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Thread: remembering Greeks of Istanbul

151.       sophie
2712 posts
 10 Jan 2007 Wed 10:48 am

Dear metehan2001,

You say that “If you go to the below WEB PAGE address, you will see how Greeks had tortured and tyrannized Turkish people, before 1955 Istanbul incidents” but the events described there, are referring to the year 1963 and after (however, for what its worth, know that I feel ashamed as a Greek to read this info).

You say that this book is written by a Greek nationalist and thus it can’t be objective. Is this information also partial? Wikipedia

Finally, you suggest that we should all be objective. I know I am. Can you be?

I’ve been trying to find an explanation (not today but for quite sometime now) for the events of September 1955, something that would sustain this tragedy, but I have come up with nothing.

There was only a bomb explosion in Ataturk’s house in Selanik, which bomb – as it was proved later – was put there by a Turk, who was following orders from the Turkish government. I’m not blaming the people who committed these acts of violence. They didn’t know. Your authorities are the ones to blame.

I have found reasonable excuses for every other dark incident in the history of Greece and Turkey. And in fact, I always tend to put the blame on us, Greeks. We took what we deserved in 1922, maybe the expulsion of the Greek minority in 1964 was justified (!?) and maybe we forced our luck too later in Cyprus and so on (although all these subjects are under discussion). But this particular event was absolutely unjustified and unfair.

Admitting the mistakes that our own countries have made, doesn’t make us traitors. It only means that we are healthy minded persons, who want to understand the motives and the reasons, follow the events, count the losses and finally be able to come to an objective conclusion, which will help us avoid the same mistakes in the future. Burying the hatred without analyzing it, can only work temporarily. One day though, it will dig its way out again and the same mistakes will be repeated.



Thread: Special friends

152.       sophie
2712 posts
 10 Jan 2007 Wed 01:27 am

Quoting Aslan:

...hehe, we are champs when it comes to being true bitches!

...and for new citizens of TC that get confused by our attitude as proud bitches, I strongly recommend the site for every true bitch!



I could even leave the hotturtles.com for this site
Hey btw, aslan and twinny dear, you are the best. These are for you lol lol



Thread: What are your favorite books?

153.       sophie
2712 posts
 10 Jan 2007 Wed 12:47 am

You'll find many interesting suggestions here



Thread: remembering Greeks of Istanbul

154.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 11:59 pm

One of too many black pages in the history of these two nations, but probably the most unfair of all. Historical sources say that the story of a bomb explosion in Ataturk's house in Thessaloniki, was in the Turkish newspapers before the bomb even exploaded!!! This tells a lot about who was really responsible and what was the aim behind the actions.
I wont comment any further. Kadersokak's post says it all.




"And yet, despite this Turkish record of enmity against Greeks and Greece, a behavior bordering on perpetual war, Greece persists in being friendly to Turkey, a paradox that Vryonis fails to address..."



Thread: Special friends

155.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 04:18 pm

Quoting gezbelle:

hey, i have an advertisement on my screen for "instant silver cleaning: no rubbing or polishing, etc."



Nahhhh Im the traditional type. Like to do my jobs using the good old methods



Thread: Special friends

156.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 04:14 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

oh dont tell me you are dropping lessons...
tuh! you have just started to learn lol



Dropping? Me? No way!
I just suddenly realized that pool is too exciting for me. I should get back to my householding. In fact im thinking to polish the candlesticks! lol lol



Thread: Special friends

157.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 04:04 pm

Quoting kai:

Also it seems you lot have no trouble keeping your 'houses' very well kept ....'polishing the silver, watering the grass, cleaning the pipes, oiling the engine, stocking the fire



Aaaaa householding goes always first!

(btw...loved that version with the...candlesticks )



Thread: Special friends

158.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 03:44 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

do they look like what you were holding?



Errrrmmmm...not exactly
Ok ok end of discussion! Polishing the silver was much more innocent than this!



Thread: I would like this

159.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 03:31 pm

Quoting libralady:

My opinion on this is this:
Unless of course that is what you want. Be more wary when handing out your email address.



Exactly what I was thinking



Thread: Special friends

160.       sophie
2712 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 03:25 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

If you start to hold "right" stick...
i can go on to lesson 2 which is aiming the ball to shoot



Oh you pervert! lol lol lol



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