthless to try to explain something to a person who is "blocked" and why not saying it brainwashed... because noone has the absolute truth about anything, but sadly some lem..uhmm people think they do...
As if I pulled your ears and made you read my fanatic stuff
BTW, who said that its good to act like a teenager being very adult? Is it appropriate? If you are around your 30 and act like a teenager what does it witness of you? Are you growing up or growing down? So much for your wisdom, ha?
Have you ever read Bible too much or at all?
Of course kudos to Barbie, to her teenager childish simpletons.
I think its worthless to try to explain to people of blockhead generation, the generation of consumers, shallow lifestyle, products of EU propaganda, self loving and self enjoying hedonists. I mean , yes, what are we talking about? You are right!
Kemale, you just joined this discussion and you think I am blocked, because I disagree with you? If I am blocked so is God. Because He is very intolerant.
Who said that no one has the absolute truth? What is absolute truth? The absolute truth is that God hates your lifestyle, your hedonistic self centred lifestyle. Bible says so.
Yes, in case you want to know, I do know way more on Bible than all of you taken together. Does it sound as a pride. Fine. But this is the fact.
The absolute truth is that God hates your lifestyle, your hedonistic self centred lifestyle. Bible says so.
pulled my ears?? hahahahahahaha i will just tell you this: I grew up in multi religion family, my dad´s family is catholic, my mom´s family is christian, my grandpa and my uncle are ministers, i lived for 5 years in a jewish neighborhood and now i live in turkey and married to a muslim...
At least i know every religion up close, and i dont live my life preaching for what is best or what is worse, i do let people think and believe what they want, because that right was given by God to every human... and you show how immature you are by telling to people what to believ or convincing them of what you say is the reality... know other religions first or know why people chooses not follow any book (written by HUMANS not by any God) so who is the "teenager" now???
and by blocked i mean someone who is not open to listen to other people´s thoughts and that to me and i know to many other people just prooves how wrong you are... and to be honest with you you just sound like a jealousspoiled little girl wanting people to do as you say.... so next time "talk to the hand" cause debating with you is just a waste of time... probably the day you notice how sharing ideas and listening to other´s thought enriches the mind, probably you will become a happier person, and learn how to enjoy life more...
ah and God hates my lifestyle??? you even dare to talk as if you know me!! how disrespectful and on top of that "blocked".... i just feel pity for you!
Edited (6/11/2010) by KemAle Edited (6/11/2010) by KemAle
My thought this morning: We have a PLENTY of Christian themed threads now. I HOPE we don´t need to carry this argument to every thread on the forum. (Nor do we need to create more.)
BTW...I think we have more than enough threads about Kurds V. Turks as well.
your reaction was as if I pulled your ears and made you read my posts. Did I?
i will just tell you this: I grew up in multi religion family, my dad´s family is catholic, my mom´s family is christian, my grandpa and my uncle are ministers, i lived for 5 years in a jewish neighborhood and now i live in turkey and married to a muslim...
You are an exact copy of Barba
Let me point out some errors in your post. You say your dads side is catholic and your moms side is christian. Are you saying that catholics are not christian?
Your grandpa was ministers, he was multiple ministers? Ministers of what if I may ask?
You lived in a Jewish neighborhood. And? Does this make you an expert on Judaism? (My friend never lived in Jewish neighbourhood, but he knows a lot of things on Judaism and history of Jews, I sometimes discuss some issues with him).
You married a muslim? What does it say to me? Does it mean that you know Islam better than me? Fine. Let things be your way.
At least i know every religion up close,
My dear teenager, you may know so many religions (but so does my little girl), but I say to you that you dont know any of one of them to its core. Your knowledge is as shallow as your post above.
and i dont live my life preaching for what is best or what is worse, i do let people think and believe what they want, because that right was given by God to every human...
If you were not this ignorant you would know by now that every single prophet from God preached on Gods wrath and punishment. Starting from Moses ending with Malachi in the Old Testament. Are they crazy? Or are you smarter than them?
and you show how immature
so far you teenagers claim to know all religions and everything. Go and enjoy your suntan.
you are by telling to people what to believ or convincing them of what you say is the reality... know other religions first or know why people chooses not follow any book (written by HUMANS not by any God) so who is the "teenager" now???
I cant convince anyone. I wasnt given such power. But I am entitled to share my opinion. And my opinion comes from the Bible not from my family, not from my life in the Jewish neighbourhood, neither that my papa was multiple ministers.
FYI The Bible was written by prophets inspired by God. No one claimed that it was fallen from sky.
and by blocked i mean someone who is not open to listen to other people´s thoughts and that to me and i know to many other people just prooves how wrong you are...
In this matter you are correct. I prefer to listen to Bible. Why would I want to listen to teenagers? Since when others possess better wisdom than the one in Bible?
and to be honest with you you just sound like a jealousspoiled little girl wanting people to do as you say....
Jealous of what? spoiled by what? What do you have that I can be jealous of? A nice suntan or a party plan?
I dont say people what to do. Bible says. You are not in conflict with me, you are in conflict with Bible (the book of course you never opened).
so next time "talk to the hand" cause debating with you is just a waste of time...
Yes, I think I better talk indeed to my hand My hand at least doesnt babble.
probably the day you notice how sharing ideas and listening to other´s thought enriches the mind, probably you will become a happier person, and learn how to enjoy life more...
I didnt live in a desert I listened to many people. But its not only people who shape my mind but also God. And I believe and trust He will give me the best shape than the wisdoms of Barbie girls.
ah and God hates my lifestyle??? you even dare to talk as if you know me!! how disrespectful and on top of that "blocked".... i just feel pity for you!
Are you a twin of Barba or what? Yes, Bible says everyone fell short of God´s glory. Everyone is a sinner and everyone is a God hater including you, your mama and papa, ministers, jews and muslims.
If you are driving at me, just wanted to let you know that I havent created one.
Quoting Elisabeth
My thought this morning: We have a PLENTY of Christian themed threads now. I HOPE we don´t need to carry this argument to every thread on the forum. (Nor do we need to create more.)
BTW...I think we have more than enough threads about Kurds V. Turks as well.
If you are driving at me, just wanted to let you know that I havent created one.
It is driving at anyone who thinks we need to have a bible lesson on every thread.
I don´t mind that you are doing your thing on your "nice stories" thread but I am not interested in more Bible training (I get that from my Priest). I said what I have to say about it and was happily avoiding the subject.
Then it seems we have other members who want to poke fun and start other Christian threads and NOW our regular threads are not safe! If we are going to change the theme of this site to "Fire and Brimstone and other Christian Debates" then I don´t even want to come here anymore.
It is driving at anyone who thinks we need to have a bible lesson on every thread.
I don´t mind that you are doing your thing on your "nice stories" thread but I am not interested in more Bible training (I get that from my Priest). I said what I have to say about it and was happily avoiding the subject.
Then it seems we have other members who want to poke fun and start other Christian threads and NOW our regular threads are not safe! If we are going to change the theme of this site to "Fire and Brimstone and other Christian Debates" then I don´t even want to come here anymore.
I knew this would end up the way you see. It is also sad to hear this from you.
Juanes and Shakira sang and they are both Colombians!! from my Country!!!
Sadly our team is not participating but at least we had singers there entertaining the audience
I missed the opening because I was just moving furniture, and my tv-table was stuck in traffic coming to my house lol, I put the tv up again and tried to install everything as fast as possible, but it was too slow Well, at least I was on time for the matches!
Watched Argentina-Nigiria today... noticed that Maradona was kissing all the players and hitting their behinds... hm...sexual harassment lawsuit anybody?
I just learnt that reading books put people in a perpetual vicious circle. More reading makes your brains isolated. If you insist on reading further you become an individual who is unable to feel, think or desire..
I should find the thread : ´Quote of the day´ and add it there
well, your wish to help people about the cities of Turkey does not change the fact that it is boring and does not mean it is really helpful..
If you only read the names it´s boring. If you google every name, look at pictures and look at the map it´s not boring. It can give you ideas about where to go in Turkey next. So if you don´t put any effort in, yes it´s boring. If you take the thread as a starting point to find new places in Turkey, it can be very interesting.
If you only read the names it´s boring. If you google every name, look at pictures and look at the map it´s not boring. It can give you ideas about where to go in Turkey next. So if you don´t put any effort in, yes it´s boring. If you take the thread as a starting point to find new places in Turkey, it can be very interesting.
Barba, accept it please.. It is a ´dull´ thread..
here we go..list of the cities and then you can find its towns and villages when you click on the links.
...that would do! - although if it´s British under-16´s you are worried about being corrupted by his language you´re probably only talking about the ones not yet old enough to read!
I think jealousy on a man is tolerable if the reason causing it is a woman
And if that man is the woman´s belligerent husband, it can lead to unspeakable acts and that really does down grade the man. . .down to that 1% - 4% mentioned in some other thread recently.
Jealousy is an emotion based on fear, insecurity, and anxiety. Being angry at a cheating wife is not jealousy. That is well-founded ager. Being angry at a wife who didn´t cheat, but you think she might be cheating is jealousy. It is an irrational emotion, primal. I never heard that anything good came from jealousy.
Jealousy is an emotion based on fear, insecurity, and anxiety. Being angry at a cheating wife is not jealousy. That is well-founded ager. Being angry at a wife who didn´t cheat, but you think she might be cheating is jealousy. It is an irrational emotion, primal. I never heard that anything good came from jealousy.
....and it was a very popular song in the days before most members of TC were born!!!
Being angry at a wife who didn´t cheat, but you think she might be cheating is jealousy. It is an irrational emotion, primal. I never heard that anything good came from jealousy.
That´s exactly what I meant ! You had better be careful, "you know Juan" might be lurking.
I wonder why people keep sharing their secrets with me, even if I REALLLLY don´t want to know what they are... Does it say "dear Abby" on my forehead? And I wonder if anybody else has this problem
I wonder why people keep sharing their secrets with me, even if I REALLLLY don´t want to know what they are... Does it say "dear Abby" on my forehead? And I wonder if anybody else has this problem
I wish you sent a PM rather than making this public?
