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Thread: look who the real closed minded people are at TLC...

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KeithL
1455 posts

30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:41 am

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting KeithL:

If freedom of choice is sexist than, yes, I am sexist.

Sorry Keith, but on the one hand you say we should have choice and on the other you say you support traditional family "values". Frankly, listening to a man who says that he supports the traditional family, with mother at home, cooking and looking after the children, is stomach churning.

Yes, I support the nuclear family. Ultimtaely, that is what is going to work for me. This is my CHOICE.
But never did I say this is how everyone should live. As I have said for the millionth time, I support any womans´s right to live and raise her family in the way she sees fit.
If you don´t want to be a stay at home mom (or a mom at all), thats your business. But there is no need to ridicule women who also prefer this lifestyle.

Thread: look who the real closed minded people are at TLC...

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KeithL
1455 posts

30 Jul 2008 Wed 11:31 am

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting KeithL:

And I have been criticised for my views as close-minded and hypocritical. All of you who think you are free thinkers are only tolerent of people who think like you. How exactly is that liberal???

Maybe you donÂ´t see that some of your comments are a little sexist?

EVERYONE thinks they are free thinkers - have you ever met someone who says "I am very close minded"

Unfortunately we are unable to see ourselves as others do.

If freedom of choice is sexist than, yes, I am sexist.

Thread: look who the real closed minded people are at TLC...

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KeithL
1455 posts

30 Jul 2008 Wed 06:12 am

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

30 Jul 2008 Wed 05:56 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Look, there is a simple logic here:
If a woman does not work she wont be as independant as a man.
if a man desire a type of woman who will be a house wife only, he is not strong enough handle the other type of woman and not prepared for the equality.

This is exactly the type of nonsensical judgementalism I´m talking about. If the greatest role a woman wants to play in her life is a mother and wife, don´t look down on her...
What is more important in life than taking this gift from God and raising it to be an honest, worthy citizen of the world???

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

30 Jul 2008 Wed 05:53 am

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

You and Alameda are glamourising "middle class values" which never existed in the lower and upper classes and were a hypocracy. Your middle class values bred back street abortionists, complete ostricising of family members and putting "what people think" before your own family.

By any definition, I grew up lower class economically. Right and wrong is not defined by dollar signs. I will always think exactly the way I thought when I was the oldest child of an immigrant family no matter how much money I have. If values don´t exist than my whole life is a hypocracy...

Thread: Interent Porn ?????

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KeithL
1455 posts

29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:52 pm

I´m not going to argue for "or against" the merits of porn. But I think gereralizing about women´s attitudes on porn is similar to saying women don´t want sex as much as men. I have found my fair share of woman who have been far more "open-minded" in sex that I might be. I do believe there are women out there who do enjoy having their sex video-taped for the excitement (isn´t this porn?). But I do agree with you Catwoman that far too many wpmen in porn are probably in a horrible lifestyles, (drugs, prostitution, etc.)

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:39 pm

Quoting mylo:

Hey I have Little House on the prairie, the Â´uncut versionÂ´ can send if you like?

Yes, now you know the real reason Mary went blind!!!

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:12 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting KeithL:

read my posts. I have always said women have the right for self determination of their lives. But really, I think your put down of Alemeda using the waltonÂ´s example shows some contempt for women that choose to stay home and raise their children. I can only speak for myself, but I think most men who can financially afford it would want to marry a woman with "WaltonÂ´s ethics".
Alemeda shared a story of her upbringing. Did it need to be belittled???

Please dont keep your "WaltonÂ´s Ethics" - a sugary unreal account of family life geared EXACTLY to provoke nostalgia for a time which NEVER EXISTED.

Perhaps "Little House on the Prairie" suits you too? The actor who played the father took it as seriously as you and tried to live his life in a similar way - becoming a dictatorial, wife beating, moralistic bully.

I disagree. There are plenty of men out there who support their families, spend significant time with their children and are faithful to their wives...Its not a hard formula...

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:11 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

What is your opinion on all the wealthy in this world Keith? They present a wonderful picture of the "nuclear family" you worship and yet farm their children out to nannies and often boarding schools.

Is this acceptable only because they do not use government money?

My personal choice would be no. I want to raise my children with my wife without the help of a nanny or boarding school. If I can be judgemental for a moment, I think that is lazy and selfish parenting...

Thread: Two thirds of young women in Turkey sit at home

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KeithL
1455 posts

29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:07 pm

read my posts. I have always said women have the right for self determination of their lives. But really, I think your put down of Alemeda using the walton´s example shows some contempt for women that choose to stay home and raise their children. I can only speak for myself, but I think most men who can financially afford it would want to marry a woman with "Walton´s ethics".
Alemeda shared a story of her upbringing. Did it need to be belittled???

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