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Please make me optimistic!
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11 May 2007 Fri 08:57 pm |
Lately (over the last few days) some of the stories have surfaced regarding the relationships about turkish men and their foreign wives or girlfriends.
After reading these tales of heartbreak it has become my conclusion that no relationship with a turkish man turns out good. Can this be true??
If you are foreign (these are not my thoughts ideas, just what I think others are implying) he will inevitably leave you, cheat on you, or worse. If you are a turkish woman, he will stay with you but probably cheat on you, or worse. Can this be??? I feel utterly helpless after reading these experiances and almost believe that there is no hope for a lasting relationship with a Turkish man. I certainly hope this is false.
If anyone has a story to tell of a lasting relationship (more then a decade please) I would surely love to here it, because at this point my optimism has been severely cracked and I feel (not literally)I must leave my love at once! There must be someone here that can restore my faith, that love is still alive in the 21st century no matter where you are from????
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11 May 2007 Fri 09:17 pm |
Can't help you with a 'decade-story' but don't be that pessimistic!
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11 May 2007 Fri 09:39 pm |
Quoting karekin04: that love is still alive in the 21st century no matter where you are from???? |
Believe me - love is still alive in this century, if not, please be sure that I will then be volunteer to keep love alive.
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11 May 2007 Fri 09:52 pm |
Karekin, my opinion on this is - don't get so much influenced by other people's stories, whether good or bad, but just learn from them. What was the common factor in the bad relationships and what was the common factor in the good ones, and most importantly, what do you want from YOUR relationship and how is it satisfied. It's important to get to know his culture, learn what is acceptable to them, what is valuable to them and talk about it with your boyfriend, see what his attitude is (and obviously compare it with his behavior).
Something I find important is that people in a relationship should not be dependent on each other. You need to have your own space and give him his space to be who he wants to be or do what he likes to do. You cannot also be dependent on each other financially, emotionally... etc. If you cannot eliminate these dependencies then you will never know whether he was your true choice or if you were his and honest, genuine love won't have the room to develop.
Yes, sometimes it feels like there's no good relationships out there, but after all we don't HAVE TO have a relationship with a man (or a woman) to be happy, fulfilled people. It's better to be alone (romantically) then to settle with someone out of necessity (that would bring much more misery and damage then anything else). There are plenty single people who are very successful and happy. There is so much more to life then a man/woman.
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:06 pm |
Karekin, you know, "Happy people have no story" (stole this from a Therapy song
What I meant to say is that it is much less likely to read about someone with a great-love-of-his/her-life-story here, than about people who complain and/or want to share their negative experiences.
It's human nature. When people are happy, they enjoy their happiness and couldn't care less about the rest (and I don't mean this in a negative way, as long as they don't take their happiness for granted that's all fine by me btw)
Unhappy people need to share their story, look for advice/opinions/other people's similar experiences. Which is understandable as well.
TC is such a small community, it's easy to get a distorted image.
You need to find out and decide for yourself if you're happy in your relationship, you're the only one who knows.
But please don't let yourself be influenced by what you're reading here.
Sana, herkese de pek çok sevgiler dilerim!
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:07 pm |
of course you are right catwoman. Makes me very curious to know how was the relationship with these people up til the point that the man (seemingly) just up and left.
They make it sound as if things were great and then all of the sudden the man decided he no longer wanted to be there. I feel that my relationship has problems but I am a realist, and do realize that there is no such thing as a "perfect relationship". I also realize that my relationship has qualities that make it strong, strong enough to tackle the problems and hope for the best.
I just hope that somehow stories will surface that prove this is the rare occasion rather than the norm.
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:13 pm |
I think one must start everything over again by forgetting about all kinds of stories of people - whether bad or good. There will be no use in reading them, knowing about them. Even though you read millions of both bad and good -love- stories, you will still be alone in your own relationship. Because every new love relationship will be unique, too different than your previous ones and those of other people, full of unknowable and unpredictable things and affairs, unexperienced, like a child who learn how to walk and live in time. Briefly, each time only you and your partner will again and again be on the arena or in the field of love. Each time only you and your partner!
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:19 pm |
Quoting panta rei: I think one must start everything over again by forgetting about all kinds of stories of people - whether bad or good. There will be no use in reading them, knowing about them. Even though you read millions of both bad and good -love- stories, you will still be alone in your own relationship. Because every new love relationship will be unique, too different than your previous ones and those of other people, full of unknowable and predictable things and affairs, unexperienced, like a child who learn how to walk and live in time. Briefly, each time only you and your partner will again and again be on the arena or in the field of love. Each time only you and your partner! |
beautifully stated panta rei!
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:27 pm |
Quoting panta rei: I think one must start everything over again by forgetting about all kinds of stories of people - whether bad or good. There will be no use in reading them, knowing about them. Even though you read millions of both bad and good -love- stories, you will still be alone in your own relationship. Because every new love relationship will be unique, too different than your previous ones and those of other people, full of unknowable and unpredictable things and affairs, unexperienced, like a child who learn how to walk and live in time. Briefly, each time only you and your partner will again and again be on the arena or in the field of love. Each time only you and your partner! |
Perfectly said!
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12 May 2007 Sat 01:44 am |
Quoting karekin04:
They make it sound as if things were great and then all of the sudden the man decided he no longer wanted to be there. I feel that my relationship has problems but I am a realist, and do realize that there is no such thing as a "perfect relationship". I also realize that my relationship has qualities that make it strong, strong enough to tackle the problems and hope for the best. |
Im probaly 1 of these people that you are talking about, as I have had quite a lot of translation posts recently. I totally agree I also believe that there is no such thing as a perfect relationship ..however I had over 5 years with my husband and in like all marriages we had our problems not major but just usual stresses of day to day life work , finances etc.. Things were not always rosey but the majority of the time we were very happy and had a very normal loving relationship. To me his behaviour and attitude towards me changed very dramatically ..I f I dared to have an opinion of my own then there was trouble..I noticed a change in him after he had visited his family in turkey for the first time in 7 years when we came back to the Uk I felt he had lost all intrest in me as I had served my purpose..He had got the visa he had always wanted..Im not saying every Turkish bloke is the same..There are good and bad in every race and religion..I just wish all you women who are in relationships with Turkish men good luck, and to know how difficult it can be ..Only you can decide if he is Mr right
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