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Turkish boyfriends
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:06 pm |
if your turkish boyfriend was cheating is it right that their friends wouldnt tell you? is it also ok for a turkish guy to have a turkish and english girlfriend?
Just something i was thinking about. hope someone is able to help me.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:09 pm |
Why analyse it - just dump him !
Yes, it is USUAL, if he is using you and following the normal pattern of tourist workers. He will get what he can out of you, then marry a Turkish girl!
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:13 pm |
Quoting lilchels1990: if your turkish boyfriend was cheating is it right that their friends wouldnt tell you? is it also ok for a turkish guy to have a turkish and english girlfriend?
Just something i was thinking about. hope someone is able to help me. |
If its "his friends" and they are male, there's a strong probability that they wouldn't tell you. Is it a surprise?
There's not anything that's right for the turkish guy, it depends the moralities. Some would find it ok, some wouldn't. And also it depends how much you count for him.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:17 pm |
i wernt talking about it for my boyfriend. i know someone who has a turkish and an english girlfriend and they know about eachother. i thought that was weird. no my boyfriend hasnt asked for a mobile all he wants is chocolate. my boyfriends friends are protective of me and my boyfriend gets jealous easily if a boy comes near me and says turkish girls are a problem for him. i doubt he is cheating
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:19 pm |
Quoting lilchels1990: i wernt talking about it for my boyfriend. i know someone who has a turkish and an english girlfriend and they know about eachother. i thought that was weird. no my boyfriend hasnt asked for a mobile all he wants is chocolate. my boyfriends friends are protective of me and my boyfriend gets jealous easily if a boy comes near me and says turkish girls are a problem for him. i doubt he is cheating  |
All turkish boys get jealous easily it's more about ownership than love
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:27 pm |
ive been with him nearly 2 years..... i think maybe i would know by now if he was cheating.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:29 pm |
Quoting lilchels1990: ive been with him nearly 2 years..... i think maybe i would know by now if he was cheating. |
I didn't imply he was! Does he know you posted your picture here?
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:32 pm |
Interesting topic... After I get to know my male turkish friends, I realise that they can be quite emotional. I don't mean this in a bad way but from where I come from it can get quite overwhelming. After I get to know my special male friend it got intensed. I wasn't even allowed to add his friends on msn but I allowed him to add my friends. To me its pretty normal but not to him. He admits that he gets envious easily. I would hate to think that all turkish males are the same, that'll be stereotyping but I've been to different forums to read about turkish males and the issue of jealousy are always pointed out. Guess I have to set foot on Turkey to really find out.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:34 pm |
Quoting mltm: If its "his friends" and they are male, there's a strong probability that they wouldn't tell you. Is it a surprise?
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I agree (now THATs a surprise!) - I dont think this is anything Turkish - it would be the same whatever nationality they were!
Your question seems strange - if your English friend knows that her boyfriend has another girlfriend, why the hell is she still with him?
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:52 pm |
Everyone that's in love can become jealous, and if my bf does not get bothered when another male (not every male ofcourse) approaches me , it makes me disappointed and frustrated, but I admit that many turkish males sometimes get over jeaolous and it becomes very annoying.
My ex bf used to check my mobile phone everytime we met, if he found a number that he did not know, he would question it, and even take the number to call it, if I refused to give him my mobile, he would get extremely angry, and if I wanted to check his mobile phone, he wouldn't give it to me. He wouldn't want me to chat, he would want to know my msn password to check the people I added, on the contrary he would not give me his. He wanted to have his private but he did not respect my private. These kinds of double standards about jealousy are signs that he would not find anything wrong if he cheated you.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:53 pm |
my bf lets me add his friends on msn and he only has one of my friends. its not my friend my nan told me about this guy who had an english and turkish gf hes finished with the english one now tho.
