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Plural / possessive question
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 09:34 pm |
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I just had another lesson of Turkish. I learned about possisive suffixes like 'evim' and 'annem'. Also that kitapları has three meanings: his/her books (kitaplar + ı ), their book (kitap + ları ) and their books (kitap + ları, not twice lar because that's too much).
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me?
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:02 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: I just had another lesson of Turkish. I learned about possisive suffixes like 'evim' and 'annem'. Also that kitapları has three meanings: his/her books (kitaplar + ı ), their book (kitap + ları ) and their books (kitap + ları, not twice lar because that's too much).
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me? |
benim annem=my mother
senin evin=uor house
onun defteri=his/her notebook
bizim kitapimiz= our book
sizin gulumseniz= your smile
onlarin cocuklari= their kid/kids
benim mumlarim= my candles
senin sarkilarin= your songs
onun cantalari= his/her bags
bizim hatiralarimiz= our memories
sizin sorulariniz= your questions
onlarin odevleri= their homework/s
you just have to follow the mwaning, the vowel harmony and...the grammer rules
good luck!
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:11 pm |
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Hi Julia, this is not my question. I know those rules though to practice is still difficult. I just mean that special thing with ları does that exists with leri as well?
And isn't it bizim kitabımız? The p become b when the suffix starts with a vowel isn't it?
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:12 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Hi Julia, this is not my question. I know those rules though to practice is still difficult. I just mean that special thing with ları does that exists with leri as well?
And isn't it bizim kitabımız? The p become b when the suffix starts with a vowel isn't it? |
YES THE P BECOMES A B...
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:13 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: I just had another lesson of Turkish. I learned about possisive suffixes like 'evim' and 'annem'. Also that kitapları has three meanings: his/her books (kitaplar + ı ), their book (kitap + ları ) and their books (kitap + ları, not twice lar because that's too much).
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me? |
AS FAR AS I'M AWARE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LERI AND LARI IS THE WHETHER HARD OR SOFT VOWELS ARE THE LAST LETTER.THEREFORE THE SAME RULE SHOULD APPLY..I HOPE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER COMES ALONG SOON  
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:21 pm |
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sorry, my mistake.....it is "kitabimiz"
regarding -lar/ler, the rule of the plural applies and the vowel harmony:
ev-evler; onlarin evleri
kiz-kizlar/ onlarin kizlari
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:37 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: I just had another lesson of Turkish.
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me? |
Yes Trudy, you are exactly right. To be explicit you can use onun(his) or onların(their)
onun evleri - his houses
onların evi - their house
onların evleri - their houses
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:40 pm |
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Quoting harikayim: Quoting Trudy: I just had another lesson of Turkish.
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me? |
Yes Trudy, you are exactly right. To be explicit you can use onun(his) or onların(their)
onun evleri - his houses
onların evi - their house
onların evleri - their houses
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Thanks Harikayim, this is what I want to find out. Now I know I understood the explanation of my teacher correct.
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:56 pm |
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see ur turkish will be great in no time 
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05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:59 pm |
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Quoting robyn : see ur turkish will be great in no time |
+1 
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06 Dec 2006 Wed 09:11 am |
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Quoting harikayim: Quoting Trudy: I just had another lesson of Turkish.
I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?
I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?
I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me? |
Yes Trudy, you are exactly right. To be explicit you can use onun(his) or onların(their)
onun evleri - his houses
onların evi - their house
onların evleri - their houses
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onların evleri = their house or their houses (you should know which one is meant by using the context)
Usually the first part (the genitive part -onun/onların-) is dropped.
evi = his/her house
evleri = his/her houses or their house or their houses (Again you should know which one is meant by using the context)
When there is no context, you need to ask a question to clear the ambuguity.
kimin evleri?
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09 Dec 2006 Sat 03:24 pm |
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Quoting aslan2: When there is no context, you need to ask a question to clear the ambuguity.
kimin evleri? |
Why the -in suffix on kimin???
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09 Dec 2006 Sat 03:28 pm |
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Quoting bod: Quoting aslan2: When there is no context, you need to ask a question to clear the ambuguity.
kimin evleri? |
Why the -in suffix on kimin??? |
I think I can answer that (hopefully right - than I am proud.... ). Kimin eveleri as in whose houses? Possessive suffix for 'who' - second person singular.
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09 Dec 2006 Sat 06:14 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting bod: Quoting aslan2: When there is no context, you need to ask a question to clear the ambuguity.
kimin evleri? |
Why the -in suffix on kimin??? |
I think I can answer that (hopefully right - than I am proud.... ). Kimin eveleri as in whose houses? Possessive suffix for 'who' - second person singular. |
Actually -(n)in suffix is the genitive case suffix.
Ali-nin evleri
Elif-in evleri
o-nun evleri
onlar-ın evleri
sen-in evlerin
siz-in evleriniz
ben-im evlerim (-im instead of -in)
biz-im evlerimiz (-im instead of -in)
kim-in evleri
and yes
kimin = whose
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