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150.       femme_fatal
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 06 Jan 2007 Sat 07:17 pm

Quoting kai:


And finally 3rd thing - Will people stop saying MY country and MY people!!! Whether we like it or not, there is no such thing! Just because we are not a native of a certain country does not mean it's not part of us! Allahim! We are all part of one race the DAMN HUMAN RACE! and this is OUR world not this is MY country and that is THEIR country. All countries make up ONE world and that is the world we ALL damn live in!


just because u yourself have no country, and have no national ID, and cant say who you are it doesnt mean that everyone should speak according to your receiption of the world.
it is one world of many nations.

151.       femme_fatal
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 06 Jan 2007 Sat 07:34 pm

Quoting CANLI:


Afraid? avoiding ? about what ? Our Egyptian History ?! lol
Ohh come onnn,you have time to hear over 7000 yrs of Civilization ? lol

But,tell me,why do you avoid to say where are you from ?!


im not avoiding saying where im from, since u havent asked me. very simple, no question - no answer.

hahaha, i got u! i purposedly maneuvered u into this question. i knew you had a poor education there!
since when the great coptian civilization (so-called egyptian) belong to arabs? hahaha.
lol

152.       qdemir
813 posts
 06 Jan 2007 Sat 07:40 pm

femme_fatal, you are a don cossack, aren't you? I think you are.

153.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Jan 2007 Sat 07:52 pm

Quoting qdemir:

femme_fatal, you are a don cossack, aren't you? I think you are.


hahaha very close! but im afraid that poor canli has no idea of what cossacks are!

154.       qdemir
813 posts
 06 Jan 2007 Sat 08:15 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting qdemir:

femme_fatal, you are a don cossack, aren't you? I think you are.


hahaha very close! but im afraid that poor canli has no idea of what cossacks are!



Are you a malakan cossack?

155.       femme_fatal
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 06 Jan 2007 Sat 08:53 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting qdemir:

femme_fatal, you are a don cossack, aren't you? I think you are.


hahaha very close! but im afraid that poor canli has no idea of what cossacks are!



Are you a malakan cossack?


tell u later

156.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Jan 2007 Sat 09:19 pm

Don Cossack - Is it a person or a regiment enlisted into the German Cavalry in WW2 - enlighten us less knowledgeable on the ins and outs of Cossacks, or were they Russians?

Not sure what is has go to do with Iraq? but then again that is normal for this site is it not....... lol

157.       kai
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 06 Jan 2007 Sat 10:27 pm

Quoting duda:

Quote:

Also, when you say children shouldnt be a part of this etc...i wonder how often you watch the news or the read the news papers? because when i was at work, in all but one of our papers we sell, had the front cover about Saddam Husseins hanging, so it wasn't exactly hard to miss.

That's exactly I was talking about. In many cases we cannot prevent young people and children being involved – unfortunately – but we must try to protect them. (When I say "we", I mean all of us who are able to – parents, teachers and all the other responsible people.) Of course it doesn't mean being silent about that, on the contrary. I was talking about my son from that very reason. During the war and in the midst of bombing (and in the dark, with no electricity, which is maybe even more terrifying for a child) I used to play games with him to distract his attention. We had no real need for newspapers and TV, everything was happening around us. We had a dictator too, so all the children and youths here have been talking about death penalties and killings. Nowadays, when my son is grown-up – you see, I say "grown-up", although he is formally still a child, for I do not judge on somebodys age – I try to "despoil" his thoughts, and it has been very long process. If I haven't been talking to him all the time, he would be full of hatred now. I try to make him dream about one world and one race too, like you are thinking, but how can I make him think so when he grow up in a terrible world? He will need time to forget it (if he ever does). And I try to teach him that he must give his contribution so that similar things never happen to anybody. I am never shocked by any strong opinion from young people at all, on the contrary. This post of yours was very mature and temperate, so it shows you can be mature when you really want it. Being a mother and speaking like a friend, I can't compare you not with my son, for you both had similar experiences and I wish from all my heart that you hadn't hard times. As I can see it, if you already had gone through all that hell, you have at least three choices: to hate – which is absolutely wrong; to dream about one world and one race – which is deeply human, but unobtainable giving the circumstances; and to stand up to facts, which I see as the only sollution at the moment. Saddam's death was the fact, and all that killed people were the fact. We will not help anybody neither by hatred, nor by peaceful dreams, but with our deeds. As any grown-up individual, I can contribute in several ways allowed by laws (voting, political engagement, personal propaganda etc.) Believe me, you will have your time to change this world (and may it be the better world than ours!). I am not saying you should watch through the pink-couloured eyeglasses. Being informed and not involved until the moment's ripe – that's the point for the young people. Myself, I didn't want to see and discuss the hanging; I've already seen too much hanged people. I was saying only that any act which provokes further agression is deeply wrong. I do not give a damn for any dictator, and I do not care if he is alive or not. But I do care for common people, especially for youth, and I still think this is too horrible a topic for young people. Dear Kai, think about life... not about death. For the life is what you are going to create.
D.



yes i agree with you a lot in your points but when you say "you can act so resonsible/mature when you want to" its not for the reason i want to, its the reason that I have no choice....i grew up too quickly and missed a lot of my childhood unfortunatly, but hey life is the way it is. I have also been surrounded by death so its a little hard not to think about it someimes. Don't get me wrond, it doesn't upset me because i have been through so much of it that i have sort of got used to it....ok that sounds bad but i think you get what i mean :-S....its like it still hurts like hell when a person does die but the after effect just buries itself inside....i hope you get what I mean lol :-S
Anyway death is just another part of life.
It's not nice i know but its a part of life whether we like it or not.

Anyway.....great points you made, I respect your opinion

158.       kai
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 06 Jan 2007 Sat 10:34 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting kai:


And finally 3rd thing - Will people stop saying MY country and MY people!!! Whether we like it or not, there is no such thing! Just because we are not a native of a certain country does not mean it's not part of us! Allahim! We are all part of one race the DAMN HUMAN RACE! and this is OUR world not this is MY country and that is THEIR country. All countries make up ONE world and that is the world we ALL damn live in!


just because u yourself have no country, and have no national ID, and cant say who you are it doesnt mean that everyone should speak according to your receiption of the world.
it is one world of many nations.



I do have a nationality because I was born in a certain country, which makes me a nationality of that country, but I don't call it my country. It's as much as yours as it is mine and I can say who I am and where I was born etc. And finally I didnt ask anyone technically to stop it, it was something called a rhetorical question! Also I am allowed y opinion as anyone else is and also allowed to show how they feel, and by saying what I did, I expressed how i felt when people label a country "theirs".

159.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Jan 2007 Sat 11:21 pm

If Ali Awalli has his way then the problems in Iraq will be solved with the help of surrounding nations including Turkey. And not with the help of the UK and USA who created this havock - lets hope he can restore some kind of normality with the help of his neighbouring nations. and lets hope that a bit of normality can be resored here too.

160.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 07 Jan 2007 Sun 12:30 am

Quoting kai:


I do have a nationality because I was born in a certain country, which makes me a nationality of that country, but I don't call it my country. It's as much as yours as it is mine and I can say who I am and where I was born etc. And finally I didnt ask anyone technically to stop it, it was something called a rhetorical question! Also I am allowed y opinion as anyone else is and also allowed to show how they feel, and by saying what I did, I expressed how i felt when people label a country "theirs".


then tell me where were u born, if not a secret.
why does it hurt when someone calls his/her country "my country". whats wrong calling it "my country"? very weird!

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