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You Tube banned in Turkey
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 06:40 pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6427355.stm
I didn't post this to debate the issue. But to let people know there are programs available that mask your IP address so that you can get restricted content. There are many US websites, that dont allow complete access from overseas. Another option is a program called "My PC" which actually allows you to access the internet through a server in a different country.
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 07:14 pm |
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let me get this straight..people in turkey can't access youtube at all?
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 07:17 pm |
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So how come MrX manages, he has posted loads of YouTube things lately, last one yesterday!
I can understand in China, many sites are blocked or banned a Communist oppressive country.
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 07:18 pm |
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Quoting libralady: So how come MrX manages, he has posted loads of YuoTube things lately, last one yesterday! |
i also sent some links to some family in turkey, in the article it names one particular telecoms company, maybe other telecom providers still allow it, if there are others?:-S
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 09:01 pm |
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It's only just happened recently I heard, and it's because of some debate between Turks and Greeks. I'm not to sure but it said suspended so I don't think it's going to stay like that.
If so I know someone who will be upset 
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 11:24 pm |
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Turkey is the country of strangeness. Someone cracked from Greece uploads a video to insult Ataturk; but it becomes us, Turkish citizens, who are punished. As if it were us who must not watch the video in question! It is thus made that person from Greece achieve his target!
Thanks God, we Turks didn't invent Internet and don't direct it! Otherwise you would often come across the following notice:
"Access to Internet has been suspended in accordance with decision no: blah blah dated blah blah of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court."
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 12:05 am |
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The librarian from my high school just e-mailed me this link about Turkey banning youtube:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TURKEY_YOUTUBE_BAN?SITE=KYWAM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 12:06 am |
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Quoting Quasimodo: Turkey is the country of strangeness. Someone cracked from Greece uploads a video to insult Ataturk; but it becomes us, Turkish citizens, who are punished. As if it were us who must not watch the video in question! It is thus made that person from Greece achieve his target!
Thanks God, we Turks didn't invent Internet and don't direct it! Otherwise you would often come across the following notice:
"Access to Internet has been suspended in accordance with decision no: blah blah dated blah blah of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court." |
Oh, I see - so because there are videos on youtube that insult Ataturk, Turkish government censored youtube because no Turkish citizen is allowed to see anything that's insulting to Ataturk... makes sense (I think that Turks decided to learn more from China) . Turkey is indeed a country of strangeness... (and apparently so is Greece) :-S.
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 03:28 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Quasimodo: Turkey is the country of strangeness. Someone cracked from Greece uploads a video to insult Ataturk; but it becomes us, Turkish citizens, who are punished. As if it were us who must not watch the video in question! It is thus made that person from Greece achieve his target!
Thanks God, we Turks didn't invent Internet and don't direct it! Otherwise you would often come across the following notice:
"Access to Internet has been suspended in accordance with decision no: blah blah dated blah blah of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court." |
Oh, I see - so because there are videos on youtube that insult Ataturk, Turkish government censored youtube because no Turkish citizen is allowed to see anything that's insulting to Ataturk... makes sense (I think that Turks decided to learn more from China) . Turkey is indeed a country of strangeness... (and apparently so is Greece) :-S. |
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 04:05 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
Turkey is indeed a country of strangeness... (and apparently so is Greece) :-S. |
It's probably contageous, as these two are neighbour countries 
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 04:06 pm |
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may be thats strange,but its sort of message to others abouth ''wheres insult we don't be there''.sometime silence better then to be noisey for make better things..
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 04:46 pm |
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This is just ridiculous. Let's all hope that the ones who decided this will soon come to reason and put YouTube back online for Turkish citizens.
They complain about this one video against Atatürk. Have they actually seen how much videos there are on YouTube that are actually promoting Turkey and Atatürk?
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 04:51 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: This is just ridiculous. Let's all hope that the ones who decided this will soon come to reason and put YouTube back online for Turkish citizens.
They complain about this one video against Atatürk. Have they actually seen how much videos there are on YouTube that are actually promoting Turkey and Atatürk? |
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 04:55 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: freedoms can be limited sometime when needed,and thats one of em,thats all |
Who can decide? And for what reason? I see that as a bunch of over zealous individuals that can't take criticism from anybody. I would hate to see what media I would be allowed to see if all media that spoke poorly about the U.S. were banned. HMMMMMM. There would be a big, black, sound proof tent around my house, and they would take away my computer, plus lock me into prision and then try to muzzle me if I weren't allowed to criticize my country and it's leaders...no matter how sanctimonous they appear!
Long live free speech!
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:00 pm |
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criticism and insult doesn't same things,aswell how not doesn't same fredom and caos
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:06 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: criticism and insult doesn't same things,aswell how not doesn't same fredom and caos |
Don't you think for a bit that banning a website because of one video goes too far?
One's freedom stops where another one's freedom begins. This includes that you shouldn't insult other people. But insulting has two sides: the one that insults, the one that takes the insult. Don't you think this is very childish and sensitive to respond in such a way to an insult? If you are sure of who you are and what you represent, one insult won't pull you down. It only shows lack of maturity and selfrespect (bana kalırsa) if you are this offended by an insult.
ANyway this article wasnt posted to start a discussion and I am sure everybody will now think that I hate Turkey etc. etc. etc. But I couldnt help myself not to respond to this. As Catwoman says, they decided to learn more from China..
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:06 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: criticism and insult doesn't same things,aswell how not doesn't same fredom and caos |
Well fine...if I "insult" my previous leaders...I should be allowed to do it! However, it appears in Turkey that there isn't a difference between 'insult' and 'criticism'. I'm sure this will start a rash of angry turkish reactions. THank God I don't live there as surely they would be trying to put me in jail for 'speaking' against turkishness!!
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:10 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira:
Well fine...if I "insult" my previous leaders...I should be allowed to do it! However, it appears in Turkey that there isn't a difference between 'insult' and 'criticism'. I'm sure this will start a rash of angry turkish reactions. THank God I don't live there as surely they would be trying to put me in jail for 'speaking' against turkishness!! |
I dont know if there is a difference, because from my experience.. there is no such thing as criticism anyway. This is something that makes me rather sad because I love this country and through criticism it could be improved and I would love it even more then!
However, I think though someone should have the freedom to insult (not because I think its good, but because the difference between insult and criticism CAN be really small), I think someone should use their freedom not to insult 
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:26 pm |
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self critism and all sort cristisms allowed for make things better,but some of people using this freedom very indifferent way,and some places become are of this indifferents.so its better sometime to make dry swamp for to be busy with flies...(İ'm always on side of freedoms,but when used in true way)
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 05:31 pm |
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anyway i bet it will be fine as soon as,its just a temporary reaction for make lower the tension i thinklong live!!friendship&peace-down with!!enmity&hate 
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08 Mar 2007 Thu 06:43 pm |
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09 Mar 2007 Fri 07:23 pm |
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According to Dutch news the ban is gone, by court order. YouTube is accessible again in Turkey.
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