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eurovision 2007
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1.       kurtlovesgrunge
1435 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 04:31 pm

has serbia deserved the first place???what s your favourite song???how was kenan???

2.       Loveprague
627 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 08:23 pm

I thought the Turkish song was quite good and I am really into rock music, as for the Eurovision it was quite a boring and fixed outcome, so many eastern european countries voting for each other. I would have picked Turkey, as England was also a very poor entry

3.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 08:25 pm

for the first time ever..i didnt watch it :-S

4.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 08:47 pm

It was funny how we got 12 points from France, the Netherlands, Germany and UK.
It was also interesting that Turkey gave 12 points to Armenie.

5.       Viktorija
46 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 08:56 pm

ewww

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 08:59 pm

I wonder whats wrong with lesbians, gays and bisexuals though? Whats everybodys problem with them these days? Neyse.. ses güzelse gözlerini kapatabilirsin değil mi

7.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 09:06 pm

I didn't have the impression that half of them were homosexuals though I had also a hard time to understand whether the serbian singer was a she or he

8.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 10:33 pm

I look beyond the person, and I thought Serbia deserved to win. She/he whatever, has a good voice and it was a nice song. So you are all OK with the virtually porngraphic outfits and display from Moldova? The eurovision is known for the wild and wacky - remember Dana International from Israel? A transexual. And now it is also known for the block voting by neighbouring countries. We watched the voting and guessed at who would give the final points to whom!

9.       duda
0 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 11:01 pm

Marija is she, and a daughter of a popular Serbian folk singer (famous by her performance of Gipsy songs). Well, she was not lucky to be born pretty, so she prefers that man-like style (which suits her much better than any nice skirt), but no, she is not a lesbian. She sincerelly prefers men. In fact, everybody say she is a very common and nice girl, a positive and cheerful person, though you can see her with a bottle of beer in her hand often. And she is very popular particulary because she is not pretty, not ladylike, and still has that wonderful voice... in contrast to those anorectic model-girls who don't have enough breath to sing a nursery song.

10.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 11:07 pm

No-one has mentioned the absolute death defying acrobatics, and the strange man in the egg thing who came out and promptly swallowed a fluorescent tube! all whilst the voting was taking place, certainly the highlight of the night for me! Yes I lead a dull and boring life generally lol

11.       Loveprague
627 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 11:16 pm

I stayed in also and watched it, Nes also thought that the winner was not the right choice for the winner of the contest. I must congratulate all the easern european countries that got to the final. The U.K. was such an embarrassment and I think that the competition was really a dissapointment after all, the acrobats were very good and I always like the points awarded part of the program. Can someone tell me when they went to The Netherlands for their points total the capital was not displayed as Amsterdam?

12.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 11:25 pm

Quoting Loveprague:

Can someone tell me when they went to The Netherlands for their points total the capital was not displayed as Amsterdam?



I didn't see it, what city was displayed? Den Haag? Hilversum?

13.       Loveprague
627 posts
 13 May 2007 Sun 11:27 pm

I cannot remember Trudy but it certainly was not Amsterdam that I do know.

14.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 12:32 pm

I think it was in Almere.. Which is certainly not the capital city of Hollandi but thats where Paul de Leeuws studio for his programme 'Mooi weer de Leeuw' is situated.. and i think the points from Holland were broadcasted from there.

15.       LCT
25 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 05:15 pm

The Serbian singer was clearly a woman and how anyone can fail to recognize her as such I don't know.

Does everyone have to fall into such narrow stereotypes?

I don't think it's particularly helpful to cast aspersions on people's sexuality.

Whether someone is gay or lesbian or otherwise has nothing to do with their ability to sing.

She gave without doubt the best performance of the evening.
She was streets above the others in terms of vocal ability and that is why she won.

16.       KeithL
1455 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 05:41 pm

Quoting LCT:

She gave without doubt the best performance of the evening.
She was streets above the others in terms of vocal ability and that is why she won.



Keith's Eurovision Quiz Question

Anyone who has watched this event at least once knows:

A. talent alone does not win this event.
B. that they can predict 2 of the 3 top votes for each country
C. Cyprus will give 12 points to Greece automatically
D. Turkey's 12 points for Armenia is the closest to an apology they will ever get.
E. All of the above

17.       mltm
3690 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 05:45 pm

Quoting KeithL:


D. Turkey's 12 points for Armenia is the closest to an apology they will ever get.



It's believed that it is the armenian diaspora that exists in Turkey that has supported Armenia.

18.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 06:02 pm

Quoting Viktorija:

This Eurovision contest was the biggest gay i've ever seen! omg half singers were gays or lesbians or bi it was funny as.. hmm... And by the way Serbian singer it was she or he? lol Kenan was good but the song..idont know...his song cakkidi is much better. anyway i dont think that i will watch it ever again hhhhrrr im angry... u think that serbia deserved 1st place?? i dont think so i wont talk 'bout Lithuanian song at all it was omg...



Wow, this is such a horrible, homophobic post! Where did you learn this Viktoria?

19.       ani_istanbul
65 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 06:40 pm





apology for Armenians living in Turkey that sms-ed?


20.       mltm
3690 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 07:13 pm

Quoting ani_istanbul:

Quoting mltm:


D. Turkey's 12 points for Armenia is the closest to an apology they will ever get.





apology for Armenians living in Turkey that sms-ed?




Hey, you quoted accidentally from me. I didn't write it. Could you change it please?

21.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 07:18 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Viktorija:

This Eurovision contest was the biggest gay i've ever seen! omg half singers were gays or lesbians or bi it was funny as.. hmm... And by the way Serbian singer it was she or he? lol Kenan was good but the song..idont know...his song cakkidi is much better. anyway i dont think that i will watch it ever again hhhhrrr im angry... u think that serbia deserved 1st place?? i dont think so i wont talk 'bout Lithuanian song at all it was omg...



