Quoting Trudy:

You (anyone) are not a silly girl because you fall in love. That's only human. To me, you are silly if you don't think of consequences of a 'relationship' with someone you hardly know, who lives thousands of kilometres away and/or you even can't communicate with - see all translations. If you think of marrying someone you've only met twice for just a week (or less!) during a vacation, if you lend money, if you don't take precautions against diseases and pregnancy and more examples of that kind of behaviour.

And believe me, I've seen it all, I made my mistakes too - been there, got the T-shirt [(c)Aenigma ].

Quoting izah:

You misunderstand the meaning of my message. If you wan't to discuss what you post here you could better post it at Pam Coo's thread.
I'd like to hear from others what's in the subject:
"Why do European girls love Turkish man?"
Anybody?

Quoting izah:

You misunderstand the meaning of my message. If you wan't to discuss what you post here you could better post it at Pam Coo's thread.
I'd like to hear from others what's in the subject:
"Why do European girls love Turkish man?"
Anybody?

Quoting thehandsom:

Because we are hairy?

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Trudy: Quoting thehandsom: Because we are hairy? Yikes! Where is the razor?

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting Trudy: Quoting thehandsom: Because we are hairy? Yikes! Where is the razor? A little hair is nice, Trudy!! As long as it is growing in appropriate places.....ie..NOT THE BACK or EARS!!

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Trudy: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting Trudy: Quoting thehandsom: Because we are hairy? Yikes! Where is the razor? A little hair is nice, Trudy!! As long as it is growing in appropriate places.....ie..NOT THE BACK or EARS!! Sorry, difference in taste.

Quoting izah:

I donot understand what hairiness has to do with the topic...?

Quoting izah:

I donot understand what hairiness has to do with the topic...?

Quoting Leelu:

are you saying we have hijacked the thread? ..
lets put it back on track then.

Quoting izah:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Well i am about out of my country for about more than 1 month... actually yeap.. europa is about just do their business... after the work hours... you cant find anyone in the company...

Quoting izah:

I donot understand what hairiness has to do with the topic...?

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting femme_fatal:

and women do love LOVE stories.
cheers

Quoting femme_fatal:

the warm bath is a dream and the cold world is the reality.

why do european women love turkish boys?
i think most of those women had no luck in their cold world, therefore they go on a cheap hunting (considering turkey is pretty cheap and pleasant, tourist-oriented place to holiday). whenever you come you will always find a male falling in love with you no matter you're ugly or old or stupid, what matters is you are a foreign, preferrably from the west or any other wealthy country.
why do european women love turkish boys?
turkish boys promise european women: all the stars on the sky, the sun and the moon, all the songs all the love stories and all the blah-blah. and women do love LOVE stories.
cheers

Quoting KeithL:

I agree with deli 100%. My experience is the same, but reversed. I was planning on working in Turkey only 2 years. But life does end after work in the states also. The streets in America are boring. Everyone is isolated in their cars. My friends and family back home think I'm making a huge mistake by staying so long. But really, my 6 years in Istanbul have been some of the best of my life. I will be deeply saddened when the day comes (sooner than later) that I will go back to Minneapolis for good. But I will take back with me some of the best memories of my life.

Quoting KeithL:

I agree with deli 100%. My experience is the same, but reversed. I was planning on working in Turkey only 2 years. But life does end after work in the states also. The streets in America are boring. Everyone is isolated in their cars. My friends and family back home think I'm making a huge mistake by staying so long. But really, my 6 years in Istanbul have been some of the best of my life. I will be deeply saddened when the day comes (sooner than later) that I will go back to Minneapolis for good. But I will take back with me some of the best memories of my life.

Quoting teaschip1:

Your life is what you make of it. I'm in America and it's never boring for me. Maybe you need to try a different city in America. How about LA, Chicago or New York? I'm sure you will see plenty of action in any of these cities. Just make sure you don't carry your wallet on you. Just teasing, I tend to feel safe in any city in the U.S.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

It is not about where one comes from, it is just what the availability is and what you are looking for

Quoting SuiGeneris:

well actually i think it would be different than here if i was in amsterdam

Quoting Deli_kizin:

If you love dark eyes you might as well love all the men from Spain to China, and if you like hairy, you can find them in Maghreb as well. Warm blood, you can find in Italy too. A rich cultural background? Take a greek or a mongol. If you love drinking tea in a special way, they drink tea in a special way in the south of brazil too.

I dont believe there to be a specific answer to your question, İzah. When I fell in love with Kadir, I had no 'real' knowledge about Turkey and its culture. I fell for who he was, most probably shaped through the culture, but still the person he is.
- I like the things from the Turkish culture and have developed a deep love for the country and its language, even that I started studying it at university, and even if, Allah korusun, Kadir and I would ever split up, I would continue my studies. But this love has come after I had already fallen for the man.

