OOFFF!
I don't think anyone was trying to suggest the Taliban were representative of all men. BUT the point being made by Aslan and myself, is that the Taliban's actions are a continuation of the kind of oppression of women that has been going for hundreds of years and created the situation that still continues all over the world.

surely you can condemn the violation of human rights, even if you don´t call yourself a feminist.

but really speaking out for human rights might lead to you being called a feminist anyway.
It´s happened to me before..

You are absolutely right Ilka.

Everyone should speak out about human rights generally and as you have said, this can lead to making feminist statements. Its just in this particular case, The overwhelming issue was a feminist issue. Of course the rights of a teacher to teach should be inviolate but the whole issue is that the teacher was killed for educating women and that makes the wider issue a feminist issue.

How funny how this came out of a joke-thread.. not funny after all anymore.

It's getting time that there is no longer need for a word as 'feminism', because that would mean that men and women have the same rights. 'Feminism' implies there are still differences in right between men and women. Maybe that is the reason I'm not too keen on the word. So i hope we are not too far from the day that the word 'Feminism' will slowly dissapear from common vocabulary and end up in history books.. "those old times in which women were not having the same rights like men. Hard to imagine, isn't it, kizim?"

Your vision is wonderful! ...I hope it will happen in our lifetime!!!

I don't believe men realise that women are discriminated against on a regular basis and if, perhaps, they truly examined their thoughts about all aspects of women they would agree. We don't want to be EQUAL to men - I like the fact we are different, but I want to be treated with the same respect as a man. That is all.

I once worked in a sales office and (amazingly) was in a management role there. The Sales Director (a man) would always tell me how forward-thinking he was for employing me and that he was NOT a sexist. Then, one day, we had to replace one of the sales administration team. We were discussing this and he said to me:-
"I think we should try to employ a man in this role this time".
"Why" I asked
"Because the administration role is good training for sales managment, and if a man were in that role he could eventually be a sales manager"
SAY NO MORE..........!!
:-S

i rather admired her
and I voted for her twice