Wow, this is such a horrible, homophobic post! Where did you learn this Viktoria?



Naivety speaks volumes here! Brush aside Catwoman

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 07:44 pm

Quoting libralady:

Naivety speaks volumes here! Brush aside Catwoman



Very wise, Libralady . It nauseates me though to see such ignorance... The girl has a lot of growing up to do.

23.       Aggela
1 posts
 14 May 2007 Mon 07:48 pm

Cyprus had a good entry -_-" I dnt know why it didn't get in ... Ukraine's song was horrible!!! I don't understand how they reached second place! Best songs for me in order of preference are:

1. Bulgaria
2. Turkey
3. Greece

Everything else was horrible this year. But you have to admit politics and geography has a lot to do with this competition. One reason why Cyprus and Greece give each other 12 points

24.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 06:00 am

Well, I think that Greece and Turkey were horrible, dunno about Bulgaria. The best one was absolutely Iceland. I liked Germany, before I found out what their lyrics mean (so you know, he's singing about and glorifying "A Nice Guy Syndrome"). And of course Serbia.. . Serbia also had a great song in 2005 Eurovision (maybe I should see their lyrics too before saying that I like it ).

25.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 06:13 am

did people really like bulgaria's entry??

the drumming and music were amazing, yes.

but the singing?? erm, not my cup of tea

26.       duda
0 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 07:22 am

Quoting gezbelle:

did people really like bulgaria's entry??

the drumming and music were amazing, yes.

but the singing?? erm, not my cup of tea



It's just a traditional Bulgarian style of singing (also you can hear it in some parts of eastern Serbia and Macedonia), and it has become very popular again with the revival of ethno music (similar to what happened to Irish music). If you listen to Hevia, Deepforest or (especially) D-Emotion (I recommend song Pritouritze, featuring Stevka Sabatinova), you will hear lot of that or similar singing technique. It's very hard to learn it, maybe one of many thousand women can perform it, and the most of them were learning to sing that way from the early childhood. And of course, you need a special kind of genes to sing it and love it... I am of those who love it, but I suppose it may sound weird to someone who is not used to that kind of music. But it's very appriciated world-wide lately, and some of Bulgarian singers made great careers in Europe thanks to their traditional singing. (Ohhhhh... now it's obvious I am a fun of ethno music. )

27.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 07:33 am

Quoting gezbelle:

did people really like bulgaria's entry??

the drumming and music were amazing, yes.

but the singing?? erm, not my cup of tea




1) Ukraine
2) Turkey
3) Greece

That's how my list of favourite songs were. I don't like the style of Bulgaria to be honest. With all these drums and so on... They looked like Shamans. (Although they were not ) And I didnt like its music, either.
Moreover I believe Turkey's voting for Armenia was mainly on political reasons. No Turk would vote 12 for that song. It is either Armenians themselves in Turkey who voted so or it is arranged in some way by Turkish goverment or something to create some sympathy with Armenia. Why not? Isn't Eurovision regarded way too serious than its purpose in Turkey? But I believe there is no need for all these a*s- Licking. It is also a shame that all these old communist countries are simply supporting each other just because of their previous ideology. I mean... Come on people, it is music. Not politics. Live a life ! I believe this is the shame of Eurovision and Europe not to be able to distinguish politics from music.

28.       LCT
25 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 12:09 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting LCT:

She gave without doubt the best performance of the evening.
She was streets above the others in terms of vocal ability and that is why she won.



Keith's Eurovision Quiz Question

Anyone who has watched this event at least once knows:

A. talent alone does not win this event.
B. that they can predict 2 of the 3 top votes for each country
C. Cyprus will give 12 points to Greece automatically
D. Turkey's 12 points for Armenia is the closest to an apology they will ever get.
E. All of the above




I said the best performance....

That does not only include singing...

I do agree that Balkan countries have come to dominate the event recently.

But if that is true, Why Serbia and not the countless other Balkan countries there.

I was with friends that night and I said Serbia's song was the best, but that It won't win because that's not a prerequisite for winning.

But heh, something unusual this time, in that as far as I am concerned the best song actually won...

29.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 02:38 pm

30.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 06:03 pm

No, they don^t deserve, because their song is stolen.

Serbia's song is stolen from an albanian song, the albanian authorities will want their championship be deleted.
They are right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZFhfJn7E1I

31.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 06:10 pm

Quoting mltm:

No, they don^t deserve, because their song is stolen.



Yeah, I heard that too this morning on the radio, they compared the two songs and the similarities were too obvious to be coincidental..

32.       duda
0 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 07:03 pm

I've seen the clip... but no, there are almost no similarities. The accords are absolutely different, and the melody line is similar only in one or two short places... plagiat formally means at least 4 tacts of identical accords/harmonies and of identical melody line. So maybe it sounds similar, but it isn't plagiat. (If you try to play it on any instrument which allows accords - like piano or guitar - you will see it's absolutely different. I tried it myself.) Not that I am defending Serbia, on the contrary - I love discovering plagiats. In 2005 (or in 2006? I think it was 2005) Irish Eurovision song had the same refrain as a Bosnian song which was VERY popular year or two before that (find MERLIN - "Kremen" and compare - stolen or a coincidence?), and the worst world's shame was the Pulp Fiction movie theme "Pumpkin And Honey Bunny/Misirlou" - absolutely stolen from Serbian song "Vranjanka" (singer StaniÅ¡a StoÅ¡ić ). Try to find it on net... and enjoy!

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