there r planty victoms of damn magazine programs,shes must be one of em,to be famous on wrong and easy ways musn't be easy

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I don't understand the sizing system you're using (is there some kind of converter anywhere?) but I understand what you're saying, except in my case it's the other way around. When I'm in Turkey people constantly tell me I'm too skinny yadda yadda but in Denmark my family tells me I shouldn't eat too much, watch out you don't get fat etc. Mostly it doesn't affect me because it's obvious that the only person who can judge you is yourself. If you feel comfortable in your own skin there's nothing people should tell you. Unfortunately it does affect me sometimes but I'm trying to learn how to laugh about it.

I think a size 10 is a European 38./.but I could be wrong..

so thats a size 8 in the UK, a European 36 :-S

But is anyone perfect? I dont think so, no one is ever completely happy with they have got, hair, eyes, body shape, weight, legs, etc etc and then there is the mind......................

I recently went from UK size 8 to 6 but im still fat hehe if this is size 6 then id like to be a 4 please.. wow then id be US 0... how cool

First of all let me say that average size for women in the UK is a 14.Now most people on this discussion are saying they are around size 10 which quite alot smaller than the average.I am not skinny and i never will be however i am not particularly over weight either.I am trying to eat a balanced diet and do some more exercise.This is because i want to and not because i feel pressure to.It makes me so sad to see women on here talking about themselves as fat when in fact they are probably under weight and as we all know no man likes a super skinny woman because whats the point of being a woman if you don't have curves in the right places.My fiance says he prefers a woman with 'a bit of meat on her bones' haha i guess what he is saying is that to have a womanly figure is sexy and a good thing.Furthermore i know what its like to be told by certain people in Turkey that they wish i would lose a bit of weight because they feel then i would be perfect.But the truth is how is any woman ever expected to be smaller when everwhere she goes she is being fed more and more food by every relative she meets.
Having said all that i think its important to remember its how we feel about ourselves that is important not how someone else tells us they would like us to be.I feel they would be better spending their time and energy on improving and learning about themselves rather than worrying about how many pounds another person clocks up when they stand on the scales in the morning.

I would also like to pose another question to everyone generally :

What do you think is general consensus in Turkey about what is the 'right' weight to be? i mean most of the girls one can see walking around Turkey are quite small to UK or US standards of average dress size as i mentioned in my previous post average size in the UK is 14.

For example would a girl size 14 be considered fat in turkey?

i suppose it depends which group of people you are asking and i have read somewhere that it is seen by older people in turkish society that to be a bit heavier is an attractive feature...would that be correct in your views?

Lass - tell them all to take a running jump. If your health is good then your weight unless you fall into the obsese scale on the BMI chart is your own decision and lifes for living not listening to picky people who have to have someone to pick on to make their own life happy.

While the younger generation in Turkey tends to be thin - just wait till the horomones of menopause and the child bearing years catch up with them. At a size UK 16 and 5"4" (Im very short in my country) at 60 I am much taller than my Turkish counterparts who are all about 5" but weigh a lot less - but still have similar measurements. Im just a solid style of person

Body shapes tend to change with diet. I grew up in a country with a tendancy to eat lots of red meat and our population is basically pear shaped - big hips and bust. We have been well fed for generations and thats the way nature has rewarded us!. Turks have for generations lived on a different diet and have a different shape - usually no hips, and my generation is quite short. The next generation are getting taller but still very rarely do you see a woman of 5"8 or more which my 90 year old mother still is.

Just be confident in your own body and tell them to go jump (politely of course).

my housemate is skinnier than me and thinks she's fat and i'm skinny. i'm a size 8.

i've told her many times that she doesn't need to lose anymore weight at all. but she's on this mission to reach a particular "goal weight".

because not just measurements count.......

"An hourglass figure has long been perceived to be the ideal figure for a woman to have.
But New York University researchers have found that to be found attractive, a woman had to move in a feminine way - swaying her hips.
Men, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences paper found, were more attractive if they moved with a "shoulder swagger".
The waist-hip ratio has long been thought to be key to Western perceptions of attractiveness, with a small waist and bigger hips the ideal combination.
Marilyn Monroe, and now Beyonce and Jennifer Lopez are famous examples of women with that figure.
Its popularity may be down to media images, or because Western women do not need to have strong and muscular bodies in order to carry out manual labour, unlike women in developing countries.
But the US research suggests they would never have achieved their sex symbol status if they did not move in the right way.
The team carried out a series of studies involving over 700 participants who were shown a variety of animations and videos of people moving.
Some showed shadow figures, where it was not possible to see if it was a man or a woman, while others obviously showed a man or a woman.
No matter which format was being used, the participants rated women or "female" figures as more attractive if their hips swayed as they walked, while men were more attractive if they had the characteristic shoulder movement.
The research also confirmed the waist-hip ratio assumption, with women's attractiveness being rated higher if their waist-hip ratio was small and men's being higher if their ratio was large.
But Kerri Johnson and Louis Tassinary who led the research, say their work shows attractiveness is not as simple as the difference between two measurements.
Writing in PNAS, the researchers said: "The body's shape and motion provoke basic social perceptions, biological sex and gender - ie masculinity or femininity respectively.
"The compatibility of these basic precepts predicts perceived attractiveness."
The team say their findings only apply to Western cultures, and other societies will judge attractiveness depending on their most prized feminine and masculine traits.
Dr George Fieldman, principal lecturer in psychology at Buckinghamshire Chilterns University College said: "This is quite plausible.
"It's the movement which attracts, and not just the waist-hip ratio per se."
He added: "It would be interesting to see what the ideal combination of measurements and wiggle is." "

from BBC News, 2007/03/13

yeah that was a quote that really upset me too robyn.