It is hard to seperate character from cultural background, but in the end, people choose their own things from their culture.

Quoting Trudy:

So it's all economics? Demand and supply?

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting izah:

Some searches of the internet teach us it happens a lot more than e.g. with spanish boys.

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Maybe this could explain the 'large' numbers?

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting femme_fatal: and women do love LOVE stories. cheers are you included in this category? maybe thats what you need also hahahaha

Quoting izah:

You ARE a woman, aren't you?

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

you are not the first.
many people from middle east ask this question

Quoting izah:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting izah: You ARE a woman, aren't you? a good example of education, btw

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting femme_fatal: and women do love LOVE stories. cheers are you included in this category? maybe thats what you need also hahahaha

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

but hmm its up to all... are you western? and wealthy?

Quoting Deli_kizin:

If you love dark eyes you might as well love all the men from Spain to China, and if you like hairy, you can find them in Maghreb as well. Warm blood, you can find in Italy too. A rich cultural background? Take a greek or a mongol. If you love drinking tea in a special way, they drink tea in a special way in the south of brazil too.

I dont believe there to be a specific answer to your question, İzah. When I fell in love with Kadir, I had no 'real' knowledge about Turkey and its culture. I fell for who he was, most probably shaped through the culture, but still the person he is.
- I like the things from the Turkish culture and have developed a deep love for the country and its language, even that I started studying it at university, and even if, Allah korusun, Kadir and I would ever split up, I would continue my studies. But this love has come after I had already fallen for the man.

It is hard to seperate character from cultural background, but in the end, people choose their own things from their culture.

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

the warm bath is a dream and the cold world is the reality.

why do european women love turkish boys?
i think most of those women had no luck in their cold world, therefore they go on a cheap hunting (considering turkey is pretty cheap and pleasant, tourist-oriented place to holiday). whenever you come you will always find a male falling in love with you no matter you're ugly or old or stupid, what matters is you are a foreign, preferrably from the west or any other wealthy country.
why do european women love turkish boys?
turkish boys promise european women: all the stars on the sky, the sun and the moon, all the songs all the love stories and all the blah-blah. and women do love LOVE stories.
cheers

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SuiGeneris: but hmm its up to all... are you western? and wealthy?

Quoting Leelu:

Yup, I'm broke and poor, missing my 2 front teeth and am ugly ..

Quoting elham:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting portokal:

And what about fairytales? Cinderella, Sleeping beauty, so on?
These are archetypes. Even western ones.
So the need for sun and moon exist, a nice talk about it is always welcomed.
It is very important though to make shure that the storyteller has indeed the will and abilities to get that moon down for you.

Quoting izah:

Quoting elham:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SuiGeneris: but hmm its up to all... are you western? and wealthy? oh god! i knew you were all broke and poor? and maybe ugly? but what can we do... maybe i can sort out a few papers story for you... eh for this conditions this story

Quoting izah:

May I ask what's the point of changing lots of serious forum discussions in funny chats? Why not start a special Chat-tread for that?

Quoting izah:

May I ask what's the point of changing lots of serious forum discussions in funny chats? Why not start a special Chat-tread for that?

Quoting femme_fatal:

the warm bath is a dream and the cold world is the reality.

why do european women love turkish boys?
i think most of those women had no luck in their cold world, therefore they go on a cheap hunting (considering turkey is pretty cheap and pleasant, tourist-oriented place to holiday). whenever you come you will always find a male falling in love with you no matter you're ugly or old or stupid, what matters is you are a foreign, preferrably from the west or any other wealthy country.
why do european women love turkish boys?
turkish boys promise european women: all the stars on the sky, the sun and the moon, all the songs all the love stories and all the blah-blah. and women do love LOVE stories.
cheers

Quoting caliptrix:

they generally miss the protecting point.

Quoting izah:

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Hmm,
a nice discussion,
what we say is;
aşk aka da konar oka da.

Quoting izah:

the possesiveness. I noticed people differ on this. Thats what I explained above. In Holland society assumes it's always a bad thing. But lots of people (at least women) just don't agree. Like me. And others who have experienced the possesiveness of a turkish lover and not disliking it. I agree I have an ambivalent feeling about it, but NOT just a bad feeling. There's something good in it for me (what I miss in the west).

Quoting AEnigma III:

Teen forum crap - I can see why you created a special "chat" thread Izah - the subject is SO IMPORTANT...

Quoting teaschip1:

Sorry, I have read so many of these posts and trying not to offend anyone. I don't really think there is a certain quality that makes a Turk more special or appealing to European women or any other women around the world. Everyone has their own identity and personality. Some are kind, gentle, caring and thoughtful, while others are the complete opposite. I tend to think for women/girls who are on their holiday who meet Turks, it's a new challenge something different than their same culture etc.. Men are men no matter where they live, what culture or religion they are. This just so happens to be a Turkish site, so of course you have women here who are attracted to Turks. Go to an Italian site, you were probably find the same topic. "Why do women love Italians".

