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03 Jan 2007 Wed 05:26 am |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting CANLI: Quoting Capoeira:
And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
You know something Capoeira,
İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
How to do this in real ? Bilmiyorum ! İ don't know ! |
I am a pacifist. Otherwise, this world stays as it is. Each person looking for revenge, violence will never end. We can't condemn the U.S.,U.K., Saddam, Pinochet, or others who have resorted to violence to accomplish their goals if we are the exact same...justifying our own violent retaliations. I guess I'm just a dreamer. |
Sorry Kai I tried 
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 05:42 am |
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Quoting karekin04: Quoting Capoeira: Quoting CANLI: Quoting Capoeira:
And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
You know something Capoeira,
İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
How to do this in real ? Bilmiyorum ! İ don't know ! |
I am a pacifist. Otherwise, this world stays as it is. Each person looking for revenge, violence will never end. We can't condemn the U.S.,U.K., Saddam, Pinochet, or others who have resorted to violence to accomplish their goals if we are the exact same...justifying our own violent retaliations. I guess I'm just a dreamer. |
Sorry Kai I tried
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Peace beyond all understanding allows me to assure you that I would.
It appears that I have offended you by my earlier post. Please accept my apology.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 05:44 am |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting karekin04: Quoting Capoeira: Quoting CANLI: Quoting Capoeira:
And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
You know something Capoeira,
İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
How to do this in real ? Bilmiyorum ! İ don't know ! |
I am a pacifist. Otherwise, this world stays as it is. Each person looking for revenge, violence will never end. We can't condemn the U.S.,U.K., Saddam, Pinochet, or others who have resorted to violence to accomplish their goals if we are the exact same...justifying our own violent retaliations. I guess I'm just a dreamer. |
Sorry Kai I tried
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Peace beyond all understanding allows me to assure you that I would.
It appears that I have offended you by my earlier post. Please accept my apology. |
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 09:53 pm |
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how did all this happend? i find myself going too far back with its history.
then let me start just with the latest events where the senior bush who lost his wars in that area after saddams being maneuvred into the conflicts with iran and kuweit. he coudnt force much on clinton, so that he could come back to sort it out.
then one day 9/11 muslim martyrs blowed up thus stirred up mess in usa. that was a great excuse a great chance for junior bush to accomplish dads deals left in past. they quickly fabricated "nuclear" weapons which was enough to send troops. soon they turned the danger of "nuclear" into "freeing" iraqies and bringing the democracy.
failure after failure!
the most important and interesting thing is that at the beginning it was declared that w.bush was tracing terrorists in iraq  while the real terrosists were in afganistan and paskistan which was obvious then and today.
i remember reading reports (back far years late 80 and 9 on saddams regime that bothered me much. and as far as i knew it was the problem of united nations. this organisation could do nothing about saddam. sactions after sactions were imposed on iraq and people suffered just because of this one person.
it was a big mistake, a total disaster, a bloodshed, a sort of a curse to usa and uk, an absolute waste of money!
no lesson taken from vietnam and all the wars in the near east!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 10:09 pm |
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Quoting kai: Will people stop saying MY country and MY people!!! Whether we like it or not, there is no such thing! Just because we are not a native of a certain country does not mean it's not part of us! Allahim! We are all part of one race the DAMN HUMAN RACE! and this is OUR world not this is MY country and that is THEIR country. All countries make up ONE world and that is the world we ALL damn live in! |
Ok Kai, if you don't like it, I can say "one part of my race killed another part of my race thanks to intervention of the third part of my race, and all that happened to be in the part of the world where I accidentaly live". It is just the matter of terms, but also I can say that it was the things that happened in "my part of the world" taught me to love and respect other nations and people, including the "part of the world called Iraq". Anyway, this is not topic for children. The word "war" is stressful enough by itself.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 10:47 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
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obviously u suffer from a poor imagination in this sphere of matters.
moreover u also suffer from fantasies (like many in ur area) about usa and its impact over the world. ur knowledge upon the world's politics is far from the reality, made up stories which definetly cannot be called a knowledge. u r like a broken gramahpone who keeps singing the same song which makes u sick  after hearing it loads of times.
i had to tell this, coz no one dares to call things by their names. afterall as usually its my duty to do the dirty job here.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 10:56 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira:
Wishful thinking. If it were true than people would not be concerned about the religious afiliation of its lawmakers. Almost all campaigns highlight whether or not a President is Catholic,protestant or muslim in the "civilized world". Not to mention the news reports that highlight them partaking of religious services in mosques, churches or cathedrals. Also you are forgetting that separation of church and state does not imply that lawmakers leave their faith at the door upon entering into constitutional debates. In fact it is religion that usually fuels their drive to vote for or against proposed laws and constitutional amendments. Please don't forget President's Bush address to the world stating along the lines you are either for or against us. Quoting directly from a biblical text. Nice attempt to state that the "civilized world" operates without religion however it simply isn't reality. Just to clarify...I am not stating that religion should be a part of law making. simply pointing out that it is and probably will be a portion of the reason certain laws are made. |
not wishful thinking. every selfrespecting lawyer leaves his/her emotions beyond the doors for the sake of the case dealt, accordin to the oath they give. as a lawyer u leave all ur beliefs and personal life behind the doors.
