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Cult of Virginity
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 12:27 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: I rather thought they would promote the same views that Meltem does!  |
I'd hope that they would do that too.
Culture is formed by us, and as time passes as we civilize, cultures as well civilize and should civilize with us, and if our aim is to be civilized, the backward traditidions, the traditions which contradict strongly with human rights should be eliminated as well. Culture is a living thing, so it's in our hands to make it better without losing our identity and history. And for the ministry of culture, I find it very backward and shameful to brng these traditions on to their page, how do this people with this mentality govern me? And there just under the picture of Atatürk? Sending a girl back to her father cannot even be a tradition. So just because they are happening, are we going to present "honor killings" as a tradition? I suggest them to put them there too.
These men in the ministeries are also backward, primitive people. I do not even take them serious. The current parliament where the deputies are supposed to represent turkish people is full of blockheads. I do not hope much from them. There are even a few deputies with more than one wifes. They are very good representatives. We can get very far in civilization with them.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 03:47 am |
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Interesting to view/judge a country through its "traditions". Generally, Governments pass laws that seem appropriate at the time and stay on the books for generations. For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 12:42 pm |
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Quoting suzieswimz: For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure. |
Yep - well if there was ever a messed up country, that was it! A country of every extreme and hypocracy imaginable! 
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 03:06 pm |
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Quoting suzieswimz: Interesting to view/judge a country through its "traditions". Generally, Governments pass laws that seem appropriate at the time and stay on the books for generations. For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure. |
Interesting, please share what states allow husbands here in the U.S. to beat their wife. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with any....In fact all states here in the U.S. have domestic abuse laws. If a couple get's into a dispute and the local authorities are called, either one or both go to jail.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 03:09 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting suzieswimz: For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure. |
Yep - well if there was ever a messed up country, that was it! A country of every extreme and hypocracy imaginable!
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Yes, but I still would rather be in the U.S. than anywhere else.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 03:49 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting suzieswimz: For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure. |
Yep - well if there was ever a messed up country, that was it! A country of every extreme and hypocracy imaginable!
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Yes, but I still would rather be in the U.S. than anywhere else. |
Why? 
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 04:01 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting suzieswimz: For example, some states in the US still have laws that state it is ok for a husband to beat his wife. Yet at the same time have laws that punish spousal abuse.
Go figure. |
Yep - well if there was ever a messed up country, that was it! A country of every extreme and hypocracy imaginable!
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Yes, but I still would rather be in the U.S. than anywhere else. |
Why? |
Hmm, let me count the ways. 
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 04:04 pm |
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Quote: Quote: Quoting teaschip1: Yes, but I still would rather be in the U.S. than anywhere else. |
Why? |
Hmm, let me count the ways. |
I was just curious. There are lots of countries I would love to live in (unfortunately this does not include the US ). Clearly you are quite happy where you are! Good for you!
TC I had forgotten that its best we NEVER talk about the US....or politics...or anything.......except Eggplants (and we can only talk about them because I use your American word instead of the English 'Aubergines'! )
Soooooo.....eaten any good eggplants lately? Any eggplant experiences you want to share with the group?
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 04:57 pm |
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Aenigma, where is this anti-Americanism coming from? Is there really nothing that can be appreciated about the US? Even the fact that they rescued Europe both from fascism and communism...?
I think that some things maybe are much nicer in other countries, but I don't know of any other place in the world where you can feel so free and as much in charge of your life as you can be in the US. I think this is the best system in many ways.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 05:38 pm |
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Sure, there're also a lot of things that I appreciate in the US. One day, I'd like to go there just for visiting. I think the Europe looks down upon on the US a bit, because what's real they lack culture and history. They exaggerate a lot of things, and there's a lot of cultural degeneration that's imported from the US to all parts of world. As well as the good things she has done, US has also done so many bad things, and the problem is she really sees herself as the police and director of the world. It saved us from the "evil" communism, but he created other evil things, he created the islamic fanatic groups and now he's bringing "democracy" to these places.
And I do not believe there's such a freedom there. You can get in prison for very stupid things, and there's still sentence to death. There are a lot of religious sects, and funny things going around religion there. It's quite easy to get a gun there. etc. etc. And there's no real social insurance there like in europe, if you have money, you can benefit from the best medical facilities, but if you do not have money, the government do not much care about you. You work a lot to make money there, in europe, you appreciate the social life you can have beside working, and you feel youself more under the protection umbrella of the government.
don't know there're strange things going on there. I'd prefer europe to US for a lot of reasons.
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18 Jul 2007 Wed 05:50 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Sure, there're also a lot of things that I appreciate in the US. One day, I'd like to go there just for visiting. I think the Europe looks down upon on the US a bit, because what's real they lack culture and history. They exaggerate a lot of things, and there's a lot of cultural degeneration that's imported from the US to all parts of world. As well as the good things she has done, US has also done so many bad things, and the problem is she really sees herself as the police and director of the world. It saved us from the "evil" communism, but he created other evil things, he created the islamic fanatic groups and now he's bringing "democracy" to these places.
And I do not believe there's such a freedom there. You can get in prison for very stupid things, and there's still sentence to death. There are a lot of religious sects, and funny things going around religion there. It's quite easy to get a gun there. etc. etc. And there's no real social insurance there like in europe, if you have money, you can benefit from the best medical facilities, but if you do not have money, the government do not much care about you. You work a lot to make money there, in europe, you appreciate the social life you can have beside working, and you feel youself more under the protection umbrella of the government.
don't know there're strange things going on there. I'd prefer europe to US for a lot of reasons. |
However your comments regarding getting guns and going to jail and blah blah blah were really a waste of your typing fingers. That was pretty stupid considering I think those things are same all over
As for visiting.... don't waste your time, there is nothing to see in this country that lacks in history and culture :-S
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