Now, I feel I am spoilt.. (may be I needed this after all those barrage of ´you are not a turk; must be armenian; no no you are a kurd; you should have left to historians; you can not be a Turk; you are actually Soros or a liberal´ crap)
Now, I feel I am spoilt.. (may be I needed this after all those barrage of ´you are not a turk; must be armenian; no no you are a kurd; you should have left to historians; you can not be a Turk; you are actually Soros or a liberal´ crap)
Hm, I know my beef doesn´t come from a tree But I do try to find out where and under which rules the meat that I eat is slaughtered. I don´t like people who go "ieuwwww, that´s so sad!" when they see a chicken´s head being chopped off, and then go to the next KFC to buy a bucket full of wings.
Hm, I know my beef doesn´t come from a tree But I do try to find out where and under which rules the meat that I eat is slaughtered. I don´t like people who go "ieuwwww, that´s so sad!" when they see a chicken´s head being chopped off, and then go to the next KFC to buy a bucket full of wings.
Well I am a quite blood resistant person myself, specially after watching all those sacrifices in construction sites and going through kurban festivals. But this one was utterly disgusting and made my stomach upset..
And you all are quite lucky to be honest, because I am a nice person, I decided NOT to give the link..
I have been having my doubts about halal meat lately... In Holland it´s pretty normal to sedate an animal in some way before killing it. With halal meat, this is not allowed. Now I´m doubting if halal meat is "meaner" than non-halal, previously sedated meat. I´m confused I´m a meat junky, but I do want to be a responsible consumer.
Why do I have this feeling that some individuals are waiting for me to to post and then they post into same thread?
How creative!!!
yeah zamazingo, your situation is better than mine some ppl dont like my posts, but cant stop themselves to reply))) I couldnt teach them how they will ignore my posts this must be secret love but this love is getting deeper everytime I hope this love wont kill them inside
I fed up being DJ in TC All the old European girls of TC which found love in Turkey , love me young and wild
How we arrive at death´s door is important. What we bring with is important. Do we leave the world a better place for our existence?
Who knows where we end up - all I know is I expect to be dust scattered in some place that I consider to be a place I love (yet to be decided so I better not die soon)
You appreciate UK when you come back from Poland You enjoy nice and organised transport connections, trains running smoothly, abundance of information, polite English (as well as non-English), clean toilets and a nice service.
You appreciate UK when you come back from Poland You enjoy nice and organised transport connections, trains running smoothly, abundance of information, polite English (as well as non-English), clean toilets and a nice service.
Why do I need to deal with cheap, shallow, skin-deep people all the time?
Phew!!!
It is really boring and time consuming.. Still dont understand what gives people the idea that this time they can get square.. How stupid is that!!
The rule is very simple: A person swears once, I will ignore. The same person gets vulgar, I will ignore again. But in the end, I will turn around and slap that person and then we have to face for all those cryings, whining again..
Why do I need to deal with cheap, shallow, skin-deep people all the time?
Phew!!!
It is really boring and time consuming.. Still dont understand what gives people the idea that this time they can get square.. How stupid is that!!
The rule is very simple: A person swears once, I will ignore. The same person gets vulgar, I will ignore again. But in the end, I will turn around and slap that person and then we have to face for all those cryings, whining again..
Russia is awaiting another food crisis this or next year. They lost millions of tons of crops this year. It may affect others as well, I mean globally, since we are all a big global village.
And of course I still wonder about the gold are being collected from people at a very cheap price. It started last year. Why?
Russia is awaiting another food crisis this or next year. They lost millions of tons of crops this year. It may affect others as well, I mean globally, since we are all a big global village.
And of course I still wonder about the gold are being collected from people at a very cheap price. It started last year. Why?
Pay attention to whats going on.
What gold is collected at a very cheap price? Did I miss something
I am telling you, people, theres something going on behind the scene. What for suddenly jewlerry companies are interested in gold?
They do, but the price you get for gold is higher than ever. More people actually sell their gold, but not for low prices. The gold prices have increased dramatically over the last few years.
They do, but the price you get for gold is higher than ever. More people actually sell their gold, but not for low prices. The gold prices have increased dramatically over the last few years.
It is cheap. There were a few articles in media exposing the gold scam mainly about Cashmygold etc. These folks were offering 2x lower price in comparison to those on high street. Of course the price has may gone up now thanks to sudden interest in it. Someone is buying it. I am asking why? Since last year companies that are buying gold have doubled. Almost every week theres an envelop pushed into my door hole with an offer to buy my jewlery (which I dont have at all).
Isnt it all strange? The gold now has been collected from people.
It is cheap. There were a few articles in media exposing the gold scam mainly about Cashmygold etc. These folks were offering 2x lower price in comparison to those on high street. Of course the price has may gone up now thanks to sudden interest in it. Someone is buying it. I am asking why? Since last year companies that are buying gold have doubled. Almost every week theres an envelop pushed into my door hole with an offer to buy my jewlery (which I dont have at all).
Isnt it all strange? The gold now has been collected from people.
Oh, those kind of companies. Yeah, I don´t understand people who use those kind of companies. In Holland we have this add on tv, where the guy says "order this envelop and send you gold to us".... WTF, who does that? Maybe I should make an add too... "Hey people, send your gold to my house and I´ll send you some money back"... 1 euro is money too I think those companies have popped up recently, since they saw that gold was rising in price. The gold price has been rising dramatically since 5 years ago, so them popping up two years ago means they linked this trend in prices, into the stupidity (or economic need) of people.
A recent investigation has revealed that companies that offer to buy unwanted gold are paying shockingly low prices. Consumers should avoid these gold buyers because they can get a much higher price for their gold elsewhere.
Which? compared four TV gold buyers with three pawnbrokers and three independent jewellers by offering to sell three brand new pieces of gold jewellery, in an attempt to find out which ones would offer the highest prices for identical pieces of gold. The lowest quotes were consistently given by the gold buyers that advertised their services on television.
The company that offered the lowest of all prices was CashMyGold. For the three pieces of jewellery that were purchased new for £729, CashMyGold offered only £38.57. The worst was an offer of less than £19 for 9ct gold bangle that had been purchased for £215. For the same piece, a jeweller offered £54.
The average amount offered by the TV gold buyers was about 6% of the gold’s retail price, compared to approximately 25% which was offered by the high street retailers – a considerable difference, especially for higher priced pieces.
Money4Gold claimed that a 9ct gold necklace that had been bought new for £399 was not real gold, and held the piece, demanding that the researcher pay £10.95 to have it returned.
I don´t think the rising gold price is a scam, I just think the companies are a scam. But consumers have to use their brains too. Why would you trust a company you can´t even visit, who don´t post the prices they pay on their websites? That gold prices in general rise now is a logical thing. The price of each increases when the demand increases. With the whole financial crisis, people are not trusting their paper money, their stocks, etc. anymore. Gold seems to be a better investment, so they buy gold... as more people want to buy gold, the price increases.
I don´t think the rising gold price is a scam, I just think the companies are a scam. But consumers have to use their brains too. Why would you trust a company you can´t even visit, who don´t post the prices they pay on their websites? That gold prices in general rise now is a logical thing. The price of each increases when the demand increases. With the whole financial crisis, people are not trusting their paper money, their stocks, etc. anymore. Gold seems to be a better investment, so they buy gold... as more people want to buy gold, the price increases.
I simply pass. You see nothing, as usually. Thank you for the lesson though.
Gold is a stable good. Its price shouldnt rise out of blue. Somebody caused the panic.
Lemon you are confusing the rise in price of gold with the scam gold buying companies. There are genuine reasons for the increase in gold prices, they are many and varied.
China is buying gold in large amounts to increase its gold reserve.
In times of economic downturn, gold is the "safe" investment. People buy gold because it feels tangible and secure, even though it has a poor return.
The electronics industry uses gold in circuit boards.
More and more "ordinary" people are now involved in investment because of the internet. Investing used to be an elitist exercise carried out via stock brokers. Now anyone can easily buy shares on the internet and gold "feels" safer than, say, pork bellies, to the amateur investor.
However, if you want to continue with your conspiracy theory, please feel free to do so
Translation requests are the same mix of "para" and "seviyorum".
why all translation about love are linking by money..I wonder; I cant imagine a man saying "seni seviyorum" and after sendind a money request; how that man could be..and how can I woman send money for "seni seviyorum" phrase...stupid
I don´t think the rising gold price is a scam, I just think the companies are a scam. But consumers have to use their brains too. Why would you trust a company you can´t even visit, who don´t post the prices they pay on their websites? That gold prices in general rise now is a logical thing. The price of each increases when the demand increases. With the whole financial crisis, people are not trusting their paper money, their stocks, etc. anymore. Gold seems to be a better investment, so they buy gold... as more people want to buy gold, the price increases.
Very true! There is a CashforGold "tent" errected in our High Street with the chavs all lined up waiting to get loads of cash for their "gold" but oh what a surprise their gold is practically worthless. There is a bit of a difference between the 9 ct gold in a chain and the solid gold bullion stored in a Swiss bank vault!!
Very true! There is a CashforGold "tent" errected in our High Street with the chavs all lined up waiting to get loads of cash for their "gold" but oh what a surprise their gold is practically worthless. There is a bit of a difference between the 9 ct gold in a chain and the solid gold bullion stored in a Swiss bank vault!!
It should make no difference, whether you are selling a 9ct chain or a gold bar. The price of gold is the same - per gram (unless it is antique jewellery in which case it might be worth more as an antique item than merely its weight).
Before selling any gold jewellery you should check out the current market price of gold per gram (they are fixed twice a day) and NEVER sell to places like CashforGold!!!
I wonder why "Turkmen" has suddenly been included in the TC lingo? I have been on Turkish Class for 5 years and have not heard it mentioned before. Alpha is using it in every sentence, in case we didn´t see it in the previous one, like a dog with a bone, he refuses to let go of it ...