Quoting izah:

You misunderstand the meaning of my message. If you wan't to discuss what you post here you could better post it at Pam Coo's thread.
I'd like to hear from others what's in the subject:
"Why do European girls love Turkish man?"
Anybody?

Quoting caliptrix:

I have some ideas but sure may look funny and unrealistic.

1. Because Turkish boys find European gilrs more desirable and try to do their best for them instead of for Turkish girls.

2. -I hope Europeans won' be offended- European moral values are different from Europeans. Western world want their children more "open minded" and they generally miss the protecting point. Protect from all badnesses of social life. For example, bad addictions cigarette, alcohol, drugs etc. are much more common in Europe, I think it is because of that idea: "being open minded". It generally doesn't work here. We are conservative even though we don't have conservative ideas. And this conservatism makes us pay attention of relations with the people, especially about special relations like with the girlfriends.

I have never been in outside of Turkey but as far as I know from the movies from all over the world -especially Hollywood and European cinema-, this is the most important thing what girls want and boys never want: marry

For us, one of the most important thing is family, and without a marriage, you cannot be a real family. Being together without marriage is a sin according to the belief and also very bad thing for tranditional ideas. When I think and compare these all:

Turkish boys directly wants the girls from the other countries and they show their warm part, behave more sincerely, try to be more kind. Turkish boy always consider that at the end of the story, there will generally be a marriage. And for that reason, this relation must be some more serious (not a one-night-love or short term like in holywood or european movies generally). And when you add the points of the girls wish about the love as generally, this makes the Turkish boys more valued.

I am not sure, as I said this may sound some unrealistic. But day by day, I am getting to accept this stronglier.

Quoting izah:

That's the protactiveness I mean

Turkeys lover is a different saying of turkish boyfriend.

But your last remark interests me the most: the possesiveness. I noticed people differ on this. Thats what I explained above. In Holland society assumes it's always a bad thing. But lots of people (at least women) just don't agree. Like me. And others who have experienced the possesiveness of a turkish lover and not disliking it. I agree I have an ambivalent feeling about it, but NOT just a bad feeling. There's something good in it for me (what I miss in the west).

p.s It would be easier to talk with you if you let me know what cultures you're familiar with, born/grown up in and (have been) living in...?

Quoting AEnigma III:

Mostly because they are easy for casual sex and pay us lots of compliments.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Mostly because they are easy for casual sex and pay us lots of compliments.

Quoting izah:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Teen forum crap - I can see why you created a special "chat" thread Izah - the subject is SO IMPORTANT...

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting izah:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting libralady:

I personally think that possessiveness and jealousy are big problems in a relationship, what ever the country of origin and something I will never understand! Why have you just quoted Holland? Possessiveness and jealousy are personality traits which maybe more prevalent in some countries than others. Some people think you can't have love with out either of the two, but I believe you can't have love with them!

Quoting KeithL:

I think it comes down to this...
Not all women, but some women enjoy the über attention.
I know of no men in the world as persistent as turkish guys. A turkish guy will hit on 10 women a day. Or, he will hit on the same woman 10 times. A foreign girl, she comes to turkey, and she is not used to being looked at so much. Or she is not used to being approached so much. AND this flatters her. So evntually, whether its the 50th guy that has approached her, or its the same guy the 50th time, eventually she wears down and says yes....

Quoting KeithL:

I've learned that turkish women don't like the methods of turkish men....

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Seeker_M:

Because we give worth to women and care about them very much..Maybe there are lots of men like us in the world but we are really sincerely so women interested in with us..Maybe we are very naughty generally but in the end we are protective also...

Quoting catwoman:

Because... people are normally attracted to foreigners, it's in our genes! We want to mix and mingle our genes to increase variation.

Quoting catwoman:

Because... people are normally attracted to foreigners, it's in our genes! We want to mix and mingle our genes to increase variation.

Quoting catwoman:

Because... people are normally attracted to foreigners, it's in our genes! We want to mix and mingle our genes to increase variation.

Quoting portokal:

Actually why is this topic about european GIRLS loving turkish MEN? :-S

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting turquoise:

yeah how about turkish/europan lesbians and gays?

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Offfffffff don't get your knickers in a twist Turq! I am NOT saying they do prefer blondes, I was referring to a previous thread called "why do turkish men love european blondes" blah blah

Calm down

Quoting turquoise:

how come you know that im wearing knickers?

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting portokal: Actually why is this topic about european GIRLS loving turkish MEN? :-S Well it makes a change from the 57485930 million topics we had here entitled "why do Turkish men love european/blonde/blah blah women".... However, if you want we can have one called "why do Turkish girls love European girls"??? or...why do Turkish men love European Men?