do u question the modern constitutions? thousands of genious heads worked on them improving them throught centuries.
as for the bush's speech, very simple, his speech is not a law. everyone is entitled to use religous statements for to manipulate.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:25 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting CANLI: İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
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obviously u suffer from a poor imagination in this sphere of matters.
moreover u also suffer from fantasies (like many in ur area) about usa and its impact over the world. ur knowledge upon the world's politics is far from the reality, made up stories which definetly cannot be called a knowledge. u r like a broken gramahpone who keeps singing the same song which makes u sick after hearing it loads of times.
i had to tell this, coz no one dares to call things by their names. afterall as usually its my duty to do the dirty job here. |
Maybe its not a matter of daring as it is just a matter of respect !
Maybe they just have some sort of understanding that it maybe lack in UR AREA that everyone is entitled to his own opinion whether they agree on it or not.
Maybe they know the difference between a debate,and even a hot debate,and judging persons they don't know anything about them or their own knowledge,but never the less they still judge them where they are not entitled to be a judge.
Maybe they just really do as they think,and not act to be libertarian where their actions,or let me say their posts say something else!
But again,that maybe common like 'Many in your area' which God knows where it is!
But you know something,i won't be dragged to a useless discussion,because ,
First,as about 'my area',i don't need to talk much about it,our culture,our history,and our people are talking about themselves,we don't really need more talk.
Second,i know you like the role of Miss knowing everything in the world,but i'm afraid as this may be surprising to you,there are lots of people who got some brains too,and they can watch,read,and have their own opinions,and they actually use their brain,so they don't need neither me nor you to tell them who is the big boss in the world today.
But as you like to have this role,its fine by me,but as far as i am concerned,i join debate which built on logic,and mutual respect between people,for believes,religions,and even the areas the are from!
And i do NOT judge people who i don't know simply because i do not agree on what they say,i consider it a shallow thinking.
What can i say?! as you know,i'm just an Eastern ,emotional,proud person,as same as my area 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:56 am |
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canli
1. i dont know u, even if i knew u personally i cant say i knew well. 2. i dont need to know u, i know ur mentality, thats enough for me to judge ur posts.
3. a history of ur country? tell me about it!
4. my role is to un-close ur sweet stories that u keep telling here.
5. i dont like being called miss, that doesnt suit me.
6. im not keen being loved or adored, like many adore here each other.
7. so, cheese from al-jazeera 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:13 am |
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Quoting karekin04: Quoting Capoeira: Quoting CANLI: Quoting Capoeira:
And for all you 'eye for an eye' people, there is also a saying, "turn the other cheek!" |
You know something Capoeira,
İ want the law to give me my right first ' eye for an eye' then ask me if i want to 'tunr the other cheek'
İt is my right to make the choice not to be forced upon me.
How to do this in real ? Bilmiyorum ! İ don't know ! |
I am a pacifist. Otherwise, this world stays as it is. Each person looking for revenge, violence will never end. We can't condemn the U.S.,U.K., Saddam, Pinochet, or others who have resorted to violence to accomplish their goals if we are the exact same...justifying our own violent retaliations. I guess I'm just a dreamer. |
I'd like to see if you would still be living in this flowery world if your mother, daughter, son, etc. was brutally tortured and murdered... who would be the hypocrite then? or i suppose you'd only ask for a slap on the wrist??? Or maybe a nice prison with a hot meal every night paid for with your tax dollars?
Sorry Kai I tried
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Just because I like to drag up old arguments (  ) I have to say that I actually support Capoiera on this one and your answers were a little patronising . Being passive is not weakness. It takes more strength to be passive than to succumb to revenge.
It does not mean to "turn the other cheek" but more to resist violent revenge.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:15 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: canli
1. i dont know u, even if i knew u personally i cant say i knew well.
Agree
2. i dont need to know u, i know ur mentality, thats enough for me to judge ur posts.
No comment !
3. a history of ur country? tell me about it!
İ don't need to,you already know,beside if you want to know more,there are always the books
4. my role is to un-close ur sweet stories that u keep telling here.
That i've noticed,i didn't know that you like them that much
5. i dont like being called miss, that doesnt suit me.
Fine by me,just name it .
6. im not keen being loved or adored, like many adore here each other.
But that doesn't mean you be keen to walk in the opposite direction in the sack of just objecting,or...maybe it is..hmmmmm
7. so, cheese from al-jazeera
Waving back at ya 
And btw,i'm not al-jazeera big fan,but fair enough before criticizing al-jazeera for 1 or 2 or maybe 3 news,follow CNN and its news about Israel and Palestine
Heyyy,you remember my nice story about that rock?
And who is not sinful can throw ?
İ can tell it again if you like it among my nice stories that you like |
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