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09 Jul 2007 Mon 08:55 pm |
Quoting lilchels1990: my bf lets me add his friends on msn and he only has one of my friends. its not my friend my nan told me about this guy who had an english and turkish gf hes finished with the english one now tho. |
Thats good. Does he know you posted your picture here? If not, expect fireworks
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:23 am |
We had several conversations with various resort workers from waiters, to sales men, to paragliders and uhmmm they all seem to have a string of girls, English, German, Dutch, whatever .......... but then two of them told us they were getting married in November. "Oh yes I said, and would that be a Turkish girl?" "Oh of course they replied!"
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 01:27 pm |
to write down here later
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 07:01 pm |
Quoting Pizza: to write down here later |
Are you thinking out loud Pizza? :-S
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 07:28 pm |
Quoting libralady: "Oh yes I said, and would that be a Turkish girl?" "Oh of course they replied!" |
Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 07:54 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting libralady: "Oh yes I said, and would that be a Turkish girl?" "Oh of course they replied!" |
Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it  |
Yes, where else could they find a guaranteed virgin (lets ignore the fact that the man is usually NOT one!) who will serve her husband like a slave and give up her independence and ignore his "indiscretions"
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 08:13 pm |
in the east when men prostitute its absolutely ok and even they are praised, the society of people like mltm takes it very normal.
when women try to experience even just dating (not speaking of sex) they are called whores and theres no respect for them and in some dark parts of those societies those poor girls maybe killed "for honor".
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 09:14 pm |
Quoting mltm: Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it  |
I'm not sure if it's more naive or arrogant? :-S
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 09:56 pm |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it  |
I'm not sure if it's more naive or arrogant? :-S |
it is BOTH of backward mentality.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 10:22 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it  |
I'm not sure if it's more naive or arrogant? :-S |
it is BOTH of backward mentality. |
HA HA HA
Maybe I do it intentionally.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 10:25 pm |
Quoting aenigma x:
Yes, where else could they find a guaranteed virgin |
You talk as if you made a virginity test to all the turkish girls.
And it's not all about virginity, they see that they have more common things with the girls of their own country.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:02 pm |
Quoting mltm: And it's not all about virginity, they see that they have more common things with the girls of their own country. |
Ouh sorry Meltem, actually I learned about this "tradition" from posts (by Turkish members) on this webesite
No doubt its yet another subject you would prefer to deceive us about as it conflicts with your "modern Turkish girl" image?
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:24 pm |
Quoting aenigma x:
No doubt its yet another subject you would prefer to deceive us about as it conflicts with your "modern Turkish girl" image?  |
Why would I want to deceive you?
I just wanted to make you notice that even though if you asked turkish men, the majority would say that they prefer to marry a virgin, it's just a preference, and in fact in the end there're a lot who do not marry with. They just hide from the society. In turkish society, the couples do not live together before marriage, but it does not mean that every couple stay away from sex.
I know as a turkish girl that there're a lot of young turkish girl who sleep with their boyfriends, yet they never go around talking about it, they hide it from their families and neighbours, and between friends they can very well pretend that they are virgins.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:27 pm |
Quoting mltm: I just wanted to make you notice that even though if you asked turkish men, the majority would say that they prefer to marry with a virgin, it's just a preference, and in fact in the end there're a lot who do not marry with.
I know as a turkish girl that there're a lot of young turkish girl who sleep with their boyfriend, yet they never go around talking about it, they hide it from their families and neighbours, and between friends they can very well pretend that they are virgins. |
Mltm finally spit out the truth about Turkish modern ideas! I feel so sorry for those boys and girls that have this mentality... The cult of virginity belongs to 7th century.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:28 pm |
angime
why dont you believe her?
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:40 pm |
Quoting catwoman: The cult of virginity belongs to 7th century. |
I don't think it dates that old. Tell me in the beginnings of 1900s or even in the 1950s-60s in europe sex was not a taboo thing?
Societies evolve slowly. Today we can find turkish men who prefer to marry a virgin, but could marry with a non virgin. There are turkish men for whom virginity is not personally very important, but they say that it's important just to suit the society. And lastly there're turkish men although relatively rare who without any worry of society view say openly that for them virginity has no importance. I think this is already an evolution, until they completely understand that virgin girl is not equal to decent girl.