Quoting turquoise:

Quoting portokal: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting portokal: Actually why is this topic about european GIRLS loving turkish MEN? :-S Well it makes a change from the 57485930 million topics we had here entitled "why do Turkish men love european/blonde/blah blah women".... However, if you want we can have one called "why do Turkish girls love European girls"??? or...why do Turkish men love European Men? well i was just saying why is this about girls and men? it should be boys... or women...

Quoting portokal:

Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting portokal: Actually why is this topic about european GIRLS loving turkish MEN? :-S Well it makes a change from the 57485930 million topics we had here entitled "why do Turkish men love european/blonde/blah blah women".... However, if you want we can have one called "why do Turkish girls love European girls"??? or...why do Turkish men love European Men? well i was just saying why is this about girls and men? it should be boys... or women... you mean (young) turkish boys and (old)europan women? offf im such a silly billy today

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Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad?

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Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad? what does it mean?... euh... former wife of sugar daddy? but i think it depends on your taste on sweets

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Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad? what does it mean?... euh... former wife of sugar daddy? but i think it depends on your taste on sweets im wondering if its the same thing called 'milk mummy' in turkish..

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Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad? what does it mean?... euh... former wife of sugar daddy? but i think it depends on your taste on sweets im wondering if its the same thing called 'milk mummy' in turkish.. hmmm i don't know... what does milk mummy means? whose former wife is she?

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Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad? what does it mean?... euh... former wife of sugar daddy? but i think it depends on your taste on sweets im wondering if its the same thing called 'milk mummy' in turkish.. hmmm i don't know... what does milk mummy means? whose former wife is she? she is who was breast feeding you after ur mom ran out of the milk

Quoting turquoise:

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Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: sugar mummy huh? what does that mean? something bad? what does it mean?... euh... former wife of sugar daddy? but i think it depends on your taste on sweets im wondering if its the same thing called 'milk mummy' in turkish.. hmmm i don't know... what does milk mummy means? whose former wife is she? she is who was breast feeding you after ur mom ran out of the milk but i did not have milk mummy! not too bad,at least u still have the chance to be a milk mummy

Quoting turquoise:

well,find him then

Quoting catwoman:

I think what she meant by sugar mommy was the same as sugar daddy, just switched positions. The woman supports financially the man for sexual benefits.

Quoting portokal:

sad as it might be, yes.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting turquoise:

no thanks im ok

Quoting portokal:

Still, i wonder what milk mummy means...

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting catwoman: Quoting turquoise: no thanks im ok Don't ever say no, you never know what the future might bring! Better stay in shape Turq and get your facial today!

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting portokal:

Best story i ever heard in a long time!
But i think you misunderstood a little...

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting portokal: Quoting catwoman: Quoting turquoise: no thanks im ok Don't ever say no, you never know what the future might bring! Better stay in shape Turq and get your facial today!

Quoting portokal:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting turquoise:

thankss but i dont think that i need a breast feeding

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting turquoise: thankss but i dont think that i need a breast feeding Yeah, you use a bottle to feed

Quoting turquoise:

ahahahahhahalove ur comments but u made hungry,ok wheres my bottleeeeeeeeeeee

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting turquoise:

whoeva's tuwn it is,please huwwy up,i cant wait like dat anymow

Quoting portokal:

Quoting catwoman: Quoting portokal: Best story i ever heard in a long time! But i think you misunderstood a little... Turq, did I misunderstand?

Quoting turquoise:

Quoting portokal: Quoting catwoman: Quoting portokal: Best story i ever heard in a long time! But i think you misunderstood a little... Turq, did I misunderstand? Now, did she misunderstand, Turk?

Quoting portokal:

Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting catwoman: Quoting portokal: Best story i ever heard in a long time! But i think you misunderstood a little... Turq, did I misunderstand? Now, did she misunderstand, Turk? YES! SHE misundewstooooooodd!

Quoting turquoise:

Quoting portokal: Quoting turquoise: Quoting portokal: Quoting catwoman: Quoting portokal: Best story i ever heard in a long time! But i think you misunderstood a little... Turq, did I misunderstand? Now, did she misunderstand, Turk? YES! SHE misundewstooooooodd! this world is tough nowadays... hard to survive...

Quoting turquoise:

hey babe! ummm i f'ink i had enuff milk lately,ummmmmm now woud ya like ummmmmmm....

Quoting catwoman:

Turq gone wild...!

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting portokal:

ok.
this should do...

Quoting catwoman:

Turq gone wild...!

Quoting portokal:

OMG you're growing up, aren't you???

Quoting AEnigma III:

Turk! Nursey is here with your sedative

Quoting turquoise:

Quoting portokal: