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Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

401.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 04:30 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Keep the crap short.

Do you think Morsi was the last Egyptian hope for religious freedom for all, or not ? 

Your rebellious General probably thinks he is a better Moslem than Morsi. {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

Religious fanatisizm and army coups are not alternatives to achieve democracy.  Both only produce more asses for people to kiss.

You can not be a democrat, if you must chose one, or the other.

{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

He he

Yes cut the crap.

I have never been on generals side and that will never happen.

You can not be a democrat, if you must chose one, or the other.

Yes that is what I was always telling YOU. It took me years to teach you. lol


 



Thread: COUNTING VOTES IN ELECTIONS

402.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 02:21 pm

This is what is called as ´züğürt tesellisi´ 

We asked CHP PM members if there could be a trick in the counting. The anser was NO. The guy explained very well about how the things are counted and what sort of control and check mechanism they have and the opposition party checks..

The whole idea of ´ah we are winning but they are cheating is a LIE and an excuse´

It is another way of blaming everybody and everything for the failure but NOT yourself. 

You are wasting your breath for a thing only uneducated people could believe, but you are Tao  for god´s sake!!



Edited (7/5/2013) by thehandsom



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

403.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 02:16 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

If you are trying to tell us that Egyptians have no freedom of religion anymore, now that Morsi is ousted, you certainly deserve to kiss a lot of asses.

What did Morsi care about religious freedom of non moslems or ateists in Egypt, anyway?

 

If you consider being in favour of democracy MUST have something to do with licking either army boots or someones asses, your tongue will wear out.

Army boot lickers idea of democracy is so attached to the licking that the think  "anybody who supports of democracy got to do with some sort of licking". 

That was what was wrong in the begining : The army interventions can not be in the democracy. (That is why what we had years ago in Turkey was not a democracy. It was just army and bunch of army boot lickers)

 

 



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

404.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 01:28 pm

Anybody who thinks supporting people´s freedom of religion is the same as licking the armyboots can only have nirvana in their dreams.

 Licking of something is  NOT a farz as far as  the democracy is concerned. Even not a sunnet. Just a old habit for some



Thread: Herkese iyi cumalar dilerim

405.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 12:31 pm

Allahumme salli ala muhammed ve âl-i muhammedin ve ala âli seyyidina Muhammed.

Sübhânekellâhümme ve bi hamdik ve tebârekesmük ve teâlâ ceddük (ve celle senâük ) ve lâ ilâhe gayrük.

 

lhamdü lillahi rabb-il alemin. er-rahman ir-rahim. malik-i yevm-id-din. iyya kena´büdü ve iyya kenestain. ihtinas-sirat-el mustakim. sirat-ellezine en´amte aleyhim, gayril magzubi aleyhim, veled-dâlin.

I will add this too:

Kul hüvellâhü ehad. Allâhüssamed. Lem yelid ve lem yûled. Ve lem yekün lehû küfüven ehad.

 

 

===

I think I am beginning to walk over the clouds {#emotions_dlg.angel}



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

406.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 12:28 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

It does not amaze me that abla knows about Muslim Brothers. I think she works for them...

That is what I liked about your question..

 

Though I doubt it, but she might very well do. I would find it interesting if she did . It is better  than army boot licking and uniform  fetishism. 

However, it does not change anything from the knowledge point of view. 

 



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

407.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 10:56 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

I like that !{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

I was right on Abla would be able to give some info about muslim brothers. If you knew anything about them, I would have asked you. But you dont. So thanks to Abla again for the valuable information.

 



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

408.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 01:45 am

 

Quoting Abla

What I have is more like an impression and a feeling that Ikhwan has been unjustly demonized in the Western media. This serves both the anti-Islamic interests of the West (look, they are having a difficulty in calling the coup a coup) and the old autocratic rulers of the Middle East. In Egypt, Ikhwan traditionally represents democracy on the grass-root level. It has given a voice to millions of oppressed people. Among ordinary street men Ikhwan was mainly a charity organization which has established hospitals and social welfare centers as well as helped people to deal with the corrupted authorities in order to get their rights. All this began long before they had any chance to act as an official political force.

 

Muslim Brotherhood had an orphanage in the same house where I used to live in Cairo. To take a child from the street and to give him a home and education is one of the biggest good deeds I can imagine. I have also written about my experience of the Egyptian believers in another thread here:

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_53127, post 10

 

 

The support of the Ikhwan has not come from out of nowhere. They did not distribute rice and corn oil to the poor in the streets just in order just to win the election  -  they had been doing the same for 80 years. Ikhwan was a forbidden political party in Mubarak’s Egypt and its members suffered harsh treatment by the despotic police force. At times the members were arrested in big numbers. Ikhwan were represented in politics and the judicial system but officially only as individuals.

 

I am not sure if it is the ideal situation that a religious party rules any country. Probably not. Mohamed Mursi at least was not able or did not want to unite the whole people. Instead, like your Erdogan he was content with the support of his own voters which is not stateman-like behaviour. This is when the army saw its chance. Don’t tell me Abdelfatah al-Sisi is any more interested in democracy or human rights. What interests the army is the army.

 

What we can’t understand is what a deeply religious country Egypt still is. It is impossible to think of the future of Egypt without a strong influence of the Muslim Brotherhood which in its political agenda is not as strict or scary as militant Islamists. In Egypt, until today the strongest weapon against ignorance, corruption and abuse is religion whether we like it or not. Maybe the influence of Ikhwan will weaken in the future as societies modernise and global influence reaches the slums and outlying villages of the Nile valley but until then it is very annoying that the army tells who is admissible to be chosen the leader of Egypt and who is not.

 

 

Abla

Thank you.. It is a great help to understand the situation for us.



Thread: what caught my eye today

409.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 01:40 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

Cevabın var mı? Yoksa söyle. o da bir cevaptır. Kıvırtma.

 

{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

410.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Jul 2013 Thu 05:18 pm

 

Quoting Abla

I am very sad and bitter about this. The Egyptians did vote for this man. For the first time ever. They organized a campaign, they queued to the polls. The Muslim Brotherhood won it because they had the history, they had the skills and contacts, they were organized. Even if they had been banned from politics for decades they still always acted as a positive force in the society. For instance, when the corrupted administration did not give people what they need the Brotherhood often did.

 

If you say you support democracy you should also accept what it brings.

 

There is no greater power in Egypt than the army. They get the U.S. dollars, they control 40 per cent of businesses. They support Tamarod for their own reasons. During Mursi Egypt has received support from IMF which demands the country to possess of its economical structures and this was written to the new constitution. No one knows the budget of the army and the generals want it that way.

 

There is no greater power in Egypt than the army and there will never be. The demonstrators made this possible. Hosni must be so pleased to see this day. 

 

Go to Ramses Square and look around: things could not be very much worse in the overcrowded city. It is an emergency and a human disaster. Instead of organizing parties in the Tahrir with flags and fireworks  people should go and do their work better. Each one of them.

 

May Allah protect Egypt.

 

Abla you seem to know alot about Muslim Brothers.(Ikhwan?) Why dont you give us some info about them? 



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