I wonder why "Turkmen" has suddenly been included in the TC lingo? I have been on Turkish Class for 5 years and have not heard it mentioned before. Alpha is using it in every sentence, in case we didn´t see it in the previous one, like a dog with a bone, he refuses to let go of it ...
might be a fad, or Alphie wants to infuriate Vineyards, who´s allergic to words like Turky, Turkia etc
I wonder why "Turkmen" has suddenly been included in the TC lingo? I have been on Turkish Class for 5 years and have not heard it mentioned before. Alpha is using it in every sentence, in case we didn´t see it in the previous one, like a dog with a bone, he refuses to let go of it ...
Alpha has a mind of his own, but most probably no reason at all.. just the way stars have aligned this morning and that´s how they inspired him to praise "Turkishness".
Nowadays it is mostly used for north iraqian Turkmens but in fact the Turks who came to Anatolia around 11 century were all Turkmens...
Quoting TheAenigma
I wonder why "Turkmen" has suddenly been included in the TC lingo? I have been on Turkish Class for 5 years and have not heard it mentioned before. Alpha is using it in every sentence, in case we didn´t see it in the previous one, like a dog with a bone, he refuses to let go of it ...
Tatars are connected to north Turks aka Kipchaks and Türkmens are connected to south Turks aka Oghuzs. Kipchaks were consisting of lots of nomadic tribes distributed on a big geography and more crowded than Oghuzs. they fought with Oghuzs, Russians and Mongols. Kipchaks had leaded some of the Oghuz tribes to migrate Balkans, Middle east and Anatolia, and Mongols had leaded some Kipchak tribes to migrate East Europe Caucasia. Crimean Tatars for instance are ethnically Kipchaks. Today Tatars also live in TR, Eskişehir is one of the famous place where lots of Tatars live in. Kipchak tribes in Europe also known as "Kumonos" by Byzantians, "Kun" by Hungarians had become christians, Codex Cumanicus was a kind of dictionary written possibly by missionaries to communicate with Kipchak people of Europe.
Quoting alameda
It can get confusing, I´ve also seen the term Tartar used quite a bit...more in the past. Marco Polo uses the term Tartar.
I never get why some people go on forums, when they don´t seem to appreciate the reading the opinions of other people. If you hate people so much, why interact with them? Go live on a farm... sheep don´t have an opinion. Or even better, go live in a cave. There is nobody to breathe your air, and you can live in peace...
Totally fed up with the continual fight (on here) between Islam and Christianity and the blame game. No wonder there are so many wars in the world - religion is the root of most of them.
Totally fed up with the continual fight (on here) between Islam and Christianity and the blame game. No wonder there are so many wars in the world - religion is the root of most of them.
Sadly, as much as I detest these "religious wars" it is a fact that if they didn´t argue about religion, it would be something else. It is man´s nature (especially MALE´s nature) to be territorial and patriotic. These little boys belong in a school playground...
Am still shocked by Pope´s Italian advisor (and good friend) describing Heathrow airport as "like entering a third world country" because of our multi-culturalism!
Hmmm...let me see, child abuse, homophobia, sexism and now.... racism. What a wonderful religion!
As far as everybody knows about the rules of tc : "If people are deleted because of a rule violation, they are given one chance to come back. If they are deleted a second time because of rule violations, then they are automatically deleted if they return, no questions asked."
We will see how this proceed..
I dont think it matters if user A is deleted for a reason.. (may be it was a mistake??) User A is deleted secod time.. (another mistake? who knows. ) .. User A gets deleted for the third time..(again a mistake? )
Well..
I think we have right to ask questions about if there is a general amnesty about the deleted users.
I dont think it really matters if user A comes back despite the fact that "A has been deleted several times because of the forum rules" .. (Of course, there will a problem of trust of the judments about the deletions but we can ignore that.. ) The question is what about user Bs, or Cs?
Is there any reason why those deleted users should not come back?
Aenigma! One would think that having been surrounded by Poles since 2004, you´d learn one of the key words (insults). Or have they spared thy little island?
Anyway, no matter what you think about Arafta, s/he doesn´t deserve to be called that!
As far as everybody knows about the rules of tc : "If people are deleted because of a rule violation, they are given one chance to come back. If they are deleted a second time because of rule violations, then they are automatically deleted if they return, no questions asked."
We will see how this proceed..
I dont think it matters if user A is deleted for a reason.. (may be it was a mistake??) User A is deleted secod time.. (another mistake? who knows. ) .. User A gets deleted for the third time..(again a mistake? )
Well..
I think we have right to ask questions about if there is a general amnesty about the deleted users.
I dont think it really matters if user A comes back despite the fact that "A has been deleted several times because of the forum rules" .. (Of course, there will a problem of trust of the judments about the deletions but we can ignore that.. ) The question is what about user Bs, or Cs?
Is there any reason why those deleted users should not come back?
We will see
What amnesty? mere speculation on your part! No repeatedly deleted users have come back as far as we are aware - like I say . If evidence should exist that a repeatedly deleted user has returned then the rules will be enforced. Hope this puts your mind at rest.
Awww....again....and so soon? You will be missed. You are like a butterfly flitting about here and there.....maybe you are going in to one of your other states?
Awww....again....and so soon? You will be missed. You are like a butterfly flitting about here and there.....maybe you are going in to one of your other states?
wow..this reminds me the biology lessons from faculty
The brunette , who works across the road, is wearing her black dress and her ´pink´ raincoat on top and her beige shoes have 4 inches matching ´pink´ heels!!! Woohoo she is a legend..
I am just wondering if I should go and buy some pink roses for her..
Some Westerns have an annoying style of lough which makes me think they are hypocrite.
many people have annoying laughs - what does a hypocritical laugh sound like? is it a giggle? a guffaw? a chortle? a cackle? a chuckle? a titter? a snicker? I think maybe you are just being hypercritical!
many people have annoying laughs - what does a hypocritical laugh sound like? is it a giggle? a guffaw? a chortle? a cackle? a chuckle? a titter? a snicker? I think maybe you are just being hypercritical!
Sweet kid Adam, why don´t you just express your stimulating ideas rather than massing with me? That would be a more mature step through introducing yourselve.
However, in order you still have some credits i will answer you. It sounds like ha ha ha, a bit slower, with a so called confidency but that smells like it includes sneaking.
I cant hear its voice but thehandsomes ha ha ha is closer to what i ment i guess
Sweet kid Adam, why don´t you just express your stimulating ideas rather than massing with me? That would be a more mature step through introducing yourselve.
However, in order you still have some credits i will answer you. It sounds like ha ha ha, a bit slower, with a so called confidency but that smells like it includes sneaking.
I cant hear its voice but thehandsomes ha ha ha is closer to what i ment i guess
massing with you??? - no idea what you mean. it was a little JOKE man - but obviously you don´t have much sense of humour. And where do you get off referring to me as ´sweet kid´ - how old do you think I am? 10?
I would really love to know what he really means too..
I did not get the part below for example..
"That would be a more mature step through introducing yourselve.
However, in order you still have some credits i will answer you. It sounds like ha ha ha, a bit slower, with a so called confidency but that smells like it includes sneaking."
I have to adimit that my English is not great. I must improve my English. However, the people in that site who focus on what his/her answerer says rather than trying to provaoke him, understands the sense of my writings. Have you ever seen that i say pricking words to the foreign users of that site who makes mistakes in Turkish language?
Coming to the lough issue. As far as I have heard, body language is % 80 of daily communucation. Who can deny that we attribute meanings to several body languages? And I shared a kind of body language that i realized in a meeting which took place on the same day with my post. If you are interested in that subject, why don´t you go make some search and introduce us stimulating infos rather than attacking my personality?
In order you choose to attack people in a childish way; in order you can accept to be the tail of a snake; in order you focus on people rather than ideas, i thought u are an adolescent.
The way you choose is not the right way. I reccomend you to to change that way when you still have time.
2. Coming to the lough issue......If you are interested in that subject, why don´t you go make some search and introduce us stimulating infos rather than attacking my personality?
3. In order you choose to attack people in a childish way; in order you can accept to be the tail of a snake; in order you focus on people rather than ideas, i thought u are an adolescent.
The way you choose is not the right way. I reccomend you to to change that way when you still have time.
1. I made no comment on your English - i didn´t get what you meant by ´massing´ but now i guess you must have mistyped ´messing´.
2. As I said before, I WAS MAKING A LITTLE JOKE, including a play on the words hypocritical/hypercritical, sorry it wasn´t stimulating information but i´m not particularly interested in analysing western laughter. Not sure how exactly it attacked your personality though.
3. Don´t base an opinion of me on one post you didn´t like please - this could be construed as attacking my personality.
Oeince, get over yourself. You firstly almost insult (not really, but getting close to it) a large group of people, and than get angry because somebody doesn´t react seriously to such a strange comment? What kind of a strange thing it is, to say most Westerners have a strange laugh... How many Westerners have you heard laughing? How many non-Westerners have you heard laughing? Have you heard a large enough sample of people laugh, to make laugh-related comments? Your strange post can only lead to a funny reaction, which you got. At least I thought it was funny, it made me laugh in my special Western way. So...like I said before... get over yourself, don´t take life so seriously, and how about laughing sometimes. In your own special Turkish way ofcourse, you don´t want to risk sounding like a hypocrite.
I am really not sorry to disturb your all "Western" egos Because someone has to keep saying the truths. You will see those truths too. Not just you three or four, everyone who thinks they can attack anyone they want.
If I called someone ´a liar´ repeatedly I would have been reported to admins straight away and at least 2/3 people would be accusing me for it, but when someone calls me a liar it is a different matter..
I´ve been here long enough to see many personal fights. I suppose it´s normal to get carried away when two contrasting views clash. However, what I find fascinating is how come every time TheHandsom posts an opinion or an article, there´s sudden hatered of him among Turkish users, most of whom, generally never insult other users.
I don´t think anyone but TheHandsom has had his origin questioned, hidden agenda insinuated and his senses insulted in a straightforward way; not ot mention being told to shut up numerous times.
Not that he always responds in a polite and calm manner. But I´m curious why his fellow-countymen get so agitated by his posts.
If I called someone ´a liar´ repeatedly I would have been reported to admins straight away and at least 2/3 people would be accusing me for it, but when someone calls me a liar it is a different matter..