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:42 pm |
I see the gang of three are out in force tonight
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:43 pm |
Quoting mltm: I think this is already an evolution, until they completely understand that virgin girl is not equal to decent girl.
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+10000000000000000000
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10 Jul 2007 Tue 11:47 pm |
Quoting bydand: I see the gang of three are out in force tonight |
Interesting to note your views about Turkish boyfriends
The "gang of three" you so love to keep referring to is nothing more than people who share opinions on some topics, but not all.
I know nothing about about Femme Fatal ( ) and have only occasionally PM'd with Catwoman, so we are no more of a "gang" than you and Meltem were yesterday
Still, nice to see you back with your sarcastic one-liners.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 12:00 am |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting bydand: I see the gang of three are out in force tonight |
Interesting to note your views about Turkish boyfriends
The 'gang of three' you so love to keep referring to is nothing more than people who share opinions on some topics, but not all.
I know nothing about about Femme Fatal ( ) and have only occasionally PM'd with Catwoman, so we are no more of a 'gang' than you and Meltem were yesterday
Still, nice to see you back with your sarcastic one-liners. |
hey, you know nothing of me? you evil westerner! i shall have a word with Mahircan tonight!
but they (not us) defend the image of turkey! they are heros! they pm each other thinking how wonderful they are and heroic to stand against such enemies like 'turkish haters' (though i've never in my life met such thinking 'russian haters', 'german haters', 'american haters') if the image of turkey is left to these kids to protect then it must be indeed in deep troubles!
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 12:05 am |
Quoting femme_fatal:
hey, you know nothing of me? you evil westerner! i shall have a word with Mahircan tonight!
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Well...only that you are the evil but beautiful twin sister of Borat
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 06:11 am |
Quoting mltm: until they completely understand that virgin girl is not equal to decent girl. |
Dear mltm, I want to point out the fact that they have no particular benefit to come to this realization unless we, women, take this issue in our hands. Unfortunately, there are few decent and morally responsible men who stand up for women's rights.
I suggest that we start a male virginity cult. That has a very high (99%) probability that it will equal to a decent man.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 06:32 am |
Quote: Maybe, after having tested various girls from all over the world, they realized in the end that turkish girls were the best Sometimes, it takes time to see it  |
You know.... (after having a few drinks and feeling catty) I'd just like to say that most of what you say bothers me..... makes me laugh really.
Are you married dear Meltem??? You seem to be such a pro at relationships and turkish men, I'm curious to know if your virginess has won herself the richest man in Turkey yet?
No? Well let me first say this, its not that most men have "realized" anything... most of them just don't want to fight... maybe against society, maybe parents, maybe friends who knows??
What I know for sure is dont fool yourself that for one second your opinionated "modern" ass is preferred over anyone elses, just the fact that you sit here and talk openly is to much to exclude you from "the best" turkish girl
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 01:25 pm |
Quoting catwoman:
I suggest that we start a male virginity cult. That has a very high (99%) probability that it will equal to a decent man. |
The problem is there's not a way to tell if a man is virgin or not.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 01:38 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting aenigma x:
Yes, where else could they find a guaranteed virgin |
You talk as if you made a virginity test to all the turkish girls.
And it's not all about virginity, they see that they have more common things with the girls of their own country. |
Yes it is not all about virginity. Me being me, I asked if they had sex with Turkish girls and the ones I asked said yes. So I queried the virginity theory and they told me, more and more, Turkish girls (particularly in major towns and cities I expect - less so in the country) do not remain virgins until they marry.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 01:44 pm |
Quoting karekin04:
You know.... (after having a few drinks and feeling catty) I'd just like to say that most of what you say bothers me..... makes me laugh really.
Are you married dear Meltem??? You seem to be such a pro at relationships and turkish men, I'm curious to know if your virginess has won herself the richest man in Turkey yet?
No? Well let me first say this, its not that most men have "realized" anything... most of them just don't want to fight... maybe against society, maybe parents, maybe friends who knows??
