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meeting in İzmir!!!
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13 May 2007 Sun 09:44 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak:
I AM HAPPY THAT THE ADMIN OF THIS WEBPAGE CHANGED HIS MIND. BECAUSE LAST TIME HE DELETED MY POSTS WITHOUT ANY NOTICE. I SEE THAT THIS TOPIC IS HIGHLY POLITICAL TOO BUT THE ADMIN ALLOWS IT. THANK YOU ADMIN |
There is no need to broach the subject on a different thread, and also no need to talk in capitals.
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13 May 2007 Sun 10:22 pm |
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Robyn say = “yes ur right..but u know that political/religious discussions are banned on tc soâ€.
Kadersokak says = “ I do not understand the Turks they try to ban everythingâ€.
I have not lived in a foreign country.
Is the political and religious discussions are free to divide the country in the USA, UK, Germany, France, etc?
Because these countries have a lot of foreign nationalities and ethnical and rekligious groups.
I want to know?
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13 May 2007 Sun 10:25 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: Quoting qdemir: Quoting kaddersokak:
I AM HAPPY THAT THE ADMIN OF THIS WEBPAGE CHANGED HIS MIND. BECAUSE LAST TIME HE DELETED MY POSTS WITHOUT ANY NOTICE. I SEE THAT THIS TOPIC IS HIGHLY POLITICAL TOO BUT THE ADMIN ALLOWS IT. THANK YOU ADMIN |
There is no need to broach the subject on a different thread, and also no need to talk in capitals. |
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TURKS THEY TRY TO BAN EVERYHING: TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, HEADSCARF, WRITING WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND SO ON BUT U SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE FREEEEEE.... |
Interesting topic but writing in caps is so very frustrating to read properly and it also appears that the person is shouting.
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13 May 2007 Sun 10:40 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TURKS THEY TRY TO BAN EVERYHING: TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, HEADSCARF, WRITING WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND SO ON BUT U SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE FREEEEEE.... |
You scream so loud but I don't think they've heard you in Paraguay.
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13 May 2007 Sun 10:46 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TURKS THEY TRY TO BAN EVERYHING: TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, HEADSCARF, WRITING WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND SO ON BUT U SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE FREEEEEE.... |
I hope with 'banning political talks' you are not referring to Admin in general. That rule is only set up to keep the site in peace and let several people with different thoughts enjoy a community. At first I thought more freedom should be given on the topics of religion and politics, but the past has shown that many people on this website are not able of holding a normal polite discussion so I think it is a good rule. So yes, till people learn to discuss normally, those risk-topics should be banned
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14 May 2007 Mon 12:25 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting kaddersokak: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TURKS THEY TRY TO BAN EVERYHING: TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, HEADSCARF, WRITING WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND SO ON BUT U SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE FREEEEEE.... |
I hope with 'banning political talks' you are not referring to Admin in general. That rule is only set up to keep the site in peace and let several people with different thoughts enjoy a community. At first I thought more freedom should be given on the topics of religion and politics, but the past has shown that many people on this website are not able of holding a normal polite discussion so I think it is a good rule. So yes, till people learn to discuss normally, those risk-topics should be banned |
You are absolutely right. They should even ban the politics in Turkey and return to the "good old days" when the country was ruled by a Sultan without any oppositionI am just kidding. Yes, we do not know how to discuss. this is a general problem in Middle Eastern countries and for the Europeans this is hard to understand . However, the solution for that should not be banning dicussion if there is a forum entitled "Turkey", people should have right to talk and learn about the religion and politics in Turkey. We, Turks, should learn how to discuss and we should accept the fact that there can be people with multiple opposing ideas. This is democracy Banning does not solve anything...
back to the rally in Izmir, yes AK Party should see the opposing masses in Izmir. However, we should also see what the rest of the society think about democracy and authoritarian secularism. so, lets wait till the elections on July 23, 2007. I am happy that Turkey is a democratic country despite serious fault lines.
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14 May 2007 Mon 12:44 am |
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one more thing: for a better English, the title should be "the rally in Izmir" rather than "the meeting in Izmir." In turkish miting (meeting means rally but in english meeting does not mean rally.
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14 May 2007 Mon 05:48 pm |
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Those rallies in İstanbul, Ankara, İzmir and Manisa with the concurrent rise in nationalism scare me more than anything the AKP say.
Some of those on the demo would prefer a coup than to uphold the democratic process just because they don't like who might get elected.
A strange way to claim they are defending democracy.
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14 May 2007 Mon 06:03 pm |
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Quoting LCT: Those rallies in İstanbul, Ankara, İzmir and Manisa with the concurrent rise in nationalism scare me more than anything the AKP say. |
Sorry, but then you don't know anything about Turkey.
The nationalism of Atatürk is different than the nationalism that bases on fanaticsm, supremacy or racism.
I don't find it dangerous to be nationalistic in the way of Atatürk. It's the love for the republic, country and the people, and it bases on unity of all the people who loves their country.
The nationalistic mentality who killed Hrant Dink and the one that rallied in the last few weeks are not the same.
Globalism is not dangerous but nationalism is dangerous?? Globalism has become to serve some big countries over the other countries, it has become to serve the imperialism, what we lack with this government is not just the secularism but also the real kemalist nationalism. We don't want to make sacrifice from our nation's and country's values.
If those rallies scare somebodies, let them scare.
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14 May 2007 Mon 07:38 pm |
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Seems normal that political and religious, even cultural topics are always controversial whether in group or with just two individuals. The fact that there is a means to do so freely to the world..in this case an internet forum proves a good thing. A feeling of freedom of thought and expression without fear of some kind censorship from government. But as this is a language class, I do understand, and it is insightful to know that
turkish people enjoy the ability to express themselves freely and discuss current events whether controversial or not. I do understand though it is up to the forum administrators to pick and choose the 'environment' in which to making learning pleasant as possible. thanks
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14 May 2007 Mon 08:27 pm |
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Quoting LCT: Those rallies in İstanbul, Ankara, İzmir and Manisa with the concurrent rise in nationalism scare me more than anything the AKP say.
Some of those on the demo would prefer a coup than to uphold the democratic process just because they don't like who might get elected.
A strange way to claim they are defending democracy. |
I agree with you for the most part.
What's the deal with those people? Just wait for the election and vote for the party you wish to see in government. AKP was also elected democratically it's not like they are the ones who has overthrown democracy 3½ times.
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