Yeah yeah..
Tough Handsom... it was you who ridiculed me about the weak moderation.
I´ve been here long enough to see many personal fights. I suppose it´s normal to get carried away when two contrasting views clash. However, what I find fascinating is how come every time TheHandsom posts an opinion or an article, there´s sudden hatered of him among Turkish users, most of whom, generally never insult other users.
I don´t think anyone but TheHandsom has had his origin questioned, hidden agenda insinuated and his senses insulted in a straightforward way; not ot mention being told to shut up numerous times.
Not that he always responds in a polite and calm manner. But I´m curious why his fellow-countymen get so agitated by his posts.
Bydand, I actually got a different impression. It seems to me, the dislike for him stems from the fact that he dares to criticise his country really hard and most Turkish users try to ridicule him rather than his ideas. Anyway, seems he was right in the "Women cannot marry men..." thread after all
Oeince - nobody was arguing in the thread but you. The way we debate here is not about personal comments and suggestions to see a shrink or having an inferiority complex. We exchange ideas - if you prove your point, fine. If you don´t - tough luck. You got angry at Vineyard because you found his comment rude, but the moment you realised it was aimed at Handsom, not you, you no longer found it rude but rather justified. How fair is that? If it was rude to you, isn´t it rude towards everybody else?
Oh, and I have proven my point in that thread. Turns out I am not a liar, nor have I twisted Alameda´s words. Not to mention the fact that I did not insult her. Don´t you think you owe me an apology for calling me guilty of all 3?
There´s a huge difference between disagreeing with someone´s opinions and insulting this person. I somehow feel your hostility towards me and I think I know which thread it is coming from. I am sorry if you feel I wrongly accused you of plagiarism, but I just expressed my doubt as to your being the author, judging by your level of English.
DD, i feel no hostility towards you. Absolutely no! I rather like you, and even more when you don´t attack people with deficient info! You are my old friend. And you were always a good one! I want to use my chance to celebrate your new kid! I am really happy to hear that.
However, thats true we think differently in a lot of issues, as well as the last thread issue and my reaction. I didn´t like Vineyard´s words in order i thought, he defends the attacker. Not because he turns to be rude. And after i understood the issue, i corrected those. And i told i think the same way with him. This is rather called consistency.
But please just check from the page 6 to 8. He was always like that and even more. Thats why i react him hardly. Because, i think he deserves that.
Thanks for congratulations But I still think you pushed it. I don´t think you were right suggesting all these bad things. It didn´t bring anything into the discussion about the subject, nor did it bring you two closer to reaching an agreement. TC charter says personal issues should be dealt with in private. True we often break rules here, but the exchange between you two was way beyond civilised.
I know TheH for a long time on this site, if you see his number of posts you understand he´s an experienced user. I don´t think it was necessary for you to get into a debate that had nothing to do with you and do backseat moderating. That´s my opinion!
I´m not defending Handsom, that´s not my job. I´m just saying that you pushed it. he didn´t give in and it ended in an unpleasant exchange. Next time, also, please try to avoid inciting anger. If you don´t like somebody´s post - answer to the point and if you cannot prove somebody wrong, but can´t ignore it, report him to the mods.
I don´t think TheHandsom had a point thinking Vineyards insulted him. After all, he was talking about facts crucial to the discussion. Still, it doesn´t change the fact that he didn´t deserve to read your words to him. It reminded me of playground fights...
I´m sure you know that you attacked him first in this thread. And you were wrong.
Thanks for congratulations But I still think you pushed it. I don´t think you were right suggesting all these bad things. It didn´t bring anything into the discussion about the subject, nor did it bring you two closer to reaching an agreement. TC charter says personal issues should be dealt with in private. True we often break rules here, but the exchange between you two was way beyond civilised.
I know TheH for a long time on this site, if you see his number of posts you understand he´s an experienced user. I don´t think it was necessary for you to get into a debate that had nothing to do with you and do backseat moderating. That´s my opinion!
I´m not defending Handsom, that´s not my job. I´m just saying that you pushed it. he didn´t give in and it ended in an unpleasant exchange. Next time, also, please try to avoid inciting anger. If you don´t like somebody´s post - answer to the point and if you cannot prove somebody wrong, but can´t ignore it, report him to the mods.
I don´t think TheHandsom had a point thinking Vineyards insulted him. After all, he was talking about facts crucial to the discussion. Still, it doesn´t change the fact that he didn´t deserve to read your words to him. It reminded me of playground fights...
I´m sure you know that you attacked him first in this thread. And you were wrong.
Now, where´s my apology?
You may not think Vineyards did not insult me but it started with
vineyards says 05 Oct 2010 Tue 11:06 pm:
I believe there is nothing wrong with the reaction thehandom has shown. All is in line with the saying: People with little brains talk about other people.
I did not answer him at all..I was not arguing with him at all!!
later on he reminds his innuendo
06 Oct 2010 Wed 06:15 am I suggest you read my message again. There might be an innuendo hidden somewhere.
I still did not answer him..
and he quotes something from my post and says
07 Oct 2010 Thu 04:40 am Hey man. You sound like Captain America.
Then I start answering and asking why he is getting personal..
Oeince, get over yourself. You firstly almost insult (not really, but getting close to it) a large group of people, and than get angry because somebody doesn´t react seriously to such a strange comment? What kind of a strange thing it is, to say most Westerners have a strange laugh... How many Westerners have you heard laughing? How many non-Westerners have you heard laughing? Have you heard a large enough sample of people laugh, to make laugh-related comments? Your strange post can only lead to a funny reaction, which you got. At least I thought it was funny, it made me laugh in my special Western way. So...like I said before... get over yourself, don´t take life so seriously, and how about laughing sometimes. In your own special Turkish way ofcourse, you don´t want to risk sounding like a hypocrite.
Such a silly argument! DD somewhere mentioned that it is stupid to come up with an argument as such as this.
I dont know many westerners or easterners but I will give my opinion on them. You call it stereotype or generalization.
Oeince does have a right to say anything he wants to say about westerners and whatever people or nation. So, keep this in mind, Ms. Poppins.
My response was also a joke, since Oeince is a research based person (ask him about his job He knows that he should´t draw conclusions too fast). I don´t have a problem with his strange, somewhat insulting comment. I have a problem with him getting angry with somebody who made a joke about his comment. Oeince took it all too serious in my opinion. Or can´t I express this opinion now? Anyway, nice how this thread turned serious again, like every other thread... I guess it´s something non-westerners do, they always get hurt ego´s over jokes... perhaps that´s why non-westerners don´t laugh so much
BM, I think your imagination about me doesn´t reflect my whole qualities.
My life is based on having and giving, spreading joy. And i like to lough a lot but not in the middle of an injustice situation.
Why dont you go check my posts? You will see that many of them is written to have fun.
BTW, i guess i met an amount of "Westerns" that is statisticly consistent to build up personal ideas.
I thought your reaction to Adam´s comment was over reacted, so I responded. The guy was just making a joke. You actually didn´t bite my head of for the response I made, but Lemon did So my last post was towards Lemon. But you have already lightened this thread up, so we don´t have any issues And look at that, a laugh It IS possible!
I think, ´trying to tie every single problem happening in the areas where Kurds are living, to the feudalism´ is very much related to Turkish series!!!
Some people watch those series and see the feudalism in them -or we call it asiret system - they think, that is how all the Kurds are living!! (same people, they watch valley of wolves -Kurtlar Vadisi- and believe its imaginary contents too!!!)
If X claims that the Z watches some serials, but the Z has never watched them, How would X been characterized? (Beware that X has no idea about Z´s daily life while answering)
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If X claims that the Z watches some serials, but the Z has never watched them, How would X been characterized? (Beware that X has no idea about Z´s daily life while answering)
Oeince,
How do you survive everyday life? Do you analyze everyone´s words everyday?
You just said that westerners have a hypocrite laughter (did you have any idea about westerners daliy life? ) You see to what you bring this whole thing?
I understand you are allergic to H, but think of this: people may get tired of your allergy.
Allergy is a hypersensitive disorder of the immune system..... It is characterized by excessive activation ... by a type of antibody known as IgE, resulting in an extreme inflammatory response.... ... Traditional treatment and management of allergies consisted simply of avoiding the allergen in question .. For instance, people with H allergies were encouraged to avoid H. .... Nonetheless, strict avoidance of allergens is still considered a useful treatment method, and is often used in H allergies. ==== ..However nothing beats a good old scratch!!!
TheAeinigma? Lemon there is a paper with your handwriting but it is called TheAenigma. Who is that?
Guys, you should point out, the impaired judgement of X and argue his possible delirium.
I wish you success for your next exams.
Dear Teacher of Complaint,
The object X has been numerously judged, talked about and belittled so that if you collect all the posts about X you can publish xx volume books. I refuse discussing the object X.
I ask for another home assignment re: the object U or A or B or V.
I´m good as long as FF stands For Fun. I don´t think anybody here takes your hostility to Handsom sriously. For all it matters, I don´t. Hence the mockery - did you realise the last one is a paraphrase of a poem from Alice in the Wonderland? Oh, you didn´t..in that case it´s FF
The object X has been numerously judged, talked about and belittled so that if you collect all the posts about X you can publish xx volume books. I refuse discussing the object X.
I ask for another home assignment re: the object U or A or B or V.
I´m good as long as FF stands For Fun. I don´t think anybody here takes your hostility to Handsom sriously. For all it matters, I don´t. Hence the mockery - did you realise the last one is a paraphrase of a poem from Alice in the Wonderland? Oh, you didn´t..in that case it´s FF
Ha ha, I think he really takes it seriously.. Very seriously!!
It is wrong to relent the onfair one when he reaps just what he sows.
I agree with this proverb. H does provoke many, but its up to you. You dont ave to add more fruits onto his crops. E.g. learn from aksakal Alpha. He doesnt give a toss to what H writes. Or learn from me, I dont either.
The more you react to his provocations the more you lose.
We are writing to encourage thehandsom, head of a boil, for changing his destructive debate style into constructive sharing one to eradicate the conflicts and establish a participative sharing climate in that site.
