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my controversial topic ;-)
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 08:56 pm |
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i'd just like to say for the record that i don't actually have a problem with this.just needed something controversial for us to post 
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 08:58 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Capoeira, sounds reasonable and logic. But how much time do you think the complaining stage may take? |
When I take U.S. univeristy students to study in another country we have a short seminar on culture shock so that they go prepared to face it and get past it.
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:01 pm |
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Quoting robyn : i'd just like to say for the record that i don't actually have a problem with this.just needed something controversial for us to post |
I don't have a problem with the complaining itself though I think life will be much more fun if one is not complaining 24/7. But I do have a problem with complainers who after 10 years or more act like they are 'victims'. In my opinion you can always make something of your life, it might not be the dreamlife you always wanted but sitting, waiting and not doing anything yourself doesn't bring you any further, does it?
BTW Robyn, controversial enough, this opinion?
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:06 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting Trudy: Capoeira, sounds reasonable and logic. But how much time do you think the complaining stage may take? |
When I take U.S. univeristy students to study in another country we have a short seminar on culture shock so that they go prepared to face it and get past it. |
Well 1-2 years I can understand but I know here in Holland immigrants who after 30 years still complain! I had a student once from Morocco, he came here when he was 17 and after living here thirty years he still not spoke the language and come to our companyschool. When I asked him why he did not speak Dutch after that long time he said "They did not pay for the school expenses and I had to learn the language in my own time".
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:07 pm |
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New topic? Why? This is fine by me.
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:08 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Well when I wanted to really see the world, I sold everything I had, packed some clothes into a backpack, got a one way ticket to South America. |
Ahhhh my heroine ....I will be doing that on day!
Anyway back on to the actual subject:
Some who are under the age of 18 don't have a choice whether they move to another country because they're parents make the choice for them. So they tend to moan about their new life because they miss their old friends, family or just the simple way of living.
Other than that I don't see a reason for a person to complain why they moved because no one made them move, right?
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:09 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: There is a known and scientifically documented studies on cultural adaptation. And one of the many stages before reaching acceptance of a new cultural environment is the complaining stage. At one point everything that was great becomes horrible and you actually 'hate' it. Everybody who has lived for a length of time in another country, I'm not talking about traveling through although you can experience it with even short trips, experiences this. Some more severely than others and of course some pass through this stage faster and others linger. |
This is interesting Capoeira, thanks. Do you maybe have a link to this study and its sources? I'd like to read more about it.
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:10 pm |
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Quoting Trudy:
New topic? Why? This is fine by me. |
i meant ur point about sitting on ur butt n doing nothing with ur life.then complaining about how bad it is  ..in my words now not urs 
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03 Dec 2006 Sun 09:12 pm |
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Quoting kai: Anyway back on to the actual subject:
Some who are under the age of 18 don't have a choice whether they move to another country because they're parents make the choice for them. So they tend to moan about their new life because they miss their old friends, family or just the simple way of living.
Other than that I don't see a reason for a person to complain why they moved because no one made them move, right? |
No, that's not true. In my classes I have several former refugees. People from Nigeria, Afghanistan, Kurds from Iraq and other countries where it is/was not that nice. They didn't have a real choice as well. But after 10 years or more I think people should stop complaining and MAKE something of their lifes!
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