What I know for sure is dont fool yourself that for one second your opinionated "modern" ass is preferred over anyone elses, just the fact that you sit here and talk openly is to much to exclude you from "the best" turkish girl |
Yeah, it really looks like you have drunk too much.
I just made humor there which is probably something you lack.
I'm not a professional on anything yet, but probably I know turkish men better than you.
I accept that some of them just do not want to fight against the society and they look for a girl his family and society would accept easily (religion has also a big factor in this), but again there's also another thing that need to be said, most of them would prefer a turkish girl to a muslim arab girl too, then we cannot refuse the having been raised in the same country and culture factor too. it's not just about virginity or being a slave, because some of them would go so far in preference that they do not marry out of their village or city. So, it's not totally correct to relate it to just the virginity factor.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 03:07 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal:
but they (not us) defend the image of turkey! they are heros! they pm each other thinking how wonderful they are and heroic to stand against such enemies like 'turkish haters' (though i've never in my life met such thinking 'russian haters', 'german haters', 'american haters') if the image of turkey is left to these kids to protect then it must be indeed in deep troubles! |
Femme Fatal. There are many sociological systems. For instance, in the American system individuality is essence. There're also some countries where individuality is essence to some extent. In those counries, protecting a nation by an individual doesn't make any sense whatsoever. People think that they are responsible for themselves. But there're some countries where collectivity is essence. An individual is supposed to be responsible for protecting nation. For instance, In Turkey an individual, Ataturk saved the Turkish people and ordered all individuals to protect Turkey. This is very clear in his speech "Genclige hitabe", which is a must to learn for all Turkish students.
So the difference between these two reality is why you find Turkish people ridiculous.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 04:12 pm |
Quote: Yeah, it really looks like you have drunk too much.
I just made humor there which is probably something you lack.
I'm not a professional on anything yet, but probably I know turkish men better than you.
I accept that some of them just do not want to fight against the society and they look for a girl his family and society would accept easily (religion has also a big factor in this), but again there's also another thing that need to be said, most of them would prefer a turkish girl to a muslim arab girl too, then we cannot refuse the having been raised in the same country and culture factor too. it's not just about virginity or being a slave, because some of them would go so far in preference that they do not marry out of their village or city. So, it's not totally correct to relate it to just the virginity factor.
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see thats the thing... I do, have a great sense of humor, I wasn't only talking about the virginity part its most of what you say really, you make small insults suggesting you are better then other girls then try to play it off as humor? Now thats a joke! I like the part about "most men planning to go back to turkey someday part" .... now thats funny. Of course they would, everyone misses their home. I do want to say that I'm not trying to attack you, its just that some things you say really get under my skin, because it seems like you claim to be open minded and "modern" but its almost like under the surface you are screaming .... "leave our turkish men alone", it comes off as a bit racist or something. Maybe I am wrong.
Let me be sure I am clear on something ok? So basically what you are saying is the turkish men kindoff want to run around and do their own "thing" for awhile but eventually will "settle" ... or in your words "realize" that they want a turkish woman? You must feel so special. Reminds me of a girl that likes to date the "bad boys" but only wants to marry a rich guy. I see now where you got your views on love
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 05:34 pm |
Quoting karekin04: Reminds me of a girl that likes to date the "bad boys" but only wants to marry a rich guy. |
What is wrong with that? Perfect I would say!!! Have your cake and eat it So long as the rich guy is old and one good "session" would finish him of course and the will has been written
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 05:47 pm |
Quoting karekin04:
because it seems like you claim to be open minded and "modern" but its almost like under the surface you are screaming .... "leave our turkish men alone", it comes off as a bit racist or something. Maybe I am wrong.
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I couldn't care less I'm not the owner of turkish men, anyone can marry who they want. I've moved to France, and maybe the one I'll marry won't be a turc, I'm not so very keen in getting married with a turkish man. You have had a problem with turkish girls or what?
As I said what I said before about that turkish girls were the best, it was just a joke, you say that you understand that it's joke, but you still talk about looking down on people. Pathetic!
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 06:05 pm |
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You have had a problem with turkish girls or what?