And we are glad to see even if just a bit positive changes in his attitudes in the last few days.
Nevertheless, I guess we must write sth. for you and DD as well because, we usually understand a fury in your words, but not your words.
We are writing to encourage thehandsom, head of a boil, for changing his destructive debate style into constructive sharing one to eradicate the conflicts and establish a participative sharing climate in that site.
And we are glad to see even if just a bit positive changes in his attitudes in the last few days.
Nevertheless, I guess we must write sth. for you and DD as well because, we usually understand a fury in your words, but not your words.
I´m sorry I didn´t get this one. Fury in whose words? Lemon´s or Handsom´s?
As for me, there´s no fury. I come here to have fun. I don´t get agitated easily and if this site was making me furious, I´d have quit a long time ago. I have a sarcastic way of speaking and I love dark humour with nothing sacred to spare. Also, I am not a great fan of political corectness. For now you seem the one who acts like an angry child taking things without a pinch of salt. Chill out, put your feet up and enjoy the ride with us
And, please, lose this weird plural WE. Unless you´ve got a split personality disorder, in which case, I take back my words
Plus, the fact that you think you´re right, doesn´t mean you are (it goes for all of us). So, unless you prove it - you´re not A person who is not able to admit they are wrong, is, most of the time not worth taking seriously
I agree with this proverb. H does provoke many, but its up to you. You dont ave to add more fruits onto his crops. E.g. learn from aksakal Alpha. He doesnt give a toss to what H writes. Or learn from me, I dont either.
The more you react to his provocations the more you lose.
Well..Thanks for that..Obviously, my love to you was not reciprocated..
Anyway.. Coming to the subject:
When I try to open a subject to discuss with a post like ´what about our Kurdish problem; what about adding some letters to alphabet for our Kurds etc´ if people are coming back with ´you got to be Kurdish; traitor; we have terrorism and terrorist supporters like you´ etc, then, when you ask them ´why they are not talking about the topic but getting into personal attacks´ and if you get an answer like ´we are sensitive to some subjects´ etc, excuse me, but those people´s sensitiveness should be slapped twice a day, 7 days a week. In order to make sure that they understood it.
It is not provocation. It was never provocation.
Some of these people never knew, what went on Diyarbakir prison; some did not know that how many people got parishes in 1915; some did not know that our Kurdish problem did not have anything to do with EU or USA; some still dont know what constitutes to racism, they still think it is being too patriotic..
I am not asking anybody to be provoked or seeking provocation here. It is perfectly fine if you dont give a toss about what I write..
We are writing to encourage thehandsom, head of a boil, for changing his destructive debate style into constructive sharing one to eradicate the conflicts and establish a participative sharing climate in that site.
And we are glad to see even if just a bit positive changes in his attitudes in the last few days.
Nevertheless, I guess we must write sth. for you and DD as well because, we usually understand a fury in your words, but not your words.
To be honest.. Oeince, I am really sorry but, you are way way "clever" than I first guessed..
Now, I am thinking if I should keep having banters with you or not in the future.. I am serious!!
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[I got rid of ´less´ which was infront of the words ´clever´.. ]
The beauty of this site is that everyone is allowed to express their opinion. Even a certain amount of arguing is allowed. Turkey, from an outsiders point of view, is a very conflicted country. It is a living representation of the conflicts that are happening all over the world...Religious Governent V. Secular Government, East V. West, Tradition V. Modern. While thehandsom is provocative to many people on this site, he is also a unique member in that he represents a very different mindset than more traditionally minded Turks. I don´t know if he is purposely trying to upset his Turkish countrymen, but to a Westerner, he sheds light on subjects that are somewhat taboo to speak about in polite Turkish society. I have been living between American and Turkish culture now for quite a few years, so I know what it is like to have to walk on eggshells about certain subjects. In any case, I don´t always agree with him...sometimes he makes me quite angry (he makes my job difficult)...but I do value him as a classmate.
I apologise if I went too far. You only had to say "ouh I didn´t realise you were being ironic/sarcastic) and that would have been that, but to continue to patronise me by stating the obvious was not good.
I dont apologise for the PM as that is the place for personal disputes, not here.
I am a rottweiler and won´t let go of the point. I do try to stay calmer these days though...
TheAenigma (please note spelling...whoops there I go again...)
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[sticky keyboard.....honey? :S]
I lost my driving licence so I went online to see how to get a new one. My old licence was a paper version but my new one had to be a plastic one with a photo and signature incorporated. Uhh I thought, I will have to visit a dreaded photobooth and then queue for ages in the Post Office, then wait for ages for the licence to arrive.
Imagine my pleasure when I was able to apply online for a new licence! As I was in possession of a digital passport, all I had to do was key in my passport number. the photo and signature is then copied from passport office records and addded to the licence. I applied on Monday evening and my licence arrived on Friday. Big Brother is great sometimes
Oh Kitty, do not act like your own grandma Don´t you think the future of the nation deserves some entertainment?
I have the same feeling about guys who drive very old cars with sports exhaust. My blood boils every time I hear the noise but then i see the car (usually an old Golf in a faded red color - why is it red that always fades?) and I feel sort of sorry for them for being such pr*cks
Dude dont exagurate me, I can´t compete with Einstein But don´t be sorry, my intelligence doesn´t dissapoint you as I have ranked as "Very Superior" several times. Speaking of, what about yours?
I know you don´t think the way you wrote about my intelligence, because an avarage or high avarage guy knows who is very superior or not. Thehandsomcım, i don´t expect you to change in one day but its not nice to try to provocate someone by trying to underestime him. You shall stop to use cheap arguments however, due to a few positive changes with you, I forgive You.
Coming to having benters issue, Dude, its not nice to have benter with people. Also, as you know, just before you dream to benter with me, I will always be thought three steps further. I also take that as an argument to to hurt your answerer. But thehandsom, if you don´t try to hurt your answerer, you won´t be hurt! I reccomend you to stop to trying to conflict with me, don´t you see? that hurts you! I would be more profitable for you if you believe in the power of sharing. And I am always ready to help you.
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Dude dont exagurate me, I can´t compete with Einstein But don´t be sorry, my intelligence doesn´t dissapoint you as I have ranked as "Very Superior" several times. Speaking of, what about yours?
I know you don´t think the way you wrote about my intelligence, because an avarage or high avarage guy knows who is very superior or not. Thehandsomcım, i don´t expect you to change in one day but its not nice to try to provocate someone by trying to underestime him. You shall stop to use cheap arguments however, due to a few positive changes with you, I forgive You.
Coming to having benters issue, Dude, its not nice to have benter with people. Also, as you know, just before you dream to benter with me, I will always be thought three steps further. I also take that as an argument to to hurt your answerer. But thehandsom, if you don´t try to hurt your answerer, you won´t be hurt! I reccomend you to stop to trying to conflict with me, don´t you see? that hurts you! I would be more profitable for you if you believe in the power of sharing. And I am always ready to help you.
You are joking..
Right?
So I was right when I called you ´oeince the genious´?
Come on you ´three steps further´ thinking guy who was ranked as ´very superior´ , hurt me/us/everybody by confliciting..
I am not underestimating you!! Not at all!! I am hurt, I am scared I will get hurt more and I need help!! I need more positive changes!!
Dude dont exagurate me, I can´t compete with Einstein But don´t be sorry, my intelligence doesn´t dissapoint you as I have ranked as "Very Superior" several times. Speaking of, what about yours?
I know you don´t think the way you wrote about my intelligence, because an avarage or high avarage guy knows who is very superior or not. Thehandsomcım, i don´t expect you to change in one day but its not nice to try to provocate someone by trying to underestime him. You shall stop to use cheap arguments however, due to a few positive changes with you, I forgive You.
Coming to having benters issue, Dude, its not nice to have benter with people. Also, as you know, just before you dream to benter with me, I will always be thought three steps further. I also take that as an argument to to hurt your answerer. But thehandsom, if you don´t try to hurt your answerer, you won´t be hurt! I reccomend you to stop to trying to conflict with me, don´t you see? that hurts you! I would be more profitable for you if you believe in the power of sharing. And I am always ready to help you.
As people are correcting Turkish on here, to help others learn better, I thought I´d give a go with the English (starting with correct spelling etc)
Dude don´t exaggerate me. I can´t compete with Einstein,but don´t be sorry, my intelligence doesn´t dissapoint you as I have ranked as "Very Superior" several times. Speaking of, what about yours?
I know you don´t think the way you wrote about my intelligence, because an avarage or high avarage guy knows who is very superior or not.
- This sentence didn´t make much sense to me, so I may be wrong in correcting it but here are a couple choices with the correct grammar etc
1) I know you don´t think that way, due to the way you wrote about my intelligence. because a man who is average or above average knows who is more very superior or not.
2) I know you don´t think because of the way you wrote about my intelligence. An average or abover average man knows who is very superior or not.
Thehandsomcım, I don´t expect you to change in one day but it´s not nice to try to provocate someone by trying to underestime (I think you mean "underestimate") him. You shall stop to use cheap arguments however, due to a few positive changes with you, I forgive You.
Coming to having banters issue, Dude, its not nice to have a banter with people. Also, as you know, just before you dream to banter with me, I will always be thought three steps further (thought as three steps ahead). I also take that as an argument to to hurt your answerer. But thehandsom, if you don´t try to hurt your answerer, you won´t be hurt! I reccomend you to stop to trying (stop trying) to conflict with me. Don´t you see? That hurts you! I would be more profitable for you if you believe in the power of sharing. And I am always ready to help you.
There is a big difference is between solicited and unsolicited advice. Nothing is quite as unwelcome, or useless as unsolicited advice. I´m reminded of the classic advice...."Physician heal thyself".....
Quoting busyb
As people are correcting Turkish on here, to help others learn better, I thought I´d give a go with the English (starting with correct spelling etc)
There is a big difference is between solicited and unsolicited advice. Nothing is quite as unwelcome, or useless as unsolicited advice. I´m reminded of the classic advice...."Physician heal thyself".....
I like the term "little help is better than no help" better. Just tried helping with the correct spelling and a little grammar. He done well with what he said so I didn´t want to go into too much detail as his english was already very good.
