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1.       MalatyaGirl
160 posts
 21 Jun 2007 Thu 03:15 pm

This subject has been brought up so many times but I was wondering how many of TC users have had successful relationships with a Turkish man or woman?

There is so much controversy so I wanted to try and pull together all the positive stories to redress the balance a little!

I was cautious when I met my partner whilst spending time with friends on holiday. I had heard the resort stories and was not interested in anything other than relaxing with friends and exploring the coast a little.
A resort worker started to approach me, just talking about every day things..his resort life, his family, his friends, likes and dislikes and we fell easily into conversation. I had no expectations and just enjoyed the company and making new friends. It wasn't until the end of our holiday that I felt that connection with him. We exchanged numbers but I never expected any developments once I left the country. I thought of him often but was just happy to have known him.
But once I returned home, and he went home to his family, we remained close.
Long story short, we have never been happier or more content with our lives. Before his National Service we spent a long time in eachother's company. We have worked through any problems and fears and discuss everything openly and as equals. He has shown me a completely new culture and way of life...really broadened my horizons and increased my love of Turkey through his passion for his country. I intend to start a life over there as soon as he is discharged from the army.

I had the same concerns and fears about the "holiday romance" but in my case it had the best possible ending.
I just wanted to share this and was wondering if anyone else had similar stories to share?

2.       Capoeira
575 posts
 21 Jun 2007 Thu 03:58 pm

You are right. This topic has been written on and discussed to many times! Always with the same results...a huge debate about over-generalızation and the promotion of stereotypes!

3.       MelekUK
280 posts
 21 Jun 2007 Thu 04:18 pm

I agree with you. So much generalising and debating and the fact is there is no answer to the arguement. It just goes on and on. Not really productive!!!!

However, I do get tired of the negativity & generalisation that floats about. It would be nice to hear of a few of the happier threads to dispel a little of the "holiday romance" ideas. Maybe dilute some of the generalisations a little? For those who are in such relationships, I think it's only healthy to say "yes this and this can happen" "but it doesn't always have to be the case".

4.       azade
1606 posts
 21 Jun 2007 Thu 08:56 pm

I'm a happy example

But I'd never recommend anyone to engage in this kind of relationship, because even if you're both genuine about it, the first years are just an endless struggle. For us it wasn't so much because of cultural differences, we coped with that pretty quickly, it's problems that our respective countries throw at us constantly. I'm danish but we have to live in either Sweden or Germany for the years to come, because they don't allow us to live in my home country but I need an education and there's no way we, as students, could support ourselves in Turkey.
So my advice to everyone would be..don't even think about entering this kind of relationship. Too many problems.
Personally I'm really happy with the way things turned out but generally speaking the success rate is so low, so.

5.       MelekUK
280 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 09:29 am

So what happened? Are you now together? I'm glad everything worked out good for you in the end!

6.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 09:54 am

Quoting azade:

I'm a happy example

But I'd never recommend anyone to engage in this kind of relationship, because even if you're both genuine about it, the first years are just an endless struggle. For us it wasn't so much because of cultural differences, we coped with that pretty quickly, it's problems that our respective countries throw at us constantly. I'm danish but we have to live in either Sweden or Germany for the years to come, because they don't allow us to live in my home country but I need an education and there's no way we, as students, could support ourselves in Turkey.
So my advice to everyone would be..don't even think about entering this kind of relationship. Too many problems.
Personally I'm really happy with the way things turned out but generally speaking the success rate is so low, so.



why only sweden or germany?

and why don't they allow you both to live in denmark??

7.       longinotti1
1090 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 10:28 am

I am only a humble student that uses the translation requests as a means of practice, but wonder about the ethics of facilitating these relationships. Just now somebody asked in English how say, "I want to share my life with you" and then a few lines later. "what is you last name".

But you look where the requestor comes from and think about what this says about the men that they live..

But here in this virtual "community" we know that "persons" seeking these relationship with Turks with who they can't "speak" directly, are the "fuel" that drive (insallah) TURKISH ClASS along.

Azade has shared his life story with us and i sincerely hope that it continues well. We that inhabit the Tranlation Forum see that many other outcomes are possible as we get see it unfold.

8.       MalatyaGirl
160 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 11:45 am

I agree. I think the translators on TC must see an awful lot of relationships unfolding and it must raise questions for you. Some great relationships, some not so good. But I suppose at the end of the day it is not so much the CONTENT of the request that is important...it is the encouragement it gives to learn. It is merely a learning tool for others.

I would like to think you translate a lot of positive messages aswell...men and women wishing to convey good news and happiness. People expressing their love is never a bad thing (but you must have to translate Seni Seviyorum SO many times!).

My partner and I communicate very well in English, but I use the translation service to convey certain messages I need him to understand, and to show an interest in his language! His family speak very very little english indeed so it is so important I try and learn so I'm not relying on my partner all the time. Once a translation has been made, I will take it to compare with my own and learn from it.



9.       azade
1606 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 03:47 pm

Quoting MelekUK:

So what happened? Are you now together? I'm glad everything worked out good for you in the end!



Yes we are We'll he's in the army right now but that's just another bump in the road. I'm going to see his family in a week from now.

Quoting gezbelle:

why only sweden or germany?

and why don't they allow you both to live in denmark??



No the laws are so strict that he can't live in Denmark until I'm 28. It's a discriminating law but the government doesn't care even the slightest.
The reason we're going to stay in Sweden or Germany is that I can still study in Denmark that way.
In the long run we want to live in Turkey, partly because I'm just fed up with all the crap the danish immigration"service" throws at us. I don't really feel danish anymore, whatever that means.
It's pretty pathetic that Sweden allows to live there when I'm not even a swedish citizen, but my own country doesn't.

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Yeah some of the things posted in the translation forum are really private, others so basic that anyone requesting translations should have learnt it already. But whatever floats their boat, it's still good practice for the translators.
I'm so glad to be learning turkish, although I haven't had much time lately. The language I speak with my husband is a mix of turkish and english, hopefully in time we won't need english anymore.

10.       MalatyaGirl
160 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 04:25 pm

I'm glad you are still together. You didn't say so in your post

I understand you saying you don't recommend anyone embark on such a relationship...it's really difficult isn't it. I completely understand. But at the end of the day, you can't choose who you fall for. You just have to do what you can and make the most of it!


My husband and I are also halfway through the army...it's tough but like you said it's just a small bump in the road. Where is he based? Kütahya? It's a very disciplined base!

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