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just one and no, never said i got your pathetic joke... perhaps you need to watch more HBO stand up specials.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 06:48 pm |
Quote: What is wrong with that? Perfect I would say!!! Have your cake and eat it So long as the rich guy is old and one good "session" would finish him of course and the will has been written |
now thats humour!
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 07:17 pm |
Quote: Quoting karekin04:
You have had a problem with turkish girls or what?
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just one and no, never said i got your pathetic joke... perhaps you need to watch more HBO stand up specials. |
Sorry, but I do not learn humour from someone else. You like it or not, just do not come to my show hehe
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 07:26 pm |
Quote: just do not come to my show hehe |
touche... well done meltem
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 09:02 pm |
Quoting mltm: just do not come to my show hehe |
Unfortunately, some of us found ourselves in the audience - even though we never bought a ticket!
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 09:22 pm |
Quoting aenigma x:
Unfortunately, some of us found ourselves in the audience - even though we never bought a ticket! |
And what about your shows?
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 09:24 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting aenigma x:
Unfortunately, some of us found ourselves in the audience - even though we never bought a ticket! |
And what about your shows? |
Mine are usually sold out quicker than a "back from the dead Beatles reunion concert"
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 09:28 pm |
I know this will upset you, but I have to go now Melty. The stage is all yours.......(for cleaning)
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 09:36 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: I know this will upset you, but I have to go now Melty. The stage is all yours.......(for cleaning)  |
OK, no problem.
Yesterday the cleaning was yours after I left, and today is mine.
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 11:34 pm |
Quoting mltm: Yesterday the cleaning was yours after I left, and today is mine. |
You know aenigma, I (mltm) don't have to always clean up my shit, sometimes you can do it for me (like yesterday), but I can take my turn today!
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11 Jul 2007 Wed 11:39 pm |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Yesterday the cleaning was yours after I left, and today is mine. |
You know aenigma, I don't have to always clean up my shit , |
Eh?
Ne?
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 12:41 am |
i think all women and girls will pass away be4 don't to get nature of men's nature
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 01:15 am |
Quoting MrX67: i think all women and girls will pass away be4 don't to get nature of men's nature |
I hope men pass away first
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 01:55 am |
men almost always passed away first according to a study.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 06:35 am |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Yesterday the cleaning was yours after I left, and today is mine. |
You know aenigma, I don't have to always clean up my shit , |
Eh?
Ne?
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I apologize Aenigma, please ignore that message, it was a stupid joke...
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 06:37 am |
Quoting MrX67: i think all women and girls will pass away be4 don't to get nature of men's nature |
Men's nature is very simple to get, it's just the truth that hurts.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 12:05 pm |
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 12:26 pm |
ham Quoting vineyards: Males target females for purposes other than marriage and vice versa. If the male is Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt all his motives are perfectly justifiable because there is an element of opportunity in it. Then those expensive weapons of visual and scented sophistication are drawn and those usual make-believe attitudes are taken up.
I don't want to make a comparison but I see that you have already started making some yourselves: so tell me who represents you women globally today? Who is the most prominent woman in the world today? Is she Paris Hilton?
Before you try to come up with another answer remember:
1. She is not better known than Hilton.
2. It is this corrupt capitalist culture that turns males and females into what they are. |
Naw not Paris, must be Victoria Beckham
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 03:02 pm |
Quoting bydand: ham Quoting vineyards: Males target females for purposes other than marriage and vice versa. If the male is Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt all his motives are perfectly justifiable because there is an element of opportunity in it. Then those expensive weapons of visual and scented sophistication are drawn and those usual make-believe attitudes are taken up.
I don't want to make a comparison but I see that you have already started making some yourselves: so tell me who represents you women globally today? Who is the most prominent woman in the world today? Is she Paris Hilton?
Before you try to come up with another answer remember:
1. She is not better known than Hilton.
2. It is this corrupt capitalist culture that turns males and females into what they are. |
Naw not Paris, must be Victoria Beckham |
I reckon it must be the "iconic" Jade Goody?
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