Or you could just stay away and not worry about how many Californian´s are hanging about!
A bear dies and goes straight into heaven wihtout any questioning.. The crowd in the heaven is surprised with the speed and the situation and they ask the bear what sort of good deeds he has made when he was alive. Do you know what he said? He said ´I have eatean a Californian´..
Translation forums are filled with requests from girls wanting to know what the love of their life has just told them in their ongoing MSN conversation or urgently requesting translation of an email, which in all actuality has no urgency at all!
(Is it a couple of girls repeatedly posting? Or is it all just one girl with multiple personalities? It´s sooo confusing .....anyway, I digress).
It warms the heart to know that no matter how much time I spend away from TC I can always count on coming back and seeing repeat episodes of past posts!
Translation forums are filled with requests from girls wanting to know what the love of their life has just told them in their ongoing MSN conversation or urgently requesting translation of an email, which in all actuality has no urgency at all!
Before reality hits them hard on the head and they come tumbling back to Earth and from then on forward we will hear messages of break ups and "I can´t believe you did this to me, you were everything to me, I really thought you loved me" blah blah blah - It´s just one big cycle
hello My Name is ... i am a very beautiful young girl, I saw your profile today in this site and i stopped to take a very good look at it. I want you to know that i will be intrested to know you better because you sound very sweet and nice in your profile so i will like us to become friends and know each other the more.Here is my email address (xxxxxxxx) send me an email today and i will send you my pictures and tell you more about me please!(Remember that distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot).I am waiting for your reply now! here is my email again ( xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Yours forever, xxxxxxxxx
I think she must have extraordinary powers because my profile does not say much (it only says ´male´ but she knows ´I am very sweet and nice´!!!
And distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot..
woohoo
I had 2 more PMs..Similer..The exact copy indeed..I think I must really have left a very good impression with her..She is falling for me!!!
wow..8 more PMS!!!
She is in love with me..woohoo
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[.8 more PMS!!!]
hello My Name is ... i am a very beautiful young girl, I saw your profile today in this site and i stopped to take a very good look at it. I want you to know that i will be intrested to know you better because you sound very sweet and nice in your profile so i will like us to become friends and know each other the more.Here is my email address (xxxxxxxx) send me an email today and i will send you my pictures and tell you more about me please!(Remember that distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot).I am waiting for your reply now! here is my email again ( xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Yours forever, xxxxxxxxx
I think she must have extraordinary powers because my profile does not say much (it only says ´male´ but she knows ´I am very sweet and nice´!!!
And distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot..
woohoo
I had 2 more PMs..Similer..The exact copy indeed..I think I must really have left a very good impression with her..She is falling for me!!!
wow..8 more PMS!!!
She is in love with me..woohoo
I got that pm as well... both in English and Turkish (from online translation as some pieces remained in english.. )!!
I´m just wondering what kind of disturbed person she must be..
I got that pm as well... both in English and Turkish (from online translation as some pieces remained in english.. )!!
I´m just wondering what kind of disturbed person she must be..
I think it´s just a way to get email addresses in order to send them spam. Perhaps the person has a shop or something and is looking for potential clients. I suppose as soon as you contact them, you´re going to get commercial emails. You know, there are ads that go "make money by sending emails" - maybe it´s what goft4u is trying to do
hello My Name is ... i am a very beautiful young girl, I saw your profile today in this site and i stopped to take a very good look at it. I want you to know that i will be intrested to know you better because you sound very sweet and nice in your profile so i will like us to become friends and know each other the more.Here is my email address (xxxxxxxx) send me an email today and i will send you my pictures and tell you more about me please!(Remember that distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot).I am waiting for your reply now! here is my email again ( xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Yours forever, xxxxxxxxx
I think she must have extraordinary powers because my profile does not say much (it only says ´male´ but she knows ´I am very sweet and nice´!!!
And distance,age or colour does not matter in a reall relationship but love matters alot..
woohoo
I had 2 more PMs..Similer..The exact copy indeed..I think I must really have left a very good impression with her..She is falling for me!!!
wow..8 more PMS!!!
She is in love with me..woohoo
haha! - is this the return of ´binue222´ - persistent little soul isn´t he/she
I think it´s just a way to get email addresses in order to send them spam. Perhaps the person has a shop or something and is looking for potential clients. I suppose as soon as you contact them, you´re going to get commercial emails. You know, there are ads that go "make money by sending emails" - maybe it´s what goft4u is trying to do
Wow, I haven´t thought of this! That must be it.. it´s too strange otherwise. You´re good DD!!
I´ve been watching a survival show on discovery channel, with a man named Bear Grylls. I was impressed with how he was tracking down the desert...but than I realized that the camera man is doing the same with a heavy machine on his shoulders
I´ve been watching a survival show on discovery channel, with a man named Bear Grylls. I was impressed with how he was tracking down the desert...but than I realized that the camera man is doing the same with a heavy machine on his shoulders
Love this show...it is one of the few shows that my son and I both like!
I hate to burst your bubble so, if you really really like his shows, don´t click on the link here
No bubbles burst I just watched the guy drink fluid from camel-poo that he skooped out of the dead camel´s body. I don´t care if he was in an all-in 5 star hotel that night He drank dead-camel-poo-water! He´s still cute though
No bubbles burst I just watched the guy drink fluid from camel-poo that he skooped out of the dead camel´s body. I don´t care if he was in an all-in 5 star hotel that night He drank dead-camel-poo-water! He´s still cute though
"I want you to know that i will be intrested to know you better because you sound very sweet and nice in your profile so i will like us to become friends and know each other the more.Here is my email address...."
two pennies for my thoughts... why can´t life be a string of excitement and happiness and self satisfaction..??? why are there always mistakes and regrets and you have to be satisfied with the hope that it will all eventually get better...
two pennies for my thoughts... why can´t life be a string of excitement and happiness and self satisfaction..??? why are there always mistakes and regrets and you have to be satisfied with the hope that it will all eventually get better...
I suppose....if you were happy all the time, you wouldn´t know you were happy (if that makes sense!). Unless...you are SusieK
two pennies for my thoughts... why can´t life be a string of excitement and happiness and self satisfaction..??? why are there always mistakes and regrets and you have to be satisfied with the hope that it will all eventually get better...
Why do I love Indian food so much? It gives me heartburn every time I eat it! BUT I STILL EAT IT!! Is this the same thing?
I suppose....if you were happy all the time, you wouldn´t know you were happy (if that makes sense!). Unless...you are SusieK
For you
But that´s like saying live your life in misery and you´ll be rewarded when you´re dead.. Do we have to be miserable to deserve/earn happiness? Anyway... a little bit of unhappiness is ok...
But that´s like saying live your life in misery and you´ll be rewarded when you´re dead.. Do we have to be miserable to deserve/earn happiness? Anyway... a little bit of unhappiness is ok...
Nooooooooooo! I don´t believe in all that deserve/earn rubbish! All I´m saying is that if you were happy all the time, you´d start to take being happy for granted and you wouldn´t know you were happy after a while
Nooooooooooo! I don´t believe in all that deserve/earn rubbish! All I´m saying is that if you were happy all the time, you´d start to take being happy for granted and you wouldn´t know you were happy after a while
I guess.. theoretically! I´ll let you know if I get to test your hypothesis..
The more I read the translation forum, the more I realise the advantages of having a boyfriend who speaks no English and you speak no Turkish. Imagine the advantages!!
"No askim I can´t understand what you´re saying, now just finish the washing the dishes and shut up".
"Sorry I can´t explain to you why I´m going out with the girls tonight until Tunci comes online to translate it for me".
"Do I like your new haircut? Sorry I can´t reply"
"It´s MY turn to cook the dinner? Sorry I can´t understand you"
The following needs to be added to Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code:-
Disagreeing with any Turkish citizen on any subject is also illegal. If a Turk says he likes sugar in his coffee, you must also say you like sugar in your coffee, even if you don´t
MODIFY: Actually that is unfair to Turks, who rarely complain and enjoy a good argument. I should amend this to the STUMPY/BYDAND RULE
The following needs to be added to Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code:-
Disagreeing with any Turkish citizen on any subject is also illegal. If a Turk says he likes sugar in his coffee, you must also say you like sugar in your coffee, even if you don´t
MODIFY: Actually that is unfair to Turks, who rarely complain and enjoy a good argument. I should amend this to the STUMPY/BYDAND RULE
one needs brain, at least not fully damaged in order to understand your level of sarcasm.
TC members, look at yourselves for a moment please.
Nearly all of you judged me, made an idiot of me, insulted and belittled me. None of you gave yourseoves a little time nor a little credit to what I say.
Oh, lets jump on Lemon, lets have fun, lets ridicule her.
And you think you are good people?
None of you ever expressed a single self critical statement. And you say that Lemon is proud. Do you ever ask God for forgiveness?
According to the suggestion of dear users such as aida kirshnan or tunci or metehan I am saying BYE to all. The sentence "May you rest in peace" written to me says it all.
I understand you got tired of me and I ruin your happy atmosphere here.
The book is good as well. I think you can get it in Turkish too - If you ever read it and like it try A Thousand Splendid Suns...WOW! Both are written by Khaled Hosseini who is from Afganistan.
I also read the Kite Runner and found it very good read. My Afghan friends on the other hand, were very upset with Mr. Hosseini for writing the book. Interesting. After seeing the PBS documentary "the dancing boys of Afghanistan" I´d say he was pretty mild.
Quoting Elisabeth
The book is good as well. I think you can get it in Turkish too - If you ever read it and like it try A Thousand Splendid Suns...WOW! Both are written by Khaled Hosseini who is from Afganistan.
I also read the Kite Runner and found it very good read. My Afghan friends on the other hand, were very upset with Mr. Hosseini for writing the book. Interesting. After seeing the PBS documentary "the dancing boys of Afghanistan" I´d say he was pretty mild.
Looked up the PBS documentary...So sad. I guess I can´t blame your Afghan friends for being upset. Nobody likes to look at the ugly side of their culture. I agree, Hosseini put it mildly.
