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Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

481.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Jun 2013 Tue 06:49 pm

 

Quoting Kelowna

 

 

what do you predict will happen

 

I am not entirely sure but PM is creating a chaos.. He can not continue the way he is behaving.. With every speach he makes, he throws some logs into the fire. I think, these last 15 days will be talked and analysed a lot. I will come back to this later on. 

Some Turkish and some English comments:

https://www.facebook.com/geziparkidirenisi

 

 

 

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Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

482.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Jun 2013 Tue 06:39 pm

PM: No one will get away with it..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/no-one-will-get-away-with-it-turkish-pm-issues-protest-threat-as-riot-police-storm-taksim-square-8653065.html

 

Turkey PM Erdogan warns protesters ´it´s over´

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/10113293/Turkey-PM-Erdogan-warns-protesters-its-over.html

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 No one will get away with it..? I think that includes the PM. 

I think he already lost his presidency (with a presidential system).  



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

483.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Jun 2013 Tue 03:52 pm

Turkish police storm Taksim

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22851765

PM says : Please Finish it.

 

minute by minute storm    http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/gezi_parki_sabaha_poster_baskiniyla_basladi-1137124

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The protesters did not start with PM´s permission and I dont think they will finish with PM´s wish.

PM has to grip this fact.



Thread: what caught my eye today

484.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2013 Mon 11:52 pm

The World Naked Bike Ride took place on Saturday - in protest not against clothes, but against car culture.
The annual event aims to raise awareness of cycling as an environmentally friendly option and takes place in over 50 cities around the world.

Hundreds of bare-bottomed (and/or bare-chested) cyclists took to the roads of London as part of the celebration-slash-protest.

..

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/10/world-naked-bike-ride-day_n_3414958.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

 

They were quite fun actually..

I was in Trafalgar sq when they were passing and at the same time there were some veiled Somailan women protesting something.. First they covered their faces with veils but they managed to have courage later on and they all started clapping. lol

 



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

485.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2013 Mon 10:51 am

 

Quoting Kelowna

Thanks for sharing the truth

 

My pleasure.

Apart from that it is nice to know some people are intrested in what is going on in Turkey and trying to learn more about this extraordinary cultural and politicl breaking point in Turkish history. You are not one of those who posts garbage like ´hiaiaiaia I am going to Turkey/ hiiaaiiiii really, are you?/ohhhhiaiai yes I am´ {#emotions_dlg.lol}

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Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

486.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 11:31 pm

More about this if anybody wants to know what this is all about and how it is all started :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XPBtofVGA

http://subjektif.org/protests-in-turkey-the-timeline-and-what-people-on-the-street-want/

http://www.direngeziparki.com/

http://showdiscontent.com/

http://www.narphotos.net/Story/Thumbnail/occupy-gezi-park/109/

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Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

487.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 07:53 pm

 

Quoting Kelowna

would you say this is the same as in the 70´s or different handsome?

 

It is nothing what so ever  in the 70s of Turkey.It is much more like May 1968 in Paris. Protesters are coming from all parts of the society. They are much more connected with the world- twitter- facebook- and extremely creative. They dont have a political objective and they dont seem to be clear about what they want. But what is clear is that they dont like what they have : A PM who does not respect people´s opinions, rules the country like a dictator, and tries to interfere with people´s lives -make 3 kids, dont drink alcohol etc-

I think what they are doing there in istanbul will be talked alot in the near future.



Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

488.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 05:21 pm

After 12 days : Her yer Taksim, her yer direnis.*

Massive rally

Cities nationwide continued to demonstrate in support of the ongoing protests, but Taksim again became the heart of the movement as thousands gathered for a rally scheduled to take place in the afternoon hours of June 9.

..

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/massive-rally-illuminates-taksim-as-protests-continue-in-turkey.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48505&NewsCatID=341

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But how did Erdogan fall into the same trap? An obvious explanation is simply the arrogance of those who have held power for too long. They ignore advice and demonise and underrate their critics. There is nothing very Turkish in this. The same was true of Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair who, like Erdogan, had each won three election victories and were facing an electorate that blamed them for anything that went wrong.

The parallel should be between Turkey and Western Europe, not between Turkey and Middle East states. ..
Erdogan´s mistakes in dealing with the Taksim Square protests and the failures of Turkish foreign policy are not irretrievable ones. But the weaknesses of the Turkish state and the depth of the political divisions within Turkey are becoming more apparent. The demonstrations are also highlighting failings that had previously been masked by Turkey´s economic success at a time when much of Europe is mired in recession. Such impressions are important because the flow of foreign capital into Turkey depends on a sense that the country is stable compared to its neighbours.

Nightly riots in western Turkey, bombs exploding in the south of the country and the possibility of renewed Kurdish unrest in the east is sapping the belief inside and outside Turkey that the country is still one of the world´s success stories.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/erdogans-mishandling-of-protests-has-exposed-the-myth-of-a-stable-turkey-8650706.html

 

*everywhere is Taksim, everywhere is resistance

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Thread: please translate to turkish

489.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jun 2013 Sat 12:48 pm

I think it is abit naive to think that "police brutality is a normal thing and it happens everywhere".

NO. It does not.

The response from police to the protesters kind of reflects the level of democracy in that country.

Turkish police is changing..They were more brutal years ago. But still long way to catch up.

And trying to cover the police brutality and trying to make it look as ´normal´,  because  ´some people´s nationalistic feeling hurt´ does not help in this case.. In the end, if there is not enough objection to the police brutality, the police will do the same again next time round. 

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Thread: music for wee hours

490.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jun 2013 Sat 02:48 am

MFÖ -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lvbA1hcZNM&list=PL30A9962607054027

 Bu sabah yagmur var Istanbul´da

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5XgJPCf22I&list=PL30A9962607054027

Gullerin icinden canim



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