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Thread: Gezi Songs

471.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2013 Fri 10:53 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4rLzagR5DA

Bogazici caz korosu -Capulcumusun vay vay

(Bosphorus university Jazz Choir)



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

472.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2013 Fri 02:07 am

 

Quoting Kelowna

Do you think he will get heavy handed and go in and injure more people?

 

I think Erdogan had a serious blow to his leadership. The credibility he has built in the west so far, gone away so fast. Though he is a kind of person who would not like taking advice, he would not want to lose it all in one incident. He has to back off and for the sake of being in power he will back off.. The times are different in this century. With this speed of communication and usage of social media, people are much more closer and solidarity for the right cause is greater.



Thread: Gezi Songs

473.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 11:25 pm

New York´lu Capulcular Simdi Istanbul şu anda Olmak Vardi...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4DPOqt81jU&feature=share

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Thread: Gezi Park and how Erdogan working with Ocalan

474.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 11:18 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

i am not talking about kurds. i have no problem with them and i recommend none should have.

the problem begins when you see the terrorism supporters and kurds are the same thing. fight for what, what kind of fight it is. if their leader was innocent, why you have been keeping him in prison. if he was guilty, making propaganda of him and following his footsteps should not be a right action. kurds speak and use their language like any language. terrorism is totally different subject and must be differenciated. if you lost one of your relatives by a random suicide bomber sent by pkk i think you would think different and differenciate kurds and pkk supporters.

 

Well unfortunately, we have all been misguided about this terrorism things. Now, the state came to the conclusion that ´the state has made mistakes and the terrorism was the result of those mistakes. PKK was the result of our own doing.. You say Kurds are free to use the language etc but it was not when PKK started fighting.. If Kurds are free to speak their own language today, they wont thank to the state which was forced to give in the demands. We have to realise the fact that Kurds did not have basic rights and they had some of those rights after ´something´ and that something is not our compassion. Basically we have to make peace with them because we could not defeat them. And you make the peace with the people you have been fighting. Those people are represented by BDP/PKK/Ocalan. That is the reality. Accepting this reality will prevent people get killed in the future.



Edited (6/13/2013) by thehandsom



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

475.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 10:55 pm

Istanbul governor calls moms to ´call their children home´. Moms come to Gezi Parkı instead.

 

EU parliament urges Turkey to avoid violence

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=111046

 

and our PM, slams European Parliament´s motion on Gezi Park protests

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-06/13/c_132453069.htm

 

 

http://avrupabirligihaberleri.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/european-parliament-democracy-in-turkey-resolution-13-june-2013.pdf (European Parliament´s resolution)

 



Edited (6/13/2013) by thehandsom [resolution was added]

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Thread: Gezi Songs

476.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 07:44 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrkXXMRSIw

What a lovely song..

 Çok sükür bugünü de gördüm ölsem de gam yemem gayrinin resmi



Thread: Gezi Songs

477.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jun 2013 Wed 11:21 pm

Since the begining of entire Taksim-Gezi event, because it was the right cause and nobody had any doubts about  the rightness of the protesters, the solidarity in Turkey and abroad have been immense.. 

The support ranged from Bruce Wills to Amnesty International, from USA to EU..

Some Turkish singers and some choirs composed some new songs just for #occupygezi, some changed the lyrics of the well known songs.

Here are some of them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-kbuS-anD4 (tencere tava havasi)

* response to Erdogan´s comments about protestors : “Tencere tava, hep aynı hava”-pots and pans, same old tune

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Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

478.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jun 2013 Wed 11:03 pm

Turkey protests: Ruling AK party may hold vote on park..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22882460

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/riot-police-overwhelm-protesters-occupying-istanbuls-taksim-square-and-gezi-park/2013/06/11/30efe674-d2f5-11e2-b3a2-3bf5eb37b9d0_story.html

**

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We still dont know the details.. But the PM held talks with the representetive of the protesters- though some protesters said they dont know those who spoke to the PM- for 5 hours..

Hopefully this may resolve peacefully..

But it seems like it is a serious blow to the pm as his credibility in EU faded away.. (

http://news.yahoo.com/eu-worried-violence-turkey-calls-inquiries-183101191.html

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=110432

)

**ps..did you know that the amount of tear gas used in last 6 days in Istanbul by Turkish government is twice than the tear gas used in 2012 by all 12 EU countries?



Thread: Gezi Park and how Erdogan working with Ocalan

479.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jun 2013 Wed 03:32 pm

I agree about the old style left groups being a nuisance but I dont think Kurds are a problem for the event..

This little turkish article should give you an idea:

http://www.radikal.com.tr/fotogaleri/turkiye/gezi_toparlanmaya_calisiyor-1137286-3

Kurds who support Ocalan, started their traditional dance in Gezi park this morning. Gezi protesters joked about them saying ´they have been fighting for 30 years, 15 days of fighting is nothing for them´

I never thought people who are risking their lives to protect a park would turn their back to Kurds..



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

480.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jun 2013 Wed 02:54 am

Message from Taksim Solidarity:

 

Police violence which stared on the 14th day in Taksim Gezi park, still continuing as of  midnight

Since their incompetently staged and miserably failed provocation game, early in the morning, after the continuation of gas and bomb attack by the police , there were 100s of casualties and among them, many head traumas. All the animals and birds are dying around Taksim because of the intense gas,

Our people, our children who are in Taksim square and Gezi park, continue their resistance, risk their lives, in order to protect their dignity.

We invite the entire world to show their reactions and our people to show their solidarity to stop the police brutality which is carried out by the direct orders of the government .

Taksim Solidarity.

 

In Turkish:

Taksim Gezi Parkı’na 14. günü sabahında başlayan polis şiddeti, gece yarısı itibariyle devam ediyor. 

Sabah saatlerinde polisin acemice senaryolaştırdığı provokasyon oyununun tutmaması üzerine sürdürdüğü gaz bombalı saldırı sonrasında yüzlerce yaralanma, bu yaralılar arasında çok sayıda beyin travması geçiren insanda bulunmaktadır. Yoğun gaz nedeniyle Taksim Meydanı çevresinde tüm hayvanlar ve kuşlar ölmektedir. 

Taksim Meydanında ve Gezi Parkı’nda bulunan insanlarımız, çocuklarımız tüm saldırılara onurlarını korumak için ölümü göze alarak direnmeye devam etmektedir. 

Hükümetin bizzat emriyle yürütülen polis şiddetinin durdurulması için tüm Dünyayı tepki göstermeye, halkımızı desteğe davet ediyoruz. 
Taksim Dayanışması

source:
http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/taksim_dayanismasi_tum_dunyaya_sesleniyoruz-1137234



Edited (6/12/2013) by thehandsom



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