Another book that has raised serious concerns is "Kabul Beauty School". I am in agreement with them in this case. I feel she seriously exploited the situation, endangered the lives and well being of those who trusted her.
Although the book was very interesting, she left those she wrote about very exposed. A lady friend of mine explained that even though the book is not available in Afthanistan, there is a large expat community, with ties to their homeland, who can read the book and recognize the subjects of the book. The damage she has done is inestimable.
Quoting Elisabeth
Looked up the PBS documentary...So sad. I guess I can´t blame your Afghan friends for being upset. Nobody likes to look at the ugly side of their culture. I agree, Hosseini put it mildly.
Another book that has raised serious concerns is "Kabul Beauty School". I am in agreement with them in this case. I feel she seriously exploited the situation, endangered the lives and well being of those who trusted her.
Although the book was very interesting, she left those she wrote about very exposed. A lady friend of mine explained that even though the book is not available in Afthanistan, there is a large expat community, with ties to their homeland, who can read the book and recognize the subjects of the book. The damage she has done is inestimable.
It must haven taken a tremendous amount of trust to tell their stories. I can´t imagine that these women have a way out if they are discovered.
Yes, it also sets back international relations, US relations in particular, back a great deal. Although I have some Afghan friends, I find they are not very trusting, and I understand why.
Many years ago a friend of mine, from Saudi, once said, we make friends, invite them into our homes, and then they write books about us. It´s unfortunate, but it seems to be true.
Another one is Nine Parts Desire.
I think these women should take the veil off their own eyes & look at their own cultures clearly, rather than going to places they have little understanding about, rather than going in like a bull in chna shop.
Quoting Elisabeth
It must haven taken a tremendous amount of trust to tell their stories. I can´t imagine that these women have a way out if they are discovered.
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The shop round the corner promised me that he will bring keçi boynuzu too..
Keçi boynuzu is translated as goat horn but actually it is nothing to do with the goats. It is carob tree pods.
Interestingly when I was looking for a picture, what I learnt is that the weight of the seeds you get from these pods never changes. The seeds used as weight by Arabs, Selcuks and Ottomans. 16 seeds were making a "dirhem" (1 dirhem =3.2 grams)
We have a Turkish phrase "2 dirhem 1 cekirdek". It is used for people who wear make up or smart clothes. Cekirdek means seed. That cekirdek is the seed of the goat horn I was talking about in the beginning
"Pass the parcel. That´s sometimes all you can do. Take it, feel it and pass it on. Not for me, not for you, but for someone, somewhere, one day. Pass it on, boys. That´s the game I want you to learn. Pass it on."
A highly dangerous virus called " Weekly Overload Recreational Killer" (WORK) is currently going around. If u come in contact with this WORK virus, u should immediately go to the nearest " Biological Anxiety Relief " (BAR) centre to take antidotes known as "Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract" (WINE), "Radioactive UNWORK Medicine" (RUM), "Bothersome Employer Elimination Rebooter" (BEER) or "Vaccine Official Depression Killing Antigen" (VODKA).
I sincerely think that Elisabeth should think what justice is.
if a person is almost swearing under the open sun and someone is responding to that person ´you are Rude´ without using any foul language and then blocking the thread with saying that ´ah you are all rude to eachother´ is biased and not just!!
Honestly handsom, I locked the thread because several of you would stop fanning the flames of discontent. I am damned if I do something and damned if I don´t...just because you are not cursing doesn´t mean that your posts are not inflammatory. Anyway, I knew if anyone would object, it would be you...the only innocent member of TC. I am just curious why you took that so personally?
Honestly handsom, I locked the thread because several of you would stop fanning the flames of discontent. I am damned if I do something and damned if I don´t...just because you are not cursing doesn´t mean that your posts are not inflammatory. Anyway, I knew if anyone would object, it would be you...the only innocent member of TC. I am just curious why you took that so personally?
In my opinion you are wrong. You are blocking the thread with saying that ´ah you were all rude to eachother´. Well I was not rude!! Now you are saying that I was not using the cursing -or as it happened, blatantly almost swearing- but my posts were inflammatory. (My +1s are or when the person kept using fould language my answers, ´she was rude´ were included.) Someone might think my +1s are inflammatory but I was NOT RUDE. But however, you did not hesitate to put me into the same bag by saying that ´ah you were all Rude´. That is annoying and it is not the only time you have been doing this. It happend with Alpha too.. He was swearing, I was not but responding without swearing and hoping that you would notice the difference but you stepped in and put us in one bag.
Tell me one good reason why I should be called rude by you? why?
In my opinion you are wrong. You are blocking the thread with saying that ´ah you were all rude to eachother´. Well I was not rude!! Now you are saying that I was not using the cursing -or as it happened, blatantly almost swearing- but my posts were inflammatory. (My +1s are or when the person kept using fould language my answers, ´she was rude´ were included.) Someone might think my +1s are inflammatory but I was NOT RUDE. But however, you did not hesitate to put me into the same bag by saying that ´ah you were all Rude´. That is annoying and it is not the only time you have been doing this. It happend with Alpha too.. He was swearing, I was not but responding without swearing and hoping that you would notice the difference but you stepped in and put us in one bag.
Tell me one good reason why I should be called rude by you? why?
I seriously think you are biased.
seriously.... foul language , I have to disagree with that. Maybe rude but I was extremely carefully about not name calling or using foul language . Believe me I could of called you things that you would never of understood. I don´t think I referred to anyone as a bigot..... but yet you made this referral to me...hmmmm here I will let you whine here and not bother with you because clearly you just want your own way. We were all wrong if anyone was wrong...... I am glad MOther Elisabeth did what she did as it was digressing.
seriously.... foul language , I have to disagree with that. Maybe rude but I was extremely carefully about not name calling or using foul language . Believe me I could of called you things that you would never of understood. I don´t think I referred to anyone as a bigot..... but yet you made this referral to me...hmmmm here I will let you whine here and not bother with you because clearly you just want your own way. We were all wrong if anyone was wrong...... I am glad MOther Elisabeth did what she did as it was digressing.
Have a nice day and a lolipop
cheers
You were rude earlier and you are rude again with foul language!!. Go and check your posts.. check what you said to alameda..Go and check what you said to me. About being bigoted? Well I explained it in my thread why. Anyway..
You were rude earlier and you are rude again with foul language!!. Go and check your posts.. check what you said to alameda..Go and check what you said to me. About being bigoted? Well I explained it in my thread why. Anyway..
I would thank Lisa if I were you..
Yeah your maturity level is right up there with your need to constantly add fuel, If I were you I would also thank Lisa for letting you continue with your tyrantical raving and whinning.
I don´t know why you think you are so innocent, and what you write sometimes on the forum is not foul or at time sexually explicit or just plain .............,, drop it and leave it walk away if you can... .......
Yeah your maturity level is right up there with your need to constantly add fuel, If I were you I would also thank Lisa for letting you continue with your tyrantical raving and whinning.
I don´t know why you think you are so innocent, and what you write sometimes on the forum is not foul or at time sexually explicit or just plain .............,, drop it and leave it walk away if you can... .......
I wrote many things in the forum and I am proud of many of them. Not very many of them includes foul language because it is just the level you dont want to see yourself. Anyway.. I am sure you would love to see me at your level with the same vulgar words. But I really am not there.. Sorry
And I am sure Lisa would simple love to interfere with the same ´ah but you are both doing the same´ type of thing if I answered you with the same words. But thanks.. I really dont like loking I am in the same bag with you. Sorry but that is the truth.
I wrote many things in the forum and I am proud of many of them. Not very many of them includes foul language because it is just the level you dont want to see yourself. Anyway.. I am sure you would love to see me at your level with the same vulgar words. But I really am not there.. Sorry
And I am sure Lisa would simple love to interfere with the same ´ah but you are both doing the same´ type of thing if I answered you with the same words. But thanks.. I really dont like loking I am in the same bag with you. Sorry but that is the truth.
a- ac tavuk kendini dari ambarinda gorurmus does not fit as an idiom
b- I really dont want to converse with you and then deal with you and Elisabeth.
a - this is your own imposed idiom you wrote in a past post
b- good this will mean you will not retort with another remark and will lead by example and show everyone how mature and tolerant you can be by not adding any fuel to a burning fire.
c- if you can refrain from again having to remark there will be no c
a - this is your own imposed idiom you wrote in a past post
b- good this will mean you will not retort with another remark and will lead by example and show everyone how mature and tolerant you can be by not adding any fuel to a burning fire.
c- if you can refrain from again having to remark there will be no c
Obviously you dont know which idioms go where. I would recommend studying ´dam ustunde saksagan vur beline kazmayi´. I dont need to show anything to anybody. I can comment on anything as long as my comments are not rude or offensive to anybody. You should do the same.
Obviously you dont know which idioms go where. I would recommend studying ´dam ustunde saksagan vur beline kazmayi´. I dont need to show anything to anybody. I can comment on anything as long as my comments are not rude or offensive to anybody. You should do the same.
you are way to funny..... you just can´t control that urge.... lmao at the level of maturity , is this to be blamed on turkish culture or because you think you are THE MAN, or old age, how your mother brought you up, no one at home respects you or listen to your rants.... the list goes on
now I don´t call you names I just ask these question which theorectically is polictically correct.
a list of sounds
high heels clacking on the marble tiles of a church
a soda can being opened
the constanted whinning of an old man
a marble rolling on a wooden floor
wood popping and crackling as it burns
an orchestra tuning
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[I had sand in my eyes]
you are way to funny..... you just can´t control that urge.... lmao at the level of maturity , is this to be blamed on turkish culture or because you think you are THE MAN, or old age, how your mother brought you up, no one at home respects you or listen to your rants.... the list goes on
now I don´t call you names I just ask these question which theorectically is polictically correct.
a list of sounds
high heels clacking on the marble tiles of a church
a soda can being opened
the constanted whinning of an old man
a marble rolling on a wooden floor
wood popping and crackling as it burns
an orchestra tuning
You are still rude!! Just try harder to be polite next time.
I also think that you constantly coming back with insults might be considered as online harrasment!
