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saddams executed
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 11:39 pm |
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Quoting robyn  : Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Capoeira: And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
All of them? Ummm I only counted one person (Christine) who was NOT vehemently against the hanging 
I am strongly against capital punishment and believe Saddam should have been jailed for life. However "turn the other cheek" cannot be used where serious crimes are involved! Do you suggest "turning the other cheek" to ALL crime (including murderers, child molesters etc? )  |
i meant capital punishment is not appropriate or necessary..not sure what capoeira meant.. |
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 11:46 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Capoeira: And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
All of them? Ummm I only counted one person (Christine) who was NOT vehemently against the hanging
I am strongly against capital punishment and believe Saddam should have been jailed for life. However "turn the other cheek" cannot be used where serious crimes are involved! Do you suggest "turning the other cheek" to ALL crime (including murderers, child molesters etc? ) |
I wanted to address a general attitude that people who support the death penalty have and keep the debate general instead of personal. But, thanks for pointing out the exact number that posted this exact statement here. I can always count on you for exact numbers! Opps!!!! I forgot how many states require the blood test for marriage!  Sorry to waste such useful knowledge!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 12:52 am |
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one thing most of u forgot, namely: dont cook a poridge mixing the religous laws with the secular laws. the statments like 'eye for an eye' or 'turn the other cheek' must be used in ur personal relationships according to ur own religous moral values, however the first statement must not be applied today at all by anyone in any case (nor anywhere).
a constitutional law is a law created on no religous basis by the legislative bodies. normally in a more civilized country the religions are not allowed to be applied due to which the conflicts on the religous background are avoided.
law is a law not a fairy-tale 
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 01:28 am |
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saddams executed in first day of Bayram is another slap to the human rights,not only to Muslims or iraqis.
Whether with the death penalty or not,but doing this in first day of Bayram is another show of the power of some countiers who so called free and democratic countries.
Again whether we like it or not,Saddam was a leader.
And has people who believe in him,beside he got his own family too.
İt's so unfair for them each year people celebrate Bayram,new year and remind them of his death !
İ don't argue what he did,or wether he deserve or not,but also,why do we judge the toy,and break it,and leave its creator ?!
And what irony it is that the creator,is the one who is judging the toy,or lets call it the robot,and executing it .
Guys,it was just a ROBOT ,then what about the criminal ?!
And destroying it in Bayram,and new year ?! Very Sad 
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 01:53 am |
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Quoting CANLI: saddams executed in first day of Bayram is another slap to the human rights,not only to Muslims or iraqis.
Whether with the death penalty or not,but doing this in first day of Bayram is another show of the power of some countiers who so called free and democratic countries.
Again whether we like it or not,Saddam was a leader.
And has people who believe in him,beside he got his own family too.
İt's so unfair for them each year people celebrate Bayram,new year and remind them of his death !
İ don't argue what he did,or wether he deserve or not,but also,why do we judge the toy,and break it,and leave its creator ?!
And what irony it is that the creator,is the one who is judging the toy,or lets call it the robot,and executing it .
Guys,it was just a ROBOT ,then what about the criminal ?!
And destroying it in Bayram,and new year ?! Very Sad |
Much as I HATE to defend the US, you cannot blame them for everything here! He was NOT just a robot and most of his attrocities committed to his own people were conducted independently. In addition, please remember that the trial was conducted by MUSLIMS and he was hanged BY MUSLIMS.
I agree with your statements about human rights and about capital punishment, but lets have some perspective!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 01:59 am |
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... the trial was a travesty, the hanging was barbaric, but I pray that the Islamic world do not turn this man into an innocent martyr
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 02:00 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: one thing most of u forgot, namely: dont cook a poridge mixing the religous laws with the secular laws. the statments like 'eye for an eye' or 'turn the other cheek' must be used in ur personal relationships according to ur own religous moral values, however the first statement must not be applied today at all by anyone in any case (nor anywhere).
a constitutional law is a law created on no religous basis by the legislative bodies. normally in a more civilized country the religions are not allowed to be applied due to which the conflicts on the religous background are avoided.
law is a law not a fairy-tale |
Wishful thinking. If it were true than people would not be concerned about the religious afiliation of its lawmakers. Almost all campaigns highlight whether or not a President is Catholic,protestant or muslim in the "civilized world". Not to mention the news reports that highlight them partaking of religious services in mosques, churches or cathedrals. Also you are forgetting that separation of church and state does not imply that lawmakers leave their faith at the door upon entering into constitutional debates. In fact it is religion that usually fuels their drive to vote for or against proposed laws and constitutional amendments. Please don't forget President's Bush address to the world stating along the lines you are either for or against us. Quoting directly from a biblical text. Nice attempt to state that the "civilized world" operates without religion however it simply isn't reality. Just to clarify...I am not stating that religion should be a part of law making. simply pointing out that it is and probably will be a portion of the reason certain laws are made.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 02:02 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: ... the trial was a travesty, the hanging was barbaric, but I pray that the Islamic world do not turn this man into an innocent martyr |
+10000 couldn't agree more!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 02:07 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
Much as I HATE to defend the US, you cannot blame them for everything here! He was NOT just a robot and most of his attrocities committed to his own people were conducted independently. In addition, please remember that the trial was conducted by MUSLIMS and he was hanged BY MUSLIMS.
I agree with your statements about human rights and about capital punishment, but lets have some perspective! |
As i pointed out that,i do NOT defend him,as a matter of fact i see that hanging was not right because its a mercy for him !
He should be put into jail and suffer the way he used to make his own people suffer too.
That's justice.
You say the trial was conducted by MUSLIMS,and he was hanged by MUSLİMS,which they are RULED by USA,and UK,that would make much difference,don't you think ?
İf İraq was a free country,i would agree with you.
But hanging Saddam will increase the blood between the iraqis themselves,and its for USA,and UK benefit.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 02:09 am |
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Quoting CANLI: İf İraq was a free country,i would agree with you.
But hanging Saddam will increase the blood between the iraqis themselves,and its for USA,and UK benefit. |
Benefit? It will increase the blood for the USA and UK too
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 02:17 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting CANLI: İf İraq was a free country,i would agree with you.
But hanging Saddam will increase the blood between the iraqis themselves,and its for USA,and UK benefit. |
Benefit? It will increase the blood for the USA and UK too |
aenigma x,
İ'm sorry to say that,but it would and should be blood for the USA and UK as long as they are staying in another country and trying to rule it !
The iraqis must and should kick them out,or at least try!
But think about it this way,fighting Suna,and Şi'a together as one unit,or fight them seperated while they are fighting themselves too ?!
İ guess the answer is very obvious!
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