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1.       lenka83
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 05 Dec 2005 Mon 08:24 pm

i love this writer.. could u recommend me other good turkish authors??

2.       cyrano
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 05 Dec 2005 Mon 09:23 pm

Lenka,

There is, properly speaking, no writer so bad and famous as Pamuk. So I cannot recommend authors like Pamuk.

But what about Buket Uzuner? I would recommend you the two nice novels below:

Mavi Tuna-Kumral Ada / Mediterranean Waltz, (Sellerie Co., Palermo – Italy)
Uzun Beyaz Bulut-Gelibolu / Long White Cloud-Gallipoli

3.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 09:53 pm

well i would love Orhan Pamuk so much... if he didnt use this power of him in politics or such things... to me everybody need to be in his area maybe you can put your ideas in your books but there is no right of him to make explanations about such and important topic... whatever.. here is a link for you the biggest online book store..

www.ideefixe.com

have fun!

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 10:28 pm

No matter what kinda weird person he is (from what i've heard), his books are very good at literature-level actually. They are complex and full of metaphors n such..

So.. if in Turkey they already think Pamuk is bad.. then what do they call good? Because then that will be stunning to me!!!

5.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 10:32 pm

we dont care if he is good or bad... yes he is good at his job but who the hell he is supposes to have a right to talk about Turkish and Armenian problem.. this country has a government good or bad and courts the thing is related to them.. it would be better if he only write books... though he is still at top lists.. so think about this what if a british author tells about the thing that UK didnt do at the past?? what would you think?

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 10:37 pm

Yes.. but i can't answer this, because i dont know exactly what has happened in the past. The Turkish sources say different things than the European. The European say different than the Armenian.. What's truth?

And to be honest.. i wouldn't care that much if someone told false things about Dutch past (im not from uk ) because i would know for myself that it's not true and that's the most important. But this case is more sensitive because Turkey has to 'look good' to join EU, so he made a terrible mistake by saying it.

Yes it's probably better for him to stick to his books, but it's ridiculous that he risks prison for it. That is the last thing that will get Turkey into EU i think?

Maybe i don't know enough to judge? But this is how i feel so far Convince me if you think im wrong

7.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 11:23 pm

this is what populer culture does to Turkey honey... yeah i am not agianist culture exchages... but if you look at the whats going on in the world it turned out so selfish behaviours.. and not caring... yeah economy does it indeed... but ppl having no interest standing against it...
hope you got what i meant...

8.       cyrano
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 05 Dec 2005 Mon 11:24 pm

I would be surprised if you hadn't loved Pamuk much. I wasn't mentioning or implying what Pamuk said about Armenian when I said he was the worst writer. I was just wondering from where Pamuk's remark came to your mind?

And, Deli_kızın, the problem is that I cannot understand the way he uses language and cannot see metaphors in his language while you are able to see them. Maybe I am as fool as I cannot see them in his books. And the chances are that I read Pamuk's novels as translation books in Turkish and that's very probably why you love Pamuk much more than a native reader.

Oh, I forgot to add this: Perhaps Pamuk isn't even a writer, he is only a bad translator like me!

9.       mltm
3690 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 11:28 pm

I've read just one book of Orhan Pamuk, it was "Sessiz Ev" and I enjoyed it very much. Really a good book.

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Dec 2005 Mon 11:31 pm

I've been told his use of language is very difficult in Turkish, so maybe not everyone just understands it totaly.

And i get lessons in understand literature, so that's maybe why i see the deeper layer. Simply because thats what they teach me at school

I found Pamuk's books when i was searching in the library for Turkish literature. His books appealed most to me. I guess i love them lots because they are VERY different from Dutch literature.

I got what you mean Sui, but i hope your country won't change that bad, because i wanna go to turkey for my love, but also to escape the selfish, shortsighted life in Holland. I don't wanna find that in Turkey too!

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