That´s fantastic! You sure have many transformations.
Yes, I ve changed a lot. Life is interesting and wonderful. It leads you to new paths, throws new challenges, makes you meet many different people. And I am a big romantic baby in my heart who always played someone tough and rude to outside spectators.
One thing never changed about you, you´ve always been funny!
Its good to have somewhat sense of humor. Many people consider me very serious and strict. I look so apparently.
I am learning to be content with what I have and what I am. I have realized that I dont have to fight in order to be noticed. I stand out anyway. Opposite, now they fight in order to get my attention I am enjoying it. My life just has started.
I must say that you have an excellent memory.. I´d be scared to argue with you.
Thanks, Catwoman
You should know I´m always around, because TLC is more than just a website for me But seems that lately it is not very popular being an old member here...
Hehe... too bad I missed taking part in "Who remembers" topic, with such an excellent memory
???....I have an ice cream maker....you can make any flavor you can dream of and get the flavors for. Yum....actually home made ice cream is wonderful...and you know what is in it, no funny ingredients you can´t pronounce!
Quoting catwoman
Ice cream binging is a BAD idea, even if it seems good at the moment and even if it´s the best ice cream in the world that you can have. DON´T DO IT!
A few days in Istanbul have taught me that studying Turkish was one of the few clever - or shall I say lucky - decisions I have made during my life. I urgently need to learn more.
I hate to use superlatives or flatter people and that is not my intention now either but what I have found in Turkey is only warm, helpful, patient, shy and clean people who respect the little effort a learner and a culture enthusiast has taken.
Ice cream binging is a BAD idea, even if it seems good at the moment and even if it´s the best ice cream in the world that you can have. DON´T DO IT!
I´ve got into frozen yogurt ... miles fewer calories. You can freeze a small pot in about 2 hours, and if you choose a low cal yogurt it´s even fewer cals -- but still the same pleasure!
???....I have an ice cream maker....you can make any flavor you can dream of and get the flavors for. Yum....actually home made ice cream is wonderful...and you know what is in it, no funny ingredients you can´t pronounce!
That´s actually a great idea, what do you make your ice cream from in the ice cream maker?
Here is a link to a pdf of the one I have. Of course, you can adjust the ingredients to your taste. I cut the sugar. Play with it. In commercial ice cream you would be amazed at the adulteration of the ingredients.
Quoting catwoman
Quoting alameda
???....I have an ice cream maker....you can make any flavor you can dream of and get the flavors for. Yum....actually home made ice cream is wonderful...and you know what is in it, no funny ingredients you can´t pronounce!
That´s actually a great idea, what do you make your ice cream from in the ice cream maker?
I have a Breville ice cream maker and my favorite flavor right now is Key Lime Pie. It´s a 1/2 cup of granular sweetner for ice cream, 2 tablespoons of corn starch, 1/8 teaspoon of salt, 2 cups of low fat milk, 1 cup of 1/2 and 1/2, one egg yolk, 1 teaspoon of lime zest, 1/3 cup of key lime juice and then I throw in some graham cracker crumbs (for the "crust"). I got the recipe from Southern Living Magazine (they have some of the best comfort food recipes!!)
Wow, that´s an expensive one. I´m sure it does a better job than my Donvier, actually, I have two. I found a cute little penguin one pint model that I just had to have......I´ve got to get rid of one of them. I use it in particular for extra fruit. Here in CA we have a lot of fruit and after canning, making pies, jams and jellies, ice cream and sherbert are other options for what to do with extra fruit. I´m not complaining about the fruit, but I just want to use them wisely.....
Quoting Elisabeth
I have a Breville ice cream maker and my favorite flavor right now is Key Lime Pie. It´s a 1/2 cup of granular sweetner for ice cream, 2 tablespoons of corn starch, 1/8 teaspoon of salt, 2 cups of low fat milk, 1 cup of 1/2 and 1/2, one egg yolk, 1 teaspoon of lime zest, 1/3 cup of key lime juice and then I throw in some graham cracker crumbs (for the "crust"). I got the recipe from Southern Living Magazine (they have some of the best comfort food recipes!!)
I use it quite a bit. I started using it a lot more now that my kids have gotten into making it with me. They like to pick their own flavors. In the end, I think it saves a bunch of money since ice cream is actually really expensive!
Here in CA we have a lot of fruit and after canning, making pies, jams and jellies, ice cream and sherbert are other options for what to do with extra fruit. I´m not complaining about the fruit, but I just want to use them wisely.....
make fruit flavored vinegars, you can start with either using a cider vinegar which goes well with fruit or a balsamic one
also you could make syrups for later in the year to add zest to cooking or drizzled on yogurt icecream or on a nice cracker with goatcheese
Fruit and vegetables. Fruits often used to flavor vinegars include strawberries, raspberries, pears, peaches and the peel of oranges or lemons. Allow the peel of one orange or lemon or 1 to 2 cups of fruit per pint of vinegar flavored. For variation, try fruits in combination with herbs or spices. Vegetables, such as fresh garlic cloves and jalapeno peppers, can also be used to add zest to vinegars. Thread these on thin bamboo skewers for easy insertion and removal. Thoroughly wash all fruits and vegetables with clean water and peel, if necessary, before use. Small fruits and vegetables may be halved or left whole; large ones may need to be sliced or cubed.
Vinegar selection. The type of vinegar to use as the base depends on what is being added. Fruits blend well with apple cider vinegar. Distilled white vinegar is clear in color and best with delicate herbs. Red and white wine vinegars work well with garlic and tarragon. Do be aware, however, that wine and rice vinegars contain protein that provides an excellent medium for bacterial growth, if not stored properly.
Preparation
To make flavored vinegars, place the prepared herbs, fruits or spices in the sterilized jars, being careful to avoid overpacking the bottles. Use three to four sprigs of fresh herbs, 3 tablespoons of dried herbs or 1 to 2 cups of fruit or vegetables per pint of vinegar to be flavored. Heat vinegar to just below boiling (190F), then pour over the herbs and cap tightly. Allow to stand for three to four weeks in a cool, dark place for the flavor to develop fully. Then, strain the vinegar through a damp cheesecloth or coffee filter one or more times until the vinegar is no longer cloudy. Discard the fruit, vegetables or herbs. Pour the strained vinegar into a clean sterilized jar. Add a sprig or two of fresh herbs or berries that have been sanitized as described above. Seal tightly. Store in the refrigerator for best flavor retention.
The flavoring process can be shortened by a week or so by bruising or coarsely chopping the herbs and fruits before placing in the bottles and adding the hot vinegar. To test for flavor development, place a few drops of the flavored vinegar on some white bread and taste. When the flavor is appropriate, strain the ingredients one or more times through a damp cheesecloth or coffee filter. Pour the strained vinegar into a clean sterilized jar. Add a sprig or two of fresh herbs that have been sanitized as described above. Seal tightly. Store in the refrigerator for best flavor retention.
my favorite is using lemons and oranges only with a clear balsalmic and a bit of sugar syrup to sweeten.
I never thought about getting an ice cream maker, but that sounds like a great christmas gift idea! The only problem might be stopping oneself from making the ice cream..
I never thought about getting an ice cream maker, but that sounds like a great christmas gift idea! The only problem might be stopping oneself from making the ice cream..
This is exactly the problem...also part of the reason I have 2 freezors!
Interesting....actually I have been making vinegar. It´s not that hard. I´ve made jams, pickles, cooked, baked, dried and more. Vinegar can be made out of various fruits, like pineapple.Getting started takes some time, you have to develop "mother". Once you have that things move faster.
Quoting Kelowna
make fruit flavored vinegars, you can start with either using a cider vinegar which goes well with fruit or a balsamic one
also you could make syrups for later in the year to add zest to cooking or drizzled on yogurt icecream or on a nice cracker with goatcheese
I think once you start making it, you realise the adlteration in commercial ice ceam and the the elbow grease required limits the desire to have more.
Quoting catwoman
I never thought about getting an ice cream maker, but that sounds like a great christmas gift idea! The only problem might be stopping oneself from making the ice cream..
I know I am going to sound miserable, but i´ve had enough of fire works. Don´t people realise that both fireworks night and Divali have now passed. People in my area seem to be doing fireworks every night. Pretty to start with but the bangs are now boring me. Hope this doesn´t last to christmas Edited (11/10/2013) by insallah Edited (11/10/2013) by insallah
I know I am going to sound miserable, but i´ve had enough of fire works. Don´t people realise that both fireworks night and Divali have now passed. People in my area seem to be doing fireworks every night. Pretty to start with but the bangs are now boring me. Hope this doesn´t last to christmas
I was given a ticket for ´Lights not conforming or not lit during hours of darkness´ last night when coming home on my bicycle!!!
Are you serious ? I didn´t even know it was a legal requirement, obviously having lights makes it safer but had no idea it was required , i´m sure lots of kids wont have them. Think it was a quiet day for police.......
Are you serious ? I didn´t even know it was a legal requirement, obviously having lights makes it safer but had no idea it was required , i´m sure lots of kids wont have them. Think it was a quiet day for police.......
I am serious.. It says ´offence code :506´ on the ticket. Grrr..
Why I hate women. Thank God I am not a man, I don´t worship women. I don´t melt over tits and bits.
If you hand power over to women they become real bitches and abuse their positions. Merkel, May and the biggest bitch Hillary. Basically they lead to desctruction. Women are also intrigue plotters, they are jealous, very selfish, cruel, craving for attention only to themselves. They are less intelligent than men. They have no solidarity like men have with each other. Because they can´t trust each other. When I say this I mean 90-95% of women.
Therefore, it is extremely dangerous to elect women as leaders. Even Mother Teresa was a hidious woman who didn´t care about patients, many of them died withtout proper care and attention. All the money she received went straight to the Vatican.
I am also thinking about #MeToo movement. What a mess! It has become really dangerous to be a white man in the West.
There are many cases supporting my thoughts. One had to live more than 40 years to come to such conclusions.
If you are a woman and reading this. Maybe it is time to think over your attitude to life, to other people and show kindness rather than stupidity caused by the sickness "bitch".